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Title: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 16, 2019, 01:05 PM
So who is this guy that appeared out of nowhere then?
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 16, 2019, 01:20 PM
So who is this guy that appeared out of nowhere then?
Someone who insulted zar. Other than that, it could be very suspicious.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Aladdin on January 16, 2019, 04:15 PM
He's from w2
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheWalrus on January 16, 2019, 05:24 PM
He's pretty good but im more bad in these games imo

 ;)
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 16, 2019, 10:11 PM
He's from w2

Funny how random good players that pop out of nowhere are always from w2 lol.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 16, 2019, 10:30 PM
He's from w2

Funny how random good players that pop out of nowhere are always from w2 lol.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

That's a long ''Hmm''. Do you hmm that long in real life & much at all?

WA community is small, so I think it can be reasonable to assume that people we have never seen might be a potential alias. A bit of a unfortunate affair. But now that I think of it, in Illusion's case, it seems like he's from the old Worms 2 clan TMNR The Mutant Ninja Ropers. The leader (Or one of the members of this clan), came up with a script for Worms 2 that allowed players to exceed the numbers of rope swings, so that the player could have infinite taps. A pretty cool idea of its time and an achievement of the roping evolution. I did play with one of the members sometime ago, he seemed like a chill guy, we had fun, unfortunately I forgot his name.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 17, 2019, 12:21 AM
I'm just skeptical, and it's not far fetched that someone who needs attention to enjoy a game would research people who used to play 20 years ago and impersonate them.

It's happened many times before and will probably happen many times again, funny thing is it's probably the same few people doing it  :D

You can't even really hold that much evidence against someone from that long ago, people change drastically in that timeframe, behaviour, location, language.

You would think someone who hasn't played a game for 15+ years would usually look really rusty as well.

I could be wrong, but I ain't buying it, it sucks and feels lame tbh, but I just don't trust this kind of thing anymore after all the people who have faked it over the years.

But, at least it creates activity I guess...
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 17, 2019, 05:46 AM
I'm just skeptical, and it's not far fetched that someone who needs attention to enjoy a game would research people who used to play 20 years ago and impersonate them.

It's happened many times before and will probably happen many times again, funny thing is it's probably the same few people doing it  :D

You can't even really hold that much evidence against someone from that long ago, people change drastically in that timeframe, behaviour, location, language.

You would think someone who hasn't played a game for 15+ years would usually look really rusty as well.

I could be wrong, but I ain't buying it, it sucks and feels lame tbh, but I just don't trust this kind of thing anymore after all the people who have faked it over the years.

But, at least it creates activity I guess...

So let me get this right.... People that alias, creates activity to the league, is a good thing?

It is like saying... People that cheats, brings activity to the league. Is that a good thing too?

And what? We are supposed to accept this? Well according to you, we could.

Why do people alias? Fun? Attention? Trouble?

Have you aliased?

Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 17, 2019, 11:36 AM
This seems mental to a lot of people, but it happens, i'm not saying it's definitely true in this case, but it happens.

When you used to be one of the best, and on that journey got lots of attention, lots of compliments, but then it becomes so normal for that person to do good they don't receive as much attention anymore. I've seen people in this situation take on the identity of a noob, or someone that hasn't played for many years, because it gives them attention and compliments again.

Look at music, artists become a huge thing for a while, topping charts everybody loves them, radio playing their music everyday, then all of a sudden you are like "I haven't heard of xxxx for a while, I wonder what happened to them". Now, these bands just stick with their loyal fans, move on gracefully, and get on with life. But they don't have that buzz of being "The new hot thing" ever again, and for some people being that "new hot thing" is the best feeling in the world.

Granted, it's nowhere near as common in such a little game like Worms Armageddon, but the general idea is the same, and some people like being the centre of attention.

On the other hand, some people do it just to see how people react, and others might do it for privacy.

Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheWalrus on January 17, 2019, 06:22 PM
It's probably an alias but who cares

Low probability its some w2 player, he was trying to explain to me his back story when i didn't even ask questions or care.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Chicken23 on January 17, 2019, 09:54 PM
Maybe its HalloweeN?  ;D

any activity is good activity.

Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 17, 2019, 11:40 PM
I don't think WA appeals to Helloween enough to even alias anymore  :D ;D
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 18, 2019, 02:20 PM
The question still remains: Is it okay to use an alias to bring activity to a league?
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 18, 2019, 02:28 PM
The question still remains: Is it okay to use an alias to bring activity to a league?

In my opinion, no, they should play as their original name people knew them by, and if they were hated in the past, they should change their behaviour and earn respect the hard way.

^^ That's if they are playing Leagues, don't care if they alias and not playing Leagues.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Chicken23 on January 19, 2019, 09:55 AM
The question still remains: Is it okay to use an alias to bring activity to a league?

In my opinion, no, they should play as their original name people knew them by, and if they were hated in the past, they should change their behaviour and earn respect the hard way.

^^ That's if they are playing Leagues, don't care if they alias and not playing Leagues.

i don't care about previous respect or anything like that, people have a right to a change of identity.

The only problem is previous rankings in the league and using it unfairly in terms of points earned etc.

MI could approve a change of name in that case without it being publicly announced to the community.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TMNR-Illusion on January 19, 2019, 10:07 AM
First. It calls Teenage Mutant Ninja Ropers ;)   Second. Check www.casesladder.com/worms2r its the old official Worms 2 League URL. Its still active. u can finde me alot in the hall of fames. Illusion was allways my main name. and good morning ;)
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Rogi on January 19, 2019, 02:01 PM
First. It calls Teenage Mutant Ninja Ropers ;)   Second. Check www.casesladder.com/worms2r its the old official Worms 2 League URL. Its still active. u can finde me alot in the hall of fames. Illusion was allways my main name. and good morning ;)
Wow. Interesting
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TMNR-Illusion on January 19, 2019, 04:59 PM
lol i am calm xD seems like most of these guys need to calm xD   cuz.. this reviews are just funny ^^  i really dont mind what u guys think, but im really would quit worms, if this WHO IS HE? Drama aint stoppin..  I love to play worms, and i come here cuz w2 is dead. but since im here people only tell me i am some alias or i cheat and stuff.. cant enjoy worms like this :/  thx
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 19, 2019, 06:42 PM
i don't care about previous respect or anything like that, people have a right to a change of identity.

The only problem is previous rankings in the league and using it unfairly in terms of points earned etc.

MI could approve a change of name in that case without it being publicly announced to the community.

If they want to change their name in private so the people running the league know about it and they aren't harming anyone, or secretly playing as multiple people affecting standings, that's good for them, but I still don't like it.

I know it's an extreme scenario, but some people have been extremely rude/malicious, and for them to hide from their past in the faces of the people they offended/affected and those people are clueless to the knowledge this is the person that done bad stuff to them, that's just f**ked up if you ask me.

Imagine after the b2b thing, I pretend to quit WA, take on a different persona, and wormed my way back into b2b(pun, boom!), and these guys were all happy with my alias, then one day they found out it was really me, how do you think they would feel?

If someone is trying to hide their past, for any reason they must feel some shame/remorse for it, so if they can act like a better/different person, at least in my opinion it's more respectful and honorable to confront that and make amends.

I'm not even saying this guy is definitely an alias, I honestly don't know, it's just an explanation of why I can't trust people who alias or hide their past etc.

Illusion, sorry for making a fuss over this, you may for all I know be a legit w2 player that we haven't heard of before, good luck!
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
There's nothing wrong hiding from the past. The past can be a fuel of negativity that can drive you down, but also a tool to become different version of yourself. What version of yourself is up for you to decide, and if you try to give effort to be better, it shouldn't go unnoticed. People shouldn't add blame to one's failure but instead try to help and review where the faults were made. Communication is key for better understanding.

Why would anyone under alias with a bad past reveal themselves? I think it is irrelevant, because it can bring up many bad memories, and people don't often like this sort of negativity. The past should only be told to someone you fully trust, and if that person likes this new and improved version of you, then you have succeeded in becoming a better self. So in the end, it shouldn't be viewed as a disguise, but a transformation.

Has there been anyone on Worms history to undergo multiple alias?

Komodo, you seem to have some trust issues, and I understand if it is about alias. I can understand the appeal of using an alias. It can be fun and exciting to see people's reaction. All in all it can just be a guilty pleasure of sort. It shouldn't be taken so serious.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 19, 2019, 10:53 PM
Sorry Kradie but I just can't morally agree with that, I see it as cowardly hiding your past and fooling people that you once used to treat poorly.

It depends on the reasoning though, if you want to play using another name just to hide for a couple days, or even just pretend to be someone else to see if you can pass off as a showcase of their skills as long as it's not in any means malicious, ie, extorting information or whatever, then fine.

And of course, more dire situations like you are being bullied or harassed and don't want to be targeted anymore.

What i'm getting at applies to 2 specific scenarios, having multiple accounts or previous accounts still active in a League while affecting current statistics with your current behaviour, and running from a shady past because you can't face consequences like a man.

This is purely my opinion, but to be honest I don't know anything about this guy and i've taken this WAY out of context and I should just shut up now because there is no need to keep this going.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 19, 2019, 11:35 PM
It's all good, I'm not expecting people to agree all the time. We're just having a civilized conversation, are we?

Facing the past like a man? If e.g the past is long and forgotten, then there isn't a need to dig it up. Why would someone come back to Worms with a different name and say ''Yo, I used to be like this and that.'' I don't see the point of it, unless it's been eating that person alive. It is just better to start fresh.

Of course people do alias for malice intent, but these people CAN change too. So judging by your opinion and resentment Komodo, I feel like you've been a victim of many alias and their sinister intent. I've met a few alias myself, so I get how it can sting. Nowadays I usually don't care much if people alias or not, it is their business and I am sure there's a reason why they hide. Some just have a hard time fitting in and wants to try again, but sadly it can be at cost of others too.

Illusion dude seems legit, and I don't want to focus too much energy on second guessing him. He seems cool, we played a few zar last night. All was sweet and good. So if he turns out to be e.g Biscuit, who cares, unless he goes psycho mode again.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: TheKomodo on January 20, 2019, 12:32 AM
Yeah I know it's just a conversation, and nobody is throwing insults or anything, but we're talking about someone else right in front of them without any evidence one way or another so, tbh I feel like i'm being pretty rude for no valid reason so i'm just gonna stop.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Game #224390, reported by TMNR-Illusion
Post by: Kradie on January 20, 2019, 04:03 PM
Yeah I know it's just a conversation, and nobody is throwing insults or anything, but we're talking about someone else right in front of them without any evidence one way or another so, tbh I feel like i'm being pretty rude for no valid reason so i'm just gonna stop.

Sorry.

Your reasons were valid Komodo, it is who you are and that's a reason enough. I did latch on a little, but I was talking in general terms when it came to alias, not specifically and necessary about Illusion, but everything else and in between.

So what is there to learn from all of this? Not to jump the buttons, and latch on.