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Title: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
does that mean you guys will be coming back to the league?? that will be cool...


its all this talk about money, isnt it?  ;p

jk..


hope you guys do return, that would be cool.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: SPW on December 11, 2013, 09:33 PM
Oh man I was shocked for a moment. You used the same thread title..  :D

Nice to hear you would welcome a comeback.  :)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ryan on December 11, 2013, 10:39 PM
You need to reconsider your scheme flexibility though
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 11, 2013, 11:22 PM
No we don't. It's always been CFs philosophy to play clanners when there are enough people online to cover most of the schemes. It's not our fault you guys aren't taking league games serious, I'll kindly ask you to stop trying to encourage us to fool around. Cheers. :)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Peja on December 11, 2013, 11:33 PM
If we would take this league serious we wouldn't allow scheme agreements at all which would have massive influence on the stats of cf. But that's another story. U guys do a great job, will be fun having you back. Hope Rene will join the party for some clanners. Would be awesome.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Anubis on December 12, 2013, 12:04 AM
If the league would be really serious we wouldn't have random matches and only scheduled where all players are around to play in their best schemes. CF is actually just doing what a serious competition is about, playing only with the best set-up available.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Crazy on December 12, 2013, 01:06 AM
No we don't. It's always been CFs philosophy to play clanners when there are enough people online to cover most of the schemes. It's not our fault you guys aren't taking league games serious, I'll kindly ask you to stop trying to encourage us to fool around. Cheers. :)

I guess we have a different definition of fooling around then, René!
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 12, 2013, 01:10 AM
yeah, CF did a great job, and took it very serious, thats how the accomplished what they did with points...

i think it made it easier to have people on to cover all the schemes, being random was as active as he was at that time, he most likely played 80% or better of all the clanners (maybe im wrong)


if Mablak was as active as Random was in clan league, and we decided to take things a little more seriously, we would maybe have a shot at catching up, because after all.. Mablak IS dt, right komo?   either way, it would still be a difficult task! CF pretty much owns all points!! i hope you guys come back, so we can steal them ;D

i think if Random decided to play again, both Ray, and Franz would start to play as well, and some other CF would occasionally hop on wnet...  and thats a pretty scary trio to go up against, random, ray, and franz!! but i hope to see it in AG soon !
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 01:26 AM
franz left CF quite a while ago to try and revive six together with Mil2 (for the third time or so?) I think. :D But Crash makes up for that I guess.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: TheKomodo on December 12, 2013, 02:52 AM
Mablak IS dt, right komo?

That is correct !

But yeah seeing as CF are the ONLY clan to take Leagues so serious as a clan whole, they aren't that special, not saying they aren't good but meh, it's like 18 year olds playing 13 year olds at football...
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Free on December 12, 2013, 04:13 AM
dt tactic is simply the best: have fun during season and just make po, win po = simple.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 04:31 AM
dtMablak tactic is simply the best: have fundon't play during season and just have your lackeys make po, win po = simple.
Ftfy.  8) jk, or am I?
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: TheWalrus on December 12, 2013, 05:28 AM
lol its true mablak cruises through regular season.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2013, 07:51 AM
I am not asking anyone to fool around, I am asking you to play fair.
You pick, we pick, no avoiding, simple.

I totally respect your skill, but not the way you propose to use it.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: GreatProfe on December 12, 2013, 10:16 AM
if the same speech was posted in eS forum, what would you gonna call us?
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Anubis on December 12, 2013, 10:20 AM
if the same speech was posted in eS forum, what would you gonna call us?

Avoider, noob bashers? :D
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 10:50 AM
I am not asking anyone to fool around, I am asking you to play fair.
You pick, we pick, no avoiding, simple.

I totally respect your skill, but not the way you propose to use it.
You really want to play a TTRR clanner against SPW don't you? Would be amazing competition. :D If you want default wins look somewhere else, it's that simple.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: TheWalrus on December 12, 2013, 11:02 AM
if the same speech was posted in eS forum, what would you gonna call us?
This is actually a really great point.  In eS private forums they talked about avoiding certain schemes if they didn't have enough players.  Everyone bashed them for it, and CF does the exact same thing.  Just saying, Prof makes a great point.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2013, 11:12 AM
I am not asking anyone to fool around, I am asking you to play fair.
You pick, we pick, no avoiding, simple.

I totally respect your skill, but not the way you propose to use it.
You really want to play a TTRR clanner against SPW don't you? Would be amazing competition. :D If you want default wins look somewhere else, it's that simple.

Dark, knowing that SPW isn't a RRer, you should know I would take no pride at all playing him in a TTRR clanner. I actually much prefer the games vs e.g. daina, dulek where I feel I could lose. No disrespect to SPW, he probably feels the same with default.

I should be allowed to pick it against him/you though.

The problem I have, and you know full well, is that you limit the choice the other clan can make, it is a classic league, not a default league, don't abuse it through avoiding your weaker schemes.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 11:58 AM
You're forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that it's also a clan league, not a whichever two individuals are online league. I'm sorry to say but your argument is invalid. :D

But I think I know what the problem is.

Imagine these two scenarios:
1.) CF has an internal agreement, we all meet up on Ventrilo and join WormNET only as a group when we're all ready and want to play clanners.
2.) CF join WormNET one by one and wait for the others there. As soon as two of us are online people immediately assume that they can ask us to play a clanner and we have to agree.

It's basically the same thing, yet one kind of behavior does absolutely nothing while the other one makes people grab their pitchforks.

Why do you think this is the case?
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Rok on December 12, 2013, 12:07 PM

Imagine these two scenarios:
1.) CF has an internal agreement, we all meet up on Ventrilo and join WormNET only as a group when we're all ready and want to play clanners.
2.) CF is prick teasing


FTFY.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2013, 12:26 PM
You're forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that it's also a clan league, not a whichever two individuals are online league. I'm sorry to say but your argument is invalid. :D

But I think I know what the problem is.

Imagine these two scenarios:
1.) CF has an internal agreement, we all meet up on Ventrilo and join WormNET only as a group when we're all ready and want to play clanners.
2.) CF join WormNET one by one and wait for the others there. As soon as two of us are online people immediately assume that they can ask us to play a clanner and we have to agree.

It's basically the same thing, yet one kind of behavior does absolutely nothing while the other one makes people grab their pitchforks.

Why do you think this is the case?

My whole point was about scheme avoiding.

I totally agree with you about having the right people around, I often get asked to clanner and refuse because I don't want to.

You mentioned (I can't remember the exact wording) only playing certain schemes. That is a problem because it immediately disadvantages the other clan. The whole point of having points for each scheme is to give a fair reflection of how good you are allround/overall. Avoiding schemes will mean that you avoid a potentially bad (e.g. RR) rating which by your relative skill you should have (no disrespect intended, I happen to think you are a very strong allrounder in all schemes except RR)

I never mentioned about players being available,  etc. That is a completely different topic that I have no problem with.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 12:59 PM
We dont wanna destroy our nice overall stats, thats for sure. So we always try to have best lineups. This means, that I dont play clanners with one of you alone. Maybe there are some clans willing do defaults only, but thats not the main thing. Usually, we need, including me, 3 guys online. I prefer that we only play clanner when 3 of us are online.
You're probably talking about this paragraph. The whole point of playing with a strong roster is to be able to play every scheme at a high level. Ergo, it's basically to avoid avoiding. I don't get what you're on about.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Free on December 12, 2013, 01:03 PM
dtMablak tactic is simply the best: have fundon't play during season and just have your lackeys make po, win po = simple.
Ftfy.  8) jk, or am I?

Random00. Jk, or am I?
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2013, 01:10 PM
We dont wanna destroy our nice overall stats, thats for sure. So we always try to have best lineups. This means, that I dont play clanners with one of you alone. Maybe there are some clans willing do defaults only, but thats not the main thing. Usually, we need, including me, 3 guys online. I prefer that we only play clanner when 3 of us are online.
You're probably talking about this paragraph. The whole point of playing with a strong roster is to be able to play every scheme at a high level. Ergo, it's basically to avoid avoiding. I don't get what you're on about.

You know what, I might have misread the point about defaults. SPW implied that he would be interested in defaults.

He did say that isn't the main thing so I apologise for misreading the post in the first place /slap
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 01:26 PM
Cheers buddy, glad we solved the confusion. :)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 12, 2013, 03:55 PM
dtMablak tactic is simply the best: have fundon't play during season and just have your lackeys make po, win po = simple.
Ftfy.  8) jk, or am I?


whoa... this is some kind of nonsense i expected from komo.. haha

its pretty ironic coming from you...

Mablak is no doubt a big part of our playoff success, but after all the shit talking i specifically requested in dt private mablak sits out in some playoff games, just to prove to everyone we will still win, and to stfu...  i think its been 3 seasons we have been winning with out Mablak... he may have played 2 schemes out of the last 3 season playoffs.. and yes, people will still talk shit.

i challenge CF to sit random out in a playoffs game...  now that would be something to see!

its funny clans like CF with random say shit like this... or AeF (well, just komo) would say shit like this, when they had barman, dainub, and komo at the same time!!

seems to be the top clans complain about Mablak, and the "lower" clans take it like a man, and remain confident to win...  im starting to have a new respect for prof, hes right ;D
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: SPW on December 12, 2013, 04:13 PM
Dont compare those playoff games after CF sitout. We would won all those finals if Mablak not around. But without Mablak and Random, it would be 50:50 I admit.  ;)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Statik on December 12, 2013, 04:17 PM
yeye CF is cool xD
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Free on December 12, 2013, 06:23 PM
Dont compare those playoff games after CF sitout. We would won all those finals if Mablak not around. But without Mablak and Random, it would be 50:50 I admit.  ;)


Yeah exactly. Wasnt really expecting Mablak is dt jokes from CF since you have Random00 and those two players are almost on the same level.

Mab is a big part of our success (so is Random for you) but you guys dont see the whole picture. For example, rope-wise, Mab aint the shiniest star we have because of his rope rust etc.

There has been CF and dt PO, and dt has won.. so I think we can do some comparison :) Would dt won every single PO if we were facing strongest CF? Probably not, we can never tell for sure.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: SPW on December 12, 2013, 09:07 PM
Its all history, i dont have a problem with dt clan. Much respect for all your wins and it was always a big challenge to play against you  :)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Husk on December 12, 2013, 09:55 PM
in eS private they were talking about avoiding certain clans tho...
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: darKz on December 12, 2013, 10:42 PM
I was just making a joke. Or was I? Huehuehue.
Nice Komo reaction though. :D Everyone knows we can beat dt with or without Mablak, we just didn't do it the last few times.  8)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Free on December 12, 2013, 11:34 PM
I was just making a joke. Or was I? Huehuehue.
Nice Komo reaction though. :D Everyone knows we can beat dt with or without Mablak, we just didn't do it the last few times.  8)

"Oh ok" So shame I didnt have my joke detector on
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ray on December 13, 2013, 05:18 PM
I'm just looking forward to challenge some reigning champions with our team that I like playing with so much. :) CF wins some, loses some, other clans win some and lose some, that's just life and competition and time, at the end of the day, all we're left with is a bunch of awesome games to watch again and a bunch of statistics to browse through and to remember some good times we had with good buddies.

Drink a beer folks and let's do some clanners instead of talking on forums. :D
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 23, 2013, 01:48 AM
so... how about that come back?
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ray on December 23, 2013, 02:05 PM
Last night we almost played!

Then, well, we didn't.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Anubis on December 26, 2013, 11:10 AM
I know what you mean, to comeback it takes more than willing to play clanner, it also takes an eternity in #AG and wait for a clan to appear. -.-
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Statik on December 26, 2013, 11:38 AM
ye anu I see you waiting for clanners every evening xd
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Peja on December 26, 2013, 02:39 PM
dunno we have clanners every evening, cant see your problem xD
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Anubis on December 27, 2013, 10:27 AM
ye anu I see you waiting for clanners every evening xd

Obviously I meant when I was still active! I spent at least 50% of my online time in W:A waiting in #AG for a clanner. Peja is proof, we always talked in snoop.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: van on December 27, 2013, 04:06 PM
So CF reloaded is like worms reloaded? Big hype over nothing.
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 27, 2013, 08:26 PM
lmfao.. yes Van, exactly ;D
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: barman on December 27, 2013, 09:28 PM
Except that Worms Reloaded actually happened ;D
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Anubis on December 28, 2013, 10:35 AM
Which is actually more saddening. :(
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: SPW on December 28, 2013, 12:08 PM
Activity at wa raising up, so thats anyway best for all. Names are just names.  Nobody cares about CF or a single person in it.

Worms must survive!  8)
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: Ray on December 28, 2013, 06:39 PM
Activity at wa raising up, so thats anyway best for all. Names are just names.  Nobody cares about CF or a single person in it.

Worms must survive!  8)
What the f@#! are you talking about? :D

Well guys, I am trying... last night SPW came on, but noone else. We scheduled to come online yesterday evening, but looks like only the two of us actually managed to do this. Don't know what else I could personally do. :-\
Title: Re: CF Reloaded!
Post by: avirex on December 28, 2013, 06:53 PM
it would be ok to ask for "elite only" clanners...

personally, i would like that.. feel free to ask dt @ any time...

we dont need our best line up, we will play with our bench players (me) :D