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Title: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Free on January 10, 2024, 11:52 PM
Can this and #239994 be moved to be played after #239989 so the order goes correct and I don't lose as much points?

Also, EPIC self-fail from me to lose the game
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Saint on January 11, 2024, 05:04 AM
Can this and #239994 be moved to be played after #239989 so the order goes correct and I don't lose as much points?

Also, EPIC self-fail from me to lose the game
Are you seriously playing for points? :-X
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: TheWalrus on January 11, 2024, 06:39 AM
Never understood game order points anyhow, it’s elo, you get the points back after the next game or two.  It literally means nothing unless maybe it’s the last game of the season and you need 2 extra points to make the playoffs. 
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Free on January 11, 2024, 11:58 AM
Ofc I play for points 😅

I mean if its just couple of points idc but I’m not sure how many points the real order loses in this case, could be closer to 10?
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: nino on January 11, 2024, 12:35 PM
Are you seriously playing for points? :-X

who never was driking and randoly told to friends...i just won 37 point on elite today!!!
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 11, 2024, 01:31 PM
The order of the games has been fixed.
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Free on January 11, 2024, 02:58 PM
Never understood game order points anyhow, it’s elo, you get the points back after the next game or two.  It literally means nothing unless maybe it’s the last game of the season and you need 2 extra points to make the playoffs. 

The order fix was worth +20 pts, deffo worth it.
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: TheWalrus on January 11, 2024, 05:12 PM
The order fix was worth +20 pts, deffo worth it.
It's an ELO scoring system, you may have gained 20 points, but your next loss will be more points than it would have originally been, and your wins less points.  Regression to the mean, stats 101.  Even if you win the next say, 20 games, your 20 points now will have gained you 0-2 points after the 20 game win streak.  The regression to the mean is so stark that if you win enough games, your 20 points originally gained will be worth approximate zero.  Definitely don't lose a game to a lower ranked opponent ever again, because your 20 points from reordering will be mostly wiped out vs not reordering.  Hope this makes sense because I'm not a math pro!  I'm sure someone could explain it better.
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Free on January 11, 2024, 06:30 PM
It's an ELO scoring system, you may have gained 20 points, but your next loss will be more points than it would have originally been, and your wins less points.  Regression to the mean, stats 101.  Even if you win the next say, 20 games, your 20 points now will have gained you 0-2 points after the 20 game win streak.  The regression to the mean is so stark that if you win enough games, your 20 points originally gained will be worth approximate zero.  Definitely don't lose a game to a lower ranked opponent ever again, because your 20 points from reordering will be mostly wiped out vs not reordering.  Hope this makes sense because I'm not a math pro!  I'm sure someone could explain it better.

Hmm, makes you think doesn't it.
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: TheKomodo on January 11, 2024, 06:54 PM
Even if you don't care about points, the order matters so people can see the actual order you played in.

That's the one thing that bothers me most about this League, people are often lazy and useless at playing and reporting that who knows what's reliable information in terms of statistics around here.

I know most people don't think about time/numbers in the same way but if you've lost track of your day and trying to retrace your steps to remember what you did at the right time, having things done the right way REALLY helps here!

Just pay attention and do it right in the first place and everything will be fine!
Title: Re: Game #239994, reported by Saint
Post by: Lupastic on January 11, 2024, 07:03 PM
the circumstances this game, the activity, the community has nowadays, and in the past few years we should be glad that there are still SOME games we can do, and a few players to play with, forget the scores. just enjoy the games and play with the rest of the warriors and veterans who are still available ^.-