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Other Things => Gaming Central => Topic started by: lacoste on January 23, 2015, 01:54 PM
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Plenty of people play it nowadays, wondering if some of you too
My battletag Merzbau#2527
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they banned me and im too lazy to farm for goblins and gnomes :(
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Were you botting?
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the germans here play this ;D
I'll give it a try too, though I think i'll stick to MtG 8)
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I started playing 2 weeks ago. Its realy fun.
But I m still kinda nooby. Yet, I couldnt get more than 3 wins per run at arena :-X
What was your best arena-run?
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12-0 then i stopped playing it as my life was complete
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I started playing 2 weeks ago. Its realy fun.
But I m still kinda nooby. Yet, I couldnt get more than 3 wins per run at arena :-X
What was your best arena-run?
6 wins is my record, I think I achieved that twice.
pranksta#2797
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SPW1337#2893 my one. Playing ranked between #10 - #14.
Most of the games I'm playing with my golden Paladin. Hard to reach better rank with all those idiot face huntards and zoo's..
But still I love this game :D
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Were you botting?
yep
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Were you botting?
yep
YOU'RE SAD.
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Were you botting?
yep
Well done.
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sorry, but WTF IS THIS SHIT :O u must be really bored in ur life guys :o
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Its a game... you know, like worms, just tad different. More about it here (http://google.com).
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Played it a lot in the past, with GvG I stopped. They added even more RNG with that addon, so, meh.
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I'm KRD#2628, playing on the Europe server. I used to mostly arena, but now my priest deck is close enough to working to be fun, so I play ranked quite a bit.
Watched coste and SPW battle it out last night, that was fun! Looking forward to spectating some more Wormer vs. Wormer games in the future, and maybe play a few myself, although my connection has been a little shaky the last couple of days, I keep getting disconnected.
Feel free to add me! Or just come to the GameSurge IRC network where the #b2b and #worms channels see a bunch of Hearthstone talk take place.
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yea was pretty fun. We could make a wormer hs cup. :)
btw I hate priests ;D :D
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Were you botting?
yep
Well done.
thanks
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yea was pretty fun. We could make a wormer hs cup. :)
btw I hate priests ;D :D
Yea cup! Im just not sure what the system could be since some of us have only 1 "working deck" or less :)
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You could go with basic and uncommon cards only. That way people can't netdeck and have to be creative.
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That way you cant really be much creative and it even limits the playable classes, some are uncomparably stronger than other.
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I agree there. We could choose an hero and any cards for its deck. Then we play with it the whole cup, so no changes allowed, neither hero or single cards.
We could watch games from others, that would be fun.
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an hero
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I'm SwankyPants#22681 :-[
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Well met!
Well met!
Well met!
Well met!
Well met!
I am sorry.
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Well met! Lacoste :D
At first I didn't know what you were on about, till I started playing Paladin :D
My rank is 18 now. Slowly moving down. :-[
And I >>>>> Peja's ass.
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My account is: WhiteRqbbit#2179
As someone new its kinda anoying to play against all that legends :-X
I got 1 legend so far, rest just some blues.
But I made quite a nice deck with Gul´dan. Just 3 blue cards, rest is standart or common. And I stabilized at lvl14/15 :)
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Just build a decent Zoo deck or Huntard deck, won't cost much dust anyway.
Out of curiosity, what are you gaming stats in HS so far?
I have:
Wins: 1291
Arena Wins: 674
I quit since GvG though, never spend a cent on anything and highest rank was 3, never had the motivation to push for legend but it's possible with the aggro decks mentioned above.
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Dont play the above decks unless you have 0 respect to yourself! Well, zoolock is the least stupid out of all the aggro/spam decks.
Now honestly, if all you are interested in is climbing on ladder, you can build some cheap'ish aggro deck and be succesfull with it, but thats far from the game's potential, certainly not the enjoyable way of play for you and especially for your opponent, unless you enjoy being cheesy. The games where you lose is usually concede button as you run out of steam.
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is cheesy a new word for meta or what?
i'm sorry you lose to free aggro decks with 2k dust decks bro
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is cheesy a new word for meta or what?
i'm sorry you lose to free aggro decks with 2k dust decks bro
Last time i checked you were complaining about hysteria scheme being dumb
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There is nothing cheesy about decks that win the way they are built. Wallet Warrior for example requires a lot more dust to build (or money) to accomplish the same in a longer time period, especially at the start of a ladder you want to go quickly through the "less skilled" people to compete with the real meta that starts around rank 10. But even then, aggro decks are more popular because they are quick. You either win or lose usually between turn 5-8, if your win% is around 55% you will climb much faster than for example a slow Handlock or Control Warrior, even if your win chance is higher since your games take twice or even more time to finish.
People also need to understand that ladder rank meta is different than legend rank meta. If you play control warrior on rank 20, I am sorry you are doing it wrong IF you want to rank up. If you just play for fun, obviously it doesn't matter but might as well just play unranked. So, don't complain about people playing the correct deck for the present meta.
Usually my way of ranking up was go retard zoo/hunter until around rank 5, watch the meta and switch accordingly.
Btw, the only reason these decks are looked down upon, is simply the fact they are cheap to make and work. So, everyone can play them = even retards can win with it, that's the logic behind the reasoning. (lol) If everyone could afford to create control warrior (around 10k dust I believe) people would say: "oh man, I run into so many of them, and they actually win that means even retards can play them". You still need to play correctly to win vs. mirror matches or bad match ups. Obviously vs. decks that your deck is designed to counter you don't need a brain to play it. But that goes for relatively all decks. Shaman > Handlock for example, don't need to play that "good" to win that match-up.
Deck knowledge based on pre-GvG but these are really the basics that count in any HS environment.
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I have played all kind of decks and 1 thing i am sure of - decks like face/midrange hunter only dumb you down. There is no glory nor pleasure in winning with such decks. Whole hunter design as a class is broken; warlock and his card draw every turn is perfect for sticky minion spam that in addition buff themselves + the chance of a crucial topdeck is higher; now similar thing is happening to mech mage except that only card synergy gets out of control. All these decks rely on your opponent not having an early answer so game is pretty much done by turn 4-6 or in case of a mirror matchup, who gets better start. The amount of trcky decisions you have to make with these is very limited. If both of you play slower decks the game is uncomparably different. Its as simple as the amount of cards that went through your hand and turns /interaction between them that makes the game interesting, not how fast you can rush someone down. Botters played mainly these decks for a reason, computer couldnt handle deeper decision making and more complicated interactions, and as far as i know only Zoo and Shaman (the simple one with Sea Giants) were the only bots that were reliable in the long run.
And the fact they are cheap to make is indeed what annoys some people, but its how they win is that matters.
Is it fast and effective? Totally.
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Last time i checked you were complaining about hysteria scheme being dumb
and so are you apparently
what's the connection here?
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Winning with hunter felt the same as when I won with my Handlock, don't know what you are talking about. I got 1 step closer to the next rank. I don't play the deck that "feels" good. I play the deck that will rank me up the fastest. So for me there is no such thing as glory when I beat my opponent, I beat my opponent. In the end I think having cheap decks for people that don't pay real money is essentially what keeps competitiveness alive in the long run. You don't want a scenario where the cheapest entry level of ranking up is out of reach for the majority of players.
I guess since you value style over effectiveness in BnG as well it makes sense that you feel the same in other games. For me it's just about min/max or effectiveness so it's an easy call. ;)
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Winning with hunter felt the same as when I won with my Handlock, don't know what you are talking about. I got 1 step closer to the next rank. I don't play the deck that "feels" good. I play the deck that will rank me up the fastest. So for me there is no such thing as glory when I beat my opponent, I beat my opponent. In the end I think having cheap decks for people that don't pay real money is essentially what keeps competitiveness alive in the long run. You don't want a scenario where the cheapest entry level of ranking up is out of reach for the majority of players.
I guess since you value style over effectiveness in BnG as well it makes sense that you feel the same in other games. For me it's just about min/max or effectiveness so it's an easy call. ;)
Ok, i understand that you value the effectiveness and time. But what bothers me is why would you rank up for so many games with straight forward decks when theres literally no reward for it other than first time legend card back or a spot in tourneys if you were consistently reaching top legend ranks, which still sounds "low" to me to say the least. Im not going to judge your taste when it comes to hearthstone, but really.
Btw, reaching legend is not even considered special anymore, mainly because of what it takes to reach it with for example hunter.
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Undertaker got nerfed and so zoo and huntard. Blizzard is doing that very well imo (also earlier with bustard etc.).
I have to agree to anubis, good analyse. Lacoste is just a different player type (similar to myself). I dont respect face huntards or zoolock players but I understand them. Lacoste is different, he really plays any hero and I have a lot of respect because he knows this game very very well. So both are right, we are just different. Peace up and have fun by gaming :)
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The problem with Hunter is not the 1 or 2 cards, its a whole design begining on hero power, through secrets, weapons, powerfull spells, Webspinners to Highmane. I can assure you that no matter how i build a Hunter deck, it will maintain a decent winrate, not great but decent. Recently tried a deck with 0 minions and it worked out quite well.
And to be clear, i dont dislike the idea of aggro/quick strategies, i just think that it shouldnt be the ultimate dominant strategy both winrate and least time spent wise. Design is hard, but i dont believe its impossible to make it better.
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From a player's point of view, I don't get why someone would play a deck that results in quick games, win or lose. If you're so bored with a game that you just want it to be over quickly, why play at all? To compete within the real meta at rank 5 and higher? But the majority of those people got there playing the the same cancer decks you do, and why would they stop now?
Especially early on in a season, I actually find it very hard to justify spending time in ranked play, those decks just seem to exist with the purpose of ruining the fun of the people who would actually enjoy playing the game (preferably with decks of their own design), had it been balanced better. I mean I get the thrill of ranking up quickly, especially if it's your first time, but surely the enjoyment and pride that you get from it have to be lesser if you know you're essentially exploiting arguably broken hero/deck combinations that you didn't even discover on your own...
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From a player's point of view, I don't get why someone would play a deck that results in quick games, win or lose.
5 wins 3 loses in an hour is better than 4 wins and 0 loses in an hour for anyone not planning on spending real money.
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As I said, we are just different. I do understand both sides.
Zoo players etc are like hysteria wormers.
Non zoo players etc. like b2b perfectionists or Elitists.
All makes sense. ;D
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As I said, we are just different. I do understand both sides.
Zoo players etc are like hysteria wormers.
Non zoo players etc. like b2b perfectionists or Elitists.
All makes sense. ;D
that comparison sucks and makes 0 sense try again.
also, tell us how much time it took you to get all those legendaries.
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It was more for fun. I just want the fight out of this topic and talking about hearthstone in a good way or at least in a fun way.
Thats all, Mr negative. :P
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For a F2P player it takes about 4 to 10 months (depending on your luck of getting reliable legendaries and epics) of doing daily quests alone to be able to construct some playable decks that arent cancerous. After sometime you are at the point of having a lot of duplicates, which results in about 100 dust per pack on average, which results in you being able to craft cards pretty quickly. If you enjoy arena and you are really good at it, 10 months is enough to get a whole classic collection by just grinding "infinite" arena - by infinite i mean that you get 150 gold worth of reward on average so you can start a new run infinitely.
With the addition of GvG things get more complicated. Catching up is a lot harded than pre expansion, but its possible. Also arena gives GvG packs as a bonus, which cant be changed, which sucks.
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For a F2P player it takes about 4 to 10 months (...) 10 months is enough to get a whole classic collection by just grinding "infinite" arena
infinite arena takes quite a bit of skill and experience
but you do then understand why some people see fast decks as an optimal way of reaching a goal that otherwise takes "ages"?
it's farming vs competing. effective wins vs wins.
and usually money players hating on farmers because their hundred buck decks losing to free aggros
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Its obvious why they play it, but as i said it shouldnt be the ultimate and most effective way of playing HS and telling people to be "smart" and play it because "results" just makes the tumour grow bigger. At most it should be very risky to choose this way of playstyle, but it isnt. Its the most optimal in every way.
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lol this turned into a telecow hysteria discussion ;D
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lol this turned into a telecow hysteria discussion ;D
so did your face
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From a F2P perspective it even makes more sense to play the fast decks because it yields more gold per hour. I accelerated my deck quality with long sessions grinding gold on ranked/unranked and the gold per hour ratio was quite good.
This is, in my opinion, the best progression any f2p player can do in HS when starting out.
Play arena (also teaches you the cards) till you can create a Zoolock or Hunter deck, grind gold with it, create other competitive decks to play with. Do whatever you enjoy the most.
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then get bored and go back to wow
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WoW addon was a disaster, I played until 5/7HC and quit out of boredom around x-mas. Garrison feels like a browser type game and doesn't fit in a MMORPG. Tbh I hope wow dies, it's like W:A nowadays the golden days are gone.
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Got some funny recent moments from my games to share:
Giants mage shenanigans - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_1.16.2015.14.23.42.png
Thoughtsteal to mustard-2arms combo - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.1.2015.01.06.26.png
Druid vs Druid mirror - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.1.2015.14.36.33.png
Piloted Shredder was generous this time - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.1.2015.20.53.29.png
A cure for cancer - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.2.2015.19.33.35.png
Next level thievery as Priest - http://imgur.com/a/vu3Sh
Aaand a broken video of final turn in a Fatigue Mage vs Control Warrior matchup, where Warrior had over 50 points of armor and full health at the start of his fatigue phase; 1 more card draw would kill me -
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My first shoe ever and it wasnt even my board https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.16.2015.21.25.44.png
And this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone_Screenshot_2.16.2015.21.55.52.png
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And cool puzzle http://i.imgur.com/A7lqm1u.jpg
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can anyone give me quick pointers as to what cards I should combine with all the various characters?
I have a mage now with gooder spells, but ae, I wanna know what kind of cards I should select with warlock, warrior, shaman, etc.
I tried a murlock spam with druid, but the deck sucks asss. :-[ Are murlocks a no go with druid anyway, or did I pick the wrong cards to go with them?
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Depends what kind of hearthstone you want to play. slow, slowish or aggro.
Murlocs need full classic roster and some additional cards to be able to pull anything, but they are bad vs meta decks. Also, if anything, you should try warlock or shaman with them.
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Surely some characters learn more towards aggro and others more towards slow.
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Nah, all characters can play various styles, maybe except priest.
Anyway, you could post screenshots of your avaible cards or something. Sadly theres no easy way of linking someone to your collection, at least none i know of.
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Whats your goal, HHC? Playing for fun or with ambitions to get legendary someday? If first, Murloc decks are fine. Shaman best hero for it, imo. But its also funny with a paladin, f.e. with sword of justice in combo and so on. But for those decks you need a lot of epic and rare cards, some leg is also not that bad. So, if you wanna save time you should play a cheap basic deck like hunter or maybe a mech mage. You will climb up easier and earn some gold to get the entry-ticket to the arena, to get boosters and from time to time, you can craft missing cards with your dust.
So its all up to my entire question. :)
And, if you like the game you also can think about buying some boosters. Dont see a problem there because it was free and if you have the money, no worries. It just gives you a nice starter.
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As I said SPW, I have a decent mage deck so far. But I get lost trying out other characters. Don't really know what creatures I should look out for then.
I uploaded my collection: http://share.pho.to/8uzDD ;)
Don't want full decks, just maybe some ideas. Like 2 or 3 cards that work well together, or cards that are really powerful.. that I can build around y'know.
Not planning to burn money on this tho. I kinda like the challenge of starting from scratch and really be glad when you hit that special card :)
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Did you already level up all heroes to lvl 10? You easily can do this against the Innkeeper. By reaching lvl 10 you gain some more class cards. That was my way when I started and gives you a feeling for all characters. Its important to know all specific cards from each class. For your mage deck, maybe you could head for a freeze mage, you already have some cards for it. The combo with the doomslayer f.e. is a part of it. Maybe we can talk later, going to work now. :)
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where are your spider tanks
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Spider Tank is a mech. Not sure he has some gvg cards.
Very good neutral cards are: Sledge Belcher, Azure Drake, Yeti, Owl and some more. And ofc Dr. Balance. ::)
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As for freeze mage, it needs very specific expensive cards for it to have any effect, and imo its not the greatest deck to focus on as your main (its risky depending on meta, some matchups just crush it).
First of all, you should disenchant your Kidnapper (rogue epic), its useless for its cost and unless blizzard changes it (pretty much impossible), it wont see any play.
As for decks, its still too early to think of anything worthwhile. You have some good cards here and there but these are just single copies. By the looks of it, you could try Shaman with Sea Giant, Lighting Storm, Feral Spirits, double Stormforged Axes, Earthshock, double Rockbiter Weapon, Crackle, double Flametounge Totem, double Hex, Unbound Elemental, double Fire Elemental, Earth Elemental, Piloted Shredder, Azure Drake, double Sen'jin, Chillwind Yeti, double Argent Squire, Antique Healbot, Loot Hoader, Stormwind Champion and double Frostwolf Warlord for funz. I know you didnt want a full deck, but you could give it a try.
Your priest doesnt have too many cards, but double Thoughtsteal would definitely deliver you some fun games (best card in the game). With so many cards you would have to put as many board control spells into your deck, like all Shadow Words, double Holy Nova, double Mind Control, Clerics as your card draw engine, PW: Shield, maybe Smites, Temple Enforcers, MC Tech for more control and Injured Blademaster - its great in priest. More below.
Other than that, as i said its too early to think of any big combos. Good allround cards you could fit into any deck are: 1 copy of Acidic Swamp Ooze, Loot Hoader, Mind Control Tech if you face a lot of spammy decks, Scarlet Crusader is nice in some cheap decks, Shattered Sun Cleric if you dont have too many 3-drops in your deck, Tinkertown Technician if you run some mechs in your deck, Chillwind Yeti, Piloted Shredder is great, Sen'jin if you need taunts, Antique Healbot if you have problems with your health dropping too quickly, Azure Drake is great in conjuction with damaging spells, preferably AoE, Argent Commander for something rushy. Other great non-basic class-cards you have are Shielded Minibot and Aldor in Paladin, Thoughtsteal and Auchenai in Priest, and Imp-losion in Warlock.
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Spider Tank is a mech. Not sure he has some gvg cards.
Very good neutral cards are: Sledge Belcher, Azure Drake, Yeti, Owl and some more. And ofc Dr. Balance. ::)
who cares about it being a mech lol
also HHC, just get good with free decks and focus on getting one of each card of the ones you read online are very cost efficient.
you should give no f@#!s about synergies at this point
edit: alternatively, watch Trump or whoever on youtube.
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yeh guesso ropa. I dont have enough cards to pay attention to synergy.
need to work with what i have. I kinda feel at this point it's easiest to defeat stronger decks with a combo of silencers and dmg spells.
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yeh guesso ropa. I dont have enough cards to pay attention to synergy.
need to work with what i have. I kinda feel at this point it's easiest to defeat stronger decks with a combo of silencers and dmg spells.
I wasn't very good (i think my best rank is 11 or 10, and that's with a free deck, with aggro huntard and ramp druid I only managed 14 - 12), but still, the best advice is to learn the cost game, the trading, and work from there, the simpler your cards are the simpler your decisions will be.
edit: there should be good youtube videos with free to play decks. I used to watch this (https://www.youtube.com/user/TrumpSC/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=10) (he's good because he tries to explain most of his moves, also very good player, but there are better), but obviously you'd want something currently updated to the GvG expansion. Not because your cards will be different, but to learn how to trade against mech and such, if you wanna do any learning by watching videos anyway.
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Also its good idea to get Naxxramas as it gives you guaranted cards, and so many of them are top notch. Its kind of a bad deal if you pay for it with ingame gold though, 5x700. Soon theres also an upcoming new adventure expansion, such as Naxxramas, so yeah, better to get both sooner than later.
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Also twitch.tv is a good place to learn :)
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The first deck for ranked I would create is a Warlock Zoo deck, it is based on favorable creature trading which is the most important aspect in Hearthstone. You will only need to worry about 1-2 spells and the rest are creatures, card draw is taking care of with your hero power so that's covered too. And even without Naxx and GvG cards you can create a competitive Warlock zoo deck, in fact the original zoo deck is pretty good atm, went to rank 7 without any problems. And the rare cards are all good anyway so you will want to get them. :)
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/202665-hhc-save-money-deck
Try this, if you don't have a blood knight (its a tech card against the annoy bot), use earthenring farseer.
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http://www.twitch.tv/amazhs/v/3984098?t=2h4m1s
Im not even kidding...
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lol that was insane. :D
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Any new players around?
And a tribute to KRD. He got legend last season :)
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Winter is coming https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2005-09-15%2020.24.38.png
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Dont get it :'(
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:D Its not about the cards
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Damn you, I was hard trying finding lethal there haha ;D
Now I got it. You and your shoes lol
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2005-13-15%2011.26.56.png
Topdecked quartermaster
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Hm, you did muster at turn 3 and he put the water elemental? And on turn 4 you did another muster but why he didnt kill at least one of your little palas? What he did on turn 3?
I dont get it :D Or hm, he maybe just unstable portal on turn 3?
But nice quartermaster. Didnt see that before.
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He played secret on turn 3, then Water Elemental on turn 4 (i was first).. my bet is he was bitching for big Flamewaker play with coin next or something
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Didnt see that before.
How about this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2005-15-15%2001.43.59.png
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Well that I saw before, not often but still. Fk this druid otk combo :D
And yea, dont be pity by using the flamewaker. Esp. against palas and grim warriors (not only cause of the patrons, lol)
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http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508175/heroes-emerge-new-hearthstone-heroes-are-coming-6-4-2015
10$ for an alternative hero animation? the f@#!?
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http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508175/heroes-emerge-new-hearthstone-heroes-are-coming-6-4-2015
10$ for an alternative hero animation? the f@#!?
Enjoyment has a price,my friend
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Cool! And the prize is ok in order how many hours of fun you have with this game. If you buy a full title game you may pay something between 30$-100$, depends on the game and the console, and after some hours / days its already played to finish. Hearthstone is f2p and all those gimmicks and features etc. are just for the fun and not giving any advantage.
Nothing about you, HHC. But I hate people playing a free (!) game for years and didnt want to pay anything. Nothing against it at generally, but they just have to shut up then. Only with those people such games wouldnt appear anymore. The thousands of guys spending money in it just makes it possible to be a free title.
$10 is nothing, sorry. At least if you are not a 10 years old kiddy or a dagobert duck person. :D
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Owe SPW. I guess you're right when you say it's no harm cause it doesn't affect gameplay.
But well, I think it's not worth it to purchase. As all you get is a different picture for your hero really.. I think $10 is a little overdone then. But o well.
I personally prefer games that are a 1-time deal. The money is not an issue for me, and I already bought the 2 expansions. But yeah this whole f2p-thing is often meant to f@#! you up in the long term. Cause at some point you have to choose between further investing money into the game or giving up on it completely (cause you get blown away online). That's a dependance i feel somewhat uneasy with.
I would have issues playing this game if i hadn't had the expansions. And in hindsight, I'm not sure I'd even give the game a try if i knew i'd have to purchase them in order to play the game in full (as in, get access to all the cards, which is kinda a necessity if you want to get very far online).
I wouldnt be able to play this game knowing I wouldnt be able to unlock a fairly large portion of cards.
edit: seriously SPW, 10$ a piece, you gonna purchase all nine heroes... you gotta pay 90$ !
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Some have different views on value of money than others, while I have plenty of money to spare I hate giving it to people/companies that obviously try to milk you. Since f2p is a bad game business in my opinion and oftentimes makes otherwise great games complete shit, I believe that cosmetics can have a place in a "f2p" game. This is pretty harmless compared to other things they could have done. I don't spend money on f2p games because I want them to die, they are a plague in my humble opinion. I have seen immense stupidity of gamers that throw hundreds of dollar/euro at stuff that simply leave me speechless. Especially the mobile market is filled with milking companies that exploit the clueless lemmings that gamers have become.
Again, some people buy expensive shit IRL too that makes no sense, like some overpriced label of clothing just to show others they are somewhat rich. The same is happening in games, where expensive in-game items become an abomination of their wallet power. It has changed, back in the day the only way to shine was to play a lot and be good at it. I don't mind people spending their money on it, time changes but it feels like for the worse.
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knowing blizzard all their stuff costs so f@#!ing much...
u wanna change faction in wow... 25 f@#!ing eruos...
u wanna change appearance of ur character... 20 f@#!ing euros...
who comes up with this shit
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Btw
;D
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goddamnit.
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goddamnit.
No worries :) /r/hearthstone is now full of similar posts
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&feature=youtu.be
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Haha hillarious :D
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Tavern brawl sounds interesting :)
Glad they dont charge for this like they do with arena.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19508176
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2006-12-15%2018.41.18.png
then
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2006-12-15%2018.42.36.png
just a "regular" shit :) Btw, in the second screenshot, the top icon in the history is Resurrect, which spawned the dead Velen
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You see value in that card? Sure, velen was superior and probably best at your opponents deck. But Im not sure if this card brings enough value in the current rush / face / tempo - meta. It cost 4 mana and thats quiet a lot for a leper gnome, abusive seargent, owl etc.
But for the fun I guess its a cool card. Take the Maly from the warlock or a Tirion from Paly *caugh* or an Ysera / Rag from mage / warri. Or like you the Velen from a priest. :D
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Its a win condition in my deck and it works. Emperor made the card somehow viable. I know its not a candyland to prepare such a complex combo, but my deck has, similar to freeze mage, a crap ton of card draw and sustainability, which makes it very strong against the archetypes you have in mind especialy :) Hunter for example is a joke to play against most of the time, yesterday I was constantly bad mannering 1 of them by spamming threat and highlighting my face with mouse cursor. The guy had bow on 1 charge and a secret, i had some minion on board all the time and I didnt attack for f@#! knows how long. He only used that last charge from the bow once he got another one in his bottom 10 cards. I was allways above 20 health, I went to fatigue, ive drawn cards in fatigue for 0 mana (thx to 5 triggers from my emperor) just to BM him, Ive alexed him from 9 to 15 health, so you might say that velen isnt even a win condition against this one in some cases :) Its not an ultimate deck as it has its weaknesses and a really bad ones, like warrior or druid, or even freeze mage, but hell is it not fun to play and accept all these friend invites from people to ask you WTF WAS THAT. Overall Velen isnt great, it needs something else for it to bring some value, and most of the time you gotta unleash that the turn its played coz obviously its the primal target to remove, but the thing with priest is that it lacks burst and noone really expects you to hit for 20+ damage in a single turn with empty board (which might be kinda obvious in my deck but still) and so it can work if used correctly.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2006-13-15%2007.46.21.png
Thats my decklist but please dont share.
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Looks cool, what krd saying about it? Wanna watch you some games heh. No worries, I wont share your deck with anyone. ;)
About hunters, imo there is only one pure face deck. Others like hybrid, midrange and also trap, will remove your thaurissan very quickly.
Imo there is a lot space to test variations with each class in the current meta. And those decks can win games in upper ranks.
Most important thing is to have fun and the current meta allows everyone to just test some new synergies. Maybe they have not that good win condition like the top deck (grim patron warrior, handlock, freeze mage etc.) but you have fun with it and making your opponent like "wtf he plays" ;D
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I have just 1 question, what is that topic about, and why dont u guys write in english? oO
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Good year for card games. Brawl upcoming + Magic: Origins release next month (free to play, only cash to speed up collecting; ) + in 2nd half of year release of elder scrolls card game which is supposed to be competition to HS. Lookin forward 8)
edit: Brawl starts this wednesday & finishes next monday.
Europe---------------Wed 05:00 PM CEST-------------Mon 6:00 AM CEST
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the brawl thing is just temporary?
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the brawl thing is just temporary?
It's special events, hosted every other week or so. They last for a few days, then they are unavailable for some and after that a new event with new specific rules starts.
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I will check out if this brawl feature is fun, not a lot of hopes but the less you are hyped the less you can get disappointed, right? :D
Edit: And it actually sucks, at least the first week hehe.
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Edit: And it actually sucks, at least the first week hehe.
Ja it did suck and i dont have high expectations for the future ones, its Blizzard designing it after all, targetting that casual majority that play for a good laugh. Im up for some deckbuilding tho, depending on the range of cool possible mechanics.
Btw, sixes everywhere:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2006-23-15%2000.17.32.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2006-22-15%2001.06.12.png
About that second screenshot, ive drawn Sense Demons and then Demonhearth that adds 5/5 to a demon, and since Nefarian doesnt have any demons in the deck, Sense added 2 Worthless Imps to my hand, that are demons.
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that post :D 10/10 :D
Guess next brawls are with self deck buliding.
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I havent had the urge to try banana brawl yet except 1 f@#!ed up deck where i thought every banana adds +1/+1, but this might be interesting to follow/join http://www.gosugamers.net/hearthstone/news/31550-gosugamers-presents-the-tavern-brawl-open-tournament-series
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Hunter for example is a joke to play against most of the time, blahblablahblablablah
Something like this :)
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evil bm :D
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You know that the guy who spectated me actually opened Thalnos in a quest pack :D I stopped recording like 5 seconds before it got announced. Its a second Thalnos that went out of control, first one was when KRD complained missing Thalnos after watching some of my game or something, then he got a golden one in a pack...
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I also got thalnos in golden. It was actually my first golden legendary. ;D
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darKz#2766, add me putos.
I'm playing every now and then but I'm still a noob with only one half-solid deck. I also don't own any legends. I enjoy beating guys with a ton of Naxxramas cards in their deck. :D
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Finally :)
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hehe welcome darkz
I started half a year ago. Yesterday I finally finnished all Naxxramas -.-
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cool, darkeli :) will add you 8)
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So I guess you got Naxx by gold only then? They really want people to buy that shit, but at least there's a (long) way around spending money on the expansions I guess.
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If you wanna stay full f2p you
probably will never have a full collection.
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2007-14-15%2010.24.03.png
Thats actually quite possible :)
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gg! :D
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43525724/Hearthstone%20Screenshot%2007-15-15%2000.40.08.png
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If you have Samsung Galaxy S6, you get 3 classic packs and a card back after logging in via this device, if not, you can emulate it on for example PC and get it anyway if you want to go through a bit of an hassle.
I will repaste and fix the guide posted on reddit..
Step 1. Download Genymotion https://www.genymotion.com
Step 2. Install Genymotion and add a Google Nexus 7 - 4.3
Step 2.a. Click Settings icon next to Google Nexus device and change CPUs to "2" and RAM to "2048"
Step 3. Start the emulator
Step 4. Download this (http://filetrip.net/dl?4SUOrdcMRv) file and drag it into the emulator then restart the emulator
Step 5. Download this (http://www.devfiles.co/download/xQds6mjJ/gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip) file and drag it into the emulator then restart the emulator
Step 6. Open the google play store, add an account, and download Hearthstone and Build Prop Editor
Step 7. Open Build Prop Editor and change the ro.product.brand class to "samsung" and the ro.product.device to "SM-G920F" then add (with a + icon on top) a new string "ro.product.model" with "SM-G920F" class
Step 8. Restart Your Emulator
Step 9. Open Hearthstone Change region to EU, Sign in and enjoy :)
I just got my second Ancient of War thanks to that cheat xd
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Uh new expansion next month: "The Grand Tournament".
And there will be a new keyword, like deathrattle:
"Inspire" is a keyword which will trigger whenever you use your Hero Power.
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/expansions-adventures/the-grand-tournament/cards
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Ae, good news AFAIK.
New brawl is worth it too. Very fast games, good gold mine opportunity.
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I agree on your brawl opinion, but I'm lazy as crap, so I just usually play until I get to 100 gold, or finish all my quests and then sign off.
Especially when I open boosters and get crap like today, opened 3 boosters, got 3 rares which I already had....
Anyway, I'll get back to you guys with my battletag later so we can play if you want! :)
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In this brawl I just had the luckiest first 4 draws I could imagine. Feugen, Stalagg, Faceless Manipulator x2. Triple Thaddius on the board in turn 2 pretty much. :D
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In this brawl I just had the luckiest first 4 draws I could imagine. Feugen, Stalagg, Faceless Manipulator x2. Triple Thaddius on the board in turn 2 pretty much. :D
darkz, is this like a magic the gathering type game or what? I'm pretty ignorant of this.
100% video game or is it a card game too?
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It's somewhat like MTG, more simplified though. There's all the information you can imagine on the web, you can check it out yourself.
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Let me update on this:
I got so frustrated these days!
1. First turn Alexstraza!
2. First turn muster for battle + hero power + quartermaster (I mean wtf....)
3. Ragnaros raping, I don't even want to mention it....
I got a chance to pull out some nice combos, however, I don't have such an admirable collection, all the legendaries I've collected so far:
Jaraxxus, Prophet Velen, Nat Pagle, King Mukla, Mekgineer Thermaplugg, Old Murk Eye (Achievement ofc).
I've had an account before, but since my GF started playing, I didn't want her to quit after seeing how shitty HS can be if you don't have any good cards, so she got jaraxxus, mukla, mekgineer, troggzor, ysera, deathwing, grommash, murk too, malorne, archmage antonidas and many more+ plus whole naxx.
I bought myself first wing of blackrock the other day, and tbh, one of the best investments in hearthstone (I've unlocked whole naxx without paying on my old acc, I don't know how the fk have I been so patient).
Anyway, in the last week, I've never got so many shit boosters.
First of all, I think I've got my 85th bomb lobber, I so hate that card for getting it so many times, I don't even use it!
My usual rule is, when I get a legendary, next 20 boosters aren't worth crap, I got so frustrated once, I went to blizzard's FB page and gave them a hard time about it lol.
I think it's time for me to take a little break, I can't believe out of 5 boosters I opened in the last three days (one watch and learn, brawl and rest quests) I've got one card I didn't have: Bomb Lobber. And that's only because I disenchant him every time I need something. FML
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So hows your battletag? :)
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You get every 20th pack a legendary. So it looks fine to me. As soon as you have a good amount of cards a pack means 40 dust. Keep playing, esp. arena has a good value when you know how to play that game.
And yea walrus, just watch at youtube or twitch. HS is always at the top 5 games so you can find it very easy.
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You get every 20th pack a legendary.
On average. Its possible to open 100 packs without getting a legendary and then get a few, one after another. I have opened about 60+ "empty" packs once and then got 3 legs or so in short time. Ofc im not basing it on myself alone, many people gathered stats alerady.
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My battle tag is #2824, sorry I forgot it from all the grief! :D
I'll be free some time tomorrow and we can play if you want :D
I also gotta finish some cup matches here, totally forgot about it lol :D
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Btw, they say arena is worth it around third win, and once you learn which cards to pick, it's partially luck (on which cards you get), but it's entirely possible to get to 15 wins.
I myself don't play arena since I get very nervous if I get something like 1-3 or 2-3, so my record was 8-3 I think, but out of maybe 10 arena games :)
Also, I got golden Malorne on my first account, figured it's not that good, I better disenchant it for something worth it.
Created Ysera, got Ysera week after. I cried :D
No goldies on my new acc yet though.
Btw, as someone sad, in 20 boosters you should get a legendary, but still, it's not a must.
100% for one rare, 20% for epic, 5% for legendary, 0,5% for golden legendary (idk chances for rest of the goldies)
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(http://i.imgur.com/zvLOkgK.png)
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Priest is so strong with mind control, shadow word: death & resurrection :-[
Was awesome, my chronosaur got destroyed, so i resurrected it. Then faceless Manipulator.
Next turn I get my 2nd ressurect in hand (+2 additional cause of the chrono's :D). Then it was done ;D
Gotta love this brawl. Fun & goooold mine 8)
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haha nice ;D really funny games this week 8)
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Like the new portal shit too ;D
It's so random, it's totally up my sleve 8)
Btw, yesterday was release of MtG: Duels on Steam.
They took a lot of the recipe of HS and according to Anubis it's easier for f2p players to get an equal collection. You gather the gold a lot faster it seems, and against CPU opponents as well.
You can download it here: http://store.steampowered.com/app/316010/
But yeh, warning atm: the servers are down a lot of time (i hope it's child bug), and when you play offline the game won't save your campaign progress :(
Few tips:
- AI cannot predict 'instants'. If you plan on playing CPU instead of humans a lot: throw in a bunch of instants (green has good one (primal bellow) and white too).
- In normal deck of 60 cards, roughly 22 should be lands. If you have a multi-colour deck, throw in the multi-colour lands that read: 'comes in tapped, except when you already own this or that basic land'. Use the 'mulligan' to redraw cards at the start of the game if you have less than 3 lands (2 is risky).
- At start, probably should use white, black or green. These are colours that don't require many cards to be useful.
- Rough meaning of colour:
Blue: Spells (non-destructive); flying; return to hand & tap abilities; library effects (draw cards; or move cards from the draw pile to the graveyard).
Green: Strong creatures; no flying (only reach as defence vs fly); mana/land abilities; Elves as major race.
White: Healing & protection; attack with masses; Humons as major race, also includes Angels.
Red: Spells (destructive); Goblins as major race; effects that boost attack.
Black: a bit of everything; Zombies as major race, as well as Demons; effects that take life; destroy creatures or that effect your graveyard.
Most often you find yourself combining two colours (more than that is hard land-wise). In quests too you are asked to complete fights with 2-colour decks. In MtG they are linked to certain 'guilds'. Due to cards being linked to a particular colour, there's really only 1 'basic' strategy for each colour-combination:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b1/e3/30/b1e330edfc522328a5f713f8c10c3050.jpg)
Azorius (white/blue): this is quite versatile, but heavy on Enchantments. A good combo here is to cast an unblockable blue creature and pimp it up with white/blue aura spells.
Dimir (blue/black): mind grinding/graveplundering deck: blue cards move cards from the library (the drawing pile) to the graveyard, black spells bring the graveyard ones to the board.
Rakdos (black/red): focus on doing damage: red spells that do damage to creatures/players, combined with black creatures that take opponent's life. Red creatures with haste are nice for this agressive deck too.
Gruul (red/green): overpower your enemy: big green creatures cast with green spells that increase mana. Red spells to give them haste and destroy enemy creatures.
Selesnya (green/white): spam the board with cheap minions & tokens; back them up with creatures that have power/toughness equal to the ammount of creatures you control + instants/enchantment that power up all of your creatures.
Orzhov (white/black): Gain life yourself, while taking health away from your opponent. Works well in any mode, particularly in modes with more players (as do any decks that make you gain health).
Izzet (blue/red): Spell-galore. Play creatures that benefit from or enhance spell effects.
Golgari (black/green): deck where you f*ck with your own graveyard. Use cards here that place cards into your graveyard and add green ones that bring creatures back from them. Cards with 'sacrifice' benefits come in handy.
Boros (red/white): good deck for an early head start. Aimed for melee-fighting. Best way to go is cast cheap creatures and powering them up with enchantments (both aura and general ones).
Simic (blue/green): Imo the weakest, but also the most fun. The best to do IMO is to include creatues that give benefits when they enter the battlefield. Combine them with creatures that force you to take other creatures back into your hand or use the blue spells for this. Then play the creatures again next turn to gain their entrance benefit once again. Fun part of this one is that it allows you to draw many cards; but it lacks destructive force.
At first, don't go for high synergy (you lack cards for this), go for cards that have intrinsic value: high attack/defence for the card's cost, cards that cast multiple creatures and cards of general purpose (cards that kill creatures or neutralizes them (e.g. enchantments that doesn't allow them to tap or doesnt allow them to attack/defend).
Steer clear from blue-red combinations at first. They are hard to play and you need a lot of cards to make them function properly.
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Here's a deck made solely out of basic cards you get straight away (I think they are the same for everyone?):
For some reason there's a lot of elves cards in there already, enough to get a high synergy one. :-[
Lands:
10x Swamp
10x Forest
2x Woodland Cemetery
3x Golgari Guildgate
Creatures (green):
3x Sunblade elf (elf)
2x Gatecreeper vine (mana ability)
3x Jagged-scar archers (anti-fly) (elf)
3x Reclamation sage (anti-artifacts/enchantments) (elf)
4x Lys Alana Huntmaster (spawns elfs) (elf)
Creatures (black):
1x Gurmag Swiftwing (can be a bad surprise in combo with instants)
3x Child of Night (lifelink to increase health; weak shit, but only health giver you have, can upgrade with instant if really short on life).
4x Scarred Vinebreeder (elf)
2x Lys Alana Scarblade
Spells (instants):
Green:
2x Primal Bellow (+1 for each forest)
2x Wildsize (+2/+2; trample; draw card)
2x Chorus of Might (+1 for each creature; trample)
Spells (sorcery):
2x Bone Splinters (destroy creatures)
1x Bitter Revelation (draw 4 cards, 2 into hand, 2 into graveyard; lose 2 life)
1x Rise from the Grave
Pretty sure you can fairly easily beat hard CPU with this one. :)
Made this in a single min, so yeah, needs finetuning. But it's devastating enough vs AI.
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Good tutorial HHC! I will try out your deck soon, I am generally pretty unlucky with getting elf cards though, not a single good green elf card for me yet. Still owning the hard AI pretty hard with my deck. Maybe we should make a new Magic Duels thread? I suppose not many will play it anyway(from worms), it is indeed less newbie friendly but also a lot more fun to me at the same time. :) I can already tell you though, if you HATE RNG and random effects in Hearthstone, come to Magic Duels, this cardgame has a LOOOOOT less of that, and it feels more skilled too, you have to anticipate more and do more complex math since the blocker can decide what he blocks. You can essentially build traps lol, or even bluffs like in Poker. :D
My general opinion on lands is that the ones that come in tapped are not good for rush decks, you NEED the mana every turn early on to build up pressure. I have had many turns where I wished "omg if it only was a normal land". Hence I removed all 4 lands that come in tapped and only kept the 2 special lands that come in untapped if you own land x/y. Much better mulligans this way. The early mixed decks generally use only 1 specific type of a land anyway, so that you can get away with just 1 forest and 3 swamp for example.
What I like about green/white is the insane value of flight buffs from white and good early minions (the 2 mana 2/2 that buffs +1/1 for a turn) and the 1 mana 2/1 which enhances your early rush on turn 1. I felt like playing a 1 drop is essential in these types of decks, so having more of them felt like a big difference in rushing the AI down. The white flight buff can only be countered by another flight creature, which you counter with your green elfs that can shoot down flying for free, it's a counter to a counter lol, pretty neat. Also flight often won me games because AI started to build a board and could only fly above the blockers. :D
Wildsize is probably the highest value card for green imo, you kill a card you deal damage to opponent (usually) and you draw a card, it's 99% of the times a two for one situation which is what you want early on to keep your board attacking face.
I am too lazy to post my list though, and I feel like HHC is the only interested in this anyway, lol.
P.S.: HHC, reset is at midnight, did the 400 gold cap yesterday night again. :)
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Decent news http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/968-new-card-reveals-from-gamescom-new-mechanic-joust
Finally some physical rewards for climbing ladder. Now they just have to remake the whole ladder system for a legit one and rebalance gold gains to consider game lenght or something :)
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I saw a screenshot of a rank 5 treasure chest. It had 3 golden cards, a cardback and 5 dust.
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Yep its not going to be much i bet, least all these rewarded cards are golden, and apparently the amount doesnt improve past rank 5.
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My first TGT pack, I dont even...
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Least u started with a leggie :)
I had only 1 rare card in 7 packs :-[
*back to mtg goes*
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3 legendaries (2 playable), 12 epics and about 1500 dust for getting rid of crap and duplicates. Good deal considering how unlucky you could be
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Some of you bought a set yesterday with 5 extra packs? Obv it was a mess from blizz. You could order as many sets as you want. In the mean time, its iixed. But all those pre-purchaser got rek'd, so me. But tbh, I dont care and I am happy with all those lucky guys.
I didnt buy that set for about €3 with 7 instead of 2 packs. What a fail from blizz. :D
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3 legends (also 2 playable), about 10 epics and only ~600 dust, didn't get as many rare duplicates. I'm still not sure what to build with that shit though. :D
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Just got Tinkmaster Overspark :D
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give it a try :D https://www.tus-wa.com/files/file-865/#file-editor