Game #24686 vs. Thouson
1. he win
2. draw
3. and 4. he drop
result 0-1
wtf? why he made report, that he win 0-2 ?
i think, that we must play 2nd game, result 0-1.
YOU DROPED in last game,and in the 3RD GAME, was a DESYNCRONIZATION,do you know what is it?
and when u dropped and in the desyncronized game, i was in advantage.Why i need to play mora games to you net drop when i am winnig??
gg man.
Could be me, but I actually liked Dmitry's positions better in both disconnect/desynchronization games
But I'll let the cup moderator sort this out :)
in both...in last i was killing 2 worms...and i was in a better position in game in last....and in last he net down
Dimitry would have been unable to kill both thouson worms. Dimitry kills one of them : then thouson will use armageddon for draw=Draw
Void the game and replay it ......
depends teh hide of he...if i use rope,i can kill one of them,and the sd up water to kill other...or i can knock to plop other...In the last game i would kill 2 using shotgun..i kill 1,and would kill the worm in left
i want use laser + lg + shotgun (2x2)
Quote from: doubletime on April 21, 2010, 04:11 PM
Hi!
My name is Doubletime.
I post in complaint threads as if I were a mod and posting decisions which should be followed through to the letter.
Please disregard.
imho.
Compare for example with the post that Thouson made: he comments on the game in question without pretending he has any say in the outcome of the game (+1 rep from me there)
Now how about we let our cup moderator make a decision here when he comes online?
what you mean D1? You didn't say anything so i wanted to give my opinion. And im right wich means that my opinion should be the same as the cup moderators opinion...
Ok.Lets wait what the MOD (ryuuzaki) decide...
mod. say pls
MOD, u here?
I've sent him a pm about this complaint, but he hasn't been online since then yet. He'll get here.
In the meantime, the cup won't be proceeded yet, so no problem :)
Sorry the delay, I'm having problems with my connection, so its being difficult to take a day to post here.
I'm gonna check this now.
I watch the replays, and my decision is simple, Thouson Won.
Best of 3 are 3 games, no matter what happen, it has to be best of 3 games, anyway if any game ends with a draw (1x1) I dont think there is a way to draw in TUS, so in this case you can play a "4th round". But Thouson won the first round, and then you draw the second, this tird round would be the last.
I agree with Dimitry that in the tird round he would have won if wasnt the network problem, but if I were Dimitry I would not try to complain.
Why?
I should ask Drimitry to send me his replay too but i dont need because of one little mistake he did.
HE WAS the Home Player/Host, and the Home/Host is the responsible of the "game configuration", and the rules says that YOU HAVE TO SET THE MEDIC KIT SET TO "+"
And when you put the sinal of "+" all worms starts with 312 LP, but in this game worms started with 250 LP.
So, Thouson as the away player has the right to ask for another game OR NOT, if he choose to play another game, you guys will play normally, but if he doenst agree to play again, he will be declared the winner complaining that Dimitry (host) broke the rules.
I dont want to harm anyone, I just want you to know that we have rules, and you need to read and follow, I do watch other games with the same mistake, but its up to the Host to follow the Host rules and to the opponent to choose if he will complain or not.
Sorry the hole text (and grammar mistakes), but I like to speak A LOT.
sorry. but when he host, he use this scheme too !
why he made report , when he not win me?
and today (at this moment) i think we must play again (result 0-0), becouse game ago few days.
you can complay the other game (the one he host), but you won, its up to you, you really want to play again?
and about the game you host, Thouson has to choose what to do :)
2 games are not ended, give I too made report!!!
wtf???????
Impudence. You there all than think? It is right?
You BAD MOD! if u cannt to understand situations.
if he want - made report. why ? game not finish!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Ryuuzaki on April 23, 2010, 04:57 AM
HE WAS the Home Player/Host, and the Home/Host is the responsible of the "game configuration", and the rules says that YOU HAVE TO SET THE MEDIC KIT SET TO "+"
And when you put the sinal of "+" all worms starts with 312 LP, but in this game worms started with 250 LP.
Thouson is not a little child. He could have mentioned that the scheme was not correct, but he didn't.
This means that he
agreed on the settings of the game. The settings were the same other games as well. The settings were the same in the games that Thouson hosted.
Therefor, I disagree that the schemes are the reason for Thouson getting a win. You've said yourself that Dmitry's position was better.
Dmitry is not asking for a win, he's asking for the games to be replayed. And I think he is right in asking.
Decision: games are to be replayed at the score of 1-0 for Thouson. Dmitry hosts, but he will use the scheme as told in the rules (that means a + handicap in health for both teams = 312 HP!)
Game has been deleted. The replay for the first round is attached in case you deleted it and need to report when the games are finished.
he special use laser, wtf? he not read forum !!!!!
i think he made this special. ;)
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/game-25040/
wtf ? ;)
lmao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe i won ?! :D
he really noob, becouse not know when made report.
i have "+" in game - 1st,2nd,3rd games, and 3 games his first turn !!!
i cannt play again, again and again then he have first turn and result 0-1
Sorry but I need to be impartial, I cant let you to replay unless you too have an agree for that
Ok, they played again, this ends here, thank you for playing Full Wormage World Cup.
/+/ Strong Hug /+/
2x0 Thouson, enogh talk, win the other guy from your group
wtf. MOD ?
why he won ?
I also would like to know why Thouson is getting a win when it could just as easily be his connection that's failing.
If there's no good reason for this decision, then I suggest Thouson and Dmitry get someone else to host the game at the score 1-0 for Thouson to see where the problem lies.
Just finish this game. No more unnecessary reports and complaints if there are lagouts.
If necessary, use handicaps.
0-1, my first turn in round 2nd round ?)
Quote from: DarkOne on April 27, 2010, 11:15 AM
I also would like to know why Thouson is getting a win when it could just as easily be his connection that's failing.
If there's no good reason for this decision, then I suggest Thouson and Dmitry get someone else to host the game at the score 1-0 for Thouson to see where the problem lies.
Just finish this game. No more unnecessary reports and complaints if there are lagouts.
If necessary, use handicaps.
Ok, ive never had an arguement in english, i'll try to use my vocabulary to let you understand.
Thouson and Dimitry playerd at least 5 rounds, i asked Thouson upload all the replays
i want you to watch the long of every replay, as you can see there are always network drop.
Well as far as I know, I read somewhere dimitry saiyng he had connection problems, but i still doenst have proves to say that so, to get things easily
I want Dimitry to upload his replay in any hostAny replay about Dimitry vs Thouson in Full Wormage World Cup BUT NOT THE FIRST GAME, the first game is allright.
I want to watch every replay and I want you to see the logs of Thouson just to have things clear that were desynchronization problems and drops, etc etc
Because everytime they play, there is a connection problem and they play again, and again.
If anyone (Thouson and Dimitry) prove about what they say I'LL BE THE HOST NEXT TIME.
and will be only 2 rounds, because Thouson already won 1 round.
Dmitry85 Replays:
Thouson Raplays: http://rapidshare.com/files/381370166/Worms.rar.html
Quote from: Ryuuzaki on April 29, 2010, 12:22 AM
Quote from: DarkOne on April 27, 2010, 11:15 AM
I also would like to know why Thouson is getting a win when it could just as easily be his connection that's failing.
If there's no good reason for this decision, then I suggest Thouson and Dmitry get someone else to host the game at the score 1-0 for Thouson to see where the problem lies.
Just finish this game. No more unnecessary reports and complaints if there are lagouts.
If necessary, use handicaps.
Ok, ive never had an arguement in english, i'll try to use my vocabulary to let you understand.
Thouson and Dimitry playerd at least 5 rounds, i asked Thouson upload all the replays
i want you to watch the long of every replay, as you can see there are always network drop.
Well as far as I know, I read somewhere dimitry saiyng he had connection problems, but i still doenst have proves to say that so, to get things easily I want Dimitry to upload his replay in any host
Any replay about Dimitry vs Thouson in Full Wormage World Cup BUT NOT THE FIRST GAME, the first game is allright.
I want to watch every replay and I want you to see the logs of Thouson just to have things clear that were desynchronization problems and drops, etc etc
Because everytime they play, there is a connection problem and they play again, and again.
If anyone (Thouson and Dimitry) prove about what they say I'LL BE THE HOST NEXT TIME.
and will be only 2 rounds, because Thouson already won 1 round.
If
NOONE (Thouson and Dimitry) prove about what they say I'LL BE THE HOST NEXT TIME.
Quote from: Ryuuzaki on April 29, 2010, 12:49 AM
If NOONE (Thouson and Dimitry) prove about what they say I'LL BE THE HOST NEXT TIME.
I like this idea
Quote from: DarkOne on April 24, 2010, 09:30 AM
Thouson is not a little child. He could have mentioned that the scheme was not correct, but he didn't.
This means that he agreed on the settings of the game. The settings were the same other games as well. The settings were the same in the games that Thouson hosted.
Therefor, I disagree that the schemes are the reason for Thouson getting a win. You've said yourself that Dmitry's position was better.
Dmitry is not asking for a win, he's asking for the games to be replayed. And I think he is right in asking.
Decision: games are to be replayed at the score of 1-0 for Thouson. Dmitry hosts, but he will use the scheme as told in the rules (that means a + handicap in health for both teams = 312 HP!)
Sorry, but, i didnt know about this Laser Sight bug, Monkey Island mentioned that in the Full Wormage World Cup section.
Quote from: DarkOne on April 21, 2010, 03:25 PM
Could be me, but I actually liked Dmitry's positions better in both disconnect/desynchronization games
But I'll let the cup moderator sort this out :)
In your first post you also said that Dmitry position was better, so YOU DID WATCH THE REPLAY and didnt SAID NOTHING about this bug.
You should have mentioned Dmitry and Thouson that Laser Sight cause bugs in game because you are not "little child". But, you make the
decision that they should replay the game even knowing that Dmitry used the Laser Sight on the tird round of the first game.
Only after Thouson used the Laser Sight on the Rematch you told him to stop using Laser Sight again.
What am I suppose to do now?
Now i saw that neither Dmitry nor Thouson are gulty, maybe youre right Thouson could have some connections problems too but the first game is the VALID ONE.
Round 1 - Thouson won.
Round 2 - Drawn.
Round 3 - Network Drop.
It was not Dmitry fault, ALSO was not Thouson fault, so why they played again?
I came here and told, Dmitry didnt respect the rules about host, ANY AWAY PLAYER can complain because they dont choose the scheme etc.
Dmitry can complain about they're firt game because Thouson ALSO did the SAME MISTAKE, Worms started with 250 HP.
And the punishment for those who NOT RESPECT THE RULES is to LOOSE the game by 2 - 0 but Dmitry HAS ALREADY WON this game.
I want to appologize Dmitry and Thouson, but I have a final decision, but for me after know about this BUG, Thouson won by 1-0.
If Thouson wants, he can complain about Dmitry mistake on mark "x" instead of "+"
Dmitry will Still have chance to classified, he is a great player as I watch the game and he can win the other guy, and destiny is in his side because loosing by 1-0 is better then 2-0 and make difference.
The second game will not be vallid because on this conditions its not up to Thouson to agree or not playing a second game.
But, this is not my site, I dont own nothing here, you MODs make the decision.
I didn't know about this bug until MonkeyIsland posted about this, so please don't blame this on me.
Dmitry has asked a couple of times to be removed from the cup (as I also posted on the cup forum), so that should make things easier.
Thouson, I would appreciate if you wouldn't report wins for lagouts anymore. It's annoying when people lag out, but that doesn't mean it's their fault.
Your reports have only annoyed everybody else. How about posting on the forums what to do instead of assuming you earn a win? I'm certain things wouldn't have escalated if you did this.
If you had posted in the forums: "We keep lagging out. What should we do?" Then I'm certain Dmitry wouldn't have reacted the way he's done now. He would have tried to find a way to get things done and he would not insult.
Dmitry, I know it was annoying that he kept reporting wins when there were lagouts, but seriously, relax. There's no need to react like this. It's this sort of reaction that continually gets ZiPpO in trouble. Don't make the same mistake.
Cup has been closed due to inactivity, so the complaint is no longer relevant :-[