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Leagues => Leagues Complaints => Topic started by: OrangE on March 13, 2013, 09:00 PM
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[2013-03-13 20.53.27] ??? `69`orange is hosting a game on #AnythingGoes named "bfw"
[2013-03-13 20.53.29] ??? Incoming connection on slot 0
[2013-03-13 20.53.30] ??? Player joined: master`69
[2013-03-13 20.53.30] ??? Validated connection: 0, 1, master`69
[2013-03-13 20.53.32] ??? Incoming connection on slot 1
[2013-03-13 20.53.35] ??? Player joined: bfw`dogg
[2013-03-13 20.53.35] ??? Validated connection: 1, 2, bfw`dogg
[2013-03-13 20.53.40] [bfw`dogg] ae guys
[2013-03-13 20.53.43] ??? Incoming connection on slot 2
[2013-03-13 20.53.43] ??? Player joined: bfw`GOOSEY
[2013-03-13 20.53.43] ??? Validated connection: 2, 3, bfw`GOOSEY
[2013-03-13 20.53.44] [`69`orange] buibui
[2013-03-13 20.53.47] [bfw`GOOSEY] honk honk
[2013-03-13 20.53.47] [bfw`dogg] buiiii
[2013-03-13 20.53.59] [bfw`dogg] very pervert clan name
[2013-03-13 20.54.00] • bfw`GOOSEY rustles his feathers
[2013-03-13 20.54.05] [bfw`GOOSEY] yea srsly
[2013-03-13 20.54.13] [bfw`GOOSEY] is this a clanner or an orgy?
[2013-03-13 20.54.18] *master`69* come sei a bng?
[2013-03-13 20.54.18] ??? Incoming connection on slot 3
[2013-03-13 20.54.18] ??? Player joined: seeeeee
[2013-03-13 20.54.18] ??? Validated connection: 3, 4, seeeeee
[2013-03-13 20.54.20] ??? Incoming connection on slot 4
[2013-03-13 20.54.20] ??? Player joined: AG
[2013-03-13 20.54.20] ??? Validated connection: 4, 5, AG
[2013-03-13 20.54.21] [bfw`dogg] xd
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Booting player: seeeeee
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Connection closed: 3, 4
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Player parted or was kicked: seeeeee
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Booting player: AG
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Connection closed: 4, 5
[2013-03-13 20.54.25] ??? Player parted or was kicked: AG
[2013-03-13 20.54.29] ??? Incoming connection on slot 3
[2013-03-13 20.54.30] ??? Player joined: sebhak`dt
[2013-03-13 20.54.30] ??? Validated connection: 3, 4, sebhak`dt
[2013-03-13 20.54.34] [master`69] aspè
[2013-03-13 20.54.38] [master`69] dove prendiamo di +
[2013-03-13 20.54.39] [sebhak`dt] fisrt pick?
[2013-03-13 20.54.43] *master`69* bng, ttrr
[2013-03-13 20.54.44] [bfw`dogg] ye
[2013-03-13 20.54.50] [sebhak`dt] after ur pick
[2013-03-13 20.54.50] [bfw`GOOSEY] yarp
[2013-03-13 20.54.53] [sebhak`dt] we clane =D
[2013-03-13 20.54.57] *master`69* anche wxw
[2013-03-13 20.55.05] ??? Incoming connection on slot 4
[2013-03-13 20.55.05] ??? Player joined: LosPollos
[2013-03-13 20.55.05] ??? Validated connection: 4, 5, LosPollos
[2013-03-13 20.55.07] *master`69* poi roper
[2013-03-13 20.55.10] [master`69] famo
[2013-03-13 20.55.12] [bfw`dogg] who are you ?
[2013-03-13 20.55.15] [bfw`dogg] xd
[2013-03-13 20.55.16] <master`69> bng
[2013-03-13 20.55.18] [LosPollos] me?
[2013-03-13 20.55.21] [bfw`dogg] yes
[2013-03-13 20.55.22] [bfw`GOOSEY] the chicken
[2013-03-13 20.55.23] [master`69] nn sono bravo
[2013-03-13 20.55.24] [bfw`GOOSEY] s
[2013-03-13 20.55.24] [bfw`dogg] you
[2013-03-13 20.55.27] [master`69] però tu lo sei
[2013-03-13 20.55.27] [master`69] ahuau
[2013-03-13 20.55.29] *master`69* k
[2013-03-13 20.55.31] [bfw`GOOSEY] no chickens allowed
[2013-03-13 20.55.36] [bfw`dogg] olo
[2013-03-13 20.55.36] [bfw`GOOSEY] only geese
[2013-03-13 20.55.38] [master`69] we pick bng
[2013-03-13 20.55.38] [LosPollos] i am the one half of the chicken brothers
[2013-03-13 20.55.39] [master`69] you?
[2013-03-13 20.55.39] ??? Connection closed: 3, 4
[2013-03-13 20.55.39] ??? Player parted or was kicked: sebhak`dt
[2013-03-13 20.55.42] [bfw`dogg] i dont bng sorry
[2013-03-13 20.55.52] [bfw`dogg] the only scheme i nver play
[2013-03-13 20.55.53] [`69`orange] what does that mean
[2013-03-13 20.55.57] [`69`orange] i never play t17
[2013-03-13 20.56.00] [`69`orange] but if u pick it
[2013-03-13 20.56.00] ??? Connection closed: 4, 5
[2013-03-13 20.56.00] ??? Player parted or was kicked: LosPollos
[2013-03-13 20.56.01] [`69`orange] i play it
[2013-03-13 20.56.03] [bfw`dogg] ok
[2013-03-13 20.56.05] [bfw`dogg] not me :)
[2013-03-13 20.56.05] [master`69] lol
[2013-03-13 20.56.07] [bfw`dogg] sorry mate
[2013-03-13 20.56.12] [master`69] are u joking
[2013-03-13 20.56.14] [bfw`dogg] nope
[2013-03-13 20.56.15] [`69`orange] ill report this chat
[2013-03-13 20.56.15] • bfw`GOOSEY writes
[2013-03-13 20.56.16] [`69`orange] to mods
[2013-03-13 20.56.19] [bfw`dogg] xD
[2013-03-13 20.56.23] [bfw`dogg] do it man
[2013-03-13 20.56.27] [`69`orange] of course ill do it
[2013-03-13 20.56.31] [`69`orange] u cant avoid a scheme
[2013-03-13 20.56.31] [bfw`dogg] to MI
[2013-03-13 20.56.32] [master`69] so u pick our scheme?
[2013-03-13 20.56.33] [`69`orange] wtf is this
[2013-03-13 20.56.34] [bfw`dogg] in PM
[2013-03-13 20.56.35] [master`69] tell me
[2013-03-13 20.56.40] [bfw`GOOSEY] zzzz
[2013-03-13 20.56.42] [master`69] lol
[2013-03-13 20.56.55] [master`69] you wanna pick every scheme?
[2013-03-13 20.56.57] [bfw`dogg] f@#!in boring scheme
[2013-03-13 20.57.01] [master`69] who cares
[2013-03-13 20.57.04] [bfw`dogg] bye
[2013-03-13 20.57.05] [master`69] i dont like it too
[2013-03-13 20.57.06] ??? Connection closed: 1, 2
[2013-03-13 20.57.06] ??? Player parted or was kicked: bfw`dogg
[2013-03-13 20.57.07] [master`69] bah
[2013-03-13 20.57.10] [master`69] dumb
[2013-03-13 20.57.14] [bfw`GOOSEY] :|
[2013-03-13 20.57.14] [`69`orange] lmfao
[2013-03-13 20.57.20] [`69`orange] im gonna report this chat lol
[2013-03-13 20.57.24] [bfw`GOOSEY] for what
[2013-03-13 20.57.26] [`69`orange] and take a free win
[2013-03-13 20.57.29] [bfw`GOOSEY] yeah right
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[2013-03-13 20.57.30] ??? Player parted or was kicked: bfw`GOOSEY
[2013-03-13 20.57.30] [`69`orange] for avoiding 1 scheme
[2013-03-13 20.57.35] [`69`orange] che froci
[2013-03-13 20.57.36] [`69`orange] uahua
[2013-03-13 20.57.41] [master`69] prendiamo
[2013-03-13 20.57.43] [master`69] punti?
[2013-03-13 20.57.57] [`69`orange] ovvio
[2013-03-13 20.57.57] [`69`orange] uahuha
[2013-03-13 20.57.59] [`69`orange] dipende dai mod
[2013-03-13 20.57.59] [master`69] ottimo
[2013-03-13 20.58.01] [master`69] XD
[2013-03-13 20.58.03] [`69`orange] ag
[2013-03-13 20.58.04] [master`69] vediamo chi c'è
[2013-03-13 20.58.04] [master`69] ag
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[2013-03-13 20.58.06] ??? Session ended
as u can see they refused to play bng and left the game. what are we supposed to do? i think this behaviour isnt fair, and it should be punished in some way.
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Also you can report the game as free win!
I hate t17 but I always play this pick without saying a word to the opponents.
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lol c'mon guys this is not avoiding since I always tell everybody that I don't play BnG, ask cFc we played them just before you.
It's not like we owed you a game, we did not even started.
Rules say that both clan must agree on the 2 schemes before starting the games, if everybody agree then we can do it.
We did not agree on BnG, so we didn't played it ! That's all, end of the story. Find another clan to play. I don't see why you would earn a free win that easily ?
If we had started with our pick, then you woulda pick BnG I woulda play it for sure, otherwise this woulda been REAL avoiding.
I was thinking you were more mature orange!.. running after the points ? heh.
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Masterpallino sucks.
that's all imma say
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lol c'mon guys this is not avoiding since I always tell everybody that I don't play BnG, ask cFc we played them just before you.
It's not like we owed you a game, we did not even started.
Rules say that both clan must agree on the 2 schemes before starting the games, if everybody agree then we can do it.
We did not agree on BnG, so we didn't played it ! That's all, end of the story. Find another clan to play. I don't see why you would earn a free win that easily ?
If we had started with our pick, then you woulda pick BnG I woulda play it for sure, otherwise this woulda been REAL avoiding.
I was thinking you were more mature orange!.. running after the points ? heh.
I don't care about points. I just hate this behaviour. TUS has rules, every clan picks his scheme and opponents can't just decide if playing it or not. Imagine if every clan would act like that. Everyone could avoid Q picking bng or dt picking ttrr. TUS would really suck and competitivity would become pure chaos.
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if you don't like bng, just make sure there's another mate that can play it instead of you, or try convince clans about your problem BEFORE clanners, not after they picked it (and i find this lame too, but whatever).
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That is not avoiding... And the rules do state to agree on maps/schemes befor games start.. No game was played prior to this then the rules were followed.
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DoGG, maybe when they ask for clanner in ag, you can reply with "yes, but not BnG please" and not just "yes" cuz then usually the host goes straight into making a map, it's all ready and setup, then comes to the pre-game lobby to see you guys saying you don't want BnG, it's kind of a let down lol.
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Doggy, you've been playing this game for such a long time now, you should know how it works. There's not just you that dislike BnG (or any other scheme for that matter), if you agree to a clanner you must be prepared to play any scheme that is pickable. I don't enjoy BnG but I still play it if my opponent/clan picks it, and I can say the same about hysteria. Just because you've been around for some time doesn't give you the right to decline a certain scheme. Surprised Mayhem's backing you on this one, I guess he really supports his teammates in every situation which is admirable in a way. Yes Mayhem, I love you
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I'm not proud of the situation, But this is the reason the rules are there.
Thanks Crazy
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I m tired too about clans who are avoiding schemes or wait to play yr pick only if arrive "jesus'chy" to play it instead of "judas'chy".
I don't care, I play everything, even when I am not at my gamestation and I know I cannot rope.
If you think to avoid a scheme, don't look for clanner.
dt right now with Mab, Statik and Sir-j are impossible to beat for us in ttrr, what excuse I should find out??? (plz wait, maybe anubis or barman join us tonight uahuah)
I hate t17, 2 days ago i Have played twice or 3 times in a day, it was fine. I wanted clanners, so I m concious people can pick t17. That's all. It's an all round league.
You are ruining the game avoiding picks.
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It is worth to mention that asking for defaults/rope only clanner is not equal to avoiding. For example, me & sir-j would prefer to play rope schemes and it's not a crime to refuse to play hysteria BEFORE a clanner begins :D
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me & sir-j would prefer to play rope schemes and it's not a crime to refuse to play hysteria BEFORE a clanner begins :D
Yes, but if we pick you play it.
Looking for rope or default clanner is for people without balls.
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Changing pick during the clanner is for people without balls ;)
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There is a rule that you cannot change pick if you have already said what yr pick is..
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In this page we have touched many points, we should add them point per point and put them clear in the rules page: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/basic-info/#107
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Btw, I have found only this rule...
"First, you need to find a partner. Then you decide which kind of league you want to play: Classic or Free. Both of you have to pick one scheme and play those two games. The higher season rating must pick first."
Can you link me where there is what you were saying Dogg?
I just want to have clear, maybe we are wrong if there is the rule you mentioned. But it's not clear about if you accept to play clanner and say "yes" in ag, then it's like avoiding. I think you have maybe to say it before to accept to play the clanner. (even if it's lame as hell).
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well, if u both dont agree on 2 shemes, so its not avoiding i guess. u didnt even started the game so this complain is nothing worth. ano when u became that annoing dude? u confirm to clanner when u light up, and not by picking shemes.
like yesterday, we were askin for def.clanner and you guys accepted it.. we played our game and then u wanted to pick ttrr.. and u started to complain that, whats wrong with u mate?
i think you should get warned and not dog or someoneelse .. coz i see u make the whole problems here. accept oit dude. this league wont change that way u want it to be..
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well, if u both dont agree on 2 shemes, so its not avoiding i guess. u didnt even started the game so this complain is nothing worth. ano when u became that annoing dude? u confirm to clanner when u light up, and not by picking shemes.
like yesterday, we were askin for def.clanner and you guys accepted it.. we played our game and then u wanted to pick ttrr.. and u started to complain that, whats wrong with u mate?
i think you should get warned and not dog or someoneelse .. coz i see u make the whole problems here. accept oit dude. this league wont change that way u want it to be..
1 - I don't like people who don't want to play the scheme I want as MY pick.
2 - I don't think to be annoying in playing every pick you want to play against me and I wanted back the same behaviour.
3 - Yesterday, I was not in ag when you asked for clanners, Sbaffo called me, I came into the host to play yr BNG pick. Then I hosted our pick and I put ttrr (after 1 hour of bng, maybe I had to go out and ttrr is fast), I had not imagined that l3x were avoiding ttrr and I didn't know you wanted and had agreed in playing default clanner (that I find quite lame btw), (even if it's the second time in a week you avoid ttrr, I m not talking about you).
4 - If I ask: "clanner any1?"
JesusChrist: "yes, we do, host up"
So??? right now you have to play my pick!!!
I cannot see any sentence regarding the agreement on the 2 picks. If yes, plz link it to me and I'll get it and I'll respect it.
Is this annoying? A man who play everytime the pick you want? I m offended.
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I am not arguing, I just wanted to read the things you are saying, where they are in the rules?
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blame Sbaffo then, sm0k was asking for default clanner and I don't see why it is "lame". Is it lame if I ask "tus roper ne1"? Maybe there is no sentence about 2 picks agreement, but there is also no sentence about what is lame and what's not.
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is this an all-round league or not?
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Spoiled guys!!!
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Ano, some ppl play just for fun like we do (l3x), we dont care anymore about pooints or standings, we just like to play as team. thats why we asked for def. clanner since no one of us wanted to rope. and nowdays isnt that easy to find serious 2on2 games, thats why clanners are a good way.
if u play this league you have to accept that. and no rules forbide it. whats about u talk with ur mates or they tell you whats going on .. there starts already teamwork in a clan - talk with each ohter.
back to topic. - you agree on a clanner by "light up". not by lookin for clanner a<nd some1 tells you "we clanner". i'm not sure but it stands somewhere. This complain is useless. just stop to be anning and complain evry sh*t.. aef , bwf and we (l3x) alöready dislike you guys.. and 69 is a new clan.. dont u think, u guys make soemthing wrong? its just a damn game to play it for fun. and not to make everyday a new episode of drama. anyway we still ahve to play ur pick, pm us in ag when u see us. i guess gonna be last clanner against you guys till you stop to be annoing, since we look for fun and not problems.
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Calm down Smoke, and don't try the consent about yr issue from the all community.
1 - I don't care about Points too, if not I had not picked ttrr with Sbaffo against you and Nivman but I had waited for Orange as team mate.
2 - I had never imagined to ask Sbaffo if you were avoiding certain picks and don't tell me how to be with my mates.
3 - There is nothing written in the rule about "light up" (try ctrl+F in the page of the rules if you are lazy to read everything)
4 - this complaint is useful, Yes, I agree with you. I am here to solve this issue.
5 - I love playing with Aef and they do, we have never avoided any picks.
6 - 69 is a new clan and so?? I ve played for many years and been in many clans, yrs too. and don't look for the consent of Aef and bfw if you are hurted by yesterday. I m sure I can solve the quesiton with Peja cause I know him and I respect 100%.
7 - it's last pick you will play with us, ok, no problem Smok, we won't cry. And stop to try to sully us as new clan and you want peole going to hate us. L3x is a new clan too.. are you missing us in yr clan??? cause you look like the girl who has been left.
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5 - I love playing with Aef and they do, we have never avoided any picks.
ah ye? thats why peja was that angry yesterday, but ok , u're complety right ;p
the mods gonna explain you the other points, not evrything stands in the rules too. i see, its useless to talk with you since u dont accept mistakes of ur side as well. but whatever, i'm done here.
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- I don't think the things between me and Peja regard you in any way. Again you are looking for the consent of a third person.
- " i see, its useless to talk with you since u dont accept mistakes of ur side as well. "????????
I told you already to link me these rules you are talking about and I'll get them and I'll respect them, can you read me and understand what I write?
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Hey guys C'mon we dont need to have a big argument on here. We have stated our problems and now let have the mods take a look.. There are good points here in each statement, so hopefully something good will be brought of this.
Also BFW does not dislike anyone. We are very passionate when it coms to league and have had our share of complaints. But we are not holding grudges..
Whenever 69 wants to play this pm me and we can get this handled. Thanks
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Ok, I am on to play this pick and I hope this discussion can help for the future.
You can delete it for me.
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ill b on for a while ano, i see u just posted... if i have a m8 ill play this game, i understand its annoying but cmon u know this isnt worth points, nothing was played
and dogg, i dont like bng but i still play it if i have too, its part of the league
edit: i also expect to able to pick a scheme
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talked with ano... i dont have any m8s on and its better for ano to play tommorow, so i guess we will do that
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Both sides have made good points, but The reason people would be choosing bng is because BFWs bng points are the highest(so they would wi. The most points) so IMO a clan shouldn't be allowed to avoid the scheme which the opposing clan would gain the most points from.
The whole reason all these clans pick bng is cause they could win like 60 points from winning bng or like 30 for anything else..
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If you really like BnG then go play gunbound its much more fun ;)
Anyway, I play worms for fun (e.g. I don't mind much about points, but I like serious games tho), and I'm agree with sm0k point of view. Clanner is a good way to play serious 2v2 games ..
But hell, I don't want to lose 1 hour of my time in a ****ing boring scheme just waiting for the game to finish.
It's not even about losing, I like playing RR in clanners, but I lose them all ! It's about the fact that BnG is boring.
I've been playing this game for 12 years now, and never had one league complaint. Usually, I tell people that I don't play BnG and they just say OK let's play another scheme!!
You are the first people that reacted that lame, and make a big drama just for this.
and I am SURE about the rules. We did not start the game so wtf !!!!!!!
I have nothing more to say!
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DoGG, I have no problem with YOU not playing BnG, but an entire clan avoiding a scheme is unacceptable, if you don't have another member who can play it for you, then you should play it without question, it's just selfish the way you acted I think, you should at the very least, say "no bng" before they even host.
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LOL its not a whole clan WTF ! It's just me!!! BFW is ready to play BnG MayheM told it before!
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Yeah but before he agreed that here this situation still happened on WA mate, I meant in future lol :D
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Avoiding rule: (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/3-rule-updates-picking-first-ttrr-exact-times-avoiding-16077/)
If someone is avoiding, you must save screen shots as proof and post them in a complaint thread. Mods will discuss and if they agree, you can report a free win and that gives the avoider one week of time to play that game. In the case of a clan avoiding, only the players online at the time of the avoid can play.
Waiting for a specific lineup before even asking for a clanner is still perfectly okay. Openly asking for clanners but then refusing to play a clan is not okay. If you only want to play a specific scheme/type, you must make this clear when asking for clanners or risk getting an avoid complaint.
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i dont see anything wrong with what dogg did...
he did not want to play the most boring scheme in Worms history, dating back to w2...
does anyone here blame him?
if 2 clans cant agree on 2 schemes, there are other clans to play... there are no rules saying you HAVE to play.
sometimes ill go on AG with nino asking for just elite clanner... if somone says they want to roper, ttrr, bng, etc we will continue looking...
is that a sin?
+1 dogg
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I accept an avoid when a scheme has been played, for example in a 4 games clanner, but in 2 games, it sucks. I hate to play t17, but I always accept to play it as my opponent 1st pick, but I don't wanna play two t17 in a row... actually I always said: new schemes. But that's just part of etiquette...
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Ok, so please mod(s) can you let us know your decision about this ?
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It is a case of disagreement, not avoiding. It would be avoiding if:
- 69 played BFW's pick and then BFW refused playing BnG.
- BFW were asking for clanner but then refusing to play a clan responding to their request.
Since other members of BFW agreed to play BnG, you can set a time and play this game, there's no need to create drama. As for this complaint, the free win is void.
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MI is the voice of wisdom :) :-*
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Thanks MI, we will see you soon 69.
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i dont see anything wrong with what dogg did...
he did not want to play the most boring scheme in Worms history, dating back to w2...
does anyone here blame him?
Well said avi :D lol! I don't agree with the way doggy handled the situation, but I agree that playing a 2vs2 bng is a waste of time if you just don't really like the scheme.
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Yes man, life is too short to lose time like this!
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if its any consolation to the haters, id do the same thing. i only play what i want to play. so if you are hating on doggy dogg, hate on walrus too.