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I mean the Covid-19 Vaccine aeee
Here in Brazil they are on 60+ yet lol week by week they are going down 59, 58... better than nothing ae
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I got my second shot over a week ago, so I'm just a few short days away from being able to lick lampposts again.
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I got my second shot over a week ago, so I'm just a few short days away from being able to lick lampposts again.
Cool ae!
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In the middle of may i should get 1st stuff xD
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In the middle of may i should get 1st stuff xD
not bad ae m8.
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I haven't, and I won't.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have died due to dire side-effects.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have gotten Covid-19 later, and died.
People choose safety over liberty, because of a manufactured Chinese threat. These waves, and new variation, will keep on coming our way. As a result, human Immune system weakens, and get dependent on more vaccine dosages. It is more easier for people to be infantilized, and have their freedom sacrificed, in the name of safety, that is provided by Governments.
When I step outside, I weep, I don't recognize the world anymore. People are indoctrinated in small dosages, and enslaved by fear & propaganda. Many have seem to forgotten what freedom is. It was like it was taken for granted.
Worse, Covid-19 Certificates are becoming a thing now. People who chooses not to take the vaccine, will be seen as biohazardous carrier of deadly diseases, and then be ostracised. Their freedom, their rights, will vanish, and people will be sent to Corona Camps. Covid-19 passport, is somewhat similar to the IBM punch card, used by the Nazis.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2
But there is hope.... Already now there are freedom fighters in London & Zurich, in the high thousands. People who dare to stand up to what is right, and not is easy. I just wish more people had the courage to stand up for their rights.
Sadly, people who stands against this, will be chastised, labelled, laughed at, & excluded. You have to have the same opinion as the rest of the collective, otherwise you are full of sin, you will be hung.
So in a way, Governments overshadows God, people become dependent on Government, and people follow the rules & guidelines of the Government. So if you don't follow completely, you will be crossed There is no room for faith anymore. Typically ''some'' Governments hates when God is the true ruler.
Instead of vaccine, I encourage to find common sense, find faith in whatever religion you may believe in. Even if you sin in religion, you can find forgiveness through God.
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I mean the Covid-19 Vaccine aeee
Here in Brazil they are on 60+ yet lol week by week they are going down 59, 58... better than nothing ae
here in chile its like at 45 years
chilean government has been handling this stuff terribly, quarantine periods make no damn sense
aint this shaky mf piñera lucky, if covid didnt strike people would still be rioting for him to get the fudge out
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So in a way, Governments overshadows God, people become dependent on Government, and people follow the rules & guidelines of the Government. So if you don't follow completely, you will be crossed There is no room for faith anymore. Typically ''some'' Governments hates when God is the true ruler.
Instead of vaccine, I encourage to find common sense, find faith in whatever religion you may believe in. Even if you sin in religion, you can find forgiveness through God.
I don't belive in any God. Zeus, Jezus, Allah ect. - it's not for me. ;)
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I haven't, and I won't.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have died due to dire side-effects.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have gotten Covid-19 later, and died.
People choose safety over liberty, because of a manufactured Chinese threat. These waves, and new variation, will keep on coming our way. As a result, human Immune system weakens, and get dependent on more vaccine dosages. It is more easier for people to be infantilized, and have their freedom sacrificed, in the name of safety, that is provided by Governments.
When I step outside, I weep, I don't recognize the world anymore. People are indoctrinated in small dosages, and enslaved by fear & propaganda. Many have seem to forgotten what freedom is. It was like it was taken for granted.
Worse, Covid-19 Certificates are becoming a thing now. People who chooses not to take the vaccine, will be seen as biohazardous carrier of deadly diseases, and then be ostracised. Their freedom, their rights, will vanish, and people will be sent to Corona Camps. Covid-19 passport, is somewhat similar to the IBM punch card, used by the Nazis.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2
But there is hope.... Already now there are freedom fighters in London & Zurich, in the high thousands. People who dare to stand up to what is right, and not is easy. I just wish more people had the courage to stand up for their rights.
Sadly, people who stands against this, will be chastised, labelled, laughed at, & excluded. You have to have the same opinion as the rest of the collective, otherwise you are full of sin, you will be hung.
So in a way, Governments overshadows God, people become dependent on Government, and people follow the rules & guidelines of the Government. So if you don't follow completely, you will be crossed There is no room for faith anymore. Typically ''some'' Governments hates when God is the true ruler.
Instead of vaccine, I encourage to find common sense, find faith in whatever religion you may believe in. Even if you sin in religion, you can find forgiveness through God.
Lol Krand0r, f@#! off god, good or no, vaccine is helping a lot to make less peoples sick and die.
you may believe in god np ae but god is just a word.
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Even people who believe in God are also taking vaccines. :P
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I haven't, and I won't.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have died due to dire side-effects.
Some people who have taken the shot, & have gotten Covid-19 later, and died.
People choose safety over liberty, because of a manufactured Chinese threat. These waves, and new variation, will keep on coming our way. As a result, human Immune system weakens, and get dependent on more vaccine dosages. It is more easier for people to be infantilized, and have their freedom sacrificed, in the name of safety, that is provided by Governments.
When I step outside, I weep, I don't recognize the world anymore. People are indoctrinated in small dosages, and enslaved by fear & propaganda. Many have seem to forgotten what freedom is. It was like it was taken for granted.
Worse, Covid-19 Certificates are becoming a thing now. People who chooses not to take the vaccine, will be seen as biohazardous carrier of deadly diseases, and then be ostracised. Their freedom, their rights, will vanish, and people will be sent to Corona Camps. Covid-19 passport, is somewhat similar to the IBM punch card, used by the Nazis.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ibm-nazis-ww2
But there is hope.... Already now there are freedom fighters in London & Zurich, in the high thousands. People who dare to stand up to what is right, and not is easy. I just wish more people had the courage to stand up for their rights.
Sadly, people who stands against this, will be chastised, labelled, laughed at, & excluded. You have to have the same opinion as the rest of the collective, otherwise you are full of sin, you will be hung.
So in a way, Governments overshadows God, people become dependent on Government, and people follow the rules & guidelines of the Government. So if you don't follow completely, you will be crossed There is no room for faith anymore. Typically ''some'' Governments hates when God is the true ruler.
Instead of vaccine, I encourage to find common sense, find faith in whatever religion you may believe in. Even if you sin in religion, you can find forgiveness through God.
Lol Krand0r, f@#! off god, good or no, vaccine is helping a lot to make less peoples sick and die.
you may believe in god np ae but god is just a word.
That's pretty moronic of you to say Nina. You obviously missed the entire point of my post.
While I don't personally believe in ANY God at this time, it is better to find faith in a religion, than have faith in large Governments. Large Governments, their only goal is to take away people's liberty, so that they can follow them. Like mindless slaves &/ sheep if you will.
Keep juicing yourself up bro, it won't save you, it will only make it worse.
Even people who believe in God are also taking vaccines. :P
Yes Adnanda, I didn't say people who believe in God avoids it :)
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That's pretty moronic of you to say Nina. You obviously missed the entire point of my post.
While I don't personally believe in ANY God at this time, it is better to find faith in a religion, than have faith in large Governments. Large Governments, their only goal is to take away people's liberty, so that they can follow them. Like mindless slaves &/ sheep if you will.
Keep juicing yourself up bro, it won't save you, it will only make it worse.
Government and god sucks everyone knows that lol , but a fact is that vaccine is helping a lot, try to separate the things little fart, iam sure u can do it.
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That's pretty moronic of you to say Nina. You obviously missed the entire point of my post.
While I don't personally believe in ANY God at this time, it is better to find faith in a religion, than have faith in large Governments. Large Governments, their only goal is to take away people's liberty, so that they can follow them. Like mindless slaves &/ sheep if you will.
Keep juicing yourself up bro, it won't save you, it will only make it worse.
Government and god sucks everyone knows that lol , but a fact is that vaccine is helping a lot, try to separate the things little fart, iam sure u can do it.
You are lagging behind. You aren't really bright, are you?
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you always come with the same shit argument that goverment wanna control you and stuff...stop being stupid, learn to take advantage of the things even when peoples wanna hurt you, vaccine is the way to get out this shit pandemic so take this f@#!ing shit and stfu lol.
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you always come with the same shit argument that goverment wanna control you and stuff...stop being stupid, learn to take advantage of the things even when peoples wanna hurt you, vaccine is the way to get out this shit pandemic so take this f@#!ing shit and stfu lol.
You always come with the same ''shit arguments''? Perhaps visit your own, and see how intellectual constructive you have been.
Sob Stories alone cannot be a reasoning factor to abolish liberty.
learn to take advantage of the things even when peoples wanna hurt you
Is this your way of saying that governments wants to hurt us? Not a reason enough to take the vaccine, I say.
Ultimately, the vaccine is not the way to go. It only promotes fascism, and divide in class. So If you wanna keep on shooting yourself with placebo shots, be my guest. Fear has a hold of you, it overwrites reason, a character of weakness I think.
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hauhauhuah ok!!!!!!!!!!!
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The simplest way to deal with the Nazi is to ignore them.
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The simplest way to deal with the Nazi is to ignore them.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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After my scheme Flat Earth Apocalypse (http://worms2d.info/Flat_Earth_Apocalypse) which was based on Flat Earth Society, now I think I need to create a scheme about Vaccines based on negationists too, the anti-science people (they use smartphones to propagate fake news and are against vaccines, difficult to believe this world we live...). Maybe I'd use Longbow and Healthcrates in the scheme.
Vaccines are the most powerful tool medicine has ever developed lol. This powerful tool exists and works since the end of XVIII century and beginning of XIX century, it is sad that we still need to explain this to people.
Here in Brazil we have a religious leader called Valdemiro Santiago that is always with a cowboy hat that was in television selling beans that would magically cure people from COVID19 (https://twitter.com/brazilianreport/status/1258143644223180801). The price of each bean is 183,50 USD. People prefer to believe in their faith on these magical beans (paying) than the vaccines (free).
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Kradie, can you stop having opinions on medical topics? I don't think I've ever read more bullshit about my line of work. It's interesting that you chastise people about being afraid about a disease that is still filling up hospitals, but then you won't take the vaccine because you are afraid because of a few cases. I know Norway wasn't hit that hard, but you should learn how statistics work.
I'm glad to see other opinions in here about the vaccinations, though.
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I got the moderna shot early on in January since I work in health care. Works good, no government conspiracy, and more importantly, no covid!
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The simplest way to deal with the Nazi is to ignore them.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I was talking about you, you baffling hateful space whale.
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Kradie, can you stop having opinions on medical topics? I don't think I've ever read more bullshit about my line of work. It's interesting that you chastise people about being afraid about a disease that is still filling up hospitals, but then you won't take the vaccine because you are afraid because of a few cases. I know Norway wasn't hit that hard, but you should learn how statistics work.
I'm glad to see other opinions in here about the vaccinations, though.
I can understand that my opinion may seem scary to some, because it doesn't fit the mainstream narrative. But I think, it is healthy to have an open mind on whatever topic there may be. If a person is to be dislodged from a conversation, how can we as a community have an open discussion? Thought policing shouldn't be encouraged, it would only enforce an ideal world, where everyone are sheep. Think Orwell's 1984.
It is a medical discussion indeed, but Covid-19 affects everyone,, that includes everyone here on Worms and real life. Do you think I want to be right about what I say? Things that I say is based on observation in society, discussion, and independent research. I could be entirely wrong, and I certainly wish I am wrong. I don't want people to suffer and pass away. Do you think this gives me joy and superiority? All I am trying to do, is to share my opinion based on accumulated knowledge through other sources and experience. I think everyone has the right to choose what to believe in. You may think what I say is dangerous, have you thought what I think about what other say to me?
If you truly want me to stop partaking in covid related discussion, I will. It's not really a fun discussion anyway.
I just hope, we all can agree that this pandemic sucks.
Best of luck to everyone, I mean it.
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If you don't want to be right about the medical side of your argument, then I have good news for you!
You are way off the mark.
Policing is not a medical issue. Worldwide, there are some worrying things going on, for sure. The temporary restrictions due to covid are not one of them imo. They will go away once people get their vaccinations.
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“The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.” - Terry Pratchett
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a disease that is still filling up hospitals
german media says the same thing.
but if you look at german hospital statistics, you find out: they are not filling up with covid patients and there's way to go for them to be overloaded.
in fact, germany closed 20 hospitals last year.
how could that be possible during a pandemic?
i dont know really bout the situation in netherlands though.
to "validate" my opinion for D1: i work in health care.
and to answer ninos question:
i had the chance to get the vaccine (<- health care).
but there's no f@#!in way i'll take that voluntarily.
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to "validate" my opinion for D1: i work in health care.
To "validate" your opinion to me, you just need to be right 😀
I know Germany has less cases than the Netherlands, my countrymen aren't great with following guidelines.
We have about 1150 ICU beds here, 814 of them are occupied by people with covid currently (or rather, a lot of people here are rather shit at it).
25÷ of ICU beds occupied in germany atm, which is not nearly the percentage we have here, but it still can limit the amount of regular emergencies hospitals can handle.
I had the AstraZenica vaccine myself (first dose). Millions of people were vaccinated with it and the amount of serious complications is around a hundred-ish. In Norway, 5 people got thrombosis after 135,000 people had their vaccination. The odds here are slightly higher than the lifetime risk of being struck by lightning.
Daily covid death toll in germany is about 200, quite steady recently.
These numbers are all quite readily available to anyone, no need to work in the medical field for that.
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Idiots during the pandemic: "You can't make me wear a mask! You can't make me stay indoors! I'm not going to live my life in fear!"
Idiots after a vaccine is widely available: "You can't make me take the vaccine! You can't make me get the shot! I'm afraid!"
I mean, honestly. If you're going to be daft, at least be consistent.
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If you don't want to be right about the medical side of your argument, then I have good news for you!
You are way off the mark.
Policing is not a medical issue. Worldwide, there are some worrying things going on, for sure. The temporary restrictions due to covid are not one of them imo. They will go away once people get their vaccinations.
I respectfully disagree with you.
I believe policing & restriction is an issue, a human right one in fact. You are basically forced to take the vaccine in order to lift the restriction. Does who haven't, will be seen as carriers of biological hazards. Is this the reality we are heading to? Sorting society? Can you as an individual stand idle by and accept this?`
There will be plenty of new variations and waves of this virus. Therefore, plenty of new version of vaccines will be introduced. You will be told the death rate is going down, and that venues will gradually open, particularly to the vaccinated. Later on, you will be told that a new mutation and wave has come. So better apply yourself and follow the draconian guidelines. Because this won't end anytime soon.
As time moves on, covid pass will branch out to other digital mediums; bank, paypal, visa, passport, and so on. It would be basically a digital/biological passport. Why not get a chip in your neck then? Does this sound far fetched? Crazy? Misinformation? Conspiracy Theory? People laughed at me when I talked about covid passports a year ago. Who is laughing now? Are you willing to sacrifice your bodily sovereignty in the name of false sense of security?
But I am not without sympathy though. I can understand why ordinary people conform, they might think that there's no other choice. They need their jobs, their income, status, a purpose. Otherwise, they would be ostracized. It is quite scary to be left out, truly. These people who conform, they are in reality victims of greed and corruption.
Plenty are in isolation, as result; mental instability comes to play. People get lonely, turn to alcohol, families can turn dysfunctional, and so on. This pandemic, is pretty evil and inhumane if you ask me.
Let's face it, this pandemic is not meant to end anytime soon. It is quite profiting in the pharmaceutical department. Think war profiteering, it is basically like that. The endless wars, the war on terror, I think this could eventually end, and be replaced with the current pandemic.
I am going to be bold and wager, that in the future where most have been vaccinated, people will have to pay for vaccines in order rank themselves up. Think China's Social Credit System. Is this what we want? A neo-feudalism if you will.
RESIST!
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Of course noone wanted to pass for this pandemic shit, but if not with vaccines, what would be the other way to loses less lifes by the time?
thats the point too.
and porra phillie take it aeeeeeeeee
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As time moves on, covid pass will branch out to other digital mediums; bank, paypal, visa, passport, and so on. It would be basically a digital/biological passport. Why not get a chip in your neck then? Does this sound far fetched? Crazy?
Yes.
You are misinformed on the medical aspects of this pandemic.
I can respect your disagreement on the way this pandemic is currently handled. I think you're flying off the cuff on your future prediction, but I won't pretend I can look into the future myself.
I cannot respect your opinion on vaccines because it is woefully misinformed and dangerous. This type of misinformation is the reason polio is still not eradicated and there are still plenty of people suffering as a result of childhood infection well into their adult life because of it. Look up what post polio syndrome is for more information.
Tbh, the fact that they are talking about vaccination passport for events is because of this type of misinformation leading to people not getting vaccinated.
This misinformation therefore leads to a longer effect of the pandemic and therefore longer lockdowns, longer restrictions etcetera. In other words, by spreading misinformation, you are the cause of your own fears coming true.
Vaccinations work. Time and time again, they prove themselves to work. What the hell do people need to know before they start believing basic facts?
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Can we instate a forum feature where every one of Kradie's posts ends with a poll that asks "Does this sound farfetched? Crazy?" - forum-goers can vote on whether or not this particular post is suitably Kradieesque, and where on the triangle graph of "racist" / "fascist" / "conspiracy theorist" that particular post should shit.
Perhaps this data could be collected and every twelve months we can get The Annual Kradie Report - an annual cataloguing of his more ridiculous claims, and where on average Kradie's Naziesque ramblings have put him on the triangle over the last year.
I mean shit, if this forum isn't going to outright ban Nazis, if TUS is going to allow bullshit like this to continue, they can at least let us having some fun mocking them.
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This post doesn't aim to infringe safety rules applying during the pandemic situation. Take it with a huge grain of salt.
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As time moves on, covid pass will branch out to other digital mediums; bank, paypal, visa, passport, and so on. It would be basically a digital/biological passport. Why not get a chip in your neck then? Does this sound far fetched? Crazy?
Yes.
You are misinformed on the medical aspects of this pandemic.
I can respect your disagreement on the way this pandemic is currently handled. I think you're flying off the cuff on your future prediction, but I won't pretend I can look into the future myself.
I cannot respect your opinion on vaccines because it is woefully misinformed and dangerous. This type of misinformation is the reason polio is still not eradicated and there are still plenty of people suffering as a result of childhood infection well into their adult life because of it. Look up what post polio syndrome is for more information.
Tbh, the fact that they are talking about vaccination passport for events is because of this type of misinformation leading to people not getting vaccinated.
This misinformation therefore leads to a longer effect of the pandemic and therefore longer lockdowns, longer restrictions etcetera. In other words, by spreading misinformation, you are the cause of your own fears coming true.
Vaccinations work. Time and time again, they prove themselves to work. What the hell do people need to know before they start believing basic facts?
None of the prediction I present here are far fetched. I predicted a year ago passports would become a thing. Now Governments around the globe, are discussing what more these passport can do.
In my opinion, disinformation, is a political weapon, meant to disarm and rob people of their beliefs, values, and other claims, in favor of a preferred and controlled narrative.
You continuously claim that what I claim is dangerous and wrong. Have you ever stopped to think about what you are sharing is basically the same? And that YOU are the catalyst of freedom fighters?
You do realize, that after approximately 70 year of influenza research, there has yet not been an effective vaccine against it. Unfortunately and yet understandably, this can be a reason why it is difficult to make an effective vaccine against Covid-19. Influenza virus has existed for millions of years.
Polio may not be completely gone, but the same goes to Dengue-Virus, HIV, and Ebola. How on earth, can we produce a working vaccine against Covid-19 so fast? Plenty of variation and mutation are to come, and people will keep on getting their new fix. It is basically corona profiteering. Big Pharma, have already devoured billions of dollars on FIRST DOSE ALONE. Who are the real winners here? None, it is an effective business strategy, not worth giving up.
Take a look here, if YOU can.
https://odysee.com/@dharmabear:2/Cov-19-Immunity-in-19-Minutes-Spacebusters:2
Of course noone wanted to pass for this pandemic shit, but if not with vaccines, what would be the other way to loses less lifes by the time?
thats the point too.
If we don't take the vaccine against Covid-19, what else is there to do? The answer here won't be so easy to digest, but I will try to elaborate a subjective answer.
One of the biggest obstacles of today are the MSM (Mainstream Media). Typically, MSM are more left leaning focused, and will label anyone that disagrees with them as far right extremists, & Nazis. Million of people in London marched for humanity's freedom on April 24th. Some, perhaps all? Were labeled as Extremists & Nazis by the MSM, heck, they barely covered it, just a blimp. That says quite a lot how divisive the media can be? Is it not allowed to have independent thoughts and beliefs? Should people be scolded and labeled if they don't think and do alike as other people? Why would anyone in their right mind favor medical tyranny over freedom?
MSM's role during this pandemic, have been to distill fear in millions of people, quite effectively too. But is it their will? Is there a profit? Don't know, but it is immoral and evil. They interview health experts, Government official, show statistic and graphs, just to keep you locked in fear as a law abiding citizen. They don't want you to know about ivermectin, which is also effective against Covid-19. They don't tell you because they wish for you to remain infantile and reliant on their narrative.
But what is the Covid-19 narrative? One of these things has to do with the carbon footprint that human leave behind. The pandemic, conveniently (imo), have stopped the normal flow of air travel, and vehicle traffic. You may have noticed depending on where you live, that cities are slowly making it impossible to operate motorized vehicles. This is done so that people must rely on, their feet, bicycles and electric scooters. Ergo, in a decade or so, cars, and aerial commercial travel may as well be a thing of the past. Unfortunately, this may not apply for aristocrats. They will still be their good old complacent greedy self, preach, shame, and travel with jets and limousine. While the rest of us live by their strict rules and guidelines, such as: curfews, social distancing, sanitizing, and use of face masks.
The face mask is becoming a cultural norm like a hijab or burka, where the mask becomes less about protection, but not just a symbol suppression & compliance, but also a part of the cultural fashion.
As a species, we are being institutionalized, but not just as a prison inmates & slaves, but as a horde of cattle & sheep waiting for new instructions, and fix of new labels and dosage of placebo vaccine. It is easier to choose what is convenient, when consensus as a collective are spoon fed fear and propaganda. This can be a reason why that some people choose to get themselves vaccinated, they may have faith in it, but foremost; to be a obsequious citizen, in a ongoing segregated society.
These vaccine against Covid-19 and its various future adaption, will further segregate humanity. You may have already heard e.g that: neighbors, random citizen, and surveillance technology and such, will alert a gestapo like force to arrest anyone who disobey and resist the established order. These practices are only going to intensify as more people submit to the authoritarian and panopticon system. It is basically like a prison system, if you fall out of line, you will be sent to the hole. The rest of the people are aware of what happens, but does nothing, quite like Auschwitz. This is why being institutionalized is so dangerous. Eventually, the means justify the ends, because fear trumps all reasons if the right narrative is applied.
So what is the right answer? What is the clear solution? In my honest opinion. Live life as you would normally do. People die, life's a bitch, and you keep on living. Even if you take the vaccine, you will have to wear masks, follow the dystopian rules in some places, heck, maybe even two masks? Look, I know it is scary, even a child is afraid to check under their bed, or closet in fear that there may be a monster lurking there. In the end, they find the courage to look, and there is no monsters.....
Also, Squirminator2k keeps offending.
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You keep posting racist, fascist, conspiracy-theory bullshit. So long as you keep doing that, I'm going to keep calling it like I see it.
You have the right to say that, but I strongly disagree. I think personally, you are overreacting.
If you can do the courtesy to help me, walk me through what exactly in my posts are racist, fascist, and so on, then that could be useful. If you choose not to, then that's okay. I just don't see much point to make an account, just to follow someone around on a forum to make snide remarks.
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Take a look here, if YOU can.
https://odysee.com/@dharmabear:2/Cov-19-Immunity-in-19-Minutes-Spacebusters:2
I really hope you understood that this is a joke video, right? Or are you that dumb to take this shit serious? Reading all the absurds you wrote on your conspiracy thesis, I really hope you are not that dumb and all we are reading here is a big joke only.
I made a gif of a part of this video. I laughed many times watching it.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/dsUAAytQ9BaQYb7ss2/giphy.gif)
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Take a look here, if YOU can.
https://odysee.com/@dharmabear:2/Cov-19-Immunity-in-19-Minutes-Spacebusters:2
I really hope you understood that this is a joke video, right? Or are you that dumb to take this shit serious? Reading all the absurds you wrote on your conspiracy thesis, I really hope you are not that dumb and all we are reading here is a big joke only.
I made a gif of a part of this video. I laughed many times watching it.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/dsUAAytQ9BaQYb7ss2/giphy.gif)
So this is all but a joke to you huh? Alright then. Unfortunately it isn't. Sorry to disappoint you. If it makes you feel better, label me, put me in your box.
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Peoples has the right to say and think whatever they want and sometimes it is funny to see how they go ahead and dont care to show up how dumb and retard, I need to take off the hat.
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Kradie i heard that bleach is dangerous for your health but imo it’s a conspiracy, let’s have a glass of it. It’s known that if you drink it you become immune to any disease
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I mean shit, if this forum isn't going to outright ban Nazis, if TUS is going to allow bullshit like this to continue, they can at least let us having some fun mocking them.
1. Censorship is always bad, no matter who is censored.
2. I personally don't see Kradie's posts as having anything to do with nazis. He has got a sceptical nature, and I don't see anything wrong with him voicing his opinion.
3. Alright, let's say you believe governments do not abuse control, and vaccines are safe too. I fairly agree, and I'm taking my own Pfizer vaccine in June. Why would you be intolerant of other opinions though? There is absolutely no reason to cut off Kradie and claim that his opinion is dangerous, unless you are afraid to have your own views challenged and defended. Regardless of how obvious the truth appears to be to us, we should always be open to the change.
a) If you say "because there might be idiots who will believe him", then explain in civil language why Kradie is mistaken, rather than looking down on him. As for now he seems to be more informed about what he believes in than the ones confronting him, and he is (surprise surprise) more likely to convince somebody than you are with your mockery.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
~ Mahatma Gandhi
Tbh, the fact that they are talking about vaccination passport for events is because of this type of misinformation leading to people not getting vaccinated.
Are we actually going to pretend there haven't been vaccines in the last 10 years that have seriously crippled some countries? Really?
https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2021/how-philippines-lost-faith-in-vaccines/index.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-narcolepsy-fiasco-spurs-covid-vaccine.html
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a) If you say "because there might be idiots who will believe him", then explain in civil language why Kradie is mistaken, rather than looking down on him.
ZorroX, you don't seem to fully understand the problem with him.
He was invited last year, by ShyGuy, to take part in a live debate which would be broadcast on YouTube with a certified and qualified doctor to discuss Covid19 and he refused, which is fine in itself, but the way he refused was extremely immature and insultive. Then the entire situation became increasingly toxic, he started acting very sexist and toxic towards a certain female, and claimed it was because he was "backed into a corner" which is absolute BS, he started a debate and couldn't finish it like a mature adult. It was at that moment I decided to start ignoring him and never directly reply to anything he does again, and only read anything he says now when someone else quotes him because I have him ignored.
If you keep talking and debating with him eventually he is going to start insulting you and acting extremely toxic. A while back I spent a great deal of time discussing the difference between using parachute and not using parachute when roping. He started off by trying to label his opinion as a fact and comparing people who use parachute to needing crutches to rope. Then when confronted about this he started swearing and attacking my personality because he quickly ran out of any sort of credible information regarding the subject.
I don't think people have a problem as much with his opinion as they do the WAY he talks to people, tries to degrade people. If he could share his opinion without acting the way he does, it would be a much more pleasant conversation.
And quite frankly I believe anyone intelligent enough should not pay attention to him.
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1. Censorship is always bad, no matter who is censored.
You should really read about the Paradox of Tolerance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance). Censorship sometimes can be necessary and important, specially if we are talking about fascism.
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2. I personally don't see Kradie's posts as having anything to do with nazis. He has got a sceptical nature, and I don't see anything wrong with him voicing his opinion.
Well, his profile picture in Discord was Donald Trump's face for a long time (specially during the elections of the USA). People already tried to discuss with him many times, and that's what he wants, he will ignore all arguments against him saying that the source is not trustworthy because it is "mainstream media". So he will not believe in something that works and documents history for centuries, he will only believe in sources that are obviously fake news, like that video I made a gif.
People may say that Donald Trump is not fascist, but then I would suggest them to read and study about fascism (it can happen at any time, anywhere, any century). I already suggested Kradie to do that, because if he is still not aware he is spreading fascist ideas, he really should read about the fascism definitions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism) and maybe he will notice what is happening in the world right now is very similar to what happened since nineteen-twenties. I also suggested Kradie to watch the movie The Wave (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(1981_film)) that received a more recent version of it (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(2008_film)) that I still didn't watch but probably is very similar.
The ascension of fascism that is happening in XXI century (also called Neofascism) is something we should really worry. Many extreme right wing leaders are being elected via propaganda (fake news and memes without source spread via whatsapp, telegram, social networks). The president of my country (Bolsonaro) is worse than Trump and he has fascist and undemocratic ideas too. I have friends who voted on a fascist, people who stutied with me, had a similar education... It is really sad to see that a very high percentage of people are in favour of our president after all the COVID19 crisis our country is right now (422.000 deaths) and all the stuff that happened with Pantanal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantanal) and the Amazon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_rainforest), all the stuff he is trying to do and the stuff he said, complimenting torturers and dictators from the Operation Condor or the latin america dictatorships (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor) that happened during the Cold War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War).
It is good to remind the Trump responsability on the Capitol's invasion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol). He really tried to be a dictator and Bolsonaro keeps trying to be dictator too.
People may say the word "Fascism" is being banalized and I agree that sometimes people use it way too much even on situations that are nor exactly fascism, like people did during Brazil's military dictatorship (1964-1985) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship_in_Brazil), saying that the dictatorship was a fascist regime, and now
historians say it wasn't. This time I really think if we are not experiencing neofascism, we are experiencing something very close to fascism. Fascism has happened in Brazil before, it was called: Brazilian Integralism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Integralism) or Brazilian Integralist Action (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Integralist_Action) and the movement was revived by some people one or two years ago. Also, recently in Brazil the culture minister quoted Joseph Goebbels (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/17/americas/brazil-culture-minister-goebbels-intl-scli/index.html) (and was fired after the polemic).
3. There is absolutely no reason to cut off Kradie and claim that his opinion is dangerous, unless you are afraid to have your own views challenged and defended.
Well, There is already a discussion about freedom of speech: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tus-discussion/off-topic-forum-33060/ (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/tus-discussion/off-topic-forum-33060/)
Ah, and this is not the first time people are talking about vaccines here: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/covid-19-vaccine-33023/ (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/covid-19-vaccine-33023/)
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I found the discord incident quite uncomfortable at times due to the relentless bombardment from a select people. Indeed I tried to share and address my concern in a calm and civilized manner, but it was often met with immaturity, and toxic tribal thinking & attacks, often in a repetitive pattern. This inevitable lead to counter attacks on my side, which I am not very proud of to be honest. This sort of degradation is only recognizable in kindergarten.
The most ironic part of this incident is, I was called a trash loser repeatedly by a woman, who I a eventually referred to as a beach. Because of this, I was labeled as a sexist. How messed up is that? Only an SJW would believe this garbage.
It is True, I like Trump, but doesn't make me, and all of the 75 million voters, and Trump supporters around the globe a nazi, fascist, and whatever more labels you have for us. Labels are political tool, to disenfranchise people, and their right to have & voice their opinion. The label wars, only promotes fear, and help exclude people from society. This is what FoxHound & TheKomodo are doing now. They feel that they are in control, because they believe I am in their box of toxic labels. This makes them feel superior, typically to avoid dialogue, and also eligible to carry out their heinous interpretation of meta political justice, while being the chastising arbiter of evil.
People who think Trump is a fascist are simply brainwashed by MSM, which I said earlier, leans heavily on the left.
Most historian leans left, so I recommend everyone to look up Giovanni Gentile, & Antonio Gramsci.
Also, please watch this video:
Be warned, SJWs, and the left will tell you this is dangerous.
https://www.prageru.com/video/is-fascism-right-or-left/
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-isnt-communism-as-hated-as-nazism/
Here is a Media Meltdown of Trump's 2016 victory
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Here's my man AwakenwithJP. He's a comedian, but sadly his videos are true :D
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The thing with the LEFT, is that they victimize people, make people weak, keep them there, and profit of off their misery with their politics. This is why America is so divided. If you ask me, the true racist are people on the left. After all, the left created the KKK.
And now we have this corona profiteering.... Sigh....
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#stopKradieabuse pliz :(:-X
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Any puto can shit from the mouth but the fact is that the vaccines are saving many lifes and even the putos cant go against this fact.
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Kradie I'm muting you for a week. I've warned and I've posted about controversial topics, yet you are looking for any excuse to post related topics. Next time I'll go for a month.
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Kradie I'm muting you for a week. I've warned and I've posted about controversial topics, yet you are looking for any excuse to post related topics. Next time I'll go for a month.
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It was amusing to debate him at first, but he just resorts to writing everything off as a SJW at work, or some farcical conspiracy theory. It's clear he is on the spectrum, but that is no excuse for his assorted behaviors. Unfortunately all he will get out of this is vindication. No doubt he sees it as a nonsensical false equivocation that he is being censored for speaking "truth".