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Title: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: barman on March 01, 2012, 08:01 PM
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/

Reason: wrong scheme.
mm forced SD as usual (starts at 6:10). Suprisingly, there was a nuke explosion (which doesn't occur in the TUS hysteria scheme) and all worms started losing 5 HP per turn. At 7:10, CKC killed my last worm with a bazooka. The shot took 8HP from my worm. Now it's where the problem is - my worm would have had 14HP without the nuke, so it would have survived the bazooka. This kill has changed the game dramatically, we had much more chances with 2 worms alive.

Sorry for retard english, my past tense sucks
Title: Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Devilage on March 01, 2012, 08:31 PM
i'm sexy
Title: Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: MonkeyIsland on March 02, 2012, 08:29 AM
Game's void. According to this (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/tus-schemes/) use of an unofficial scheme without having agreement on it, causes the game to be void.
Title: hysteria vs mm
Post by: WookA on March 02, 2012, 07:05 PM
first of all im not expecting to have the void reversed...

during this game after i realized crash changed the scheme and mm had a problem with it i said to them "if you guys are gonna complain just tell us now" they didnt say anything and continued the game, if they said they had a problem we would have just quit and not finished

i think this is pretty damn lame because they kept on playing and could have won that game, knowing that they just planned on voiding it

also crash didnt see the thread and re-reported so void it again please

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102674/

i no longer have any respect for you barman... u made your clan look like a bunch of bitches
Title: Re: hysteria vs mm
Post by: Crash on March 02, 2012, 07:09 PM
mm we will not clanner you anymore if you agree to DELETE THIS GAME, i played cus I hf with u guys,it had to be fast clanner just for u, n1 barman, i tho u was cool
so the decide is for u mm, i don't care barman's complain, if u complain after u lose a game you're just a little *****nvm
Title: Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Statik on March 02, 2012, 07:15 PM
What's the point of the topic? MI said wrong scheme = void. Also we didn't know what to expect from this scheme, because our tactic is still in beta, now we see it works badly with poisoned worms :)

Also don't blame barman. He just posted this complaint, all other mm's agreed...
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: WookA on March 02, 2012, 07:17 PM
the point of the topic was to void the new report from crash....

and ok its not barman, your whole clan made mm look like a bunch of bitches.... better?
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Rok on March 02, 2012, 07:18 PM
I merged the two threads together and unlocked in case mm wants to defend their honour.
Any irrelevent posts from third-parties will be deleted.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Statik on March 02, 2012, 07:21 PM
Quote from: WookA on March 02, 2012, 07:17 PM
and ok its not barman, your whole clan made mm look like a bunch of bitches.... better?

sure, what next? Personally I don't care about your opinion about mm, also I don't care about this hyst game, you can take the win. I just wanna say this complaint was reasonable...
Title: Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Crash on March 02, 2012, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Statik on March 02, 2012, 07:15 PM
What's the point of the topic? MI said wrong scheme = void. Also we didn't know what to expect from this scheme, because our tactic is still in beta, now we see it works badly with poisoned worms :)

Also don't blame barman. He just posted this complaint, all other mm's agreed...


statik dude, and all mm guys u live in worms or in the real world?

wanna use the rule about usin the right scheme to win games against us like THAT? ahah,that's ridicious isn't it
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: avirex on March 02, 2012, 07:53 PM
wooka, its not like nothing was said when you asked if we will void the game.. (obviously you knew then the game should have been voided)


i said it will be up to barman and statik... and we were not sure at that exact moment...


after that game mm was in a ttrr match, and we were discussing if that game should be voided....

we decided that if your bazooka shot would have been kill regardless of the sd infection, then we would consider the game a loss...

we watched the played and barman was at 14hp before all worms got sick, your zook did 8 damage..

barman should not have died from that single shot, and that would have changed the entire results of the game...

so its not like we just made a complaint just to reverse the win... we put thought into it, and made a valid complaint... if you want to see the replay of the ttrr, and read our conversation, you can.

wooka all ready knew before the game even ended, that it should be voided...

the rules say we have to finish all games before making a complaint, and thats exactly what we did...

i guess the only thing that was lame about any of this, is you altering the scheme in sudden death, perhaps its because you knew what mm's tactic would be....   you cant alter a scheme to fit your needs crash, and then think its lame when a complaint is made...

f@#! off you



edit: here is the replay
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Crash on March 02, 2012, 08:41 PM
well if it was po or match for real gold, but no it was just hysteria clanner, you f@#!ed up
now u can write explainations by hours, everyone from tus know that the thing u did is simply gay..
hah
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: WookA on March 02, 2012, 09:03 PM
all i can say is dont expect the common decency that we will show other clans...
dont f@#! up or we will take advantage of it.... eye for an eye can be a bitch

crash next time say something if u want to change the scheme, u didnt even tell me your partner... if i knew the first thing i would of done was tell mm it was different

mm if u knew it should be voided you shouldnt of gone on trying to win it, simple as that

i think this has had enough bullshit over it, probably best to lock this
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Devilage on March 02, 2012, 11:06 PM
well man, I call for not voiding, yes mm kept playing, yes we tried to win, yes it was crash mistake, by common sense, u should agree on the void, since we realized that 14 hp worm would live with that zook u made, game would be damn different if crash(noob hosted) wouldnt have set that pity wrong scheme, don't call mm as lames, because we gave u enough reasons for this complaint, game changed a lot after that nuke man, and yes mods always say finish the game before complaining, and we obviusly will want to win the game, because we play serious, what did u want us to do, just surrender, u would rage because u were winning,what if we quitted or surrender after u killed barman? u would call us lame and shit, if u rly think it's too lame, u can take the win CKC. Just say it here, I think mm will support me.

But ftr, we realized about this 14 hp to 8 hp on the rrtt that avirex uploaded, if anyone to blame about this lame shit, it's crash.
Title: Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Devilage on March 02, 2012, 11:11 PM
Quote from: Crash on March 02, 2012, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Statik on March 02, 2012, 07:15 PM
What's the point of the topic? MI said wrong scheme = void. Also we didn't know what to expect from this scheme, because our tactic is still in beta, now we see it works badly with poisoned worms :)

Also don't blame barman. He just posted this complaint, all other mm's agreed...


statik dude, and all mm guys u live in worms or in the real world?

wanna use the rule about usin the right scheme to win games against us like THAT? ahah,that's ridicious isn't it



everyone knows we don't need to do that crash, just check our stats against yall or this https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102558/ ;D
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: TheKomodo on March 02, 2012, 11:14 PM
WookA, I ain't exactly avis biggest fan or vice versa, he is 100% correct with pure logic, and you don't have a valid reason to call anyone lame here...

Most importantly, this part he said:

Quote from: avirex on March 02, 2012, 07:53 PM
the rules say we have to finish all games before making a complaint, and thats exactly what we did...

In my honest opinion, I think CKC are the ones being slightly lame here, and the only reason I say that is nothing personal, but because of pure logic that mm are correct, they followed the rules, rules must be obeyed.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: WookA on March 02, 2012, 11:23 PM
i said in my first post that i didnt want it to stand, i just thought if i asked them if they were gonna make a complaint id get an answer....

answer = wouldnt report the game in the first place = no complaint = no bullshit

i wont be around this whole season, great i get to play with great sportsmans like urselves

guys this should be closed, games are gone... i posted just to delete crashes 2nd report and spoke my mind a bit
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Devilage on March 02, 2012, 11:27 PM
u cant ccall us lames, and then expect us not to reespond, even rok said it.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: barman on March 02, 2012, 11:51 PM
I still do not understand CKC's point.
You used a non-standard scheme. Unfortunately it's given you a huge advantage because of the undeserved kill. Having two worms instead of one results in a lot bigger chances in sudden death. I think it's quite natural for us to complain about the outcome of the match.
We did not respond to your question immediately because we were simply not sure about how much did that bazooka shot change the game.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: WookA on March 02, 2012, 11:54 PM
whatever im not spending any more time on this, i barely even have the time to play... so uhhh bye
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: avirex on March 03, 2012, 12:07 AM
wooka, what dont you get here???

i showed you the ttrr about us deliberating if we would complain or not...


and as komo said, our complaint is very reasonable.....   

if we rushed right here and made a complaint as soon as you reported, it would still be fine, and the game would still be void... but then maybe you can call it lame

but then when you take into consideration the ttrr replay i posted of us in a game talking about the hysteria match, and you see we all agreed to view the replay, and see if the kill on barman changed things before we complain, its really not that lame at all, now is it???



Quote from: Crash on March 02, 2012, 08:41 PM
well if it was po or match for real gold, but no it was just hysteria clanner, you f@#!ed up
now u can write explainations by hours, everyone from tus know that the thing u did is simply gay..
hah

seems like most people agree with mm, and think it was a valid complaint...  and i think the way we went about it was professional, and fair.....  is this where i say "hah" ?
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: TheKomodo on March 03, 2012, 03:14 AM
Quote from: WookA on March 02, 2012, 11:23 PM
answer = wouldnt report the game in the first place = no complaint = no bullshit

WookA, you can't ask someone a question, without receiving an answer, and assume they answered the way you wanted.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: barman on March 03, 2012, 11:46 AM
Quote from: WookA on March 02, 2012, 11:54 PM
whatever im not spending any more time on this, i barely even have the time to play... so uhhh bye
Way to end a discussion... "ran out of arguments, better get outta here"
By the way CKC, I hope you remember that we are supposed to play the playoff semis today... we shall meet on #AG at 20:00 GMT if you decide not to boycott us after all
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Dub-c on March 03, 2012, 03:00 PM
Quote from: barman on March 03, 2012, 11:46 AM

Way to end a discussion... "ran out of arguments, better get outta here"


I know English isn't your first language, but, nowhere in his post did he say anything that even reflected what you quoted. Perhaps you should learn how quotations work and not put words in other people mouths.

Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: avirex on March 03, 2012, 05:08 PM
i think he was using the quotations as a thought bubble referance....

duh


see you in playoffs

ps: cant believe this thread is stil open huahuahah
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: WookA on March 03, 2012, 07:00 PM
Quote from: avirex on March 03, 2012, 05:08 PMps: cant believe this thread is stil open huahuahah

my only point, u guys r talking like you didnt get to respond, i guess 2 pages of drama isnt enough, keep going gj.... i wont be playing in the playoffs today, too much liqour and mushrooms yesterday

edit: might end up playing after all :O
Title: Re: [SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102546/
Post by: Rok on March 03, 2012, 10:02 PM
This is going nowhere.

Locked.