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Title: [SOLVED] deleted free wins
Post by: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 01:45 AM
lalo asked me for tus after i asked in ag he said he ll play and than refused to play my pick. senator is just wrong because lukz reports of buffo could have NEVER been made if lukz is in position to say no ty not that scheme nah not that ahhh well f@#! off iam in ag and play others


pizza agreed on playen 2games of tus and said in 10mins after 2rounds played he did not come back.


im complaining about these beeing just deleted
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: TheWalrus on June 13, 2016, 03:02 AM
lalo asked me for tus after i asked in ag he said he ll play and than refused to play my pick. senator is just wrong because lukz reports of buffo could have NEVER been made if lukz is in position to say no ty not that scheme nah not that ahhh well f@#! off iam in ag and play others


pizza agreed on playen 2games of tus and said in 10mins after 2rounds played he did not come back.


im complaining about these beeing just deleted
Wait, let me get this straight - you are complaining about your filed complaints?
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 03:04 AM
sure they say i would abuse the system this nano guy said this and its totally  otherway arround
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 13, 2016, 04:10 AM
@vesuvio,

The case of Lukz and Sbaffo, the moderators gave permission to Sbaffo to report it. In cases of avoiding, you CANNOT just report it yourself, you need to get permission for that first.

- If a player agrees to play TUS with you and then disappears before playing it, you CANNOT report free win. That match never started and cannot be reported.
- If a player plays your pick, but then disappears at his pick, you CANNOT report free win.
- If a player plays his pick but then disappears at your pick, you CAN report free win. But even that free win must be played when that player comes back.

In general we don't appreciate free wins. Free win functionality was put into TUS to stop people reporting with fake replays.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 13, 2016, 09:56 AM
lukz reports of buffo could have NEVER been made if lukz is in position to say no ty not that scheme nah not that

If Lukz had said "I can play only if hyst/elite" to Sbaffo and then accepted all schemes against dibz, that would still have been avoiding imo. You can ask for specific schemes but not change them based on the opponent.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: ANO on June 13, 2016, 12:20 PM
sure they say i would abuse the system this nano guy said this and its totally  otherway arround

n'ANO guy auhauhuaauh
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: spleen17 on June 13, 2016, 12:35 PM
ipod nano
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Lukz on June 13, 2016, 01:51 PM
lukz reports of buffo could have NEVER been made if lukz is in position to say no ty not that scheme nah not that

If Lukz had said "I can play only if hyst/elite" to Sbaffo and then accepted all schemes against dibz, that would still have been avoiding imo. You can ask for specific schemes but not change them based on the opponent.

that is an example, but i did not do that. I ask before to start the game if sbaffo want play without pick ttrr, instead again dibz i accepted the tus and he pick and host quickly his ttrr and I did not have time to ask. I can't understand ur or the community problem with me, I played for years vs players that avoid schemes, like for example Chicken avoiding play rope games.

Also, i'm not afraid of anyone here and sux not have a better English to defend myself xD
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 05:55 PM
thanks for explaining when a free win can be reported. but ur explanation does not include avoiding  but for this you decided buffo gets free wins agaist lukz
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
but ur explanation does not include avoiding  but for this you decided buffo gets free wins agaist lukz

That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player
Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Your complaint about lalo was totally different situation. lalo was looking for tus wxw/bng/roper. Looking for a specific scheme is allowed, that's not avoiding.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 06:57 PM
what a joke what if lukz was in the kitchen to get a fresh lemonade came back into the pc room was like ohh i ask this one for tus and accepted than read buffos and thought well now i arranged with another .

also i think pizza confirmed a tus game with me but refused to play it . and u deleted those games ( i asked if this was ok and i think its not)
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 13, 2016, 07:12 PM
The Lukz case was decided mainly based on the fact that he admitted avoiding but he also met the avoiding criteria.

Yeah what u said is possible, that's why I wrote in the Lukz thread "at least if it happens several times". You can't be in the kitchen each time a particular player asks tus. Again, if an accident happens here, you can play the game. A free win is not a final result.

Afaik u didn't post a complaint regarding pizza to get a permission to report a free win. You can look for tus and then cancel it, though.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: vesuvio on June 14, 2016, 12:25 AM
02:22: vesuvio1> tus ? 
02:22: lalo> I avoid you 
02:23: lalo> please report free win 


lalo sais too
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Lukz on June 14, 2016, 12:27 AM
but ur explanation does not include avoiding  but for this you decided buffo gets free wins agaist lukz

That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player
Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Hey, i didnt the 2 xD i just was answer for tus 
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 14, 2016, 09:08 AM
02:22: vesuvio1> tus ? 
02:22: lalo> I avoid you 
02:23: lalo> please report free win 


lalo sais too

Combine that with lalo looking for tus and accepting tus against other player and u might have a case.

That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player
Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Hey, i didnt the 2 xD i just was answer for tus

The same day u asked me tus in PM, then Sbaffo asked u tus and then u accepted tus against reN :P
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: spleen17 on June 14, 2016, 11:43 AM
02:22: vesuvio1> tus ? 
02:22: lalo> I avoid you 
02:23: lalo> please report free win 


lalo sais too

Hahaha :D
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Lukz on June 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
02:22: vesuvio1> tus ? 
02:22: lalo> I avoid you 
02:23: lalo> please report free win 


lalo sais too

Combine that with lalo looking for tus and accepting tus against other player and u might have a case.

That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player
Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Hey, i didnt the 2 xD i just was answer for tus

The same day u asked me tus in PM, then Sbaffo asked u tus and then u accepted tus against reN :P

I asked u for 2 more, not same that try find any tus

U didnt want to play then ren start to ask for tus on Ag and we decide finish our tus, we play the 1st pick 1 or 2 days ago, pending games has priority

Really i didnt want make more drama for this but sound like that u take decitions whitout to have a complete perpective
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: reN`s on June 14, 2016, 06:15 PM
Lukz Noobasher xD and avoider hahuahaha rlly i cant believe why u guys like the drama its very stupid 1 topic for trying to get a free win xd, rofl guys just play or is better for us win games posting topics? Stop it damn avoiders haha
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Husk on June 14, 2016, 06:19 PM
hmmmmm come to think of it, komo should be 1st in overall standings and me 2nd if posting resulted in wins! xD
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 15, 2016, 09:55 AM
I asked u for 2 more, not same that try find any tus

U didnt want to play then ren start to ask for tus on Ag and we decide finish our tus, we play the 1st pick 1 or 2 days ago, pending games has priority

Really i didnt want make more drama for this but sound like that u take decitions whitout to have a complete perpective

Ok, u only wanted 2 more with me OR finish tus with reN but not a new tus with someone else. Sbaffo started asking 10 mins earlier than reN.

What about the earlier case then? You accepted tus against dibz after ignoring Sbaffo and u admitted that u had seen Sbaffo asking tus before dibz asked. And you didn't change your mind about playing tus in a few mins but u "didn't like to play vs Sbaffo". Avoiding happened and that's it.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Lukz on June 15, 2016, 01:54 PM
I asked u for 2 more, not same that try find any tus

U didnt want to play then ren start to ask for tus on Ag and we decide finish our tus, we play the 1st pick 1 or 2 days ago, pending games has priority

Really i didnt want make more drama for this but sound like that u take decitions whitout to have a complete perpective

Ok, u only wanted 2 more with me OR finish tus with reN but not a new tus with someone else. Sbaffo started asking 10 mins earlier than reN.

What about the earlier case then? You accepted tus against dibz after ignoring Sbaffo and u admitted that u had seen Sbaffo asking tus before dibz asked. And you didn't change your mind about playing tus in a few mins but u "didn't like to play vs Sbaffo". Avoiding happened and that's it.

i am not saying that i didn't avoid him, i told him directly that didn't want play with him , but that is ur only argument to say that i avoid, don't try start to infer other things xD
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Aerox on June 15, 2016, 02:25 PM
That's avoiding, end of it.

It doesn't matter if you avoid because you think you will lose, you hate the guy or you just feel like playing your friend.
Reasons are irrelevant, the outcome is the same, league adulteration based on a player's decision.

It's so simple it's ridiculous there's even an argument. How good you are or how many friends you've managed to make playing worm deathmatches with people online doesn't change this. It was clear from the beginning, there is no need for people to think they actually have a case by letting them repeat themselves over and over.

This person here is just avoiding the possibility of losing against a guy he doesn't want beating him, end of. He also admitted it, so why haven't measured been taken yet? give him a penalty for avoiding, set an example and be done with justice warriors who cannot ignore people on a chat because they're self entitled god believing mental dwarves.
Title: Re: deleted free wins
Post by: Senator on June 15, 2016, 03:26 PM
He was just questioning the evidence of avoiding other than admitting it. A free win was given and they played that game later (also more games after that). vesu came up with totally different cases without understanding the avoiding criteria. Time to close this thread :)