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Title: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Phanton on May 30, 2010, 09:25 AM
nice scheme ^^
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: WeeM4n on June 03, 2010, 01:49 PM
Incog or Shadow join neone?
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: NAiL on June 04, 2010, 06:20 PM
hmm well this isnt really ttjp, this is "fuel race".

Personally id prefer ttjp, with the fastest time winning like  ttrr. Jet pack on 30 fuel, or unlimited if you wanna play that way im fine either way
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 05, 2010, 10:20 AM
fuel jet pack race > tt jet pack race   :)
 

anyway rules say:
General rules
You can choose between fuel trial jetpack race and timetrial jetpack race. If you can't agree on which one to take, the game will be timetrial.  :-[ >:(
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: inzsome on June 07, 2010, 01:56 PM
Guess I'm in as soon as this gets approved.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 10, 2010, 09:05 PM
Signups are open, sirs :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: chakkman on June 10, 2010, 09:10 PM
1st for the 1st time. What a delight!
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 15, 2010, 08:17 PM
one more and this cup will start :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 15, 2010, 09:18 PM
Ok ;)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 16, 2010, 02:38 PM
16 sounds perfect :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 16, 2010, 02:43 PM
Uh now Joschi signed, too, I will quit, because I won't have time in the next days, I hoped it starts sooner ;(. Have fun guys.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 16, 2010, 03:13 PM
here are 2 schemmes, imo this long race sux and its less exiting :)
Kayz also uploaded this 2 schemmes to your schemmes database
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 16, 2010, 03:37 PM
I uploaded the both schemes for Fuel and Time Trial in the public scheme site. :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 16, 2010, 06:53 PM
Guess we'll start at 16 :)
Kayz, you can sign up again, especially if you're only prevented for a couple of days
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 16, 2010, 10:30 PM
Well I am on vacation, and won't have internet and worms, and I am back at 10th July, so no way ;). It just fits with the Intermediate cup, because the Group stage goes until 28th.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: nappy on June 17, 2010, 08:28 PM
Wait, 10 sec for turn + 30 sec for retreat isn't time trial, it is classic turn-based jpr. Time trial and fuel trial are actually the same, they use scheme with unlimited fuel and unlimited turn time (current cup scheme). So what's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 18, 2010, 12:19 PM
Wait, 10 sec for turn + 30 sec for retreat isn't time trial, it is classic turn-based jpr. Time trial and fuel trial are actually the same, they use scheme with unlimited fuel and unlimited turn time (current cup scheme). So what's wrong with it?
yea this basic schemme is ok(imo best for this kind of cups).
Kayz and me  uploaded this schemmes, cause turn based jpr is cool too(imo more exiting).
Anyway turn-baset jpr can be played in 2 variation too "time trial"(waste fual and fly as fast as possible) or 'fuel trial(save your fuel..).
I also think "turn based fuel trial" is simply best.... U have to be good in both way of jet pack racing.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: nappy on June 18, 2010, 12:54 PM
Um, how would you play turn-based fuel trial?
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 18, 2010, 01:38 PM
Hm you could read the scheme description I gave with the scheme.
You have unlimited jetpacks, and unlimited time, and unlimited nades, but the rule is to use only one jetpack each turn, so you fly away your fuel and use some retreat time after dropping the nade. This is not as boring as the other scheme. The one who can use his fuel better gets further, simple.

Edit:

Ok this is no pure fuel trial, but it teaches both skills, flying fast, and flying with as less fuel as possible. If both players get to the finish in their retreat time, you just fly back the map when you reach finish, to see, who gets further.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 18, 2010, 01:49 PM
yea I played it on WO some time ago, but basic schemme for this CUP is good too... anyway it checks only 1 kind of "skills" ... flying fast or flying with as less fuel as possible  :-[
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: nappy on June 18, 2010, 09:42 PM
Hm you could read the scheme description I gave with the scheme.
You have unlimited jetpacks, and unlimited time, and unlimited nades, but the rule is to use only one jetpack each turn, so you fly away your fuel and use some retreat time after dropping the nade. This is not as boring as the other scheme. The one who can use his fuel better gets further, simple.

Edit:

Ok this is no pure fuel trial, but it teaches both skills, flying fast, and flying with as less fuel as possible. If both players get to the finish in their retreat time, you just fly back the map when you reach finish, to see, who gets further.
This is what I call classic turn-based jpr, it isn't trial. Trials became available with 3.6.29.0, involving advanced jetpack power settings (used for unlimited fuel).


Edit: oh well, this variant with 90 fuel isn't classic, my fault. I like it as well, though still it isn't trial, it's turn-based.

--------------------------

Okay, I suggest the following thing then.
For group games: players have to agree on some type of trial. If they can't, they play this mixed turn-based variation.
For knockout games: as they are bo3, you play time trial and fuel trial as first two games. If there is a draw, then the mixed one comes as decider.

How does it sound?
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on June 18, 2010, 10:19 PM
Very good.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 18, 2010, 11:15 PM
Very good.

You're not even in the cup ???

The turnbased racing kind of leaves the possibility of luck, doesn't it?
If you enter a long vertical shaft, it won't matter whether you run out of time just before reaching the top or just after reaching the shaft.

That's not too far if you ask me. There's a reason regular RR isn't used in this league anymore :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 19, 2010, 09:25 AM
Tenori idea sounds most fair!
Keep in mind its very fast schemme so playing extra round is not a problem..
and I dont see any luck in this schemme(all variations).
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 19, 2010, 11:51 AM
and I dont see any luck in this schemme(all variations).

If you enter a long vertical shaft, it won't matter whether you run out of time just before reaching the top or just after reaching the shaft.

 ::)

A small advantage could turn into a huge advantage because of this, but also, a huge advantage could disappear like this, not because you were much better/worse than the other, but because of luck (timer ran out!)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 19, 2010, 12:11 PM
I dont understand what  talking about  :-[

"If both players get to the finish in their retreat time, you just fly back the map when you reach finish, to see, who gets further."


Anyway as a mod pls tell us how to play this cup before we start..
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 19, 2010, 01:21 PM
Well, you can pick turn based jetpack racing if you absolutely want to do that, but if you can't agree on which type to use, go with timetrial :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on June 19, 2010, 01:58 PM
imo TT idea was much better but ok, You are the mod here.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 19, 2010, 02:25 PM
but? ???
TT is the version used if neither player can agree
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: anoamas321 on June 20, 2010, 10:57 AM
my computer died, so i ended up having to install ubuntu, on my laptop, and now im trying to set up xp virtually but that is failing i does not seem to like the product key even though its the one on the CD. so untill i get that sorted or find another way of running WA i wont be able to compete. btw i did try just putting xp on my laptop but got BSOD everytime i tried.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: anoamas321 on June 20, 2010, 03:28 PM
iv have now manged to get WA to work, so anyone in my group msn me on pspeasegood@hotmail.co.uk to arrange our game
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Joschi on June 22, 2010, 12:50 PM
I m not an expert in jetpack race, but after finishing my first game I want to vote for Kayz scheme. The game finished within 1 round is just boring ;) To my group members: call me or just show up! :p
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Ombi on June 26, 2010, 08:54 AM
MY OPPONENTS please be available in this weekend I'm going to holiday next week, I will be completely offline a whole week!

I searched for you a lot of times in #AG so please host Snooper at least!
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 26, 2010, 04:21 PM
I searched for you a lot of times in #AG so please host Snooper at least!

Quote from: cup description
And finally, please arrange your game if you can't find your opponent! If your opponent is hard to reach because of time zones or active clanning/single league, it would help enormously if there's one day/time when your opponent can find you.

gogogo  8)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Ombi on June 27, 2010, 10:10 PM
I'm so active and played 2 of 3 games so do not disqualify me in next week, i am going to be on holiday.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 29, 2010, 03:28 PM
Reminder sent to all that haven't finished yet
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Joschi on June 29, 2010, 08:00 PM
1. You are doing a very good job, D1. Your notifications are always helpful.

2. Jagguuuuuuu, I always see you in #AG, only not this days. Tell me when you can play.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on June 29, 2010, 08:32 PM
Cheers, sir 8)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Stripe on June 30, 2010, 07:09 AM
Joshi Jaggu is away for a week he told me that few day ago:)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on July 01, 2010, 03:14 PM
Joshi Jaggu is away for a week he told me that few day ago:)
bulshit he just played 2 onl games  :)
guys! i am out since friday till wednesday
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Stripe on July 02, 2010, 04:13 PM
He was offline 1 week:)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on July 07, 2010, 09:50 AM
wormiverse,chakkman pls tell here when U will be able to play our game.
I saw your game, and I think U both are better then me:) so it should fast easy game for You.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: chakkman on July 07, 2010, 05:15 PM
Sorry Koras, i didn't rly pay much attention to this cup... won't be able to play tonight (well maybe after Germany played ;)), but probably the next days if thats ok for you.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on July 07, 2010, 05:47 PM
Sorry Koras, i didn't rly pay much attention to this cup...
lol nice to hear that,just dont forget sign up to next cup in next days  :D
my snoop and msn will be on when I am online.
btw gl in semifinal!
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: chakkman on July 07, 2010, 05:52 PM
Hehe thx. Well thing is i joined 3 cups at a time where i was prety inactive so didn't rly get to get my games played...
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on July 12, 2010, 03:26 PM
LOL at this cup :)
today i asked about jpr game wormiverse at msn and he didnt even said 'NO'  ;)
I suggest to cancel or just close this cup...
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on July 12, 2010, 05:45 PM
If you don't count group 1 (which is filled with notorious cup delayers), this cup isn't all that inactive
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on July 13, 2010, 02:20 PM
Since I am back of my holidays, could I replace some inactive guy? :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on July 13, 2010, 02:32 PM
Since I am back of my holidays, could I replace some inactive guy? :)

I wish I'd thought of that idea :-[

I'm not on my own computer at the moment, so you'll have to wait till I get home.
You'll be replacing someone in group 1. I have to find out which is the most notorious inactive player.
I know it's not Phanton :)

edit: Turko, it is!
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on July 13, 2010, 06:49 PM
Ty, Sir  :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Ombi on July 15, 2010, 07:38 AM
Congratulations to group 2, we finished first :P
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on July 15, 2010, 07:03 PM
Haksch, Phanton, Orel, please contact me via PM or MSN to arrange our games...
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Phanton on July 18, 2010, 03:06 PM
GL Kayz in turney...
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on July 29, 2010, 09:36 PM
No sign of HakscH or OREL for weeks!

At least Phanton caught me in ag. Thanks for that  ;)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on July 30, 2010, 12:34 PM
No sign of HakscH or OREL for weeks!

At least Phanton caught me in ag. Thanks for that  ;)
try catch him on WO tourneys:)
he is very active there.....
http://wormolympics.com/players/OREL
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on July 30, 2010, 06:14 PM
I spoke with OREL, he said "you won". So he quits the cup, do I report anything? Or just nothing?  ???
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on August 30, 2010, 06:51 PM
Decisions for the group as they stand now:
Group 1: OREL has been kicked out of all cups (and he already voluntarily left this one), because he was slowing down lots of cups without ever arranging a game. Haksch is also terribly inaccessible. As it stands, Kayz and Phanton will go to the knockouts.

Group 2: You guys are all active! And yet, you're not getting the games done... I don't think I can let any of you to the next round if you don't play or arrange games.

PM sent to remaining group phase players:
Quote
The summer vacation time is almost over, which means deadlines are coming back to TUS cups!
The deadline for this cup is September 5th 00:00 GMT
Since the rounds have taken a long time already, I'm going to need people to arrange their games in the cup threads. After all, you would've found your opponent already if waiting for them had worked.
This is how you arrange a game.
Quote
Let's play our game next Sunday at 8PM GMT

This is not how you arrange games
  • Hey, meet me in AG anytime
  • I can't find my opponent!
  • I messaged my opponent, but he didn't answer
  • Yeah, we'll play our game soon
  • Let me know when you can play!
  • Let's play in an hour

Remember: if you're slow in your own cup, you will make it impossible for others to host new cups.

Tick tock :o

https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-67/
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on September 06, 2010, 07:21 PM
No more response and the deadline has been reached.
Decision made according to previous post.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on September 09, 2010, 07:22 PM
This is unfair  :-\ :)
I asked wormiverse to play this game many times, but he dont even ansver me.
I am very active while they are not, i also won my game and I am first place in group but for some strange reasone U kick me from tourney...
nice
thanks....
and lol why Kayz and Phantom may play in Po even if their group was less active?:)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on September 09, 2010, 09:05 PM
Why do I have to kick people out of cups before I get responses? :'(
Seriously, it takes 1 minute to let me know what's going on...

Your last post was from July. I posted about deadlines about 3 weeks ago (in August) and sent you a PM, warning you to arrange the games.
You haven't posted since.
A few days before the deadline, I sent you a PM and in that PM, I linked you to this thread.

Decisions for the group as they stand now:
Group 2: You guys are all active! And yet, you're not getting the games done... I don't think I can let any of you to the next round if you don't play or arrange games.

If you still manage to find one of your remaining opponents to play and win, I'll ask MI to turn back the decision.
You'll have to do it quickly, though. If Kayz and Joschi have played before you have, I'm not going to ask him to do it anymore.
It's in your hands!

To answer your second question: see the quote above.

Decisions for the group as they stand now:
Group 1: OREL has been kicked out of all cups (and he already voluntarily left this one), because he was slowing down lots of cups without ever arranging a game. Haksch is also terribly inaccessible. As it stands, Kayz and Phanton will go to the knockouts.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on September 10, 2010, 07:33 PM
Like I said wormiverse dont even ansver me when he is at ag.
I asked him about 6/7 times.

"21:31:NNNlKoras> hi
21:31:RoH`Wormiverse> In-game...
21:31:NNNlKoras> dark one want kick us from tourney
21:31:NNNlKoras> cup*
21:31:NNNlKoras> jet pack race
21:31:NNNlKoras> cause U dont want play vs me
21:32:NNNlKoras> go to forum and write your reasones, if U still dont wanna pla
"
maybe this time he will ansver lol
but I am sure he won't
Chakman is inactive I didnt saw him at ag since ages.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: chakkman on September 10, 2010, 08:11 PM
Koras, this cup has been going now for so long that we simply lost interest. :) Wormi would answer you tho if he had read your messages. DarkOne, you can advance Koras and Nail i guess, i dont think Wormi and me will get the games played anyway... not sure about him though, i'll ask him.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on September 10, 2010, 08:30 PM
You know I asked you guys to arrange the games at least 10 times now, right? ???

We'll see what wormiverse does.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: chakkman on September 10, 2010, 08:33 PM
Ya, I must confess that i wasn't too motivated to play my games...
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on September 12, 2010, 05:03 PM
Yesterday I saw him at ag too.
Of course he didnt ansver me...
btw he use The Wheat Snooper so he can see every message  >:(
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on September 13, 2010, 07:36 PM
Koras, I've decided to proceed you and you'll have to play Stripe.
If Phanton and Shadow finished their games and you still haven't, I'm allowing the winner of that game to play Stripe.

Please post here if you and Stripe have played and I'll ask MI to fix the standings, so you can report.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on September 14, 2010, 01:56 PM
Koras, I've decided to proceed you and you'll have to play Stripe.
If Phanton and Shadow finished their games and you still haven't, I'm allowing the winner of that game to play Stripe.

Please post here if you and Stripe have played and I'll ask MI to fix the standings, so you can report.
thanks
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Phanton on September 28, 2010, 03:15 PM
no time for cup u win shadow....will surrender...gl
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Stripe on October 02, 2010, 01:51 PM
I win with Koras.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on October 02, 2010, 06:46 PM
You can report now, Stripe :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Koras on October 23, 2010, 05:19 PM
stripe wtf?!
i bet he lost replay........
I will talk with him tomorrow. Its time to finish this cup1
just 1 game left and we finally have final +3rd palce match!

btw why loser cant raport?:)
"You shouldn't report if you have lost or draw in this game."
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on October 23, 2010, 06:08 PM
stripe wtf?!
i bet he lost replay........

Yeah, that's why I send you a PM to please upload the replay :)
I think he sent you one too!

Please upload it here, so Stripe can report as soon as possible. It's about time this tourney is going to wrap up :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Stripe on October 31, 2010, 10:28 AM
Shadow please pm me with time u are avaiable to play... or just catch me on ag im almost everyday ;/
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on November 12, 2010, 02:14 AM
Shadow hasn't been on TUS for a while now. If he hasn't signed on before monday, I'm kicking him out.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on November 15, 2010, 04:30 PM
Alright then, Kayz vs Stripe in the finals :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on November 21, 2010, 07:02 PM
Deadline set for the finals. No playing = no winner unless I can obviously see which of you is trying harder.
Saying "I'm on messengers all the time" and "Tell me when you want to play" are not considered serious efforts.
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on December 09, 2010, 10:00 PM
Oh nice, the cup didn't die. I gonna play with Stripe, if I find him :)
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on December 10, 2010, 08:53 PM
I think you forgot to read my previous post :o
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Kayz on December 10, 2010, 08:58 PM
Not really, I just didn't see you put a deadline at the end of November, I didn't get any private message, so I thought this cup was just aborted. ;o I didn't get a response of Stripe yet, and it sucks that there will be no winner actually, because I all the time played my games and had to wait in the final for a damn long time. 'd be quite unfair, no?
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: DarkOne on December 10, 2010, 09:07 PM
True :) I´ll let the winner depend on what happens now with regards to Stripe. He hasn´t been online for some time now
Title: Re: Cup #67: Poll cup #4: Jetpack Race
Post by: Chelsea on December 16, 2010, 09:54 AM
finally this cup finished !