Firstly, we was about to play clanner with CAT. We pickd wxw , and the story goes on. It's not the first time that CAT is refusing to play at our map . It's becoming really irritating ,If your opponent refuse map beacuse it's too hard for him. I can understand it, if it wouldn't be 5,10,15 time when they don't want to play our "hard" map. Why we always need to agree with them for map? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take free win for this game I just want to take this stupid "agreement for map" rule away.
Also I would like to add to kyho's post, CAT know there is another rule of higher rating must play their pick 1st, they use this to their advantage, they force us to pick 1st so they can refuse if we pick TTRR or WxW with a map too hard for them, forcing us to pick something they prefer to play, THEN when it is THEIR pick 2nd, they will pick shoppa, and use the same maps again and again (We always have to play their stupid shoppa maps and we can't refuse because we already played our pick...). They will never play their pick 1st because they know they cannot keep refusing different maps we pick for WxW/TTRR/Roper.
Please do something to stop this... No clan should be allowed to abuse the League this way...
lmfao
When Swist played with Peja so they picked good map not easy but not hard. When Swist play with Kyho.... (btw. last time Kyho's behave is like girl in menstruation) so allways hard maps.... (we don't like maps by Berria & Barman) Ok if you really wanna so we can surr in1 st turn and you will have your 20 points....
When some1 wana to I change map so ok I change (last time in tus shoppa with prince i showed him 6 maps) but they never asked about change maps..... ::)
Higher raiting hmmm ever aef wanted play clanenr with us but they already played 1 clanner so komo wanted play their pick 1st and showed me this rule (he wanted win their pick1 stly and later barman + some1 else our pick coz he was scared to play our pick 1stly).... so if he can so why me not ?! rules are same to everyone....
yesterday dt refused to play clanner with aef coz aef wanted pick bng and komo + barman - ok we accepted everything was ok, we lost - ok np.... but today thay has problem to chgange f@#!ing map to easier.....
Quote from: Chelsea on June 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
(btw. last time Kyho's behave is like girl in menstruation)
XD
Quote from: Chelsea on June 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
so allways hard maps.... (we don't like maps by Berria & Barman)
Always hard maps, beacuse I enjoy hard maps , and swist enjoy hard maps too. Playing on such easy maps just don't give me enough fun.Why the hell we need to play on your map, If it is our pick?
Quote from: Chelsea on June 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
When some1 wana to I change map so ok I change
"I can understand it, if it wouldn't be 5,10,15 time when they don't want to play our "hard" map."
Quote from: Chelsea on June 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
today thay has problem to chgange f@#!ing map to easier.....
Yes it is a problem . We changed our wxw maps to easier specially for you many times in previous clanners coz u refused to play harder ones. It can't last forever.
I must apologise for the way I acted to dt last night, they normally play BnG with us, I was in one of those moods...
CAT we are angry with you because you refuse so many times, in order for us to play clanner with you it ALWAYS has to be on YOUR terms and that isn't fair.
We have lost so many shoppers to your clan because you get 1st turn & better weapons, like, it always seems you get cluster bombs etc... Why should we now risk the same thing in WxW, WxW is supposed to be about roping skill not just who gets 1st turn and better weapons.
You want easier map because you want better chance to win, why don't you practise harder maps and increase your skill, and then in future CAT will become a better / stronger team and you will have more pride and more respect.
I just dont like play easy wxw maps coz this doesnt give me fun. Even when i play with some1, who can't roping i pick hard map becasue I like it. When I played with peja I chose easier one becasue he's not pro in wxw and he wasnt my opponent(then i would choose berria or smth xd), just teammate, so i couldnt pick hard map.
Quote from: Komito on June 20, 2013, 12:50 PM
We have lost so many shoppers to your clan because you get 1st turn & better weapons, like, it always seems you get cluster bombs etc...
I'm sorry coz we are lucky xD
Quote from: Komito on June 20, 2013, 12:50 PM
Why should we now risk the same thing in WxW, WxW is supposed to be about roping skill not just who gets 1st turn and better weapons.
In wxw we have weapons at start. So we can't win by luck.
I hate hard maps coz after 3 fails in 4 first turns i'm angry and i wanna surr.... ok, if u wanna play with us wxw at hard maps -> ok but it's NOOB BASHING ! :P
Chelsea, why don't you try to become better then? You are a guy who wants to become better no?
If I had the time, I would practise Elite/T17/TTRR alot more, but I don't so I can't...
How can you accept BnG against me/barman, but not WxW? It's almost the same thing lol...
You DO have the skill to win WxW, you just don't believe in yourself.
I just don't like rope schemes xD I don't have fun in them... I prefer defaults. Free hates hyst, i don't like rope schemes xD
same like Swist hate t17 xD
Some of us don't like playing T17/Elite, we still do it...
CAT: Chelsea Avoiding TUS
Quote from: Komito on June 20, 2013, 12:18 PM
Also I would like to add to kyho's post, CAT know there is another rule of higher rating must play their pick 1st, they use this to their advantage, they force us to pick 1st so they can refuse if we pick TTRR or WxW with a map too hard for them, forcing us to pick something they prefer to play, THEN when it is THEIR pick 2nd, they will pick shoppa, and use the same maps again and again (We always have to play their stupid shoppa maps and we can't refuse because we already played our pick...). They will never play their pick 1st because they know they cannot keep refusing different maps we pick for WxW/TTRR/Roper.
Please do something to stop this... No clan should be allowed to abuse the League this way...
You guys did the exact same shit to us last season lol..
" YOU GUYS HAVE HIGHER POINTS SO YOU NEED TO PICK 1ST ITS RULZ" LOL hypocrites
We didn't avoid your pick though lol, which is the whole point of this...
So no, we are not hypocrits ;)
just an idea but maybe lets ban map refusing. But also put a limit to using same map per season. For example if its your pick, you can pick map A only twice per season. (Opponent can pick map A twice if its his/her pick. If both pick, no limit) So there wont be no map-raping or map-avoiding.
Quote from: Triad on June 20, 2013, 09:00 PM
just an idea but maybe lets ban map refusing. But also put a limit to using same map per season. For example if its your pick, you can pick map A only twice per season. (Opponent can pick map A twice if its his/her pick. If both pick, no limit) So there wont be no map-raping or map-avoiding.
I agree with that just check if it is player pick and if the map has been picked already 2 times during the season (common I'm sure there are enough shoppa map) and if it is the case disable the report. Easy, make people play on new map which extend the diversity and also promote shoppa map making and so and so.
thats why its way better to play shoppers in cave maps.
I have to add here, just a question to the moderators, if I want to play my pick (team17 or elite) in an edited map, just edited not saved one, can I do it? I mean what if my opponent wants a non editted one?
stupid idea....
In last seaosn I played 27 shoppas in single and 26 in clanners.... so I need 27 maps lol..... caves in shoppa sucks....
Quote from: Chelsea on June 21, 2013, 07:05 AM
stupid idea....
In last seaosn I played 27 shoppas in single and 26 in clanners.... so I need 27 maps lol.....
Yes. There are hundreds of good shopper maps.
I played 19 shoppers in season 28 and never played on the same map twice (just checked) :o
I have 155 good shoppa map in my UC Rope Pack. All tested and all good. So i can play 155 shoppa with diffrent map, 310 shoppa with using maps twice. Tho i dont even play 100 games in a season xD (neither free or classic)
What exactly is so hard about the concept of honour anyways ? This is just a game...Not some kind of mayan tournament where the loser had to sacrifice one of their members to their gods..There are no real consequenses..Just play.
On another note shoppa should simply be banned..It is used far to common by those hoping the dice will roll in their favour.
bump on this topic, anyone else is interested in limiting the number of picked game on same map ?
Hmm yes.. TUS should take some attention on important requests like this one, the abuses are so strong and obvious, mods has to do something fast and soon. ;)
Yes. For example
https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-9541/
Quote from: Triad on June 26, 2013, 11:56 AM
Yes. For example
https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-9541/
https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-2930/ :D
Lol 90% of that map is chelsea playing... noob xD
Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2013, 02:26 PM
Lol 90% of that map is chelsea playing... noob xD
not 90 but 99,2 noob....
was 100% but Daina beated Peja at this map.....
Not something to be proud of ;)
Quote from: Komito on June 26, 2013, 02:37 PM
Not something to be proud of ;)
I'm really proud od it :D if you add tus games + funners + WO games + FTM tourneys so will be more than 250 games at this amazing map !
Quote from: Chelsea on June 26, 2013, 02:40 PM
I'm really proud od it :D if you add tus games + funners + WO games + FTM tourneys so will be more than 250 games at this amazing map !
*slap*
You seriously need to be kept under control, you are one of the worst "loophole" cheaters i've ever seen in my life.
Something MUST be done about this sort of behaviour/attitude in TuS, it's a shame to this great game/League...
comlplainted
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/banning-map-raping-21200/
Quote from: Devilage on June 21, 2013, 05:47 AM
I have to add here, just a question to the moderators, if I want to play my pick (team17 or elite) in an edited map, just edited not saved one, can I do it? I mean what if my opponent wants a non editted one?
edit: sorry didn't see u only asked for mods' opinion
Quote from: Husk on June 28, 2013, 09:28 PM
edit: sorry didn't see u only asked for mods' opinion
well if you were gonna give me a solution, or show me any rule we have bout it, then go on huzk
it was just a speculation, so that's not worth much =)
Quote from: Devilage on July 01, 2013, 03:52 AM
Quote from: Husk on June 28, 2013, 09:28 PM
edit: sorry didn't see u only asked for mods' opinion
well if you were gonna give me a solution, or show me any rule we have bout it, then go on huzk
Something extra ordinary for hedonistic minds:Common sense and consideration for other people ! That is the sollution...Ofc there is nothing wrong with using an edited elite map..But if you have some opponent that nags about it just change it. No need to have rules for that decent people know how to handle such situations.