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Title: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: Lupastic on October 01, 2022, 07:44 PM
reading the ingame chats... donnie is slowly but surely getting to know zalo, aka Amber Heard :D :D

haha
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/content/uploads/2022/05/932/524/ebc7d0c7-Amber-Heard1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: Kaleu on October 01, 2022, 08:01 PM
Yeah I just had a hard time with Zalo where I tried to peacefully talk to him but he offended me a lot.
It's sad to have to unfriend him as I was his friend and made multiple video montages in the past for him for free and friendship.
I will just ignore this and expose our chat. You take your own conclusions.

This is the log of the lobby where they offered us to pick another scheme.
https://pastebin.com/nsYZbxUH

This was our private chat after games.
https://pastebin.com/8bc7A29X

This is the lobby log of our previous clan games like 4 days ago where Zalo was making a huge mess about the picks too. So yeah, this isn't about me Zalo.
https://pastebin.com/k4KUfQXb
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: FoxHound on October 01, 2022, 08:40 PM
I think that if you want to play only Team17, you play TTL. If you wanna play Classic league, you have to acept the rules that say that both clans can pick one scheme of its choice. Zalo has the right to suggest schemes and negociate to play a determined scheme, but doing this all the time is not cool. The moment you start ofending someone because the clan refused to use its pick to favor the oponent clan, you are unstable, demonstring insecurity and immaturity.

Zalo also tried to negociate with me to cancel a T17 game that I won, when he lost he said we should make the game bo3, even though TTL doesn't work this way. Not to say those times he was always disconnecting from games usually when he was loosing... At least it seems that his connection got better.

I never enjoyed playing competitive games so much because of this kind of people that is always thinking in stats...

Maybe this system is not the best one, maybe TUS will have a different system in version 3.0. But, this is the way it is for now, accept it or play another league, propose something different.
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 02, 2022, 12:24 AM
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Yeah I just had a hard time with Zalo where I tried to peacefully talk to him

Donnie... Please just sit down, scroll up and read the replay's chatbox above and see what utter rubbish you wrote there "peacefully". I'm just tired of repeating myself. You jumped on us, claiming there shouldn't be any mutual picks between clans, and that we are some sort of manipulators for trying to agree for them.


Zalo has the right to suggest schemes and negociate to play a determined scheme, but doing this all the time is not cool.

Of Course, I completely agree with that. It's just that 2x Elite was meant to be our mutual 3rd pick. I didn't care about them choosing Roper as their pick in the 2nd game. Maybe he can't distinguish between vesuvio and zalo? Also vesuvio did nothing wrong saying "please" because that is what he sees as 2nd fair pick, he isn't being rude over there.

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[2022-10-01 18.47.19] [G-Zalo] can we play in 30 min?
[2022-10-01 18.47.27] [ob-Blitz0r`zar] i wanted go out soon
[2022-10-01 18.47.32] [G-Zalo] what is your pick
[2022-10-01 18.47.37] [G-Zalo] okay we will just play now then
*roper map flashes*
[2022-10-01 18.47.44] [vesuvio`] pick t17 too plz
[2022-10-01 18.47.45] [G-Zalo] I will try to contribute more to roper this time
[2022-10-01 18.48.01] [vesuvio`] is it possible u pick t17 too this time ?
[2022-10-01 18.48.04] [vesuvio`] :O
[2022-10-01 18.48.12] [ob-donnie`ea] team in
[2022-10-01 18.48.14] [ob-Blitz0r`zar] i dont mind
[2022-10-01 18.48.18] [vesuvio`] nice
[2022-10-01 18.48.25] [vesuvio`] donnie ? plz t17
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 02, 2022, 12:50 AM
Not to say those times he was always disconnecting from games usually when he was loosing... At least it seems that his connection got better.


Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? "he was always disconnecting from games when he was losing" when????  :o We never played any games in which I dropped. What's more, we never had any games with any disconnection. Those are all the games that took place between us.

(https://i.ibb.co/0fJfVYf/FoxHound.png)

NONE of the games from the screenshot ended up with any disconnection. You say that I was "always" disconnecting when I was losing and yet such disconnections never existed and we both know you don't have any such replay. We only had 6 league games  ??? ???

Zalo also tried to negociate with me to cancel a T17 game that I won, when he lost he said we should make the game bo3

I never enjoyed playing competitive games so much because of this kind of people that is always thinking in stats

I tried to negociate it, you say...? I am thinking in stats, you say...?

(https://i.ibb.co/580Pr6J/Fox-Hound2.png)
(original chatlog with original date in the attachment. FoxHound has the same one on his HDD)

Kaleu/Donnie seems to have paid FoxHound to lie here. Nice...
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: vesuvio on October 02, 2022, 06:26 AM
 :-X :'( >:( could the last few active worms players plz stop this kindergarden?


its totally cool zalo tries to arrange 2xElite as a clanwar. there were times in wich there was a tel league for elite only and clans who enjoyed elite and had the most fun to play it.

if this ob clan is only up to gather points in a scheme zalo is very weak in for example roper dont act like he done anything worse to you!
plz keep it friendly :-\
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: FoxHound on October 02, 2022, 03:31 PM
Well, sorry Zalo if you felt offended with something I said. Yes, you are right, we never disconnected, when we played you were with 100% good connection. I just said this based on other games and discussions with other players I saw. Maybe my impressions about your disconnects from those game are wrong, but that's what I thought, sorry.

Yes I asked for bo3 because I thought we were going to play 3 games of TTL, not in bo3 of Bo3s format. And yes I asked to cancel one Team17 game we played that was with the wrong scheme of the league, which is very different. It was my mistake to select that scheme, and I said that if you really wanted you could report that game. And you can still report if you want.

Kaleu/donnie didn't pay to me, he just showed the chat and explained his point of view, I formed an opinion and decided to post here, since I never said anything about your attitudes before, now you are calling me a fake person and a liar, and you have the right to think this, but I don't think so.

Every time I see your Cubone image I think on your lavender town theme song videos and associate the ground type with the ground schemes which you are an excellent player. Specially when the Cubone is holding a mole lol. So that's another impression I have of you, the author of Mole Forts, an interesting scheme. Tell me if I wrote anything wrong about your scheme on the wiki, I can fix that there or maybe someone else.

I like you Zalo, don't get me wrong. I'm just criticizing this behavior in competitive games. I know I could have talked with you before posting publicly here, my bad. I don't wanna discuss here more.
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: Zalo the moler on October 02, 2022, 03:56 PM
Misunderstanding solved. Thank you FoxHound, and sorry for jumping to conclusions. You proved to me that I was wrong about you.

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I just said this based on other games and discussions with other players I saw

4 days ago when we played with OB clan, During only 1 pick (Team17), Adnan dropped 2x, and Vesuvio 1x, so we had to upload quite a few replays there. Somehow nobody writes the post about it, nobody hears about it, and nobody reports a free win. I genuinely wish to know why.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-233541/msg286880/#msg286880

Last time I dropped during any match was on August 20 (45 days ago), and over there we gave free win to FS clan. I'm tired of being associated with drops if I see that 80% of time it's happening to my clanmates or my opponents whenever we do clanners (anyone can check our recent multiple uploaded replays). It goes without saying that we also never uploaded free wins so far, even if we were decisevely dominating the game, just to avoid drama.
Title: Re: Game #234086, reported by donnie
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 02, 2022, 09:03 PM
Locking this topic.

@Lupcastic, @GonZalo you're both warned. Those stuff don't belong to this website.