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Title: [SOLVED] What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 20, 2011, 04:29 PM
Probably didn't change the result of the game but...?
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: darKz on May 20, 2011, 04:36 PM
Isn't it the players' responsibility to play the game in #PartyTime? :P
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 20, 2011, 04:37 PM
Hahhaha, MAY BE.  :(
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Rok on May 20, 2011, 04:54 PM
Depends whether it's clearly intentional or not, whether it changes the situation or not, etc... We'd need to check the replay to say for sure. I think we voided an elite game once because of a knock, on the other hand we let one t17 game stand.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 20, 2011, 05:19 PM
Oh ok!, could you take a look at my replay when you'll have some time left?
It's on my 60hp worm at the end of SD!
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: franz on May 20, 2011, 05:23 PM
this is similar to an old complaint:
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/52361-6246/

And if he landed on your worm's head? or piled it without moving it? It looks like you would still try to zook kill, right? I'm sorry, I don't see much advantage/disadvantage for either TheKiller or you from this knock.

I understand you getting upset/frustrated after your zook failed, but this is the risk of playing elite outside of #PartyTime.  I know it's annoying to change channel just to play elite, but if these little knocks are more annoying to you.. then maybe #PartyTime is the best channel to go.  Most people playing elite in #AnythingGoes know that these little knocks are possible.. and unless the knock is a huge difference, players usually agree to let them be ok.

Any other mods may post if they disagree.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: MonkeyIsland on May 20, 2011, 05:29 PM
I don't think it changed the outcome of the game. With that nade your worm would plop either way.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 20, 2011, 05:31 PM
Well, my estimation is that I had between 20-25% chance of living.
Question is: is that enough to void the game?!
Apparently it was intentional but he just didn't remember he couldn't do it....
I don't mind though, it's just to know in which cases it's worth a void...
Cause if he lived, I had it won though ;D
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: franz on May 20, 2011, 05:47 PM
well, unknocked, a nade on your head or even below on your side will plop you, so I don't think 20-25% is fair estimation.
true, it sounds like from chat it was intentional and he simply forgot due to not playing much elite.. but bleh, you really want to void his win?

as for which cases it's worth a void -> I'd say when the knock clearly without a doubt gains an advantage with the attack.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: NAiL on May 20, 2011, 05:53 PM
Ima try to always play in PT. There are certain situations where a worm is blocked (for example by the entrance of a blowtorch tunnel). In PT it would be possible to pass through this worm without moving him, is this allowed?
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 20, 2011, 06:11 PM
In PT it would be possible to pass through this worm without moving him, is this allowed?

I've done that many times in T17s, from the moment the worm don't move I think it's not considerated as a "knock" so allowed!
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Rok on May 20, 2011, 06:18 PM
In PT it would be possible to pass through this worm without moving him, is this allowed?

Sure.

It's also possible and allowed in AG, but in PT we don't have to worry if the worm will move.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: franz on May 20, 2011, 06:20 PM
Ima try to always play in PT. There are certain situations where a worm is blocked (for example by the entrance of a blowtorch tunnel). In PT it would be possible to pass through this worm without moving him, is this allowed?

I see no reason why it wouldn't be allowed.

of course the situation is rare because it's often not worth using a rope just to pass through,
but if you find a situation where it's a good idea, go for it.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Joschi on May 20, 2011, 08:11 PM
Rofl, what the heck is going on here? Why you just don't ask me to void the round? I saied sorry and since you didn't reply, I could estimate that the case is closed ... I give a shit on the round.

Meh, how annoying!! Leaving the round without saying good-bye, just to open a complain thread in my back. It's not long that I started to play TEL and I already toke more then one negative moment out of this.

I wonder anyway what the knock changed here? Your worm was dead, with or without knock.

P.S. I thought I play against an honorable player. But Spaazi doesn't realize that I was just better this round. So give him the win please, I don't need to discuss this. And sorry for my knock, I just forgot about it.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: NAiL on May 20, 2011, 09:10 PM
Joshci, everyone here has disagreed with spaazi's request.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: SPW on May 20, 2011, 09:14 PM
And dont put the whole elite community in the same shit. I usually have just nice opponents when playing tel ;d
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 21, 2011, 04:56 AM
Joshci, everyone here has disagreed with spaazi's request.

loool I never resquested to void the game what the f@#!!!! And i didnt want you to void the round on this lool
And by the way, I don't always say goodbye to players and it has nothing to do with respect or whatever shits!!
I do more than 1 thing while I play w:a!!

Did you read the title of my topic!??????  "What happens if rope knock in elite?" Not: VOID THIS GAME BLALBLBA
I just wanted your opinions on such a rope knock! I didn't even posted the # of the game!
Would it be a case of voiding in a clanner by example! even if it doesnt change the outcome of the game!?

Joschi I never seen you on forums, I didn't even meant you to see this anyways pff

I couldn't careless about TEL rofl, as long as I don't lose t17s i don't really mind :P

I consider myself as a nice opponent in TEL, you may ask most of peep around (daina etc)

I didn't reply at the end cause I was chatting with my gf on facebook to set up a supper, you guys are paranoiacs or what ;p
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: MonkeyIsland on May 21, 2011, 05:21 AM
Joschi as NAiL said, everybody was on your side. You don't have to look at a complain as a disrespect to you. Specially this one which is just a "wonder" than an actual complaint.

@Spaazi,
It sure feels good beating you at T17 xDDDDD
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 21, 2011, 05:33 AM
Hahah MI, I wake up at night seeing that patsy in my weaps...  :(
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Joschi on May 21, 2011, 09:07 AM
I didn't want to generalize, SPW ;-) I know a bunch of very friendly TEL players. But I just meet a player, who quitted the round after the very first turn, because of a silly mistake. That shows me, that there are some people, who only enjoy the game, when they are successful.

Spaazi, well, I feel affronted, because you started a discussion in my back, though I was a part of this discussion. As franz saied, your worm was dead anyway, with or without knock, so I toke it as a very last try from you to change the outcome of the round.

Hf there.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: NAiL on May 21, 2011, 02:53 PM
I too love beating spaazi, its always great beating bad losers who rarely say gg when they lose and rage quit.
Title: Re: What happens if rope knock in elite?
Post by: Spaazi on May 21, 2011, 06:37 PM
Rofl whatever  ;D Lock this Mods, that serious guy took it as a real complaint and clearly didn't understand I never wanted this game to be voided.