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About "players cannot refuse to have their game streamed and are not allowed to watch the streaming of the match they are playing"
This is really aimed at the Knockout stage, for the group stage I wouldn't worry so much about it, potentially you could have multiple players playing at the same time, or they simply bump into each other online.
The games that are absolutely crucial to organize and stream though are from the Quarter-Finals onwards, those games must be organized in advance. I'd like to stream as many others as possible during the group stage though nothing bad will happen if you just go ahead and play it, we encourage activity!
I'm not very sure about this. I would love to play Dario's scheme and I'm willing to get somewhat brutally annihilated on stream too. I would love to play it just for fun rather than indulging into an obsessive and scupulous analysis of how should I place this dynamite, how should I do that, or even writing down the rotation of the enemy's worms... And all that sort of stuff that just isn't for me. I'm deliberately playing like a noob in that sense, but if hypothetically speaking I could win without having fun, I would rather lose and having fun. So that's my mindset for this. What is really stopping me at this point is the lineup. Those guys are veterans, brutal, and amazing. It's ok for me to lose, even annihilated as I said earlier - but with them? Annihilation is reductive. It will be a merciless bloodbath, an embarassment fully displayed in livestream! I don't know about this. I must think about it. I'll be watching, that much is for sure.
EDIT: It seems there's only a place left. That's not even a question then, I would rather want my place to go to someone like Korydex. That will make it much more fun to watch.
I'm not very sure about this. I would love to play Dario's scheme and I'm willing to get somewhat brutally annihilated on stream too. I would love to play it just for fun rather than indulging into an obsessive and scupulous analysis of how should I place this dynamite, how should I do that, or even writing down the rotation of the enemy's worms... And all that sort of stuff that just isn't for me. I'm deliberately playing like a noob in that sense, but if hypothetically speaking I could win without having fun, I would rather lose and having fun. So that's my mindset for this. What is really stopping me at this point is the lineup. Those guys are veterans, brutal, and amazing. It's ok for me to lose, even annihilated as I said earlier - but with them? Annihilation is reductive. It will be a merciless bloodbath, an embarassment fully displayed in livestream! I don't know about this. I must think about it. I'll be watching, that much is for sure.
EDIT: It seems there's only a place left. That's not even a question then, I would rather want my place to go to someone like Korydex. That will make it much more fun to watch.
I think there should be guidance for new intermediate players helping them improve the tactics, make them learn how to put dynamite,
It's been more than 9 years when I got into Worms, and I still suck at executing tactics or putting dynamite in low gravity mode.
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What about the time of the cup anyway? I can't find this information anywhere on the page, perhaps it's just me... Do you still need to come up with that or am I missing something?
What about the time of the cup anyway? I can't find this information anywhere on the page, perhaps it's just me... Do you still need to come up with that or am I missing something?
I'm not sure if you realize this, though Cups work differently from Tournaments:
Tournaments:
TUS Tournaments are events which have a signups time which lasts usually around 10-30 minutes, then once signups are closed pairings are immediately drawn, players go straight into the Knockout Stage and generally they are all present and active and finish all their games there and then within a matter of hours.
Cups:
Cups are events in which signups can last for anything up to a few weeks or more, once there are enough players the pairings are done and players are organized into Groups. If there are 4 groups, of 4 players, they must all play each other once, the top 2 players from each group are advanced to the Knockout Stage, from there the format is exactly the same as a Tournament although the difference is they organize games in advance just like how CWT/ONL PO works.
With Cups, the moderator will decide a deadline for players to finish their games, once that deadline has been reached the moderator will deal with any Groups or players who have unfinished games as they see fit.
Once the Cup begins, players are responsible for checking who their opponents are and then organizing their own games as efficiently as possible.
Cups usually take anywhere between 2 weeks and several months to finish.
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For anyone that is interested:
Mablak Vs SIBASA - Tonight at 7pm GMT
This will be streamed on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/komito8220)
Edit:
Reminder - SIBASA is away for 1 week, he will report his match against Mablak when he returns.
Someone played this stream under my name and even won, which is very strange :)
Next time, it's better to check who is playing with you, for example, by writing to my discord before that.
For anyone that is interested:
Mablak Vs SIBASA - Tonight at 7pm GMT
This will be streamed on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/komito8220)
Edit:
Reminder - SIBASA is away for 1 week, he will report his match against Mablak when he returns.
Someone played this stream under my name and even won, which is very strange :)
Next time, it's better to check who is playing with you, for example, by writing to my discord before that.
I apologize for the criticism and for questioning the decision that was made at the tournament if that was disrespectful to the moderator's authority.
However, to continue playing my cup games (something I want) I would like to request the following:
1. Only me or my opponent will host my games. And, because the obligation to select the correct scheme belongs to the host and not to the opponent, if one of us selects the scheme with wrong settings, and if this error is not noticed during the entire game by anyone, including spectators of the game, the victory cannot be void if the winner was not responsible for causing the error, that is, if he was not the host of the game.
2. The fact that I received the news that my victory against Mega'Adnan was nullified, and I would have to play again, frustrated me, affected my psychological and performance in the subsequent game, which, for me, generated an unfair result in the second match. You don't need to believe me (as I'm reporting a subjective fact and I can't prove it and it's not something to be considered in re ipsa), but I want you to recognize the fact that, voiding a player's victory, by an error that nobody noticed during the match, it is a fact that can cause frustration, affect the psychological and performance of that player in the next match.
However, to continue playing my cup games (something I want) I would like to request the following:
1. Only me or my opponent will host my games. And, because the obligation to select the correct scheme belongs to the host and not to the opponent, if one of us selects the scheme with wrong settings, and if this error is not noticed during the entire game by anyone, including spectators of the game, the victory cannot be void if the winner was not responsible for causing the error, that is, if he was not the host of the game.
It is fine with me about who hosts your games.
The correct scheme must be used, there is absolutely zero tolerance for mistakes, you compete at your own risk.
It doesn't matter who made the mistake, it doesn't matter who won, the correct scheme and only the correct scheme must be used.
It is the obligation of all participants, whether they are the host or not, to make sure they confirm the setup for the match.
You cannot join an official and competitive match, in a professionally treated environment, especially with a prize, and expect to be lenient about something like this.
What you are asking will directly influence and allow people to carelessly enter matches without even checking if it's correct or not, this is influencing carelessness and inviting countless mistakes and problems.
We have already been through a lengthy debate about why.
You are entitled to your opinion and I really do value you as a player and have came to consider you a friend over the past year, though it will not change the rules unless Dario and I both decide we want to change the rules for this specific Cup.
Alright, so Albus, you back in the Cup?.
If the error is in the number of worms used, since this is a plausible human error but very easy to check, the round(s) will be replayed.
Wow Albus...
Read this carefully:
If you aren't happy with how moderators moderate their own events, don't enter, make your own and you can do whatever you want.
I read what you said, if you aren't happy, leave.
I'm not going to reply again to this because the decision is final, from both Dario and I.
Yes Albus, players will always have a voice when there is something to debate. For example the aqua sheep incident, where hal voiced his opinion, you voiced yours and a decision was taken by the mods.
Some other times there is just nothing to debate because the game played doesn't meet the rules of this cup. For example, the game against fake SIBASA was deleted, there was nothing to debate there, the match was between Mablak and SIBASA, not between Mablak and whoever was impersonating SIBASA.
I am not prepared to spend my entire life talking about philosophy, cultural differences, hypothetical scenarios and theories, opinions and disagreements because you cannot accept a simple mistake with a consequence we were all responsible for.
Maybe because Dario didn't make the mistake, you might listen to him and appreciate his words more.
To sum up all the things that I saw about this cup here and on discord, it's a cup in which...I lol'ed at all of this, I love burner accounts created to lend more credibility to a narrative. Although komo could be more democratic and charitable in his responses, rafka is an emotional midget. If he loses, he falls to pieces, his fragile ego can't take any punishment whatsoever. This is a hard truth he must come to grips with, or alternatively, ignore and continue. It will certainly cause more problems for him in the future. You can single out komo all you want, but he certainly isn't pressing his own bias, dario created this cup and wanted people to play with a certain set of rules, which everyone knew when they signed up.
a) you must listen to some no-name broadcaster, who isn't even its admin on the cup page, or you are kicked out
b) if you win, without noticing subtle changes (like Albus), because the no-name is not competent enough to host the cup properly, your victory against his friend is erased, and if you happen not to win another time, be sure to hear "Mega`Adnan f*cked you up"
c) If it happens that you lose a match, you are completely not used to the scheme, you give up to play next ones, and you inform about it in a civil way on Discord (like Rafka), insisting to keep your loss against your opponent, be sure to hear:
"You suck at 80hp"
"Adnan owned you"
"You f@#!ing bitch, you moan every time you lose"
"You are a little f@#!ing whiny bitch"
"I will happily remove you from the cup"
"You are banned"
"f@#!ing cancer to this community"
"@Mega`Adnan Good job absolutely destroying this piece of shit
"You are a f@#!ing disgrace"
"absolute f@#!ing monster"
d) the no-name sticks to the rules so much that his inability to count worms costs 1 participant a victory, but yet somehow if your valid match takes place, and you have manners to inform about not playing more of them, the no-name will erase your match against your will, and replace you as a participant with his own clan-mate.
e) You can't explain anything, just don't try to, or else you end up hearing loads of things on what a trash you are in real life.
Sounds like a nice ghetto cup.
dario created this cup and wanted people to play with a certain set of rules, which everyone knew when they signed up.
The whole situation was unfair to both parties, both adnan and albus
Rafka is a very good player. Yes he noob-bashes and he becomes picky when he thinks his opponent is not newbie. But calling him names like that is not cool. Trash talking must be done when both players have the mind set for it otherwise it is just plain nasty insults. @Komito it certainly doesn't look good on you. Especially for someone who streams and moderates.
Little ghetto cup
Hosted in the ghetto TUS
Whatcha' gonna do when you grow up
And have to face responsibility?
Little ghetto cup
Your Rafka was blown away
He lost that match against Albus
Don't you know that was a sad, sad old day?
All of your young life
You've seen such a misery and pain
TUS is a cruel place
And it ain't gonna change
If I could go back in time, I don't think I would have accepted playing that game again, or I wouldn't have played in the same day, so fast. It turns out that everything was very fast. At the moment I just thought about obeying Komito's decision, without questioning.
I think it would have been nice if Dario and Komito had consulted me before making the decision.
I said you guys can(must) play again, then you immediately beeped Mega`Adnan(You use the @ command to call him), so then we played. From my perspective it looked like you wanted to play that game immediately so I just hosted again for you after saying "I'm in a clanner right now".
In hindsight, there is a chance waiting would have made you feel better, though I don't think you would have been happy either way unless you won, that is just my opinion based on how you've been acting.
You had the opportunity to speak out and you didn't.
though please be aware I had absolutely no idea you felt uncomfortable about this during that time because you didn't speak up, you should communicate your feelings if you have a problem
Adnan: what about Saturday 11th 13 GMT?.