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Title: [SOLVED] bor
Post by: Maciej on August 12, 2009, 10:41 PM
they reported 7 times, when we played 5 + one games was won by us. They reported bng in 2v2 single when it was clanner and they report bng in clanners after lost match with b2p, so they got more points, and wQw lost more! f@#!ING IN ASS CHEATERS! do smth with this!
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 12, 2009, 11:04 PM
xD
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 12, 2009, 11:18 PM
Here is what YOU will do:

- You'll stop screaming f@#!ING ASS BLBALALA everywhere.
- You'll stop making new topics every few minutes.
- You'll peacefuly explain what is troubling you.
- You'll write in a different tone like that:
Quote from: Maciej on August 12, 2009, 10:41 PMdo smth with this!

:) That's it for now, cya tomorrow.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: beer on August 13, 2009, 12:03 AM
ban these fake reporters!
XD
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 13, 2009, 12:46 AM
Quote from: beer on August 13, 2009, 12:03 AM
ban these fake reporters!
XD

<3
Title: Re: bor
Post by: WookA on August 13, 2009, 01:29 AM
Quote from: beer on August 13, 2009, 12:03 AM
ban these fake reporters!
XD

instead of this can u tell us wtf happened? an explanation would be nice
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 13, 2009, 02:18 AM
nothing happened wooka...
Title: Re: bor
Post by: WookA on August 13, 2009, 02:26 AM
so theres no fake games then? did a game get reported for singles that was meant for clanners?
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 06:16 AM
lol nothing happened? Next lie. ok I can say it one more. First of all we played 5 games + 1 game was won by US, so they should report 4 times, not 7. They won elite, lost t17, won roper, won ttrr and won bng (but in his lame method where they kept throwing 4 sec nades still). So why did they report twice roper? Next thing, why did they report hysteria if we didn't play it? They played it with some guy nicked bagzoon, but he is not wqw guy, so he can't play clanners for us and they can't play clanners with him. It's next fake report. Next thing why did they report bng 2 times, in clanners, and in single 2v2, when it was only clanner!? That's all, repair those things.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 13, 2009, 08:24 AM
Quote from: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 06:16 AM
... it was only clanner!? That's all, repair those things.

Once again, this "DO THAT" of yours won't make us do anything. I won't watch 7 replays to try to find wrong ones.
Write down a list of games (with game IDs!) you wish to be deleted.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 10:11 AM
7443, 7442, 7445, 7452 (this last one was played, but was reported too late, becasue before report, they lost bng match against b2p, so they got more points for this win against us, and we lost more by the way. So this last one should be displace before their 2 games against b2p (before game number 7446) and then rating is well. Three first games I named should be remove)
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 13, 2009, 11:01 AM
7442, 7443 and 7445 deleted. Monkeyisland will move 7452.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 13, 2009, 11:26 AM
Moved it.

All teams received their right points.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 11:30 AM
thanks, that's all  :)
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 13, 2009, 11:48 AM
Why has the hysteria bOr won against wQw been deleted!???

This was a fairly won game, bOr didnt fake anything... clans dont fake games, its OBVIOUS and STUPID.

Maciej it appears you are the lamer, you joined the hysteria (which was the last of several games we played together) with the nick "bagzoon", just so that you could claim it was a fake game if we won... thats pathetic.

You do realise you've become one of the biggest clowns of WA dont you?

MI did you delete they hysteria without asking us about it?
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 02:08 PM
ROFL! How could u report game, where didn't play wqw member, bagzoon isn't in wqw. If u think it's me you are wrong. Let MI check the IP, lmao

btw those games were fake, why did u report twice roper, report bng in clanner and in single 2v2, and in hysteria there weren't 2 wqw members, so u can report it in 2v2 single, but I didn't play there.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 13, 2009, 02:44 PM
Nail, your word is as good as Maciej's (for now!), so if he says he didn't play the game and the replay shows some random guy, then I got no reason not to believe him. You can, however, show us a chat log where we can see that bagzoon = maciej.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 03:09 PM
Just try the IP numbers, I think it's not the problem. I know bagzoon, I played with him few times. Why do I remember him? Because he had team called "wQw" what surprised me. I asked if he is or whenever been wqw member, he said "no". That's all. He is not wqw member, so u can't play clanners with him, lol.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Crash on August 13, 2009, 04:11 PM
ok all listen me.
maciej or randapl player and a guy bagzoon[ fake , it was maciej] i said in start of game hf gl clanner, i dont report fake games, wqw no more clanners from now
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Crash on August 13, 2009, 04:15 PM
watch replay hysteria vs wqw, i said "gl wqw" if bagzon would not be maciej randal would say it haha  :D  omg maciej u so newb xDD u wanna trick us? XD!
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Crash on August 13, 2009, 04:16 PM
ban maciej for faking as bagzoon & tryin to cheat
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 13, 2009, 05:14 PM
If Maciej really re-joined the game under nick bagzoon, I'm pretty sure there must be a chat log of you guys being surprised about it or bagzoon explaining that he's maciej or something like that. Post it here or else it stays as it is.

Quote from: Crash on August 13, 2009, 04:15 PM
watch replay hysteria vs wqw, i said "gl wqw" if bagzon would not be maciej randal would say it haha  :D  omg maciej u so newb xDD u wanna trick us? XD!

"gl wqw" could be a smart way to imply the fact you are playing against wQw when in fact you're not, no? :)
Title: Re: bor
Post by: beer on August 13, 2009, 05:40 PM
omg  :o
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 05:42 PM
bagzoon is NOT me, lol, here is the proof, all games I found, where was bagzoon and me at once. Such a shame I don't have the replay, where I was asking bagzoon about his team, which called 'wQw', I guess I deleted it, or maybe it's somewhere here, but I didn't watch them at all.

http://rapidshare.com/files/267009001/Games.rar.html

so shut up crash, stupid moron

+ Randal is completly inactive, he knows nothing about clan things
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Crash on August 13, 2009, 09:24 PM
mod? i want this hysteria reback. why u deleted it? ban maciej ffs
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 11:40 PM
hahaha why do u want this hysteria back?? rofl, it even wasn't clanner. U must play with 2 wqw members to make clanner, not with only one...
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
Quote from: Rok on August 13, 2009, 02:44 PM
Nail, your word is as good as Maciej's (for now!), so if he says he didn't play the game and the replay shows some random guy, then I got no reason not to believe him. You can, however, show us a chat log where we can see that bagzoon = maciej.

If my word is not as good as maciej's then why would you delete the game without proper proof?

People use silly nicks all the time, why would this automatically mean it is a fake game?

If bOr wanted to fake a game, why would they use an unofficial name, doesnt make sense to do that does it? If your trying to FAKE a game...

Bad moderating there.

Quote from: Rok on August 13, 2009, 05:14 PM
If Maciej really re-joined the game under nick bagzoon, I'm pretty sure there must be a chat log of you guys being surprised about it or bagzoon explaining that he's maciej or something like that. Post it here or else it stays as it is.

Not when we AGREED to playing the hysteria 3 games before.

Not when the player also has a POLISH flag.

Not when wQw`Randall shows no reaction to the name change either BEFORE or DURING the game...

Quote from: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 11:40 PM
hahaha why do u want this hysteria back?? rofl, it even wasn't clanner. U must play with 2 wqw members to make clanner, not with only one...

Here, he proves that he is lying about the whole thing and trying to trick away a win.

So he says we only played 1 wQw member, meaning that wQw`Randall was REAL.

Therfore how could bOr fake the game between 4 bOr players if wQw`Randall was real, isnt this blatently obvious?

Why would we bother to fake a game... let alone this badly... -.-

Shame on you maciej, shame on you.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: WookA on August 14, 2009, 02:49 AM
Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AMIf my word is not as good as maciej's then why would you delete the game without proper proof?

there is no proper proof whether or not it was maciej either, and its possible that some1 else decided to interfere(wow on worms who would of thought) and that also doesnt mean it was a bor member... alot of people pretend to be other people... i even remember you faking my name because of things my gf said to you, you have given alot of good points but i wouldnt call that "proper proof" honestly i dont think its possible for solid evidence... unless theres a way to check ip from the replay, which i dont know if its possible

Quote from: Maciej on August 13, 2009, 05:42 PM
bagzoon is NOT me, lol, here is the proof, all games I found, where was bagzoon and me at once. Such a shame I don't have the replay, where I was asking bagzoon about his team, which called 'wQw', I guess I deleted it, or maybe it's somewhere here, but I didn't watch them at all.

http://rapidshare.com/files/267009001/Games.rar.html

i watched those replays and i found them a bit strange, can any of the other players from those games say that they know bagzoon? possibly pr?... he was in most of the games... but i didnt see bagzoon talk too much

@bOr do you have a log or anything to show us? maybe maciej saying he will stay for the hysteria

right now both clans are just asking us to take sides on nuetral evidence, so if u guys cant give us anything better then i think its fairest to void it (no1 loses any points) and either way one of you is just gonna end up yelling at us mods saying we are wrong, which sucks because we are trying to make every1 happy
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 04:38 AM
Check the chat in 7441, here you see we agree to play a TTRR, BnG and Hysteria.

If you can't see what maciej is pulling here despite my post and the chat, then you need your head checking.

Void the game if you want, no1s gonna cry about it...

I havent cried, only argued with logical reasoning.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 14, 2009, 05:58 AM
Why would u report fake games? Because u did 2 games, before. Bagzoon is not me. I saw him yesterday on wn, and I said to crash he is there. What more I found all the replays where we were both. Yes we agreed for 5th hysteria, but after irritaiting bng I left wn. And let's someone checks the IP numers if it's possible, rofl. MI, would you?
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 07:01 AM
Maciej, I saw your pic on wQw site, you look like a good kid, why you behave like devil child?
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 14, 2009, 08:39 AM
I just keep the rules, what's wrong in this?
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Rok on August 14, 2009, 02:29 PM
Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
If my word is not as good as maciej's then why would you delete the game without proper proof?

I said your word IS AS GOOD as maciej's and in this case there's a replay showing 2 bor's playing vs a wQw member and a random guy. That leans the "scale of justice" in this case to maciej's side, no bias in it.

Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AMPeople use silly nicks all the time, why would this automatically mean it is a fake game?

Bad moderating there.

You call it bad moderating before you even present any 'proof' in your favor.

Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
Quote from: Rok on August 13, 2009, 05:14 PM
If Maciej really re-joined the game under nick bagzoon, I'm pretty sure there must be a chat log of you guys being surprised about it or bagzoon explaining that he's maciej or something like that. Post it here or else it stays as it is.

Not when we AGREED to playing the hysteria 3 games before.

How on earth could we know that and does agreening on 3 hysteria games proves anything?

Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
Not when the player also has a POLISH flag.

::) Polish flag, Russian flag, flag of Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, it doesn't PROVE anything! 

Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
Not when wQw`Randall shows no reaction to the name change either BEFORE or DURING the game...

That's why I'm asking you to show us chat log from host lobby, if you have it.
Don't tell me I need to watch chat logs from all games, it's your job to present the facts (like a solicitor in court, eh?  :) )

Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
So he says we only played 1 wQw member, meaning that wQw`Randall was REAL.
Therfore how could bOr fake the game between 4 bOr players if wQw`Randall was real, isnt this blatently obvious?
Why would we bother to fake a game... let alone this badly... -.-

No mod said you faked the game between bOr players. I only voided the game on maciej's request and after seeing the replay.

Quote from: WookA on August 14, 2009, 02:49 AM
there is no proper proof whether or not it was maciej either, and its possible that some1 else decided to interfere(wow on worms who would of thought) and that also doesnt mean it was a bor member...

right now both clans are just asking us to take sides on nuetral evidence, so if u guys cant give us anything better then i think its fairest to void it (no1 loses any points) and either way one of you is just gonna end up yelling at us mods saying we are wrong, which sucks because we are trying to make every1 happy

Word.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 14, 2009, 02:46 PM
As I said, we agreed on 5th hysteria, but after irritating bng, where bor played like lamers, I just left, full of angry. Bagzoon is not me, for more I gave u all replays I have where is me, and this guy at once.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: WookA on August 14, 2009, 08:01 PM
Quote from: Maciej on August 14, 2009, 02:46 PM
As I said, we agreed on 5th hysteria, but after irritating bng, where bor played like lamers, I just left, full of angry. Bagzoon is not me, for more I gave u all replays I have where is me, and this guy at once.

sorry maciej but ditching a league game that you agreed on playing is against the rules even if your mad, bor has the right to have this win, whether the game with bagzoon was played or not

bor can re-report this game... unless monkey can just make it reappear so the order is right
Title: Re: bor
Post by: Maciej on August 14, 2009, 10:50 PM
They can report it then as free win, or we can play it other day, can't we? Because report game with some bagzoon is fake report, because it's even not clanner, no way.
Title: Re: bor
Post by: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 10:54 PM
Quote from: Rok on August 14, 2009, 02:29 PM
Quote from: NAiL on August 14, 2009, 02:10 AM
If my word is not as good as maciej's then why would you delete the game without proper proof?

I said your word IS AS GOOD as maciej's and in this case there's a replay showing 2 bor's playing vs a wQw member and a random guy. That leans the "scale of justice" in this case to maciej's side, no bias in it.

Then why delete the game? There is bias in it, bias in the fact that you have only heard the opinion of ONE side of the argument and then proceeded to make a judgement based a ONE sided argument.

This is undeniably, bad moderating.


Quote from: Rok on August 14, 2009, 02:29 PM
How on earth could we know that and does agreening on 3 hysteria games proves anything?

As wooka has just said, this is sufficient proof for NOT voiding the game...

Seems like you need another "MOD" to tell you something before it's valid, even though I already pointed out the obvious and spoon fed it to you in easy to digest chunks.

"Word"

-.-
Title: Re: bor
Post by: WookA on August 14, 2009, 11:43 PM
nail ur overreacting, bor DID report fake games, so its fair for us to beleive the last one was fake too... instead of bitching at us you should of just given us the log(that i asked for) and it would be over with, instead u gave us a bunch of paragraphs of useless shit to waste our time(along with maciej) it took maciej admitting to leaving himself for u to get your win when u had evidence already

think of ur own mistakes b4 u tell us were modding badly

solved and closed, already wasted enough time on this

edit: rok did help me decide to give you your win back after maciej admitted to leaving... even after u insulted him