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Title: [SOLVED] Prince_Egypt
Post by: Casso on June 25, 2013, 10:14 PM
This isn't the first time that I open a thread like this but I'm really tired of this behavior.

I asked Prince to play HAL many times but he continues to avoid me and promptly he host a game against someone else. This has already happened 5-6 times.

He doesn't ask to play HAL on Wormnet but he send private messages to all players that aren't very good. This happens for every tus league obviously. Let's see the list of prince's opponents:

fayaz572 (20 games)
Rage (20 games)
j0hny (11 games)
piki1802 (10 games)
SoulCreator (9 games)
Reeko (7 games)
Gore33 (5 games)
ZexorZ 4 games)
Mega`Adnan (4 games)
Farco (3 games)
Blindside
harpy (3 games)
Chelsea (3 games)
Juubi (3 games)
mlvn (3 games)   
Jago (2 games)
Triad (2 games)
DENnis (2 games)
LeTotalKiller (2 games)   
Charlye (1 game)
Fn´VoK (1 game)
reN`s (1 game)   
luishero (1 game)

He played 95% of games against players who aren't good in Hysteria or Aerial.
about the remaining games played against experienced players (6 games) he won only 1 game.

Today I decided to deceive him: I asked him to play HAL and, after his rejection, I quitted. 2 minutes later I joined with the nick "SoulCreator" because he had already played against him 9 times, and I waited in AG. After less than 2 minutes he asked me to play HAL and I accepted with my false nick. When he discovered that it was a trap he invented that he had to play another game so he quitted.

Here the log:

PRIVATE MESSAGES (with SoulCreator)

Quote
[23:29:12] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] hellowwww
[23:29:33] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] Hiii :D
[23:29:38] -> [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] hi
[23:29:48] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] lets hal *_* ?
[23:29:57] -> [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] ok, who hosts ?
[23:30:01] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] me

In the host I told him that I was Casso and not SoulCreator so he kicked me

Quote
[23:32:43] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] that game error
[23:32:43] [jot`CAT] poor prince
[23:32:47] [RoH`Casso] hey I report you
[23:32:49] [CAT`Chelsea] wtf small kid ?
[23:32:50] [RoH`Casso] if you don't play
[23:32:58] [jot`CAT] say that
[23:32:59] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] k
[23:33:00] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] k
[23:33:00] [RoH`Casso] I joined with a fake nick
[23:33:04] [RoH`Casso] and you asked me to play
[23:33:10] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] i don't asking
[23:33:10] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] :D
[23:33:12] [jot`CAT] you always avoid the games xD
[23:33:14] [RoH`Casso] I was SoulCreator xD
[23:33:19] [CAT`Chelsea] he is f@#!ing avouder like all in egypt :D
[23:33:21] [dt-avirex] hahha
[23:33:22] [RoH`Casso] and you asked me in pm
[23:33:25] [RoH`Casso] to play
[23:33:31] [RoH`Casso] so let's play
[23:33:32] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] anyway i wait for play darts :p
[23:33:37] [CAT`Chelsea] hahahhahahaha
[23:33:42] [RoH`Casso] do you host, or me ?
[23:33:43] [jot`CAT] hahahahhahah!
[23:33:43] [CAT`Chelsea] faraon called him to piramyde
[23:33:58] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] i will be playing darts :P
[23:33:59] [SoulCreator] join Casso
[23:34:01] [CAT`Chelsea] he need to feed cammels
[23:34:08] [SoulCreator] no, you must play against Casso
[23:34:12] [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] :P
[23:34:13] [CAT`Chelsea] sfinks is hungry too
[23:34:15] [RoH`Casso] true
[23:34:42] [RoH`Casso] hey really
[23:34:45] [RoH`Casso] I open a complaint
[23:34:46] [CAT`Chelsea] ang kadafi is angry xD
[23:34:52] [RoH`Casso] this is the 6th time
[23:34:55] [RoH`Casso] i ask u to play
[23:35:10] [RoH`Casso] and you still ask in pm
[23:35:12] [RoH`Casso] to play
[23:35:14] [RoH`Casso] against noobs
[23:35:19] [CAT`Chelsea] he is avoider like kadafi !!! and he will finnish like kadafi !!! die avoiders !
[23:35:19] [jot`CAT] hahahahhaah
[23:35:21] [jot`CAT] as always :D
[23:35:23] [RoH`Casso] this time one of those noobs was me
[23:35:28] [RoH`Casso] with another nick xD

You invent really funny excuses but this time they won't be enough to save your ass ;)
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Gabriel on June 25, 2013, 10:16 PM
Amazing work
burn him til death
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: rU` on June 25, 2013, 10:24 PM
2 minutes later I joined with the nick "SoulCreator" because he had already played against him 9 times, and I waited in AG. After less than 2 minutes he asked me to play HAL and I accepted with my false nick. When he discovered that it was a trap he invented that he had to play another game so he quitted.

Here the log:

PRIVATE MESSAGES (with SoulCreator)

Quote
[23:29:12] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] hellowwww
[23:29:33] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] Hiii :D
[23:29:38] -> [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] hi
[23:29:48] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] lets hal *_* ?
[23:29:57] -> [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] ok, who hosts ?
[23:30:01] <- [fS`Pr1nCe2013`] me

lol
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: zippeurfou on June 25, 2013, 10:35 PM
It reminds me when I played something like 13 hysteria game straight against him and won something like 11 and he told me something like: "If I don't report, you don't report ok ?".
Since I'm soo lazy I agreed even if it is a bit against the rule... wayy to tiring to check in all the game which one I lost.
Point is, he didn't avoid me this day but to be honest you could put me in the noob list :D.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 25, 2013, 11:02 PM
It reminds me when I played something like 13 hysteria game straight against him and won something like 11 and he told me something like: "If I don't report, you don't report ok ?".
Since I'm soo lazy I agreed even if it is a bit against the rule... wayy to tiring to check in all the game which one I lost.
Point is, he didn't avoid me this day but to be honest you could put me in the noob list :D.
Omg I don't said anything same that
 I am Sure u said lets don't report lets don't u said that i am sure
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Casso on June 25, 2013, 11:06 PM
I think that Prince learned the lesson. I point out these behaviors because they may ruin TUS league.

I hope that it won't happen again :)
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 25, 2013, 11:14 PM
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Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Chelsea on June 26, 2013, 10:55 AM
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Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Triad on June 26, 2013, 11:45 AM
when i ask tus or tus free, he ask what i gonna pick first. For example when i say Big RR in tus free, or wxw in tus classic. He says no thanks or say pick another one.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 01:18 PM
when i ask tus or tus free, he ask what i gonna pick first. For example when i say Big RR in tus free, or wxw in tus classic. He says no thanks or say pick another one.
Ye triad I asking what problem  Guyz there rules in site said play with all players ? !!!!!
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 01:31 PM
Leagues Rules
1) General Rules, Behavior

    Spamming is disallowed in the games and also on our site. You may not fluster your opponent by writing pointless materials constantly.
    Insulting other players, people is always disallowed in games and also on our site.
    As there might be some players under the age of 18, no sexual content may be uploaded or shown on the site.
    No racial or any other discrimination is allowed on our site or in the games. Any behavious like that will be highly penalized.
    Cheating by any program is highly forbidden. Anyone caught on cheating may be banned for the whole season (at the moderators discretion).
    Noone may use alias and ask for league games under alias or claim one's Cup or Tourney game under alias. Getting caught with aliasing results banning (at the moderators discretion).
    Registering double accounts is forbidden, results banning.
    No graves or teamnames may be used that might confuse the opponent.
    You can play the same opponent 15 times in the same season in the same league. Report page will give you an error if you try to report more games.
    The schemes have their own set of rules, which can be found in the description of the official league schemes. They can be found here: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/
    You must use the official schemes found on the schemes page. If you host and use the incorrect scheme without telling them, your opponent has the right to replay the game with the correct scheme.


2) Lag-outs

    If one player lags out and returns to the given channel, the game should be continued with handicap or restarted.
    If a game is lagging, do not quit. Quitting means you surrender. If a game lags out, let it lag out.
    If a player lags out and is not seen online 10 minutes later, then the game is taken care of by the following rules:
    If it was the first game, then the game should not be reported, rather played at another time.
    If it was the second game and the loser of the first game was seemingly losing the second game too, it can be reported. At any other occasion the moderators will decide about the outcome of the game, after it is posted to the forum's League Complaints section.
    Moderators will never decide about the outcome of a game considering the skills of the players. Always the state of the game is what the moderators consider.


3) Quitting

    Quitting a game before it ends means you forfeit the game. There is only one exception to the rule: if your opponent chose the wrong scheme without informing you. Before you quit, you must point out the scheme is incorrect and that you want to replay the game with the correct scheme.
    If a player returns to the channel but does not want to continue the game, then the quitting player's opponent automatically wins.
    Only acceptable way of quitting is if the quitting is reasonable and the quitting player agrees with his/her opponent on playing the game another time.
    Mostly the moderators will consider the state of the game, the way of the quitting, how the conversation went on and also the number of the game (first or second) and then decide about the outcome of the game(s).
    Lag-outs and Quittings that could not be solved between the two players must be posted to League Complaints.


4) Proceeding

    First, you need to find a partner. Then you decide which kind of league you want to play: Classic or Free. Both of you have to pick one scheme and play those two games. The higher season rating must pick first.
    Before the first game start, both of you have to tell what your username on the site is. Missing to do this might have your games infirmed.
    After you finished the games, and the games result is 1-1, you can agree on playing a third game.
    EVERY GAME MUST BE REPORTED! This means DoN (Double or Nothing) games are highly forbidden!


5) Reporting

    Winner of a game reports his own game. Losers do not need to confirm anything.
    The game must be reported within 6 hours after the game was played. Otherwise mods decide to keep the game and correct its order or delete it.
    Loading up a fake replay is obviously forbidden. Getting caught with this results in banning.


6) Playoffs

    Playoffs are played between the first eight players of the leagues' total stats, and only those get in who played the required minimum games. Playoffs are basically a smaller tourney and the site generates the pairs automatically.
    You must play at least 80 games in the season to get in to the Playoffs for classic league. (70 games for clans), 50/20 for TEL and TRL and 30/5 for Free league.
    Each round of the playoffs stand of 5 different picks. The players pick schemes by turns and the higher ranked player has the advantage of picking first.
    Deadlines are usually posted on the forums by the moderators, based on activity at the moderators discretion.
    Any player or clan who fails to finish their playoff games and is kicked out will be disqualified from the next playoffs of that league. After that, they are free to qualify again.

That Its rules League tell me rule said playy with all players ? maybe i can't find o_o
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: barman on June 26, 2013, 01:33 PM
Some TUS rules are spread all over the announcements forum ;)
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/3-rule-updates-picking-first-ttrr-exact-times-avoiding-16077/

Note it doesn't say you HAVE to play against everyone, but refusing to play against someone multiple times without a reason is not a good thing to do.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 01:35 PM
Barman That rule if player play tus  "him Pick" and avoid other pick that rules Still find that rule :P






Brb take shower and coming follow that shit huaahuahhahau
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: piki1802 on June 26, 2013, 02:06 PM
That avoiding thing is true, remember though, in classic leugue, Princy-Egypty is still in minus against me xD.

Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 02:45 PM
K now all players speak and take chance I play with u cuz see funny while u beat me in 2 match or something So its funny not bad :P
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Asbest on June 26, 2013, 03:30 PM
PRINCE U R THE BEST BRO!!!!!!!!!! DON'T LISTEN CASSO HE IS WRONG HE IS JUST ENVY AND U R RIGHT!!!!!!!!! GOGOGOGOGOGOGGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 04:01 PM
PRINCE U R THE BEST BRO!!!!!!!!!! DON'T LISTEN CASSO HE IS WRONG HE IS JUST ENVY AND U R RIGHT!!!!!!!!! GOGOGOGOGOGOGGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!!!
:)
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Doubletime on June 26, 2013, 04:55 PM
I think that a good idea would be to allow players to play incognito in tus..I too encounter situations when people are asking for TeL But are not willing to play vs me for some odd reason.Propably due to fear of losing their preciuos ladder points..It would be wonderfull if you could have some kind of system that allowed you to play Incognito...
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 05:40 PM
I think that a good idea would be to allow players to play incognito in tus..I too encounter situations when people are asking for TeL But are not willing to play vs me for some odd reason.Propably due to fear of losing their preciuos ladder points..It would be wonderfull if you could have some kind of system that allowed you to play Incognito...
So.... ? "maybe i don't  understand but try.... "
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 26, 2013, 06:01 PM
Sigh.

In competitions you have to play against anyone, period. You can't just avoid players better than you. Not only this isn't fair but additionally, you're not having fun at all because you're almost sure you'll win anyway. What's the point in that?

Come on, you're 15 like me, you're not a kid anymore, are you?
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Hurz on June 26, 2013, 06:46 PM
maybe theres a generational clash of attitude sometimes :)
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 07:04 PM
Sigh.

In competitions you have to play against anyone, period. You can't just avoid players better than you. Not only this isn't fair but additionally, you're not having fun at all because you're almost sure you'll win anyway. What's the point in that?

Come on, you're 15 like me, you're not a kid anymore, are you?
I answer while i understand  :D

I am not kid sure but i am not avoid sometime get nervous so can't play with high players play with little and sometime play with  high players when get good feel
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 26, 2013, 07:28 PM
Well let me reformulate it: you can't choose the players you play this league with.

(Just like you can't choose the questions you want to have in an exam, for example.)
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 26, 2013, 08:01 PM
Well let me reformulate it: you can't choose the players you play this league with.

(Just like you can't choose the questions you want to have in an exam, for example.)
Thnx for Advice but still freedom with my feel in play
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
It's not an advice, it's a rule in leagues.

If you want to play with people you want, play funners.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Hussar on June 26, 2013, 08:23 PM
(http://images.rakuten.com/PI/0/350/207880922.jpg)

AM A PRINCE AND NO ONE CAN JUDGE ME
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 26, 2013, 08:29 PM
Well, I could still try and go for a revolution. (I promise not to kill the prince like we killed the king during 1789-1799's Revolution.) :P
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Rogi on June 26, 2013, 09:35 PM
It was obviously much time ago... I don't think that's problem of tus, its prince's problem, if he scared to play with everyone and any scheme. Maybe later he will understand that to win 1 of 5 game with good player really more enjoyable that 10 of 10 with bad player.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Asbest on June 27, 2013, 12:21 AM
about this topic
I didnt really followed tus changes because I wasn't online half year, but as I remember, u allowed to pick opponents against u want to play tus.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 27, 2013, 01:50 AM
hauhahauhuaah Posts Funny make me laugh
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Xrayez on June 27, 2013, 10:09 AM
Prince, lets HAL  ;D
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Chelsea on June 27, 2013, 11:49 AM
Quote
13:46: fS`Rage> clanner vs cat? 
13:46: fS`Pr1nCe2013`> its first game for me 
13:46: fS`Rage> lets avoid them 
13:46: CAT`Chelsea> lol 
13:46: OverGuyver> !host shopper 
13:46: fS`Pr1nCe2013`> f@#! chelsea 
13:46: CAT`Chelsea> lmfao 
13:46: fS`Rage> cmon 
13:46: fS`Rage> be cool 


what a kid....  3 fs members online but prince of avoid doesn't wanna play HAHAHHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Rage on June 27, 2013, 12:19 PM
fuel the fire
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 27, 2013, 03:20 PM
Hmm, I doubt we could change anything to that without mods. I'd consider leaving this case to them.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Asbest on June 27, 2013, 03:43 PM
Killer please, shut up.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 27, 2013, 04:38 PM
Asbest,
I've been tolerating your posts in shoutbox and some topics, seems like you are back to your old self.
I muted you for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 27, 2013, 05:32 PM
Close that shit Topic :D
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 27, 2013, 05:35 PM
Not before you play Casso on a regular basis. :P
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 27, 2013, 07:02 PM
Not before you play Casso on a regular basis. :P
What's Your position :PPPP ?
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Chelsea on June 27, 2013, 07:03 PM
btw. yesterday I played at laptop mole shoppa with Prince (at laptop my nick is just "Chelsea") and Prince wanted to I join fs, and he wanted give me incharge  ;D
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: LeTotalKiller on June 27, 2013, 07:08 PM
Not before you play Casso on a regular basis. :P
What's Your position :PPPP ?

I don't count, I don't play leagues actively. I prefer not playing at all over noobashing, as you can see.
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: Prince_Egypt on June 27, 2013, 07:31 PM
btw. yesterday I played at laptop mole shoppa with Prince (at laptop my nick is just "Chelsea") and Prince wanted to I join fs, and he wanted give me incharge  ;D
anyway i like help that time before u insult ..... , idk u re maker problems :D
Title: Re: Prince_Egypt
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 28, 2013, 05:32 AM
Prince please play with Casso. 3 games at least, otherwise Casso can report free win.

I'm closing this for now. pm me if you need this reopened.