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One-Boards => Challenges Comments => Topic started by: ExZo on January 23, 2016, 03:29 AM
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finish will be counted or not? replay download - http://rghost.ru/7wm282l2q
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Can someone tell me if i finished the map properly and how much was the time? Turn start at 7:09 and finish part is at 10:51
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Np guys, scores will be counted. Touching any of the finnish letters or floor under them. So, if you gonna try few more times, save 1-2 secs and go for the letters. ;)
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Can someone tell me if i finished the map properly and how much was the time? Turn start at 7:09 and finish part is at 10:51
I assumed that you have to hit the FINISH sign, dunno though.
edit: oh ok.
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Np guys, scores will be counted. Touching any of the finnish letters or floor under them. So, if you gonna try few more times, save 1-2 secs and go for the letters. ;)
you should have wrote that on the challenge's description as Dulek always does because, as you said, it would have saved me a few seconds... np anyway
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How does this stuff work? just s2f in less time possible? if so why cant I see a complete replay of the posted games !?
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ae runaway have u clicked the box in advanced settings "load wormkit modules" ?
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nope, thought a 3.7 release would have done it automatically. Solved btw, ty dude
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I dont want to use Rubber, then i played like a simple BIG RR map ;)
I add all my sub-times and done ;p
I hope u can count with me playing these challenges^^
Cheers.
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I dont want to use Rubber
It's not like.. satan's work.. man :)
Why make trouble to me and yourself. Just install it and play, it's much more fun.
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Runaway, I won't accept ahk script or any kind of rope cheat in this challenge. And it's kinda obvious you're using something forbidden. If you won't admit, I'll proceed replay to someone who can determine is it legit or not.
Lales, pls attach replay with proper scheme, like everyone else. If you're having problems with rubberworm instalation, I can help, let me know.
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Runaway, I won't accept ahk script or any kind of rope cheat in this challenge. And it's kinda obvious you're using something forbidden. If you won't admit, I'll proceed replay to someone who can determine is it legit or not.
Lales, pls attach replay with proper scheme, like everyone else. If you're having problems with rubberworm instalation, I can help, let me know.
turbokey? ((autokey) :D one tap - two shots)
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Runaway, I won't accept ahk script or any kind of rope cheat in this challenge. And it's kinda obvious you're using something forbidden. If you won't admit, I'll proceed replay to someone who can determine is it legit or not.
If this lame-shit is true (looks like) I suggest him to be banned from playing leagues.
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Why do you think he is scripting? It's fast taps yeah but could just be second spacebar, which is allowed.
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Just forward my replay to someone else then, I wont spend my time in order to explain you how I rope. I dont need to admit nothing just cause I dont use cheats or stuffs like that. If you dont believe me just ask me to post everything (like a video) in order to prove that, feel free.
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just ask me to post everything (like a video) in order to prove that, feel free.
Post a video then.
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It's rare to see non-cheat taps like these. I have every right to doubt it's legitimacy. And apparently, I'm not the only one who thinks that way. Stay calm, no one accused you for anything (yet).
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just forward to someone else the replay then. If it will not be enough I will post a real time video or every thing you want to know or see
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It's rare to see non-cheat taps like these.
Tbh, it isn't rare, for years and years people have been modding their keyboards, using 2 or more spacebars, even multiple keyboards, fingerroll and other ridiculous methods including scripting.
What's more annoying about it, 9.9/10 of the people who tap like this suck in real games, they look slightly impressive to noobs for about 5 seconds before they start failing/ending turns by hitting the roof and walls constantly...
The best players always have and always will be players who don't tap like headless chicken.
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maybe it's true maybe it's not. There is difference between playing hosting games in order to warm and playing games in order to earn points on tus. Just keep this in mind. I've played with people who you are describing above, it's true of course, I've seen people tap like a monkey on their kb just cause of multipleshoots scripting that they werent able to control. But I've seen people like me, who are able to play seriously if required. I dont play WA in order to aquire a "Member Hero" tag on tus, but I've always played it for fun since 2012. So dont generalize your point of view.
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'runaway' ... 'pride of b3'
Now we know who wrote the description on b3 community page @ monkey on a spacebar :D
Speaking of monkeys, monkeyisland can solve this problem with less fuss. 8)
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Thats AHK on runaways turn, imo. No need to slander b3 tho, they good people :)
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Instead of searchin for porn, I'm gonna prepare napkins and turn on some of the Masta's Big RR replays.. :-[
Great stuff man, hats off!
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so what is the sentence? cheater?
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Told you to calm down and wait.. Replay has been sent to someone who can tell.
Answer should be coming soon.
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Runaway i've been told more than once that you passed some scripts to a few players, i was already sure that you scripted but that gave me a definitive proof. So yeah this guy cheats, just like a lot of "freestylers" out of there. Noobs.
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Former member of SK clan introduce me to roping on WA few years ago. Helped in lot of ways and I'm grateful he took time to teach me and friend some basics. We played on GameRanger, didn't even know wormnet exists. I've had keyboard problem, and he decided to help by making me remap key script so i could rope without space f@#!ing me every few seconds.. Few months passed and some wormer told me that this SK guy sent me cheat script (really wasn't aware such things are forbidden). When seeing runaway turn, it reminded me a lot on his clanmate roping. If he proves innocence i'll be first to apologize!
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Sbaffo . I'm not defending anyone, and do not blame. But why believe the script (written algorithm that changes the functions of the buttons and the keyboard allows you to do two, three identical keys) consider cheat? Also, it can be done with help of programs for remapping the keyboard. What then are cheating? I agree that Auto-Key cheat who has a large number of shots per second. Or something like that that will affect the game (eg xpeed), or something else. Also I say that almost all wormnet playing with 2 space. Then all the cheaters?
just like a lot of "freestylers" out of there.
what you mean by that?
If are accused of something. Can you prove this charge? Or just in words alone can say?
Do not tell me that you do not use 2 spaces ....
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Sorry my bad English :D
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I dont play WA in order to aquire a "Member Hero" tag on tus, but I've always played it for fun since 2012. So dont generalize your point of view.
I've played for fun since 1999, I try to win simply because I enjoy efficiency, but it's not an issue losing, and ever since 1999 there have been people who think tapping is the key to the future, it's not. Anyway 9/10 times when they fall it's because they were trying to show off.
I don't generalize any point of view, it's people who play in this manner who force themselves to be judged that way, that's from experience, not opinion.
I don't like playing with people who abuse their keyboards, who abuse the game, who need programs and scripts and rulers and calculations and all sorts of shit to try and look good, it's like you are sitting at the pub with some mates enjoying a mature enviroment some games of pool, some darts or whatever, then this annoying 11 year old kid comes up yelling and screaming, that's what this kinda tapping is like to most of the community.
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What then are cheating?
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Sorry my bad English :D
The first thing i noticed when i was trying out a fr program given to me by a certain individual of a renowned clan (already mentioned a few times in this topic (and i use wkremapkeys when i play, before and after that incident)), is that .. in wkremapkeys when you have one space key pressed down, the second space key won't work untill you let go of the first space key, while on that script, and i am guessing on most 'cheating' scripts, both keys can work at the same time. i.e. pressing both key together to 'fire the rope + let go' or vice-versa for a single instance.
So, in my view, wkremapkeys= 1 space key at one time although there can be 2 or 3 keys assigned for space.
and scripts = depends what is written in it. but the gameplay makes it obvious if something fishy is going on.
Anyone who knows more about this, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
I don't know of any other method of cheating, but what I heard about xspeed is that one can not use it without getting caught on an online match, for the horrible lags it creates on the other players. Although i hear it is very good for making wonderful roping videos. :o
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Dude, if you wanted to be special, you could at least picked some other font.. This comic sans shit gave me a headache :)
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when I started playing TUS i was hate to see players who have played for several years with the finger roll. they had and will always have an advantage in some way. this is how will have to ride a motorcycle or ride a single wheel. ))) Why FR is not cheat on tus? it is very difficult to play with it and get used to it. another matter if rope do two shots at the touch of a button(from one tap(and between these shots the earliest possible timing provided for in the game.)). I know a lot of freestylers, who use roping with it but none of them did not play league.
i looked repeat. without a doubt a place here on the one-touch instant other shot. or what that alternative it. not on the same keyboard FR does not give such.
I have repeated with what I said. if someone wants i can load.
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RIP I don't even understand what you are saying in english, just repeat pls.
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when I started playing TUS i was hate to see players who have played for several years with the finger roll. they had and will always have an advantage in some way.
Nah, they don't have any advantage, only a tiny % of all FR players are actually reliable and consistent Ropers, what matters most is timing and doing the right moves at the right time.
Finger rolling is an illusion of speed, the only thing that matters in the end is passion, practise, good timing, judgement and reflexes.
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when I started playing TUS i was hate to see players who have played for several years with the finger roll. they had and will always have an advantage in some way.
Nah, they don't have any advantage, only a tiny % of all FR players are actually reliable and consistent Ropers, what matters most is timing and doing the right moves at the right time.
Finger rolling is an illusion of speed, the only thing that matters in the end is passion, practise, good timing, judgement and reflexes.
I said who for a long time playing with him.
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RIP I don't even understand what you are saying in english, just repeat pls.
we all know 5-8 players who use sometimes turbokey/autokey/one tap - 2 shots/ u can say how u want. i dont want write names but all ropers must know they.
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just ask me to post everything (like a video) in order to prove that, feel free.
Post a video then.
2nd
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I don't use any kind of multishoot scripts. Your are all free to accuse me about that, but you have to let me prove that. If I have to be a cheater just cause of some voices or other kind of suppositions around tus , I have to be able to prove my truth about what i say! If I cant prove that through the way you will choose, then I will publically admit that "I'm a cheater". If not, you will accept my way to rope.
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I'm waiting for the video like you promised
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just tell me what you want to see in the video and i will do it.
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just tell me what you want to see in the video and i will do it. gimme a few weeks to plan and edit it so it looks legit.
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just video of your kb and screen, its easy.
Step 1: Verify AHK is closed for video
Step 2: Boot up WA
Step 3: Do AHK roping with AHK closed
Step 4: Profit
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Ok , I will do a video as you said, then will post it here before this challenge expires.
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Reported my time in online mode with good reason. Gonna explain it in new thread today/tomorrow.
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Just spend your time to read and see this:
http://runaw4y.altervista.org/wa/pr.html
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Great responce runaway , well writen and good video , fairplay to you.
Also i know alot of people don't like remaps and personally i suck enough with just one space bar, however i don't belive it not alloud.
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Am i wrong or you're not using the latest WA version?
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Can you post a codec to play it? :) // GOMplayer 2.1.28, no codec available on its website.
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good enough for me, i think approve this time
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Well, never was a guy who breaks promises so - take my apology Runaway.
Turn confirmed.
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Am i wrong or you're not using the latest WA version?
forget to put /tellv while hosting. I've got the 3.7.2 rubber version. Don't even know if it is the latest one. If your doubt comes from the listed files in the wa folder, then I can only say I've added different files (rubber, px ecc) time by time since 2012 (I don't even know if required).
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Nearly had couple of below 230s turns, just to fk it up in the end xDD >:(
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Can you post a codec to play it? :) // GOMplayer 2.1.28, no codec available on its website.
why do you need the codec in order to play it?
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Oh, Chrome was able to play it. Vgj man. Ropers should post videos like this from time to time)))
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Just spend your time to read and see this:
http://runaw4y.altervista.org/wa/pr.html
I like =)
I think most really impressive players don't use cheats - on my own experience: It's fun doing some crazy stuff - I like opportunities of differnt ways to explore a game - but not in league of cource. AND: cheat ruin all the fun long term - I'd really like to play AOE once in a while, but since I still(! burned in my brain ^^) know I only have to type lumberjack etc. it's no fun at all ^^ Point is - cheating isn't fun - or only very short time fun. I mean - what's the win? Get some TUS-Points? Maybe get detectet? No fun at all imo…
Double-rope-macro-users will never reach necessary level of control =) they fall even more often then me ;)
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He is using more than 1 space bar, is that not considered cheating?
He uses remapper to swap hands, which is fine and I even encourage it since sports have left/right handed equipment also, but multiple spacebars is additional and gives you an advantage, it's like racing with automatic gears working at the perfect time or something.
It's definitely cheating whether it's allowed or not.
Doing it for fun, not a problem, enjoy it!
However doing it and competing with people who play fairly in Leagues and Challenges etc, definitely not cool man.
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It's all good - would happily hammer him in a TUS RR and all would be well
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FR is admirable when people learn to do it on one spacebar because the practise required to get the timing/pressing right so they don't interfere with each other is extremely difficult, few people have ever been able to do this.
Doing FR with multiple spacebars is pathetically easy to learn in comparison than doing it properly with 1.
I think that's why there are so many people using FR, because they use multiple spacebars cuz they aren't good enough, or too lazy to do it the legit way...
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Komo anyone can use fr with 2 spaces but it requires skillz too. It's not about advantage, i feel more comfortable with 2 spaces, so why shouldn't i use them?
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You shouldn't use 2 spacebars because it's cheating and makes it easier, as simple as that.
I didn't know you were a cheater too Sbaffo, no wonder you got so good at TTRR out of nowhere :(
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Whatever you're a loss of time
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Whatever you're a loss of time
Why, because I think you're a cheater lol? You are the one with an unfair advantage not me lol...
I've been playing WA since 1999, when people didn't do that kinda stuff, people had to practise for such a long time to master the 1 spacebar roping, 2 or more spacebars is just a lazy and unfair way of learning this faster and with advantage.
Adding ANY kind of extra advantage is cheating as far as i'm concerned, and 2 spaces IS without a doubt an advantage, especially in TTRR where it's all tight.
Like, in Formula One they have speed restrictions so it's fair for everyone, I feel like 2 spacebars is like breaking that restriction in a competitive enviroment.
It's ridiculous it's even allowed.
I highly doubt when they were making the Worms series they had people using multiple spacebars in mind...
The ONLY reason i've ever heard of, why 2 spacebars should be allowed is because a few keyboards with 2 spacebars exist out there somewhere, not good enough...
Oh and:
Komo anyone can use fr with 2 spaces but it requires skillz too. It's not about advantage, i feel more comfortable with 2 spaces, so why shouldn't i use them?
Using 2 spacebars doesn't require as much skill and time as learning to use 1.
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I'll explain why you're a loss of time
EVERY ttrr player knows that ARROWS are more important than spaces, the advantage comes from there. I've been using 2 spaces for at least 4 years, and realized recently that it doesn't matter how much you tap because arrows makes the real difference, as a veteran you should know that, or you've never known it as you've never been good enough at this scheme? This is what i always recommened to anyone asked me to get better with rope. There are thousands of players that use 2 spaces but not many know HOW to use them. Also have you noticed that most of the top rr players use 1 finger? I'd accept this kind of reprimand only if you were good enough at ttrr.
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There are only opinions that has been stated so far. In order to end this debate, proof accompanied with facts needs to be documented and be brought forward. Otherwise, we will be trapped in an endless circle of disagreement
Someone eligible should put this task to the test. Is FR a cheat or not? Is it harder or easy to learn it? Should it be encouraged? Even allowed in league?
I am glad this with Runaway is settled, now let's finish this debate once and for all.
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EVERY ttrr player knows that ARROWS are more important than spaces, the advantage comes from there.
No, every good ROPER knows arrows are more important than spaces, but that isn't what my point is.
Learning how to control Rope with arrows isn't an advantage when every single keyboard has arrows, not every single keyboard has multiple arrows.
This is why 2 or more spacebars is an advantage because not all keyboards have them and not every person knows about keychangers etc.
I told you this assuming you knew what the word advantage means, but apparently you didn't...
I've been using 2 spaces for at least 4 years, and realized recently that it doesn't matter how much you tap because arrows makes the real difference, as a veteran you should know that, or you've never known it as you've never been good enough at this scheme?
So you've been cheating for at least 4 years, k...................
True, arrows make the real difference, but I would guess if you took 100 people and trained 50 with FR/Multiple spaces and 50 with Single spacebar no FR, the FR/Multiple spacebars would be better.
This is what i always recommened to anyone asked me to get better with rope. There are thousands of players that use 2 spaces but not many know HOW to use them.
So you recommend people should cheat instead of learning how to play normally? That's lame...
Also have you noticed that most of the top rr players use 1 finger? I'd accept this kind of reprimand only if you were good enough at ttrr.
The top players in any scheme are the top players because they have the most passion for the scheme, and have practised more, regardless of technique, with the exception imo of Anubis in Warmer because he's a cheater/modder and admitted it, which is why I don't consider him the best.
Also, this has nothing to do with my skill, or yours, at TTRR, I consider myself a very experienced Roper, but TTRR is just not a scheme I enjoy as much so I don't practise it to the extent that you do.
Someone eligible should put this task to the test. Is FR a cheat or not? Is it harder or easy to learn it? Should it be encouraged? Even allowed in league?
It's irrelevant, you can't detect it which is why people get away cheating this way :(
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Komo is right about it being an advantage, otherwise why would people do it? They wouldn't. Everyone would try it, and then stop using it. Lets just get that part in our collective heads, it IS something that gives a player the edge.
The extent of how much an advantage it is, is up for interpretation. I'd say only a slight advantage, and nothing game breaking. No different then the macros people use for hysteria, I've noticed it has been rampant since I came back to worms in 2011. TUS has looked the other way on that, and should certainly look the other way on this.
If this sort of thing should be outlawed, the ship sailed on that 6-7 years ago. It's been around for so long its part of worms now, if you guys haven't noticed this community is resistant to change of any kind.
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We are all kind of professional (cyber)athletes here. We are taking any possible advantage to win. FR, kb mods, remapping - its all like a steroids and shit in real life sports. Non-TUS ropers dont play for money, points or anything, they dont need to take steroids, they are "clean" sportsmen. They are like amaterur atletes. Pros and amateurs... different leagues that shouldnt be mixed. If a "clean" sportsman can beat "dirty" one - fame to him. But he should be aware who he gonna compete with.
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Komo wanna play bo/15 roper? I'll film my self while playing with 1 spacebar then to prove that you're wrong
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Komo wanna play bo/15 roper? I'll film my self while playing with 1 spacebar then to prove that you're wrong
Prove me wrong about what?
And what is Bo15 Roper gonna prove?
You play Roper A LOT more than I do, so obviously you are gonna be warmer than me, maybe play someone who has played a lot of Roper recently?
It's not a very clever idea tbh... I don't understand what your point is either...
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Double space is not a problem in this game. Problem is that ppl will always look for smth just to give them edge above others. Especially in roping.
Let's talk about offline challenges. Couple of days ago, 1 wormer sent me his TT Big RR replay with time of 240 sec, and asked me can I see he's using cheat by naked eye. Ofc, I couldn't see it.. Asked him: what's the catch? How can you have time of 240 sec, when I know your best time should be between 300-350. Then he told me he used program that can slow down the pace of the game and help you rope without mistakes whole turn. He was playing on 40% speed, but in the replay - it was looking like every other normal turn.
Only guys like StepS, CS, Deadcode.. could see that's not legit.
I know best times in challies are done by ppl that proved theirselves as best ropers over the years, in million online games.. But, only the thought there is possibility to get even better just with turning on that "cheat" is what makes me angry.
So.. yeah.. there's million ways to pretend you're better then you really are, and I, personally, have pitty for that ppl. But it obviously can't be stopped. Double space is nothing compared to other stuff there. At least - nothing to worry about...
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Okay because I'm only guy using one space my time is clearly the best, I'll take gold please.
Also komo play me bo 9000 bng and I'll beat you one game .
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I dom't play roper often, it's my worst roping scheme, i wanna prove you're totally wrong about the advantage shit. If i've been "cheating" all these years then i shouldn't be able to beat a veteran like you.
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I dom't play roper often, it's my worst roping scheme, i wanna prove you're totally wrong about the advantage shit.
Sbaffo, you still aren't fully grasping the point I am making...
I said it's an advantage, I didn't say it was beatable or unbeatable...
People can have advantage in life like have rich parents, but still live a crap life...
Plus I am talking about Roping in general, not just 1 scheme.
If i've been "cheating" all these years then i shouldn't be able to beat a veteran like you.
If you win or if you lose doesn't prove anything lol, Phil Taylor is the greatest Darts player of all time but Gary Anderson beat him to win Championship...
And cheating doesn't automatically mean you never lose lol, people can cheat and still suck, but it's still cheating :D
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I knew i shouldn't have argued with you, you're just making so many fuss. Bye.
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People can have advantage in life like have rich parents, but still live a crap life...
Plus I am talking about Roping in general, not just 1 scheme.
Lold
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I knew i shouldn't have argued with you, you're just making so many fuss. Bye.
Aw cmon man, I am not insulting you, I am not calling you names, imo you are cheater but it doesn't mean I respect you any less, still think you are a cool guy lol, and obviously you are very skilled with rope...
I just enjoy talking about Worms lol.
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EVERY ttrr player knows that ARROWS are more important than spaces, the advantage comes from there.
Replace racer with roper and this is what i'm hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdmu2M7qFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdmu2M7qFo)
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are we talking about someone who uses wallhack or someone who has spent years to become good at what he loves
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haha what you guys talking about, show me 1 roper who is better because he uses AHK
Why is it considered a cheat? A cheat should make you better, not worse.
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We should be GLAD people are actually playing the challenges! If you start banning people it's bad for the community, unless they used something that was really a cheat...
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Nice video runaway! Good response!
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Cheat is something that gives you advantage Instantly and w/o Effort. Just like typing IDDQD. Mastering FR, or tapping with your all 2 hands and 2 legs and nose requires a bit of practice xDDD
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I've been flamed so much by the whole community when i told TOMT that using 2 spaces was a cheat (but it wasn't, because i misunderstood TUS rules), now that i'm using 2 spaces too i get tagged as a cheater. Seriously f@#! off komo and everyone else who thinks so.
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Using third party tools to make oneself better, is considered cheat. It is pathetic of players to use software to benefit oneself over everyone else. Play the game as intended with original control and setting, without any added handicap. Of course you may say ''It is a lot harder with these tools, so it is not cheat!'' You are so wrong buddy.
It is kind of sad how this game has evolved thanks to people who uses third party software, it is almost like the norm these days and people just ''accepts it'' Where's the pride in this? Cheat offline, don't do it online but play fair :)
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I've been flamed so much by the whole community when i told TOMT that using 2 spaces was a cheat (but it wasn't, because i misunderstood TUS rules), now that i'm using 2 spaces too i get tagged as a cheater. Seriously f@#! off komo and everyone else who thinks so.
Haters gonna hate. Simply disregard, you own anyway.
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I've been flamed so much by the whole community when i told TOMT that using 2 spaces was a cheat (but it wasn't, because i misunderstood TUS rules), now that i'm using 2 spaces too i get tagged as a cheater. Seriously f@#! off komo and everyone else who thinks so.
Haters gonna hate. Simply disregard, you own anyway.
That doesn't justify the use of third party tools in a video game, Stylez.
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I've been flamed so much by the whole community when i told TOMT that using 2 spaces was a cheat (but it wasn't, because i misunderstood TUS rules), now that i'm using 2 spaces too i get tagged as a cheater. Seriously f@#! off komo and everyone else who thinks so.
Haters gonna hate. Simply disregard, you own anyway.
That doesn't justify the use of third party tools in a video game, Stylez.
Oh right, even tho I tried hard.
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Stylez, I only expressed myself, no need to try hard :)
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I don't think any1 has ever lost a roperace or roper match simply because of the opponent's tapping was too good, it's the arrows that matter
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Am i wrong or you're not using the latest WA version?
*Bump*