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Title: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
(http://www.team-coldfusion.de/board/download/file.php?id=1868)

Soon EAC 2013 sign-ups will start. Get ready and in shape!

And.. lets talk about it. :)

When does sign-ups start?
- mid May approx.

When does the event start?
- start of July approx.

When does it end?
- November or start of December.

Will it be like EAC 2012?
- the modus will be the same like last year.

With trophies and cash prizes?
- for sure!  8)

Any more questions? Or just something else? Leeeeeet's talk! 
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on April 17, 2013, 03:59 PM
I missed you guys.  I'm really looking into it. See ya soon!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on April 17, 2013, 05:20 PM
Cool!

How about streaming, would be cool addition.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on April 17, 2013, 06:08 PM
Quote from: Free on April 17, 2013, 05:20 PM
Cool!

How about streaming, would be cool addition.
+1 for that ;)

Im gonna beat the dust and get ready; dont think im off, im only a bit inactive waiting the best event in WORMS ever  8)

cu soon guys !!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: nino on April 17, 2013, 10:22 PM
Ae great news, but i think ill be out again :(
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 18, 2013, 07:35 PM
Quote from: Free on April 17, 2013, 05:20 PM
Cool!

How about streaming, would be cool addition.

stuff like that are very welcome  :)

@nino, thats sad. Is there really no chance for you to participant? I miss games against you  :-X
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Dub-c on April 18, 2013, 08:29 PM
Quote from: nino on April 17, 2013, 10:22 PM
Ae great news, but i think ill be out again :(

I will pay your entry this time amigo.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: nino on April 18, 2013, 08:47 PM
@SPW, ill see my big problem nowadays is time :(

@dub-c ty ae amigo.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 18, 2013, 09:33 PM
Quote from: nino on April 18, 2013, 08:47 PM
@SPW, ill see my big problem nowadays is time :(

Yea here the same. The older the less. Its all about priorities. I just give it to EAC otherwise I couldnt manage it either.

Quote from: nino on April 18, 2013, 08:47 PM
@dub-c ty ae amigo.

So nino, this "ty ae amigo" means you join?  ;D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on April 18, 2013, 10:17 PM
Great news, looking forward it :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 19, 2013, 12:17 AM
Great to hear that you will join, Crazy. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: nino on April 19, 2013, 12:51 AM
I promisse ill try SPW, but cant say for now,  i forgot to mention iam almost in another relationship with another gf and u know, at start you gotta spend a bit more time with her than the old one xD.

but i promisse in the name of my muscles that ill try to play.  ;D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crash on April 19, 2013, 10:27 AM
Can't wait hehe :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 19, 2013, 01:20 PM
Its a must to participant for a cupholder  :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Dulek on April 19, 2013, 05:51 PM
Biggest elite fest coming soon, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: WookA on April 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
i think its great that your doing this again! id participate but i think ill have trouble with times, last year i had trouble because of my timezone and cant do weekends, plus im working more...

just an idea... i know that there is a limit for the amount of people that play, but if you do the prediction game maybe all of ea can play it? i cant participate but i will definitely be paying attention to the winners
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on April 22, 2013, 02:39 PM
Quote from: WookA on April 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
just an idea... i know that there is a limit for the amount of people that play, but if you do the prediction game maybe all of ea can play it? i cant participate but i will definitely be paying attention to the winners

nice idea, I'll see what I can do :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 22, 2013, 03:19 PM
yep, great idea. Lets see how many followers we get :)

Think about it wooka, it would be sad if you dont join it. We know about the problem with time zone (check my graph from last year). We will give those parties some extra time if needed.

There is a solution for almost everything!  8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: WookA on April 23, 2013, 12:24 AM
maybe spw, my biggest problem really isnt the timezone... its having a schedule thats hard to predict, i work at a campground and my hours are never the same and can change fast, i really dont wanna suggest a time and then not make it, i would still be able to say i cant make it but it could still be frustrating
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Husk on April 23, 2013, 12:36 AM
ae wooka m8 I know a solution... quit job =D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: WookA on April 23, 2013, 01:29 AM
ok problem solved
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
Quote from: WookA on April 23, 2013, 12:24 AM
maybe spw, my biggest problem really isnt the timezone... its having a schedule thats hard to predict, i work at a campground and my hours are never the same and can change fast, i really dont wanna suggest a time and then not make it, i would still be able to say i cant make it but it could still be frustrating

In that case, it really dont makes any sense to participant. Its sad but best. Maybe next year.  :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: seBa on April 26, 2013, 03:53 AM
What a great news ! Im so busy with my work and university :/ , I'll try to make time to play , I'd like to play whis champ. so much !

grettings for you all !
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on April 26, 2013, 07:15 PM
Quote from: WookA on April 23, 2013, 12:24 AM
maybe spw, my biggest problem really isnt the timezone... its having a schedule thats hard to predict, i work at a campground and my hours are never the same and can change fast, i really dont wanna suggest a time and then not make it, i would still be able to say i cant make it but it could still be frustrating

what about to play in ur day/s off? ^^
try it Wooka, cmon !
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 28, 2013, 11:57 AM
lales mate, if someone is honest, dont try to turn around his mind. Its better someone dont join in that case. We cant need inactive participants at EAC. You know why :-)

Better x less joiners than an inactive Championship.

Sure its sad for every absence. But 2013 is not the last one. We will play EAC even 20 years later, if T17 keeps server  8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on April 28, 2013, 12:01 PM
Quote from: SPW on April 28, 2013, 11:57 AM
Sure its sad for every absence. But 2013 is not the last one. We will play EAC even 20 years later, if T17 keeps server  8)

Thumbs up!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on April 28, 2013, 12:15 PM
I really see it like a life project.  :) Its a very nice community with very good people in it. This really can survive some decades.  8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on April 28, 2013, 12:26 PM
We can have our private servers set up, or organize through IM, no need for WormNET or any server to play this game. ;)

I think I'll play this EAC. ;o
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on April 30, 2013, 06:20 PM
oh i see, u right SPW ^^
about play this event for long time more... wow 20 years more :D really nice !!
even our sons will play EAC in the future too, i hope it ;)

salut

Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: WookA on May 01, 2013, 03:53 PM
that would b pretty awesome lol, anyways like spw said, maybe next year for me
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on May 09, 2013, 11:48 AM
hi ppl ;)
how about 2013 avatar, etc? ^^ i have nothing :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on May 09, 2013, 03:09 PM
Yo lales, sign-ups starting soon. As soon as you in, you'll get the avatar. Its like the hand which let you in. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on May 09, 2013, 03:15 PM
nice then, cu soon :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on May 11, 2013, 10:11 PM
Good news!

Starting Sign-In's for joining EAC 2013 will be tmrw Sunday 12th May.

We are ready for this great event! :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Dub-c on May 12, 2013, 02:31 AM
I want to sign-up to the championship by accepting all conditions and rules. I will do my very best to make every game possible and I won't quit it before the end. I will be fair and will respect any other participants and also the moderators.

By Dub-c
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Husk on May 12, 2013, 03:12 AM
I want to sign-up to the championship by accepting all conditions and rules. I will do my very best to make every game possible and I won't quit it before the end. I will be fair and will respect any other participants and also the moderators.

By Husk
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on May 12, 2013, 07:15 AM
I want to sign-up to the championship by accepting all conditions and rules. I will do my very best to make every game possible and I won't quit it before the end. I will be fair and will respect any other participants and also the moderators.

By Free
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on May 12, 2013, 09:38 AM
There will be a seperate thread for sign ups ;)
but nice to see some activity that fast :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on May 12, 2013, 10:38 AM
I guess they know it. They just cant wait  :)

There wont be an avatar this time. Only a signature. As soon your personal sig is showing at the Signature-Thread, youre in for sure.

There will be some waves of joins. 2 guys are already in. Both moderators will play.  ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Devilage on May 12, 2013, 08:44 PM
Nice :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on May 13, 2013, 07:57 PM
Thank you for taking me in, nice to be on board.

I have all my hopes up high that I will perform better than last year, which will not be that hard, considering I finished 18th. Let's see what the gained experience and - hopefully - maturity might bring to the table!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on May 13, 2013, 09:36 PM
That sounds nice. :)

I really wish you the best mate.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on June 23, 2013, 11:18 AM
This is going to be so f@#!ing sweet...
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Hussar on June 23, 2013, 11:55 AM
jealous   :'(
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 25, 2013, 09:55 PM
The site will be launched tomorrow at 20:00 gmt..
This also means the pairings will be announced at this time and the first matchday can be predicted :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 26, 2013, 03:14 PM
Quote from: Random00 on June 25, 2013, 09:55 PM
The site will be launched tomorrow at 20:00 gmt..
This also means the pairings will be announced at this time and the first matchday can be predicted :)

looking forward!  :)

by the way, dont play games before Sunday 30th June 20 GMT. Its obvious, but now its even written.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: JohnMcClane on June 26, 2013, 07:57 PM
Quote from: Random00 on June 25, 2013, 09:55 PM
The site will be launched tomorrow at 20:00 gmt..
This also means the pairings will be announced at this time and the first matchday can be predicted :)

Cool!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 26, 2013, 08:06 PM
3, 2, 1...  ;D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Random00 vs Mablak first round!!!  :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 26, 2013, 08:17 PM
schedule is available here: http://www.2013.eac-wa.com/index.php?page=schedule
also, check your mailbox to get your password and login to start predicting ^^
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on June 26, 2013, 09:47 PM
Found a bug!

You can vote to yourself. :(
Also, cookies are not stored well, if you are logged in on the site with www. prefix, you are not logged in without it, and vica-versa.

EDIT: okay, I see that the rules have been changed.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on June 26, 2013, 10:54 PM
Quote from: SPW on June 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Random00 vs Mablak first round!!!  :D

Yeah, that's very... convenient :P I feel the need to let this out in the open, that schedule of Random looks super, super rigged!! He's facing Mablak in the first round, at the best possible time when Mablak is at his weakest point. There was a 6 percent chance of that happening. Furthermore, Random's drawn with the top-3 of last years final table in the next three rounds. All of them having been quite inactive in the past few months. You usually need many games under your belt before performing at toplevel. What I mean is, they will probably be playing on a more stable, high level later on in the tournament. Crash is a mess right now, everyone can see that. To finish it off, SPW is facing Mablak in the last round, the way I see it as a last chance to help out Seb if needed.

I'm not trying to kill the nice atmosphere and positive energy that's been around in this tournament, but I feel it is better to be open about this. In this way people will post their opinion and discuss it, rather then talking shit behind each others backs. Am I the only one who reacted at the schedule when seeing it for the first time? I could be analyzing it too much. Just seems like there's a dead fish here and it smells really bad. Am I rude and/or disrespectful towards you guys, Random, SPW and Ray, for even thinking in this direction? It's not a lack of trust, it's more about using common sense and logic. Let's say the schedule was not fixed, you must have seen it coming that questions would be raised when seeing the schedule yourself for the first time. I guess telling about how the schedule was drawn could clear things up. Tiger used to post pictures of how he made the pairs, with paper, a hat and the help of his mother ::)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on June 26, 2013, 11:17 PM
The questions that u should ask yourself is wether u think Random really wants to win a championship by fixing the schedule, or by playing fair and square?

Btw, admins, I can't login (incorrect password)
anyone?
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: franz on June 26, 2013, 11:23 PM
Quote from: Ray on June 26, 2013, 09:47 PM
Found a bug!

You can vote to yourself. :(

Intended I think, see my 2012 comment: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/ea-championship-2012/eac-2012-smalltalk-14978/msg139675/#msg139675
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 26, 2013, 11:32 PM
I was at ventrilo with SPW, when I pressed the button to do the pairings and when I first looked at it I was sure shocked at my first 4 matches.
I find it a bit offensive that you think that I could cheat about it, though. I would never ever do this. If it helps I can post the script that generated the pairings online.
Its the exact same algorithm that I also used in eac 2011 and 2012 and it basically shuffles the player IDs with this function: php.net/shuffle (http://php.net/shuffle).


If a majority of players thinks that this schedule is rigged, I am willing to reschedule everything.

But there's still one thing I don't get. Why should I manipulate the scheduling after putting that much effort in this event?!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 26, 2013, 11:35 PM
Quote from: Almog on June 26, 2013, 11:17 PM
Btw, admins, I can't login (incorrect password)
anyone?

So far the first one with this problem I think.
Probably it's just a typo, so be sure to check small/capital letters in the password (it matters!) or simply copy/paste it. If it still doesnt work I can give you some temporary password for your first login, but we should both be online then. PMs work best if you want to solve something as quick as possible :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Mablak on June 27, 2013, 12:23 AM
I don't know how much I care myself, but ea needs to settle this right now before games get played. The way they did it in CWT was actually filming the pairings, which is the fairest way to do it. I would probably be in favor of that if other people are.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 27, 2013, 12:54 AM
Problem with manual drawing is, that our tournament structure is quite different. If you just randomly do pairings, you will most likely get (a lot) more matchdays than 17 (for 18 players).
To always ensure the least possible amount of matchdays I used the algorithm presented here: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www-i1.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~algorithmus/algo36.php&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www-i1.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~algorithmus/algo36.php (I hope Google translate isnt too bad on this one, the page is usually in german).
Every player is basically just a number in this algorithm, and the schedule is always exactly the same, e.g. Player 1 is always facing Player 3 on the first matchday. Since we dont wanna have the same scheduling every year, I simply give every player a random number. This year chuvash is Player 1 and Ray is Player 3, last year Devilage was Player 1 and JohnMcClane was Player 3.
This algorithm isn't 100% random (in fact there are only n! different schedules, but 18! = 640237370572800 is a big enough number I guess), but it's good enough for our purposes.

So, the only thing that could be done manually would be drawing of a number for a player. So if you draw 1 for Almog and 3 for Crazy, this would automatically mean its Almog vs. Crazy on this matchday.
I spent some time on getting a good algorithm for a round robin tourney, and its not tirival to get one with the least amount of matchdays. So, if anyone knows one that you can present on air with live drawing, then shoot. But I don't believe there is one. Plus drawing every game seperately would mean for eac 2013 that you have to draw 306 names, because there are 153 matches....

I will talk to SPW about this asap and more opinions are always welcome. Delaying the start of the tournament by one week won't kill anyone I guess ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: franz on June 27, 2013, 04:19 AM
really this discussion?  just play on, it's only a schedule.  may the best win.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on June 27, 2013, 10:54 AM
Again, I don't think anyone here is looking for glory he wouldn't earn. Besides, people had plenty of time preparing (getting back into shape) for this tournament, as it was announced ~2 months ago (?).

I also don't think this round (Random vs Mablak) will determine the end-winner of the tournament. There are plenty of skilled players this year and many surprises are coming up.

Lets start this Sunday. GL and HF everyone.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on June 27, 2013, 10:56 AM
It's pretty bad that you would think the schedule is fixed Crazy. :( It's a script that randomly generates the pairings, nothing more, nothing less. Adding a feature that would create fixed matchdays or manually fixing pairings would be so much effort it would actually take days. I can't believe that you would even consider that someone like Random, who's been always known of his outstanding sportsmanship and respect towards everyone, would cheat in such a way. Besides, I don't think that between the 18 players that are in this championship, any schedule would be favourable for anyone.

I was trying to work out an algorithm myself too by the way, but it failed for some sort of weird programming reason that I still don't recall having found.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 27, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nothing is rigged with that schedule. Like Random said, I was in ventrilo with him and we both was shocked when check first rounds. But it was 100% not rigged! Random and I would never do such a bad thing. Really never!

And like Almog said, this event was announced about 2 or 3 month before it starts. Its only Mablaks or Crash or anyone else problem if they not in shape when it starts.

I will talk with random about it but Im not on a yes to reschedule it. System generated it and we even did everyone knows about the launching time of the page. So everyone could just check page after 20 gmt to see the final schedule.

Sure I would prefer Mablak vs Random00 at last round. But the system didnt.

Quote from: Crazy on June 26, 2013, 10:54 PM
Quote from: SPW on June 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Random00 vs Mablak first round!!!  :D
To finish it off, SPW is facing Mablak in the last round, the way I see it as a last chance to help out Seb if needed.

You really believe I would even think about that? Until now, almost 24 hours later, I didnt even realise that I face Mablak at last round!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: darKz on June 27, 2013, 04:14 PM
Bård were you sober when you posted that? Just wondering. :D

Also hi, looking forward to the replays of some great matches.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Devilage on June 27, 2013, 06:21 PM
hey darkz is this you mate?

Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: darKz on June 27, 2013, 08:13 PM
Damn I was hoping nobody finds that.. :(

On a more serious note, let's keep this thread about the upcoming EAC. You can PM me about my crossdressing fetish. ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: HHC on June 27, 2013, 08:55 PM
My debute against crazy  ;D nice!


How does it work with vacations btw? I see that I have matches planned for those weeks, are they postponed or played in advance?

Gl hf all :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on June 27, 2013, 09:19 PM
Quote from: HHC on June 27, 2013, 08:55 PM
How does it work with vacations btw? I see that I have matches planned for those weeks, are they postponed or played in advance?

all matches during vacations will be dealt with seperately by SPW and me.
The most common way is that we will send you and your opponent a PM, where we suggest how to handle it. Usually the games just get postponed by 1 week or 2, so just wait and see, I guess :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 27, 2013, 09:53 PM
This is the plan of all known and / or possible absences. Before every matchday starts, we give an information about all matches which getting a new deadline cause of absences. Yellow blocks: Not sure, more coming up as soon as they know. Orange: There are some smaller chances to get it done in the deadline. Otherwise they will get some more time, probably just the deadline from the upcoming matchday. Red: Very sure those matches will have deadline from the upcoming matchday.

(http://www.team-coldfusion.de/board/download/file.php?id=1898)

Sorry for the crap graph. Click on it for a better view.

If something change, please tell it to me and Random00 as soon as possible.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on June 28, 2013, 08:58 AM
Why am I in an orange block? I already settled the date with chuvash. ???
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 28, 2013, 03:39 PM
Quote from: Ray on June 28, 2013, 08:58 AM
Why am I in an orange block? I already settled the date with chuvash. ???

cause of your reply on my pm. It wasnt sure then (hospital) and until now you didnt say anything about that task. So if you can play next two weeks I will remove that orange block.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on June 29, 2013, 11:26 AM
Quote from: SPW on June 28, 2013, 03:39 PM
Quote from: Ray on June 28, 2013, 08:58 AM
Why am I in an orange block? I already settled the date with chuvash. ???

cause of your reply on my pm. It wasnt sure then (hospital) and until now you didnt say anything about that task. So if you can play next two weeks I will remove that orange block.
Oh damn, I forgot to keep you informed about that. That's not going to happen, I'll be fully available.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on June 29, 2013, 08:33 PM
okay, removed.  ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 06, 2013, 11:26 AM
Such disappointing defeat in the first round. :( After a strong start in the first game and some shaky moves by chuvash, I was just not able to contain him well enough to turn the game in my favor, shame. I really feel like this could have gone either way, although I do believe his skills and tactical knowledge are superior to mine.

Nice games though, and crystal clear consequences: I need to practice. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on July 06, 2013, 06:20 PM
Did you finish all of the games Ray? What was the score? :P I need a correct prediction now, lol. Plenty of games left though, I felt dissapointed after the first round also, but you can't let it affect you in your next match. Heads up :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 06, 2013, 07:18 PM
3 - 1 to chuvash, that was the final score. We also had a draw in the first round.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 06, 2013, 07:33 PM
chuvash, go to eac page and report it. There is no ghost doing it  :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on July 07, 2013, 08:39 PM
ugh I missed prediction :(
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on July 07, 2013, 08:44 PM
Maybe you can still send it on PM to Random like he suggested and he can add it Almog. The site has been running a bit slow today, and no games have been played yet anyway. You should give him a hug for the extrawork tho (A)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 07, 2013, 08:45 PM
Quote from: Almog on July 07, 2013, 08:39 PM
ugh I missed prediction :(

Send your predictions to Random00 with a pm, he will do it manually. Do it as soon as possible. After first match is played the time if off.

Site making problems today so you get another chance ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on July 07, 2013, 08:49 PM
Do it quickly, me and franz are playing now, lol
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 08, 2013, 02:22 PM
Yea, scored it. 8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 08, 2013, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Ray on July 08, 2013, 02:22 PM
Yea, scored it. 8)

so me, high five  8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crash on July 08, 2013, 10:04 PM
not great games against random ;/ but i upload the first game, prolly my game would be if not my fkn internet ;/ im uploadin cus by eac rules there cant be lag replays
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on July 09, 2013, 03:32 PM
Quote from: SPW on July 08, 2013, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Ray on July 08, 2013, 02:22 PM
Yea, scored it. 8)

so me, high five  8)

So did I actually, but I changed it in the last minute before the deadline to 3-2 for me. I thought "Crazy, you're telling yourself you've lost already before the games started". Have some belief in yourself and change the vote :D Idiot me
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 09, 2013, 03:34 PM
Well, I do it every matchday. If you dont believe in your strength, you lose.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 12, 2013, 07:47 PM
Damn Free, nice games! That last one, damn... should have done the block instead of killing, would have been a different game. :( Good games!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on July 12, 2013, 08:40 PM
Ggs! Yea should pay more attention to attacking possibilities ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 13, 2013, 09:11 AM
I was really slow mentally, I needed like twice the time for the same thinking than usually. By the time I realized that you could skunk, I was only hoping that you'd fail, as there were some possibilities for that. If I selected the Girder then, I would have failed to even block, which would have been even worse.

Well anyway, really enjoyed the games!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 14, 2013, 09:05 PM
Do your predicts in the first half of week. You can change your votes before the deadline. Site sometimes making problems so just go on the save way.

If you miss it, send a pm to Random00 asap. Your pm must send to Random00 before first game of that matchday ended.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on July 14, 2013, 11:08 PM
this kinda goes for anything related to the site, if something doesn't work, simply PM me on TUS ^,^
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 21, 2013, 11:52 AM
Hey Mablak, sorry I couldn't really play this morning, it's my mom's birthday and I also had rehearsal like right after our games, so in the last two games I wasn't even really looking, I was packing up my stuff. :-X

Didn't want to postpone it once more, felt like it wouldn't have been fair. Well, yea... sorry, I was hoping for some better games man. :(
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: HHC on July 22, 2013, 12:58 PM
SPW/Random

I have a free round in the matchups of 15th september. I suppose it's not possible to move it to one of the last 2 weeks of august when I'm away on holidays?

It's np if it's not possible, I'll just play both of the matches later then.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 22, 2013, 04:11 PM
Its easier to keep it like it is I believe. One week off isnt a problem anyway  :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: HHC on July 22, 2013, 04:14 PM
Yeah I suppose. Maybe I can even play with my laptop and wireless there, but I dont know about that. Delay isnt a prob  :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on July 22, 2013, 04:29 PM
you will get the deadline from the next round. No need to play on a fuzzy lappy  :)

by the way, nice random rush first 4 rounds. Squeezed all like they are beginners. Really amazing run.  ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on July 24, 2013, 09:20 PM
Free, I just realized that in last year's competition, I finished you 3-0. ??? Didn't quite live up to those expectations this year, apparently. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 06, 2013, 08:38 AM
Please, please, people, PLEASE!!! Play your games, I cannot wait for the prediction results god damnit! :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on August 06, 2013, 09:02 PM
This is such an WEIRD elite match between me and HHC.

Score was 2-2, both were noticeably nervous, check out the end game lol

I really aint proud of that round and that vnt kami draw would be in place haha.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on August 07, 2013, 09:01 PM
@ Random

I can't upload my games with Chick
It says "You must pick an opponent!" eventhough I selected, a few times

I'm attaching the files, hope u can report them for me (ended 3-2)

Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on August 07, 2013, 09:33 PM
thanks for pointing out that bug. It happened, because seBa got kicked but now it's fixed.
So you should be able to just report the games yourself :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: darKz on August 07, 2013, 09:49 PM
Can I request something? For an observer it would be really cool to have the match score hidden in some sort of spoiler tag (click on it = view score), otherwise watching the replays is not as thrilling when you know who comes out ahead beforehand. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on August 07, 2013, 10:32 PM
added this feature in a slight variation ^^.
you can simply switch between showing scores or not by clicking the "Score" table head link.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on August 08, 2013, 04:18 AM
you can still figure out that score by the amount of replays ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 08, 2013, 06:42 AM
But not the winner, besides, 7 replays can be 3-0 with 4 draws.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 09, 2013, 12:06 PM
Hey, by the way, what happens in the prediction game in case of a draw? Like me and daiNa are the leaders at the moment with the exact same score, with same amount of predicted score and predicted winner. What happens in this case at the end of the championship? What decides the winner?
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: HHC on August 09, 2013, 12:39 PM
That's me baby  ;)

Alphabetical order! huahua.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on August 09, 2013, 02:37 PM
ladies first, its easy.  :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 10, 2013, 01:40 PM
Quote from: SPW on August 09, 2013, 02:37 PM
ladies first, its easy.  :P
;D

How about free wins? How do those count? Should they count? Right now, it looks like they do, which doesn't seem very sensible to me, since if someone predicted 3-1 they get less points then someone predicting 3-0 and either way, it doesn't make any sense, because it was a free win. What do you think?
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on August 10, 2013, 03:19 PM
It said Free Wins do count as a 3-0 in the rules since the very start. Anyone could have taken that into account. ;)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
Hmm, alright, it just seemed weird to me. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: lales on August 20, 2013, 01:16 PM
hey fellas, i miss u in this WO 2013 edition, i will host an elite tourney 2on2, tomorrow 14:00 GMT
i would love to see ur faces there, ty
i hope to MOD a great tourney with that randombot pairings and get a lot of nice players

hugs ! cu there to HF !
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on August 20, 2013, 01:50 PM
Hey lales! Yea, I personally dislike WO, hence my inactivity in the contest. An Elite tournament hosted by you sounds good on the other hand! But, I won't be at home at that time. :(
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on August 20, 2013, 02:56 PM
And so me, working then as usual. At 17 gmt I play vs Random, so he cant too probably. And after that game he plays vs Chick.

Besides, when I was playing WO, then full. I dont join for few tourneys just to have my name in the history.

Anyway lales, wish you a nice tourney.  :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: chuvash on August 24, 2013, 05:05 PM
finally we did this game with Crash!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on September 04, 2013, 08:50 PM
Chuvash-Crazy 75-25% in schedule/pred.game? What a low blow!! Chuvash beats me 3 out of 4 times? OKay... Nothing against you chuvash, but those numbers are taken out of the sky. I feel offended by that prediction.. He has performed very well against good opponents so far, but it seems like people are blinded by those results. Chuvash performs above his own level when facing strong opponents, obviously. I'd say me and chuvash are quite equal skillwise, it's a 50/50 match-up. He has a little advantage because of the knowledge all the intermediate has given him. We both have a winning percent of 59% in TEL (actually mine is 0.03% higher then his), we are 7-5 heads up adv me. My prediction: game goes through a five-set game and it's a coin flip who wins.

Random, you are 15 points behind SPW, Dulek & co, here is your chance to catch up with them. Take a "huge risk" and predict me as winner. There is big value in chosing me instead of chuvash anyways. That's my point about this, it's not my egoism, it's just plain wrong percentage and it gives an incorrect image of the probability. Even worse is Almog vs lales, which says 100% for Almog. Yeaaaaaaa right. My credibility is low tho as I've been the worst predicter this year :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on September 07, 2013, 09:36 AM
Sometimes I am a bit confused about your posts, crazy. But well, you wanna hear the truth, here is it. Chuvash is the better player, you only have some few advantages against him. Guess its BnG, tho not your world either, and sudden death. Technics, Tactics and overall skills are pro chuvash. His biggest problem: Doing some faults by rushing the turns, it quiet often looks a bit aggorant. And BnG is his biggest leak, no question. But if you are not enough careful, the cows will kill you sooner or later.

Best chance to win against him: Defense tactic, BnG turns and going into sudden death. Your supersheep is your advantage there.

Alltogether, imo Crazy vs chuvash 2013: 30:70.  :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on September 07, 2013, 10:21 AM
Quote from: Crazy on September 04, 2013, 08:50 PM
Chuvash-Crazy 75-25% in schedule/pred.game?

those percentages are based on the predictions that were made. So, thats simply a 3-1 for chuvash that most players predicted.
But sure, you can prove the predictors wrong by winning more than 1 round ^^

and btw: I didn't predict 3-1  ;D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on September 07, 2013, 11:06 AM
I know SPW, it's just that I from time to time talk straight from the shoulder, more often when drunk. Well basically we disagree then, I don't see how his tactics are superior to mine, or that his overallskill is. BnG has been my weakest skill/scheme since I started playing, and in particular in recent years as more and more players have started notching, so I don't think that's any advantage on him. Chuvash has a better and wider understanding of how to make use of weps in the most effecient way imo, but other then that, our match should be wide open. It's 55-45% advantage him, nothing more ;P I know you don't like gambling, but I'll give you 1.85 in odds for Chuvash. It will give you a nice profit in return in the long run if Chuvash really is as big faourite as you say.

Indeed Random, that's why I questioned that Chuvash beats me 3 out of 4 times, like 3-1 for example. I am really motivated to prove them wrong, atleast. It's a start and better then nothing :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on September 07, 2013, 11:26 AM
Quote from: Crazy on September 07, 2013, 11:06 AM
Indeed Random, that's why I questioned that Chuvash beats me 3 out of 4 times, like 3-1 for example. I am really motivated to prove them wrong, atleast. It's a start and better then nothing :P

Then you just catch that 30%, nothing more. If you play 10 series against him, you will lose 7 of it by winning 3.  :P

By the way, BnG isnt only notching. Just check some "freestyle nades" from previous games. They can just turn everything and bring you the victory. And that has nothing to do with notches. Its just the damn skill.  ;)

Your odds getting smaller cause of that leak in BnG. And thats probably the best counter against players like chuvash.

I voted 3:0 btw and I dont change it until the deadline. I dont like to change predicts afterwards. :D

Dont take it personally, Crazy. I dont have anything against you and you are a nice guy. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on September 10, 2013, 04:13 PM
Quote from: Crazy on September 04, 2013, 08:50 PM
Even worse is Almog vs lales, which says 100% for Almog. Yeaaaaaaa right. My credibility is low tho as I've been the worst predicter this year :P

Good job.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Dulek on September 12, 2013, 08:41 PM
Congrats Crazy with beating chuvash, you proved some of us wrong. I must say sorry for my wrong prediction with your match against him. Keep going man!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on September 12, 2013, 09:59 PM
Quote from: SPW on September 07, 2013, 11:26 AM
Quote from: Crazy on September 07, 2013, 11:06 AM
Indeed Random, that's why I questioned that Chuvash beats me 3 out of 4 times, like 3-1 for example. I am really motivated to prove them wrong, atleast. It's a start and better then nothing :P

Then you just catch that 30% (..)

this.

And well done! :) Not like your football team  :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Chicken23 on September 15, 2013, 03:08 PM
Chuvash owned me. lol
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on September 16, 2013, 11:40 AM
Huge surprise: Ray beats SPW 3 to 2. ???
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on September 16, 2013, 04:08 PM
Ray beats SPW 3 to 2, but forgets to report the games? Nice job though, if you're not just messing around ;P You and SPW had some close games last year as well
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on September 16, 2013, 07:23 PM
3-2 vs Franz was epic toi. Watch last replay around 17mins for sheep finish of epicness to win the Series :p
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on September 16, 2013, 08:53 PM
I cannot report, I already messaged Random about that, but he doesn't answer.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on September 16, 2013, 09:38 PM
Quote from: Free on September 16, 2013, 07:23 PM
3-2 vs Franz was epic toi. Watch last replay around 17mins for sheep finish of epicness to win the Series :p

Yea, that was a really, really surprising move! Overall I really enjoyed watching those games, it's as good entertainment as can you get and could be watched while eating dinner or whatever suits your preference. I've already credited you @eac-site though, I'm not gonna lick your ass even more here, Free. Peace
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on September 16, 2013, 09:50 PM
The baseball bat at the end of the second game was a huge "f@#! off" moment. :D
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Random00 on September 16, 2013, 09:52 PM
Quote from: Ray on September 16, 2013, 08:53 PM
I cannot report, I already messaged Random about that, but he doesn't answer.

I fixed it this morning, I think...
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on September 16, 2013, 09:58 PM
Quote from: Dulek on September 12, 2013, 08:41 PM
Congrats Crazy with beating chuvash, you proved some of us wrong. I must say sorry for my wrong prediction with your match against him. Keep going man!

Hadn't seen this until now, thanks a lot Dulek! But you are not to say sorry about anything.. You are the best predicter so far this year (SPW giving you one hell of a competiton though), and you were the best predicter last year. You have over 80% correct picks over two years, it's a sick percentage.. I think you did the right thing predicting a win for chuvash, because he had a bigger chance beating me. But I think for someone trailing a bit behind in the stats, it would be more valuable to have predicted me.

PS: Gonna be exciting to see if we end up with same points yet again this year in the standings
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on September 18, 2013, 12:20 PM
The championship is coming to an end, we are in the finishing rounds - time flies crazy fast!

What are you thoughts about it so far? How do you feel you performed, over or under your expectations?

Personally, I think my position is both fair and misleading. I had very close games against Free or Crash that could have easily gone either way and the standings would show a different look right now. I was truly expecting to do a little better than this, although my level of playing and the level of commitment to the game nowadays are both pretty low. I usually have no time to prepare, unfortunately.

I'm going to face lales, Random00, Chicken23, JohnMcClane and Dulek in my finishing games, tough set of opponents, I think the most optimistic expectation for me is to get 6 or 8 points out of these games. I'll be sure to be a 100% prepared and give a hell of a fight to everyone. Good games so far, thanks for everyone, it's been a real pleasure. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on September 29, 2013, 02:09 PM
Next week, Almog versus Mablak game is coming up, which is going to be really intense most likely, especially because if you look at the standings, you can see what's at stake!

Is it possible that someone could stream that match live?
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on September 29, 2013, 06:45 PM
Well we should be playing tonight :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Chicken23 on October 17, 2013, 08:33 PM
Mid table is so tight! 7th-12th is anyones!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Crazy on October 17, 2013, 11:26 PM
Why ain't my 13th spot anyones Tom? :P Free is like me two points in difference from the 8th to 12th spot.. I will steal that 10th place from you for forgetting my spot!!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on October 18, 2013, 02:32 PM
whatsup with you crazy?  :D

you should be that aggressive before eac starts... maybe you would have more points then  :P
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Ray on October 27, 2013, 12:00 AM
Let me just give a big shout-out to our great organizers and sponsors of this amazing event that just ended for me. Thank you very much Random00 and SPW, this was amazing, I'm really sad that the championship is already over.

Dulek, great games at the end buddy, never would have thought I can win from 2-0, but the devil never sleeps... Worthy of a real derby that decided the faith of the 14th place. ;) I am hoping to get even better next year, I won 5 games out of 16, last year I won 5 out of 19 so that's better. This year I can say that 40% of the games I lost could have gone either way, so next year, goal is the mid-table! :) Thank you so much again, amazing few months, thank you everyone for playing.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Chicken23 on October 27, 2013, 12:09 AM
I've really enjoyed the tourney as well. It would be great if Crazy or something summarizes the results and in a similar review to his predictions before the tourney started!

In my games tonight I've also come back from 0-2 down when it looked like i'd be losing 0-3 to free. Im happy with some of my victories but also felt i let some opponents get away with a win who shouldn't have. 1 last game to go and hope to carry on with my strong end to eac  ;D

This tourney has helped me to reconfirm my own perception of my elite status!
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Dulek on October 27, 2013, 03:54 PM
Yeah Ray, good games and good fight for the lower table. ;) Some ups and downs from both sides, but that's how it goes.

I would also like to thank SPW, Random and all EAC participants for this whole tournament. We make each year great elite festival that lasted almost half a year. I, myself, am not happy with my performance, but I still enjoyed every single game whether it was a win or lose and thanks once again to SPW and Random for organisating this great event. I'm looking forward for next year, cheerio! :D Good luck to all. :)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Free on October 27, 2013, 07:23 PM
1 game to go with Crazy but I missed our time because of the time switch of today.

I also want to thank everyone participating in EAC, was full of emotions and good spirit. :)

Chuvash with his cows and making it work was a cool twist to overall elite tactics.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Almog on October 27, 2013, 08:13 PM
Thanks everyone, I enjoyed playing with each one of you.
Also thank you SPW and Random, for this awesome organization.
Thank you Ray for your small talks :)

Peace
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: SPW on October 27, 2013, 10:17 PM
Closing Ceremony will start in about one week since not all games are played yet. Random is already contact some guys for the trophies. All the winners will get their cash from 4th November onwards. All trasfers are handeling by paypal. If you wanna donate your cash prize just let me know.

Thank you all for this nice championship. After all, we didnt have a lot of problems this year. It was running better than last year, thats good! :)

And Crazy, please do a little romance about this. You are our pen-guy.   ;)

Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: HHC on October 28, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jooo, my final game is done as well  :)

Not sure yet whether this whole thing was a success for me. I guess 8-8 isn't so bad, certainly not with a positive balance. I do hope Chicken will lose his last match though. Feels a bit different to be 8th or 9th. 8th would be better than crazy's prediction haha  :)

Thanks to all the players yeah. I had some really nice games. Particularly against some old schoolers, like Chicken, Crazy and franz, ppl I dont play much with nemore  :-[
Setting dates didnt prove to be too hard. We did a good job on that indeed.

I guess the whole thing helped me get better as the scheme, although as the cup progressed I lost more and more focus. But I guess that goes for everyone. The first matches certainly were the most 'intensive' for me, but I guess thats also cause this was my 1st year (and hopefully not the last  :)).

Thanks eac, thanks SPW & random.
Waiting for the ending ceremony  8)
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Mablak on October 29, 2013, 07:56 PM
Very big thanks to SPW and Random, without this tourney I wouldn't have had any motivation to play elite right now, it's kind of a nice way to force all us busy old schoolers to play each other. It's pretty amazingly generous for SPW to sacrifice so much cash for us, so huge thanks there, I just hope this isn't a lot of money for him. And props to Random for getting some real life trophies, very awesome of you.

It was a pretty big time commitment, especially because I'd usually have to warm up before matches each week as well, so  maybe next year we could find a way to reduce the amount of time it takes, like 2 opponents per week. Doing that might also keep people warmer, since I don't think many of us could stay in shape throughout the entire 16-week period. But yeah, thanks for organizing guys.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: darKz on October 30, 2013, 12:40 AM
You guys.  :-*
Nice competition, I watched a ton of games and almost all of them were as high-level as I expected them to be. Great entertainment, thanks everyone.
Title: Re: EAC 2013 - Smalltalk
Post by: Devilage on October 30, 2013, 05:09 PM
Maybe next time I won't play at my gf's crappy desktop, so I can give you guys a good challenge :) was fun!