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Title: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 05, 2021, 12:30 AM
Registration for the cup is open
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: FoxHound on June 05, 2021, 12:41 AM
I just wanted to say that Kaleu and I tested this scheme with 9 seconds fuse grenades. In my opinion it is an interesting feature to the scheme, however Kaleu was not convinced enough about this and prefered to keep the scheme as it is, with not so many changes to the original one. So, I suggest people to try playing with 9 seconds grenades to see if they are ok with the idea, since it can be useful with LG shots or "+" bounce.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheKomodo on June 05, 2021, 12:50 AM
Good luck with Cup!

Hopefully it goes well I might stream the finals.  :)
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Gabriel on June 05, 2021, 01:18 AM
I really liked this scheme when I played it years ago, but I remember worm select ending hot seat time. Why would you change it? What are the pros-cons?
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Lupastic on June 05, 2021, 01:37 PM
Come and join it people! : > need more players ♥
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on June 05, 2021, 06:43 PM
bo1 or bo3?
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 05, 2021, 07:14 PM
I just wanted to say that Kaleu and I tested this scheme with 9 seconds fuse grenades. In my opinion it is an interesting feature to the scheme, however Kaleu was not convinced enough about this and prefered to keep the scheme as it is, with not so many changes to the original one. So, I suggest people to try playing with 9 seconds grenades to see if they are ok with the idea, since it can be useful with LG shots or "+" bounce.
I can add and accept the 9 second grenade scheme as a second one if you provide a link to it. If desired and agreed by both players, it will be possible to play it, but the first scheme will be the priority.

I really liked this scheme when I played it years ago, but I remember worm select ending hot seat time. Why would you change it? What are the pros-cons?
All changes and the main goals of creating this scheme are described in the general information, as well as by reference to the scheme itself.

bo1 or bo3?
Thanks for noticing! Added - bo3
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: FoxHound on June 05, 2021, 07:55 PM
I really liked this scheme when I played it years ago, but I remember worm select ending hot seat time. Why would you change it? What are the pros-cons?

Well Worm Selection is there to avoid the practice of Worm Rotation Tactic. This turns the game even more oriented as an artillery scheme, so the one winning doesn't need to worry so much after several hard shots he did if the opponent will easily recover without the need of so many skillful shots. The tactics of teleporting next to a worm or grouping allied worms or friendly fire attacks or suicides will probably not be as useful now in this scheme.

The Worm Selection is there because some people don't like random order of worms. Now definitely answering your question: Worm Selection doesn't end hot-seat time is an important feature v3.8 allowed this scheme to use it because you can change worms during the whole 10 seconds of hot-seat time, before v3.8 if you did that you'd have only one second to do this and still find time to attack. Now you can select the worm you want to play in 4 seconds, use the remaining 6 seconds to think on what to do and prepare an attack and then attack using the whole second.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 07, 2021, 09:51 PM
The Cup has started.
Please do not delay games. If you are inactive for a very long time, then I will have to look for a replacement for you, or transfer more active players from the group to the next stage.
GL&HF
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Zalo the moler on June 08, 2021, 06:45 AM
Today I have been testing this scheme and I am thoroughly impressed. This is such a well-thought change from the other Hysteria. Well done!
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: FoxHound on June 08, 2021, 08:12 AM
I can add and accept the 9 second grenade scheme as a second one if you provide a link to it. If desired and agreed by both players, it will be possible to play it, but the first scheme will be the priority.

That's not necessary. 9 seconds grenades is a feature implemented in RubberWorm probably thinking on Black Hole Gravity or Wind affecting weapons. For Hysteria/Selecsteria this is really a small detail. You would rarely really use the 9 seconds grenades, even though maybe with time the pros may master it and use them instead of petrols depending on the situation. I'll not make a new scheme just to add this.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheKomodo on June 08, 2021, 08:44 AM
9 second fuse in Hysteria gives many more shot possibilities, for example an 8 second low gravity grenade is like a no wind bazooka with LG or petrol with LG, granted you know the height it will explode which only takes 1 attempt to learn and memorize(It's very similar to 4s FP).

Not to mention in general the larger fuses make it possible to roll/bounce grenades deep inside tunnels etc, 5s LG with an extra second becomes a lot more valuable edge to edge.

It's great for funners and doing trick shots, but i'd say it makes it far less challenging in competitive/serious matches for experienced players, this is probably why Team17 limited it to 5s originally, at a guess.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 13, 2021, 09:11 AM
The deadline for the group stage is set to June 27, 2021

If for some reason you cannot contact or agree with your rivals, then write to me and I will help coordinate you.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Lupastic on June 20, 2021, 10:21 PM
Siba, the other players are being inactive even now and I doubt they will play their matches, I know u set the deadline until 27th, but you should look for other players already to fill in place of the inactives. I think it doesn't make sense to wait it out any longer now.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 20, 2021, 11:19 PM
If there are those who want to become a replacement and join the cup - write.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on June 20, 2021, 11:43 PM
You shouldn’t replace people that have played a game, and run has communicated in our group, we just haven’t met up yet.  We’re creating a problem where there is no problem?  I think run will show up before 27th.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 21, 2021, 01:04 AM
I do not see any particular problems, but just in case I asked about those who wish. I'm more confused by the first group
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Mega`Adnan on June 22, 2021, 04:48 PM
Who wants me, I can take place of inactive.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Lupastic on June 22, 2021, 07:32 PM
Who wants me,

I do :-[
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Echiko on June 22, 2021, 09:33 PM
Who wants me, I can take place of inactive.

I am available too to take the place of inactive players.

Edit: I am injuried to the foot so I may not be always visible on snooper, feel free to contact me on discord too, I have it on many devices.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on June 27, 2021, 06:44 AM
The group stage has finished.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Lupastic on June 27, 2021, 10:21 AM
ah noo, I'm gonna get either Conejo or Foxhound next up, not gud :C
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Run on June 28, 2021, 12:15 PM
Damn, sorry for missing my games :/ For some reason it was incredibly difficult to be online at the same time as anyone else...

For what it's worth I would probably have lost all my games anyway, so the outcome is surely unchanged :)
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on July 04, 2021, 09:06 PM
Hal - wed 22 GMT?
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheKomodo on July 04, 2021, 09:51 PM
When it comes to the Final, if you guys can organize it in advance i'd like to stream it if you don't mind!
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on July 04, 2021, 10:32 PM
Hal - wed 22 GMT?
He visits AG under the nickname HalSnoop

If Walrus and Hal do not complete their game by the end of this week, then I will have to move Walrus further, since he is more active and has no defeats in his group.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on July 07, 2021, 11:29 PM
Hal - wed 22 GMT?
If Walrus and Hal do not complete their game by the end of this week, then I will have to move Walrus further, since he is more active and has no defeats in his group.
I don't know about more active, but ive been trying to find him in ag and schedule.  I found him a week ago but he said play later, I know from my experience there is no later and it ends up not happening lol.  Hopefully I find him next few days.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on July 13, 2021, 02:19 AM
Waited for you kaleu, same time wed?
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheKomodo on July 13, 2021, 02:31 AM
Waited for you kaleu, same time wed?

Would you guys be ok to have your match streamed? If you can organize a time in advance?
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on July 13, 2021, 01:09 PM
I often see Donnie on the discord and he quickly answers, I suggest you contact him there.
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: TheWalrus on July 13, 2021, 04:38 PM
Waited for you kaleu, same time wed?

Would you guys be ok to have your match streamed? If you can organize a time in advance?
Previous time we agreed upon for yesterday was 22 GMT, I imagine it would be around then as we both have availability then. 
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Lupastic on July 16, 2021, 02:25 AM
congrats to everyone, and thanks Sibasa for the cup (:
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: SIBASA on July 16, 2021, 07:25 AM
Thank you all for playing this cup and congratulate the winners!
Title: Re: Cup #1118, ◖︎ Selecsteria Cup ◗︎
Post by: Kaleu on July 16, 2021, 02:49 PM
Thanks guys, fun games! And thank you SIBASA for promoting Selecsteria, you rock!