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Title: [SOLVED] 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: Rok on December 05, 2009, 08:21 PM
bOr left after their pick which we won. Me and Ray waited in AG for 15 minutes, Ray tried to reach bOr members on MSN but nobody was on. So now I report a free win. We pick ttrr before the wxw was played, I can provide a chat log proving that.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 05, 2009, 08:41 PM
lmao, from mods a free win? what a joke! nice exemple.
i know we are to inactive to play that game aftr!
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 05, 2009, 08:46 PM
Troll as much as you want, it's the first free win I EVER reported, I'm just sick of always saying "np, we won't report, we don't care... etc", I could've reported around 20 free wins before, but I never did.

Crash had to go, Doritos left without saying a word, and you wasn't around. If you want, you can complain. Mods don't mod their own games or games of their clan, I'm just a regular player as far as this game is concerned.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 05, 2009, 08:51 PM
no u must be mod alwys, lol whats ur point? no ill not complain. it was just stupid report since there are a theard about this shit and many other stff, u guys(mods) are alwys comment on games reported as freewin. its just stupid in my eyes, since u know that crash gtg..or u think that they was scared with u? what clan we are? looks like u guys do not know us..
i hope evryone watch this shit, and evryone should start reporting as freewin again.

enjoy ur easy points

RoH isnt like that, or used be....
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 05, 2009, 08:59 PM
Crash had to go, but you were there before the first game and you are here now. You weren't there when we waited for you.

no u must me mod alwys, lol whats ur point?

My point is that I can't mod a game I played in. What is it that you don't understand here?

... u know that crash gtg..or u think that they was scared with u? what clan we are?

I don't know if they were scared, but Doritos dissapeared without a word, no "cu", no "g2g", no nothing  ::)

u guys(mods) are alwys comment on games reported as freewin.

Yeah, we comment if we wanna make sure if a player really have a good reason to report it. I said in my first comment that I can show the log where we agreed for 2 games before we started to play. IMHO, that's a valid reason to report a free win.

If Doritos or you said after the first game something like: "sry guys, we must go, can't play your pick, ok?" I would have NOT reported a free win, trust me. But he just left, and no offence beer, that pissed me off.

Respect, cheers.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 05, 2009, 09:26 PM
my internet is fuking slow atm, thats why i wasnt in that game, thats why im not on snp, thats why i crashed 5 times today vs camper to rm a game as u can see in recent played games! i didnt said that u dnt have the right of report this game, u have, just looks bad from a mod, and from a roh player. that what im saing here. evryone from the stff was about remove this «free wins' lol and u report like that.
yea u pissed me off.

 i dnt belive in this league anymore since one mod do this gg
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 05, 2009, 09:34 PM
Don't blame RoH, don't blame TUS, blame me, it was my decision. I wouldn't expect you to act like an insulted kid, I thought you're different than this.

I'll be on tomorrow night, get some players, play this game and we delete the free win, heck, do it without me if you want.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 05, 2009, 09:38 PM
also i thoulgh u're diffr than this. btw noway about delect this.. this must be an example.. and im not blaming roh ur tus, u just shame them acting like that.
i did not insulted you, did i?
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 05, 2009, 09:40 PM
No you didn't, and I never said you did.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Ray on December 05, 2009, 09:57 PM
You are the one referring to sportsmanship and making a good example who reset his statistics just to be able to get high points? ;) Don't act like this beer, this game doesn't stay because Rok is a moderator (I am not before you start insulting me), it will stay (IF it stays) because we had the right to report this.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 05, 2009, 10:32 PM
yes im a good exemple withfree wins, yes im. and u or anyone dnt have nothing with my rank or if i reset it or not, it was an option. we are talking about lamme reported not if i did good or bad reseting my own rank, i did cose i can, like u reported cose u can. im just saing thats lamme, sure u can.
u guys are agains freewins.. thats why im talking here lol
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Ray on December 05, 2009, 11:41 PM
Be pleased, you have your word.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 06, 2009, 03:49 AM
so i cant report a game as free win aftr wait 3 days and asked him to rm many times. https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/game-12701/

so since u both are mod's, u must know that u must try alwys play or games and not report as free win, im not a mod and i understant that bettr then u. my point here isnt a complain to delect this game, but to shame u as mod.
MI just made a theard when we talk about close that supid thing and u use it now.
this shame tus
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 06, 2009, 06:19 AM
@beer,
Ray is not mod.

@Rok
I don't see why you would insist on having a free win, there's no glory in it.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 06, 2009, 10:26 AM
Damn straight, MI, no glory in it. That's why I said we can play the game and delete the free win. Beer, you did the same thing, it was you who started one of the topics about free wins, then one day you reported a free win vs Camperz because he had connection problems, after that you guys rematched and free win was deleted, everybody happy. I'm offering you the same thing and you are flaming me all over the place? Now that's hypocrisy from you.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Ray on December 06, 2009, 11:19 AM
...this game doesn't stay because Rok is a moderator (I am not before you start insulting me)...
Read and understand beer.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 06, 2009, 12:54 PM
first its diferent since im not mod here, so 2 mod talk about delect free wins, or get an other solution, still talk with player to rm theire games and not report as free win, and other mod, come here and report as free win. so diferent rules diferent thinks?thats what im talking about. so how this work? and i reported that games vs camper after 3 DAY, and aftr he refused to play agains me several times. why should we rm now? if u wanted rm this u would not report.

lol @ my karma aftr this game XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

'' Ray: This drama is all about you being a retard and not able to understand what the f@#! we all talk about here. No offence (hopefully).''  lol no at offence, im glad that u arent mod. though u was more man, that little junkiy wannabe. lol
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: chakkman on December 06, 2009, 02:54 PM
Beer, i wonder why you cant understand that Rok played this game as a regular player, not a mod or anything. Hes like a police officer going to a bar while hes not on duty :). That means he has to bow down to any rules of this league, he cant just change some rule to get an advantage for himself or something.

Other thing i dont understand is that in this whole discussion you turn around guilt to your benefit. bor promised roh 2 games and you didnt fulfill your promise. Instead Rok and Ray had to wait for you on ag and you didnt show up. I think the rules are clear in this case. Now we even offer you a rm which we dont have to according to the rules and you still call us lame. More lame imo is not showing up to a game that you promised for what reason ever.

Edit: I also wonder about the way you act for some time now, spamming everywhere, causing bullshit drama like this. That is neither cool nor does it help solving problems, it rather causes some.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 06, 2009, 03:25 PM
no shit, its not drama its a shame. diferent thing, about my spam its nothing with u. if the staff dnt like that just let me know and ill leave this.
about police example, lol, its looks even worst if a police get drunk, he can even lose his job cose of that, get alwys worst penalisation that a normal ppl..
they know that crash couldnt play that game, u dnt know what u are talking about
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 06, 2009, 03:39 PM
they know that crash couldnt play that game, u dnt know what u are talking about

Yeah, Crash said you will play instead him  ::)

and i reported that games vs camper after 3 DAY, and aftr he refused to play agains me several times. why should we rm now? if u wanted rm this u would not report.

Suppose I don't wanna sleep in AG for 3 days and beg you to play? I already said two times I'm ready to rematch, so if you don't want to, fine.

lol @ my karma aftr this game XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

It seems to me that you're making this drama because I don't sing the way you play. Maybe that's why you're karma dropped, I don't know, but it certanly wasn't me who smited you.

about police example, lol, its looks even worst if a police get drunk, he can even lose his job cose of that, get alwys worst penalisation that a normal ppl..

Sure, if you wanna pay us mods every month, then we can stop playing league games and browse this site and mod the league 8 hours/day, for your service.  ::)  Until then, I'm gonna keep playing for fun, like we all do.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: beer on December 06, 2009, 03:48 PM
u only see what u wanna see, this started stinks, and noone wanna talk about my point but other things that dnt matter like my spam etc.
to finish, rok u are like: dnt do what i do, do what i say. mod cant be like that.
im sure that wooka or MI would never report a game like this, dunno why u are a diferent mod. a mod must be an example for evryone, that dnt mean u dnt hf fun, ur u dnt care. lol noone wanna se my point here, in my eyes u shame this league since u are in the staff.
I don't see why you would insist on having a free win, there's no glory in it.

cya
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 06, 2009, 05:05 PM
a mod must be an example for evryone, that dnt mean u dnt hf fun, ur u dnt care. lol noone wanna se my point here, in my eyes u shame this league since u are in the staff.

Sure, I see your point. But you keep refusing to consider my point of view: I play my games as a normal player. I wanna be treated like a normal player, so this game can be complained about or deleted just as any other game, not by me, but by other mods who are not involved.

As for examples, I always play picks of my/my clan's opponents. bOr failed that in this case, you are failing at accepting this fact and that led to this arguing here.

I don't see why you would insist on having a free win, there's no glory in it.

I already said two times I'm ready to rematch, so if you don't want to, fine.

I don't insist, you do.

Cya
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: THeDoGG on December 06, 2009, 05:09 PM
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Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: chakkman on December 06, 2009, 05:34 PM
im sure that wooka or MI would never report a game like this, dunno why u are a diferent mod. a mod must be an example for evryone, that dnt mean u dnt hf fun, ur u dnt care. lol noone wanna se my point here, in my eyes u shame this league since u are in the staff.

That is absolutely laughable, i dont know any1 who would do the mod job better than he does. And thats because he judges rationally without taking party for any1. But as already said this has nothing to do with this game, he cant mod this, other mods will have to do. But if you think he d abuse his power here or something thats just pathetic.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Crash on December 06, 2009, 05:56 PM
EY YO. why did u report that 2nd game?? why bor gonna lose points for game which wasn't played? cmon, I played the wxw and then I tho beer will play 2nd but I was angry after lose and i quit witchout asking beer to play 2nd, so delete this reported game pls, we will rematch this like it should be
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Dulek on December 06, 2009, 06:07 PM
I was angry after lose and i quit witchout asking beer to play 2nd

That's enough for reporting a free win.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: WookA on December 06, 2009, 08:01 PM
sorry i havent responded sooner, i was on a hunting trip for a few days

@beer i really doubt rok would of reported this if your clan m8s simply said "we have to go lets rm this another time" instead of making them wait... i know that u wouldnt like if your opponent left you hanging like that... rok has done alot for this community and has more then proven that hes a fair player, why dont you just rematch? instead of starting a forum battle

@dulek where did u get that quote from? or did u make it yourself?
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Dulek on December 06, 2009, 09:16 PM
From Crash's post. 2nd line.

How's hunting?
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: WookA on December 06, 2009, 09:25 PM
oh i missed that

hunting was fun, but the big one got away -_- wounded
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: Rok on December 06, 2009, 09:34 PM
No dogs to search the blood trail?  :)

What was it?
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: WookA on December 07, 2009, 03:55 AM
there was snow so blood trail wasnt the problem, just knicked it i think... it will probably be fine only was a little blood in the snow and it didnt bed down, was a long shot but id say it was 8 points or better, actually kinda glad i didnt have to drag it it would probably take me 5 hours from where i was lol
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 07, 2009, 01:59 PM
Sorry I wasn't here either. 2 deaths in the family and a cousin in coma, had to go.

@beer,
Rok is the best mod TUS has ever had. (Really no offense to WookA and Ray and ME!!)

@Rok,
Unfortunately a police can never be like normal people. beer's right here but since you're not getting paid [Maybe in the future you will] You have the right to play like normal players and fairly enough your games will be checked by other mods. I am so jealous that I can't play TUS the way I want.

@Fight,
I think it is enough of this fight. You all have seen 'fights' doesn't expand our community, so please for the sake of the community!!

@Topic,
I think I have come to a solution for free wins:
A free win means a debt like your opponent owe you in a period of time. (Say 7 days?)
When you report a free win, the game stands but your opponent have absolute right for 7 days to show up and try to rematch that game.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: wormiverse on December 07, 2009, 02:14 PM
Quote from: MonkeyIsland
Sorry I wasn't here either. 2 deaths in the family and a cousin in coma, had to go.

I'm sorry to hear that...

Quote from: MonkeyIsland
@Fight,
I think it is enough of this fight. You all have seen 'fights' doesn't expand our community, so please for the sake of the community!!

We decleared peace yesterday. The game will be played soon... ;)

Quote from: MonkeyIsland
@Topic,
I think I have come to a solution for free wins:
A free win means a debt like your opponent owe you in a period of time. (Say 7 days?)
When you report a free win, the game stands but your opponent have absolute right for 7 days to show up and try to rematch that game.

That sounds like a solution. :)
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: chakkman on December 07, 2009, 02:52 PM
Im sorry to hear that too Monkey... hope at least for your cousin everything will be good :/.
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: beer on December 07, 2009, 03:35 PM
btw rok is a good mod, yea for me he alwys do a gj! just that free win from him was ;O, nvm! i like him as mod!
evrything is ok yea. <3
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: beer on December 07, 2009, 03:39 PM
about rm, we can do that if RoH want it to, if u guys think thats fair enough lets rm, otherwise, the game should stay.
i dont wanna more waves here cose of that, its ok.
Title: Re: Game #13405, Reported by Rok
Post by: WookA on December 07, 2009, 05:22 PM
sorry to hear about your family MI :(

its good to see u guys handled this, im sure a rm will be easy to do

MI's 7 day idea is a good idea, its atleast a step in the right direction, people might just end up avoiding for 7 days tho its very easy to not answer pms
Rok is the best mod TUS has ever had. (Really no offense to WookA and Ray and ME!!)

omg i quit! lol jk he does do a very good job :)
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: Rok on December 07, 2009, 07:24 PM
@MI: I'm truly sorry for the things you're going thru.

I do regret this fuss a bit, maybe I would've done differently in a similar situation at some other time. But as said, we settled things with each other and we'll play it soon.

Sincerely thanks everybody for your support! (no need to quote, you know what I mean)  :-*
I'll keep trying to do my best and I'll avoid things like that in the future.
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: beer on December 07, 2009, 07:32 PM
nice way rok :)

MI: didnt readed, sorry to hear about ur famaly too, be strong we are with u
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: WookA on December 08, 2009, 06:52 PM
should i delete this before or after the rematch guys?
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: Rok on December 08, 2009, 07:54 PM
Up to you, doesn't matter for me.
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 08, 2009, 07:58 PM
I'll announce the new rule for free wins.

Get the games done. Then delete this one IF you managed to play it.
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: beer on December 08, 2009, 11:53 PM
rematch is done. u can delect and close this.
yea make it MI
Title: Re: 13405, Moved here as a complain
Post by: MonkeyIsland on December 09, 2009, 04:59 AM
Game is deleted.
Solved.