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Title: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 03, 2022, 08:05 PM
Wow Komito thanks for approving our cup so fast! ^^

Meanwhile, I'll post as usual our medals in a bigger version:

Gold: (https://i.ibb.co/qMZ9T3J/gold.png)

Silver: (https://i.ibb.co/c8Zzz4V/silver.png)

Bronze: (https://i.ibb.co/6R6cX9q/bronze.png)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 03, 2022, 08:34 PM
I want the bronze fox plushie daddy, buy me, buy meeeeee!

(https://media.tenor.com/0rPjitCLTt8AAAAC/cute-kitten.gif)

By the way, we're also still waiting for the Fly Shopper cup to end, the little final for bronze medal between Kevin and Marcello still needs to take place. Good luck for them. ^^ This cup won't start until that finishes first.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Aloha on October 04, 2022, 11:54 AM
hi. yes (PM  Lupastic)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 04, 2022, 11:56 AM
hi. yes (PM  Lupastic)

okay, thank you (:
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Mlaofmd on October 04, 2022, 12:22 PM
that cool cup 8)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Godmax on October 04, 2022, 02:21 PM
Well in my humble opinion this scheme is horseshit high ten. I think this is a 0!
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 04, 2022, 03:41 PM
So like... what stops you from going to the top of the map within first 6 seconds of your turn (or just jetpacking yourself there from the side of the map), and just rain your enemies with tunnels passing through the walls of their caves just to finish them up with quick follow-up mole booms and push all of them to water? that way you can kill 2-4 worms per turn. No one in the replays seems to be interested in that.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 04, 2022, 03:59 PM
So like... what stops you from going to the top of the map within first 6 seconds of your turn (or just jetpacking yourself there from the side of the map), and just rain your enemies with tunnels passing through the walls of their caves just to finish them up with quick follow-up mole booms and push all of them to water? that way you can kill 2-4 worms per turn. No one in the replays seems to be interested in that.

what you are saying is nice in theory once again (: you can't kill "2-4 worms" in 50 seconds by spamming moles only. spamming moles is allowed though, but you're wasting time with it. also it is only optionally good, requires good angle, which you wouldn't get most of the time. a smarter player will go and get the crates and kill 2-4 worms more efficiently having amassed a great arsenal of weapons, while the other player is focused on mole-spamming. but ofc everyone is free to play in their own ways and tactics :P this is a free minded scheme. collecting crates is always primary though, as it is supposed to happen in kaos : ] there are superweapons available, banana as well. (low %, but if you collect a lot, eventually u will have them)

you are banned from entering our cups though, for obvious reasons :) (you edited your comment later, wanted to answer to that too) any other mole player is welcome ^^
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 04, 2022, 04:18 PM
And moreover it's not always true that it is enough to spam moles to kill 2 or more worms. The map is bigger than default mole one and the worms are disposed in a different way (what if among the worms there are yours? Would you sacrify your worms as well? Moreover, you must also be very good in doing that aka you require some skills to do that, otherwise it's just a waste of time imho.

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you are banned from entering our cups though, for obvious reasons :) (you edited your comment later, wanted to answer to that too) any other mole player is welcome ^^

yes, but thanks for checking in anyway zalo :D
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 04, 2022, 05:15 PM
If you are at the top, you need max 25-30 seconds to plop 2 worms. 30-40 seconds to plop 3rd.

I will provide a screenshot in 60 min. Maybe at least Jago will apply that method to win the cup.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 04, 2022, 08:10 PM
Am I banned too? :D

f@#! off adnan :-[

Yes

welcome donnie ^^

13 players so far, me and Echiko agreed that we wait until 16 or 20 players got in, and start like that :) and ofc after the Fly Shopper cup ended with bronze final. welcome everyone, this will be a crazy chaotic cup :-\
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 04, 2022, 09:25 PM
That's the type of (Plop) kills that I would go for if I were to start at the top + at the bottom of the map. I really hope more people will try to kill others this way :S
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 05, 2022, 10:08 AM
That's the type of (Plop) kills that I would go for if I were to start at the top + at the bottom of the map. I really hope more people will try to kill others this way :S

keep in mind zalo that in the cup you wouldn't have 2-3 hours of practise to be able to do the stuff you mentioned above to do in an 1v1 :) in a cup you have you have 1 chance to play and try things, not multiple retries. I downloaded your replays out of curiosity what you posted in your comment, and you spent a good 2-3 hours practise to do that :D first in your 1st comment you mentioned how 2-4 worms can be killed in 50 seconds, and then 3 hours later you posted your next comment with the replays :-[
now, you probably know that this is an 1v1 cup, not a challenge that you can practise for hours? in the cup itself you host the room, invite your opponent, and you start playing right away, there is sadly no chance there to warm up and retry things for a couple of hours until it finally works out ^^

good job there anyway, but as I said, your idea was only nice in theory ;) still, I hope I will see nice moves from the rest of the mole clan members in 1v1's c: maybe someone some day could host a TUS challenge on a mole shopper map where the chally is about plopping worms by creating mole tunnels :D there we can make a lot of attempts to hit a good score and time
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 05, 2022, 10:19 AM
Guys don't forget to download the mappack without modifying the terrain etc. Just pick ours ^^
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 05, 2022, 10:23 AM
Thanks for joining adni!
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 05, 2022, 10:27 AM
There is no cup without Mega`Adnan... cmon join it! ^^

boss woman made the call for you, silly Paky boy ^.- you were added, enjoy
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: kirill470 on October 05, 2022, 10:51 AM
Hmm, I can use my maps with the same configs?
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 05, 2022, 11:03 AM
Hmm, I can use my maps with the same configs?

https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/mappack-549/

You mean maps like these, Kiry? Well sure, just keep in mind that:

"Number of holes set: 30
Type of terrain: Space
Dimensions: 2600x1000"


^ This, in the description. If you keep these options, then you might use your own maps. Or if you want, you could send the arts/maps you made and we will upload them in the mappack? Or upload a separate mappack and players can use your maps too.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 05, 2022, 11:08 AM
Yes kirill, send me the map you want and, after I check everything is ok, I will add it to our mappack. You will be credited as author of course! ^^
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 05, 2022, 11:17 AM
You don't need him to send you the map though. You can add any map on the map database to your mappack. So in this case, Kirill can submit his map as usual. Once the map is in the database you can grab it and add it to your mappack.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 05, 2022, 12:41 PM
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first in your 1st comment you mentioned how 2-4 worms can be killed in 50 seconds

4 worms kill was possible in Rooftop replay, all it took was a bit of blowtorch, too bad I wasted 7 seconds on an inaccurate mole.

Also in average surroundings when you start at the bottom/top of the map, in most cases you are able to plop 2 worms. I will demonstrate in any replay with actual live player.

I was wrong to say that the scheme is completely broken, but in most cases going for plop kills is the most effective way of the gameplay (Unless you truly are spawned far from enemies in the unlucky center of the map, and the distance UP/DOWN is too great.

No worries though, I will stop posting comments here.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 05, 2022, 02:40 PM
You still require some skills to do what you showed us on the replays. However ZaLo, before hosting a cup, me and Lupastic talk a lot about the scheme, and one of the things we try to accomplish is to see if some strategies could be abused or not, thus to prevent uncomfortable situations for every player.

I tried to make a game online with a total unknown player and I tried to go for mole kills. It turns out my opponent decided to go for crates and let's say that he killed more worms than I did in my first turn ^.^'. What you showed anyway requires skills and a dose of luck. Being surrounded by 3 worms at the bottom and being able to kill them in the first turn needs to be accomplished in a very precise way, every second wasted means "mission failed" and a less skilled player would go for crates and kill more worms in the next turn :)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 05, 2022, 06:18 PM
2 more hungarians, welcome : P
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Irtis on October 06, 2022, 10:44 AM
That's the type of (Plop) kills that I would go for if I were to start at the top + at the bottom of the map. I really hope more people will try to kill others this way :S

Nice plops Zalo!
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 07, 2022, 04:48 PM
We received a nice contribution of 7 maps from kirill, they have been added to the mappack so, please, download the updated mappack! ^^
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 07, 2022, 04:55 PM
we're looking for +1 player to have 20. anyone join as the last player? ;o
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Kaleu on October 07, 2022, 05:57 PM
I love the description promo image  ;D
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 09, 2022, 10:13 PM
Cup started with 20 players, good luck : P We will help you with scheduling if needed. Use the scheme, use the maps. Bo3 matches in group stage

I love the description promo image  ;D

thank you donnie, respect goes to Echiko for that ^.-
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Lupastic on October 15, 2022, 10:56 PM
Judit is replaced by VermezinhoDeJacob, welcome ^^ New player in group 3
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 26, 2022, 08:02 PM
Sibasa wrote that he will be available after the 29th October.
So Sibi, we wait for you to come back and don't forget to arrange and play the matches of our cup. Some opponents are reachable on discord :)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on October 31, 2022, 10:30 PM
SIBASA is replaced with Hefty. Please VermenzinhodeJacob, stoner and G to play your matches, as well as danie and Jago.
This is a list of the mandatory matches to go on with the cup:

Group 1: Aloha VS Jago
Group 2: Irtis vs Nous
They are in draw situation
Group 3: G VS danie, G VS Stoner
Group 4: Adnan VS Hefty
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on November 05, 2022, 11:11 PM
KO matches are ready. Bo3 and good luck everyone!
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on November 10, 2022, 04:10 PM
Aloha and NouS, Lupastic and donnie please organise your matches through snooper or TUS.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on November 17, 2022, 07:38 PM
Get ready for the final matches of this cup! For Gold and Silver medal Aloha vs Mega`Adnan and for the Bronze trophy danie vs Lupastic.
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Echiko on November 21, 2022, 05:22 AM
Well guys that's pretty much it, congratulations to the winners of this cup: Mega`Adnan for the gold, Aloha wins the silver and Lupastic gains the bronze trophy. This might have been our last cup on this site. We will see what the future holds. Thanks for playing everyone :)
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Kaleu on November 23, 2022, 06:58 PM
Congratulations Adanan!
Good games all!
Title: Re: Cup #1172, Kaos Mole Shopper
Post by: Mega`Adnan on November 25, 2022, 01:42 PM
Thanks :)
ggs