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Title: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 16, 2010, 12:28 PM
Ok, I have some spare time on my hands, so i'm going to write some BnG tips for anyone who does not know any of these tips, some are basic, some are a little more technical or something some people wouldn't think of.

1. No wind zook acts more or less exactly like a grenade, for example, a 4s full power grenade will do the same as a no wind zook, except a zook will go a couple pixels further, for example, you just tried a 4s full power grenade, it hit the last couple of pixels of a branch on a tree, if you get no wind zook next turn, do the same aim as the 4s grenade, and do full power, it should clear the tree *note - this only works after a certain amount of distance* which you can figure out yourself.

2. If you hit with a 3s grenade and it's an impact shot, you could always re-aim to the exact same aim, select 4s with lg, and aim a very little amount further, and I do mean VERY LITTLE, and just figure out the power.

3. The aim for a 4s max bounce lg floorbank shot is usually the same angle as a 5s LG nade flipped upside down with 4s, max bounce and a bit more pwoer.

4. A 5s lg grenades aim is just a little further than a 4s full power shot aim.

5. Those 5s max bounce grenades you see when they bounce roughly in the middle of both worms then back up over and hits, is the same aim as a 4s full power grenade, however after a certain distance between worms, you will have to aim the smallest amount less than a 4s full power shot.

6. Re-aiming, a quick, easy and fair way of re-aiming a shot that everybody should know - where the aim was correct but the power was wrong, OR power was right, just the aim was off slightly, instead of just moving the cursor and trying to guess the aim again, put your thumb (or another finger) over the cursor, move it back to vertical or 45 degrees, and you will find the same aim again easy, and you can adjust, being able to do this within 3-4 seconds, still leaving you plenty time to think of your shot, or where you went wrong.

7. A no wind LG zook at full power, is aimed at half the distance of a full power 4s grenade.

8. 1 wind (facing you) zook shots - these can be done with the same aim as a 3s grenade, the power needed for them to hit are usually around 90%-100% depending on how much distance is between the worms.

9. ALWAYS go for the push-shot, always try to control your opponents angle by limiting it, sometimes the best shot isn't always full damage, if you can master push-shots, you master league games, although it happens alot unexpectedly or will happen anyway because of where they stand, knowing what type of shot to use and when to use it can help ALOT.

I hope you enjoy these tips and I hope they help, however I won't give out all my trade secrets :P

Thanks, Komo.
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Free on June 16, 2010, 01:22 PM
Great!

Thanks alot broski. :)
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Abnaxus on June 16, 2010, 01:34 PM
instead of just moving the cursor and trying to guess the aim again, put your thumb (or another finger) over the cursor
This is pretty lame you know. -.-

Anyway, nice topic, but I think it would have been better if players found those things by themselves...
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Maciej on June 16, 2010, 01:40 PM
yeah it's lame... i never do that, at the start of every turn i re-aim quickly and don't care about my last aim, it makes my skill better

but as i watched some komo games i saw that he waits at start of mostly turns 2-3 sec, and then move his aim, well everybody got a tactic and it's not allowed
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: wormf00d on June 16, 2010, 05:02 PM
the moment i saw the title of this topic and before reading through the tips i just f@#!in knew there were going to be negative comments lol

is this why komo can beat the both of u drunk with 9 fingers in a cast? :)

these are useful tips! dont bash them!
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Abnaxus on June 16, 2010, 05:40 PM
is this why komo can beat the both of u drunk with 9 fingers in a cast? :)
Hehe, that's Komo power. But this era is soon over. :something diabolical:

these are useful tips! dont bash them!
Sure they are ! But it's like giving solution of a game you just bought.
You need to train in this scheme to learn about it, and if you really can't improve, even after years of training, then we can give you some advices, but not the solution himself ! <.<
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: wormf00d on June 16, 2010, 06:16 PM
valid point, cant argue much with that :)

then again some people will find it useful and bam! a new komo is born

..not :P
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 16, 2010, 08:23 PM
Maybe i'm fed up being ridiculously better than anyone else?

Anyway, the re-aim thing is not lame, I am not using any program to do it, i;m using my own human body, it's perfectly natural :)
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 16, 2010, 08:27 PM
Sure they are ! But it's like giving solution of a game you just bought.
You need to train in this scheme to learn about it, and if you really can't improve, even after years of training, then we can give you some advices, but not the solution himself ! <.<

I don't agree with this, i've just told people how certain shots are, it still takes ALOT of practise to get them right, you still have to master the aim for them for starters, the power which is the hardest and knowing how much power to use depending on how far your worms are and how high/low they are.

I'm just trying to help out :S
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: darKz on June 16, 2010, 08:42 PM
I'm just trying to help out :S

LIAR!! BASH 'EM!!!11 :D
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Ray on June 16, 2010, 08:49 PM
Hey, in RRs, go fast, that way you have a chance to win!

BUMM, I'm an asshole, I told everyone how to beat anyone at RR! Be fast, ZOMG, THIS THOUGHT NEVER OCCURED TO ME!

How can you guys be so narrow-minded? This is like HHC's T17 tutorial or Dario's Intermediate tutorial, or the whole Elite community that was created on TUS. Now go and bash them also, will ya? No, of course not.

Can't believe that you guys actually attacked Komo for doing that, I don't know what's wrong with you people.
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Abnaxus on June 16, 2010, 09:00 PM
Sounds a bit like flame.

Anyway, I don't attack him, I just said he should have been less direct in his post.
And if you had read the whole topic, you would have seen the "nice topic". Strange way to attack someone, isn't it ?

Well, good luck to everyone who wanna be a BnGer (a real one for sure), and don't forget there is the a2b league ! Which is the best way to improve your skills and have a lot of fun !
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Ramone on June 17, 2010, 02:10 AM
is this why komo can beat the both of u drunk with 9 fingers in a cast? :)
Hehe, that's Komo power. But this era is soon over. :something diabolical:

What do U mean "this era is soon over"? What's gonna happen?   ???
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 17, 2010, 06:02 AM
but as i watched some komo games i saw that he waits at start of mostly turns 2-3 sec, and then move his aim, well everybody got a tactic and it's not allowed

There are actually a few reasons for this, the main one being, because I spend the 1st 5s (think time) and an extra couple seconds (only sometimes) checking what shot I can use and what has the best chance of hitting with an added push, after 99% of hits, the angle changes, so you have to re-check the angle of the shot you need to hit them, plus I check the distance between worms, why would anyone shoot blind? But also I am always minimising to check websites/MSN/ag etc so sometimes i'll miss a few seconds of a turn, it always looks like a few seconds because when you are minimised when it is YOUR turn, wa icon flashes and makes a beep sound to alert you when it is your turn (this also happens when you receive a PM in-game)

And if you are going to say I notch lol, I have already admitted I started out BnG'n with notching and stopped very shortly afterwards, I think I have proved this with some of the shots I do are impossible to notch.


Lol Rok don't worry, I know Abnaxus wouldn't attack me, me and him are good friends, I taught him alot of BnG :P He is one of the few players I personally find dangerous to BnG against because of his ability to use a variety of shots.

Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: wormf00d on June 17, 2010, 09:27 AM
zomg i lost a rep point cuz of this thread
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 17, 2010, 09:37 AM
Well I just gave you one back lol, f00d, GET ON WNET !
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Abnaxus on June 17, 2010, 11:29 AM
What do U mean "this era is soon over"? What's gonna happen?
What's gonna happen ? I'm gonna kick his ass.  :P
We should make a anti-Komo community whom his goal as to never let Komo win a BnG again ! °.°


But also I am always minimising to check websites/MSN/ag etc
I don't really like when you do this. x|


I taught showed him alot of BnG :P
Taught isn't the word. I learned to perfect my shots by playing a lot against you, it's a bit different. xP
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 17, 2010, 11:42 AM
What do U mean "this era is soon over"? What's gonna happen?
What's gonna happen ? I'm gonna kick his ass.  :P
We should make a anti-Komo community whom his goal as to never let Komo win a BnG again ! °.°

^^ lol


But also I am always minimising to check websites/MSN/ag etc
I don't really like when you do this. x|

Unlucky lol, I have to, I am a busy guy with alot of people to talk to.


I taught showed him alot of BnG :P
Taught isn't the word. I learned to perfect my shots by playing a lot against you, it's a bit different. xP

I did teach you lol I taught you the 4s lg shot thrown like a 3s grenade, I taught u the 1 wind lg shot, and i'm sure I teach you other things.

I remember many occasion where I said "do this pwoer" then showed you.

You have came a long way, and I am proud of you :)

How do you do the multi-quote thing? Never done it before lol
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Prankster on June 17, 2010, 11:57 AM
these advices r funny, i think i can handle most of these shots, but never thought of them in this way :)

but sure its right, when u try to teach something, u have to look at it in a different way, as u just do it, and that gives u a lot experience, maybe even more than learning.

btw i had another technic to do a good reaim, but i dont use it anymore, or anything else, im doing fine without them..

lets beat Komo, thats a nice goal :D
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Abnaxus on June 17, 2010, 02:02 PM
I taught you the 4s lg shot thrown like a 3s grenade
I started to do it on WWP (and I was the only one if I remember well), so it's impossible. ^^
The 2 shots you said was the ones I ploped you with on Fb (don't mistake them). :D
But about the 4sec lg floor-bank shots, I must agree I copycated you. xP
Anyway, `sw ftw. :]

How do you do the multi-quote thing? Never done it before lol
Copy/Paste a quote ? ;D
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: obscure on June 19, 2010, 10:29 AM
lol. ;D hey everyone
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on June 19, 2010, 11:06 AM
lol. ;D hey everyone

Lol hey oby !!!! Hurry up and get active !
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: Twyrfher on July 09, 2010, 06:36 PM
Now I'm feeling naked with those tips  :-[
gj Komo. Btw, I wonder why are people saying "zomg", WHY are that Z there!? that excites me  :-* (http://tag.260mb.com/Smileys/default/zpoke.png)
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: TheKomodo on July 09, 2010, 06:46 PM
Thanks Twy, and you are welcome :)
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: NAiL on July 09, 2010, 07:13 PM
Anyway, the re-aim thing is not lame, I am not using any program to do it, i;m using my own human body, it's perfectly natural :)

I use a pritt stick to measure kamikaze!

http://pricebustersglasgow.co.uk/images/87602601.jpg
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: avirex on July 10, 2010, 12:20 AM
i thought a kami was different per land and wind?... ehh i dunno
Title: Re: BnG advice
Post by: NAiL on July 10, 2010, 02:36 AM
http://nnnclan.freeforums.org/the-worms-guide-t3.html

Everything you need to know about many weapons, kami included