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Title: [SOLVED] Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 03:00 PM
Hello,

I played tus against BancaForte7T, we played Shopper first (my pick).
He quitted 'couse the game looked impossible to win for him. His pick was Team 17, he hosted his game and we started, I thought it's the official TUS Team 17 scheme, but one turn before SD BancaForte7T used  "freeze" i said "it's no tus scheme, rh" ('couse i looked the TUS scheme list during the game)  but he didn't want to rh, 'couse of this i quitted the game and told him in #AG rh with the official TUS Team 17 scheme pls, he still didn't wanted, he reported the game as a win.

I already asked MonkeyIsland he just told me it's a bug in the Scheme list, there are no special weapons viewed, so he showed me a Thread with the same problem, where Ray said they have to rematch.

I want a rm otherwise i don't exist this as a lose!

Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Rok on February 27, 2010, 03:08 PM
Maybe you misunderstood MonkeyIsland. There's a bug in the scheme list, which means that super weapons are not displayed there. However, that doesn't mean there is no Freeze in TUS scheme, it is.
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: MonkeyIsland on February 27, 2010, 03:20 PM
It is not a bug in TUS scheme viewer nor in the scheme itself. It is a bug of W:A game. In fact if you download the scheme from TUS and view the scheme by any other scheme viewer or even the in-game scheme viewer, you won't see any possibility for freeze, eq ... while the crate might appear. I remember van had more info about this one.
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 03:54 PM
i know now that it's in the tus scheme, but i didn't during the game and i beliefed that's the wrong scheme 'couse of the scheme list, it sux that it's not showed there, but at least could be a WARNING in the scheme-viewer otherwise i would never quit a game... i just want to rm this match or cancel both games
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: NAiL on February 27, 2010, 04:47 PM
Yeh, cancel that game, banca is always acting like this

He cant report a free win for simply not rhing a game -.-

You didnt play the game though did you? Free win report right?


edit: Ah if you played and then quit, game should stand, depending on what the situation was like, you should put the game ID here!
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 05:02 PM
i played the game, but i quitted after using the freeze 'couse it's not in the tus scheme list / scheme viewer
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Rok on February 27, 2010, 05:16 PM
It is not a bug in TUS scheme viewer nor in the scheme itself. It is a bug of W:A game. ...

Well ok, that's what I meant. It's the game's fault certain weapons appear in crates eventough they're not selected in scheme file. I don't see why people should blame TUS or scheme author for this. Another needless complaint, if you ask me :/ Now what do we do, punish Bancaforte because yanme was wrong/misled?  ???
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 05:28 PM
i blame nobody, i just said what would help to arrest it ;x and i find it's just fair if banca and me rm this or if you both games delete
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Ray on February 27, 2010, 06:19 PM
By the way: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-19602/
Banca could be the first victim of the new penalty system of TUS.
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Chicken23 on February 27, 2010, 06:24 PM
When you light you agree to the scheme..

yanme is an experience player and should know freeze is in the scheme.

banca should have the win here because of yanme quitting.
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Guaton on February 27, 2010, 06:47 PM
why dont u guys try to play with the t17 scheme that i attached in another post? its better :/
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 06:57 PM
When you light you agree to the scheme..

yanme is an experience player and should know freeze is in the scheme.

banca should have the win here because of yanme quitting.

that's what you think, i'm a noob in  default scheme, that should everyone know, and i wouldn't quit if i have no reason for it, i thought i am to 100% right, but then i here it's a bug in w:a that the scheme viewer can't see the special weapons it sucks :x i keep on my mind, rm or 2 games cancel
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Chicken23 on February 27, 2010, 07:35 PM
why should the game be voided? you quit. Yes its fair to quit a game if someone makes a cow and they will not take a penetly. These situations are clearer.  But if you made the mistake of quitting why should the game be voided when banca had the advantage of going into sd unpoisioned?
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Chicken23 on February 27, 2010, 07:37 PM
There is nothing wrong with a t17 scheme that has freeze, nuke, earthquake, select worm, super nana, nana, ming vase, sally, pasty's magic bullet. Superweapons or special weapons or whatever you want to call them are ment to be in a t17 scheme.

Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 08:29 PM
chicken, listen, READ my posts before posting on urself looks like u didn't understand my posts!
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: Chicken23 on February 27, 2010, 08:40 PM
i did read your post. Your asking for 0-0? or to rematch the t17 becaue YOU quit the t17 because YOU thought the scheme was incorrect. But YOU were wrong about the scheme being incorrect. So why should banca be punished for this?
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 27, 2010, 09:10 PM
'couse I thought wrong about the scheme becouse of a BUG in w:a for which i nothing can!
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: WookA on February 28, 2010, 06:14 PM
i think the only thing to do for this situation is to include a warning about this in the schemes explanation

@yanme you couldof finished the game and asked about it afterwards even if you thought u were 100% right, you couldof still won
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 28, 2010, 06:57 PM
i know, but it's too late, i can't change that i quitted =/ is there a rm needed now?
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: WookA on February 28, 2010, 07:24 PM
i doubt banca would agree to rematch... he told you a few times that it was the official scheme b4 u quit, if he was wrong you could of complained

t17 cant be rematched fairly imo... its a shitty mistake :( but its really not bancas fault

we could ask him to agree on 0-0 if the other mods thinks its ok

Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: yanme on February 28, 2010, 07:26 PM
it wont happen, but that would be at least a chance
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: zoky on February 28, 2010, 07:35 PM
hey here I am...
chicken,yes he has push the light,coz he play TUS league,and ofcourse man think this guy have scheme from tus.idk why admins dont punisch guys who use another schemes.in my oppinion for league games U MUST USE tus SCHEME,,must must........
admins here didnt give me clear win in TNL,coz apponent use onl scheme,and I have ask him 5x is this TNL,and he respond YES,so he lie to me,but who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in this game is clear,banca have win.i have loose 2 game like this ik think,coz i have watch what scheme have and wath dont have in inventory

any way....

choose ur schemes,and write warning near them if u need.
i can play TNL,and simply setup shorter time,and what any1 can tell me,guy didnt ask me about scheme,he push the light,and gg lol

WE PLAY TUS LEAGUE HERE,CHOOSE TUS SCHEME,AND THEN WE HAVE CLEAR GAMES
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: WookA on February 28, 2010, 07:39 PM
zoky it WAS the tus scheme
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: zippeurfou on February 28, 2010, 07:42 PM
If I can give my word.
Yanme is a fair player with a nice attitude.
I don't remember him being included in bad sportmanship or insulting... bad behavure case. In the other hand you have this player who is new but yet has bad behavure concern. I joined the chat when yanme did host and I must admit that yanme must have been calm and ignoring him before the game started because he was just really annoying.
I guess it's a whole thing. When you play with someone with a behavure like that: you don't want to play with him and you think that if he can he'll find a way to cheat.
I think that's helped yanme to left.  It's not like he left because he though he was gonna loose the game. And before judging mod should concider this :).
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: zoky on March 01, 2010, 08:49 AM
in thair case it was tus scheme.butt many players use diferente scheme for games,and that its not ok.no diference in roope games,i hysteria u can find that ppl play without lg :),in TNL hp go on 1 after sd,etc...
and then I write complain here,and respond is..why did U press light....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..
last time inm one shoppa league game,some boy was suprised why no zooka in scheme,he usualy have lol...idk how he have,i play with tus scheme lol.
Title: Re: Team 17 wrong scheme / bug
Post by: WookA on March 01, 2010, 07:13 PM
it seems the game will stay... ill add a list of the super weapons on the t17 explanation later tonight

@zoky, i think u should try hosting your league games... and if you dont u can always ask if its the official before lighting, if they lie u have a reason to complain... this thread also isnt for bringing up solved complaints...

gonna close this now