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Title: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 18, 2022, 08:13 AM
Nice challenge Kirill it was fun thank you
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Lupastic on July 18, 2022, 11:11 AM
rawr this is by far the most creative and nicest idea as a chally created in the past few years probably :D good job Kirill thanks for making it, was fun to play this :-* challies from Kirill and Echiko have the old TCB vibes, golden
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: kirill470 on July 18, 2022, 02:16 PM
Nice run vesuvio, Lupastic and ty, шn the future, I plan to continue creating unusual missions. By the way, in this mission there is a second option for passing, although I spent 342 seconds on it. It will be interesting to see if anyone can find this way. I'll wait and then I'll post my replay
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 18, 2022, 06:24 PM
18.07 19:19: Lupastic`FS> time to give up? 18.07 19:19: Lupastic`FS> my run is too good 18.07 19:19: Lupastic`FS> to be beaten 18.07 19:19: Lupastic`FS> only mablak can beat it
8)
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Lupastic on July 18, 2022, 07:36 PM
bah gj : P
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 18, 2022, 08:07 PM
THX :D
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 18, 2022, 11:24 PM
Kirill is such a talented awesome guy
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Lupastic on July 19, 2022, 09:52 AM
nice solution Zaly : > your method was indeed an OG prisonbreak :-\
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 19, 2022, 10:56 AM
i thought about zalos way too as i tried to beat your time lupi... and i think its not rly the challenge win it should not count because now i would need to make a new run and do it that way to have the best time. i once read about it , monkey island was asked to make it possible to honour ways of beating challenges like this and he agreed.. i hope you see it the same way :P
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 19, 2022, 12:18 PM
nice solution Zaly : > your method was indeed an OG prisonbreak :-\
It can easily be Sub 110, which I will upload as soon as I get it.
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it should not count because now i would need to make a new run and do it that way to have the best time
I followed all the rules Ves. I broke out from the prison by climbing the building, using tools that I had.
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 19, 2022, 12:39 PM
nope sry that map has a way designed to break through with weapons.. silly you leave the map and climp on the roof xD EVERY1 can do this but its skillless pointless in timecount !!! for roping and using weapons . so you deserve a honour as it was mentioned before but you not did the exact challenge
btw i cant find where i read it. but its allready mentioned in challenges and in work seen by MI that there comes another way to honor attembs like yours ! but u do not mess with people following the challenge .. where skill is asked
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Lupastic on July 19, 2022, 12:47 PM
this chally belongs to Kirill, maybe he can decide what should happen ^.-
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 19, 2022, 01:35 PM
EVERY1 can do this but its skillless pointless in timecount !!! for roping and using weapon
wtf, vesuvio, are you drunk again? It took me 250 attempts to reach 95.76 that I have right now... 250 attempts!!! and you are talking about how it doesn't require any skill?? Then do it faster than me. I still had to deal with a steep wall and mines greeting me on the top of the building. The challenge is called "Escape the prison" not "Race through the Prison"
LOOK AT MY FOLDER
(https://i.ibb.co/s98gcTd/drunk-vesuvio.png)
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: kirill470 on July 19, 2022, 02:04 PM
GonZaLO found the second way to escape that I mentioned earlier, but I did not expect that it could be faster than the way through the prison itself. (At least according to my tests) I will accept such methods because I expected such a passage but did not expect it to be so fast. It would be nice if the ability to add special subcategories would be implemented in the future on the site
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 19, 2022, 02:09 PM
GonZaLO found the second way to escape that I mentioned earlier, but I did not expect that it could be faster than the way through the prison itself. (At least according to my tests) I will accept such methods because I expected such a passage but did not expect it to be so fast. It would be nice if the ability to add special subcategories would be implemented in the future on the site
When I got my first Sub 130 seconds I was super happy. But then I kept finding more and more and more ways to improve it. If I gave it extra 2 hours maybe I would get Sub 90 seconds. I'm happy that you appreciate alternative & creative ways. So far it took me 10 hours with breaks here and there.
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 19, 2022, 03:34 PM
"It would be nice if the ability to add special subcategories would be implemented in the future on the site"
yes ..
zalo i thought it wasnt that much work for you.. "The challenge is called "Escape the prison" not "Race through the Prison" thats silly because the real challenge is the escape through the prison.. your way kirill thought was not ment to be faster .. in my eyes its just silly for people trien to beat the race challenge... here in this case it had been nice to reward 2 people zalo for his way and also the one who rly did the challenge as it was build .....
but your time effort deserve respect .. could you upload a replay of you roping the prison race zalo ? because i would like to see ur time ^^
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 19, 2022, 05:42 PM
"It would be nice if the ability to add special subcategories would be implemented in the future on the site"
yes ..
zalo i thought it wasnt that much work for you.. "The challenge is called "Escape the prison" not "Race through the Prison" thats silly because the real challenge is the escape through the prison.. your way kirill thought was not ment to be faster .. in my eyes its just silly for people trien to beat the race challenge... here in this case it had been nice to reward 2 people zalo for his way and also the one who rly did the challenge as it was build .....
but your time effort deserve respect .. could you upload a replay of you roping the prison race zalo ? because i would like to see ur time ^^
When doing my 95.76 route, I died upon touching Helicopter mine 5x times at ~95, before I finally made it. As for my race route, I gave up on it because I saw no point in repeating somebody's else idea for finishing the challenge. I am bad at spontaneous roping but good at repeated roping.
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 19, 2022, 05:49 PM
OK U WIN THIS CHALLENGE . FOR YOUR WORK: but "I gave up on it because I saw no point in repeating somebody's else idea for finishing the challenge" thats not correct..... the idear is and challenge is .. to master the race as quick as possible.. but your way is another route in wich you do not mess with the work people put in the map editor made way........ BUT after all u said how much effort and work it was u win
pity is that you do not mess with the rope skills of the way.. not handling weapons like lupastic and me and i wish more :S i dont know if you had a better time if you rope that way through the map.. i thought thats the challenge of having the best time there but your way is impressive .. so congratulation ^^
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Lupastic on July 19, 2022, 06:21 PM
actually I liked the shoot homing missiles to create holes and then flagpole your way up with rope to the top operation, it felt like an antagonist bad guy using climbing hooks to get over a huge wall : ] it was nice, THIS TIME this surely shouldn't be considered as cheating or suttin
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: vesuvio on July 19, 2022, 06:26 PM
true .. zalo cruise challenge impossible
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Echiko on July 19, 2022, 10:01 PM
Nice challenge, well done! :)
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: FoxHound on July 20, 2022, 03:11 AM
very interesting route, ZaLO. Well thought.
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: kirill470 on July 20, 2022, 03:40 AM
Well, in any case, in the final of the challenge, I will manually sum up the results and write who took the first places in the first variant of the passage and who in the second, so you can go in both options, it will be more interesting
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: SIBASA on July 20, 2022, 05:32 AM
Perhaps the situation that vesuvio was talking about is when Pavel-B completed the bungee challenge in 3 turns (https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-24/msg278865/#msg278865) and MonkeyIsland removed the replay out of respect for other participants in the challenge who completed the entire map, and also say that in the new version of the TUS will be added section "honorable attempts". But I think that such a decision was made rather not on behalf of the administrator, but because MI was the host of that challenge and there are no complaints against him.
As for this challenge, Zalo did everything according to the rules, plus Kirill knew about such a passage of the map from the very beginning and did not prohibit such a path, so there should be no complaints against anyone.
P.s. I also remembered the cool passage of the map from Masta (https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-122/msg281380/#msg281380) , which MI was indignant at approved, because in the description of the challenge it was written that "random pumps" are not allowed (although for some reason I don't see this now).
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 20, 2022, 08:52 AM
The route through the right wall, and by climbing to the rooftop might actually be faster. I'm currently working on it, and it seems to make sub 90 possible with perfect climbing.
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: Zalo the moler on July 20, 2022, 11:47 AM
I just uploaded my luckiest ever and most clutch run that I could ever dream of :-X :o :D I am sooooooo done with this challenge :-* I will forever save this replay in my laptop folder and show it to my grandchildren :')
These are all the things that I am proud of in my final time:
Title: Re: Challenge #786, Mission Worms Prison Escape
Post by: kirill470 on January 02, 2023, 12:10 PM