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Leagues => Leagues Games Comments => Topic started by: Sensei on February 17, 2024, 09:48 PM
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I don't really understand where's that line where things start to go lame in BnG!?
Haha, I mean.. Each day I figure there's some new way of trying to "cheat" the game.
And it's never lame, ofc - it's always: those are game mechanics!!
Count sprites, pull out the ruler.. Get me my notch table, immediately!!! Wait a sec... I'm just gonna hold my thumb on a monitor screen half of the game, because counting gets boring and takes too much time 8)
Please someone explain how people get to a stage where they hold their finger on the monitor screen for accumulated 10+ minutes and ,over the years, manage to convince themselves it's cool thing to do!? Not lame at all.. I mean - it's just game mechanics, right!?
Haha, sorry Free.. Nothing of this was going towards you personally. It was a fun conversation we led before game ended, but HP was too low to say all of this. Know I've been talking about BnG a lot lately, and people are probably tired of me and these rants..
But can't be the only one thinking something really needs to be done with this scheme. Something drastic. Auto re-aim + manual reaim, lower turn time, a2b league rules (no repeats.. if you hit with one kind of a shot, next dmg must be applied with different shot)..
When Husk and myself stripped BnG down to 2 seconds (+ rule of reaiming only after hitting, +lower hp) and people could only rely on their game feel.. So there was no notching, sprite counting, thumb placing, ruler holding.... Best BnG player comes and leaves a comment that this scheme is...boring!
Well, enough said.
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-1869/msg234442/#msg234442
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-826/
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You had to be in dt to see the bng notching guide on their private board ;D
[TdC-Free] i just try not to be too lame lol
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Don't hate the player, hate the scheme.
And wtf you on about bufso, I don't notch and what I mean about lame is throwing 4s rollers etc.
I'm not doing anything special here, I could get the same aim without the ease of using my thumb just by counting sprites for example. If you see counting sprites to get an estimation where you will land with certain power as lame then I don't know broski, it's literally a game mechanic to learn how to estimate distance, infront of your eyes.
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a2b league rules (no repeats.. if you hit with one kind of a shot, next dmg must be applied with different shot)
Makes no sense why the one who made a hit has to handicap himself by using a different shot. The one getting hit should move if he thinks the repeat is easy enough.
IMO, knowing where to aim is the easy part, getting the power right is the hard part.. atleast that's hard for me.
Maybe I should use thumb to reaim power too
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You and Komo have something in common, you both like this scheme, and you both go nuts very often, coincidence? I don't think so.
Sufficient evidence to ban this scheme from worms for everyone's mental health!
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So many bng drama threads I’m getting aroused
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The thing that is hilarious to me is that Sensei appears to actually believe things that aren't even true. :D
I get it, in life, we all like and dislike things.
Sometimes the logic of what people do and don't like is sometimes confusing though...
Take Sensei for example.
He complained about Rocket doing "the lamest shot I've seen all day" in a TUS BnG a week or 2 back.
But earlier that day, only a few hours if I recall correctly, Sensei already did a very similar shot...
Then when I actually went back and checked just a few of his games from the very same week that he was complaining about other people, I pointed out that he was being a hypocrite.
Then he tried to change the subject by saying:
Komo... You're going into that weird phase of yours. It doesn't look good.
If it's gonna help - I'm lame, Rocket is way better.. You notching every single shot while being behind is heroic tactics...
Hope this settles it.
Just get some air now.
So yeah, whenever Sensei calls other people lame, I kind of see it as some guy yelling into a mirror.
I genuinely wish that Sensei could actually LISTEN TO US!
The VERY first thing you're wrong about, nobody is trying to "CHEAT" the game. Even counting isn't cheating, because it isn't a rule!
Out of all the "lame" things people can do in BnG, counting out your shots notch by notch by memorizing charts and having rulers on your screen etc is something that the biggest majority thinks is not cool to do.
There hasn't been a single player around for years who actually does this, or at least does it in League matches or even funners that I've seen.
Nobody needs to put their thumb, or anything else on the monitor. But we DO actually do stuff like this, all of us do.
I honestly have no idea how you BnG Sensei, but I promise you that internally in your own brain you are doing something similar to all of us, you have YOUR own way of measuring the game.
We could sit here and pick about every "lame" thing that every single player in the League does, and I guarantee you, EVERYONE does "lame" stuff.
I honestly have no idea whatsoever why you even compete in WA because all you ever do is bloody moan about everyone else and how lame they are for their way of playing the game.
If you cannot handle the pressure and/or reality of competing in an "anything goes as long as you follow the rules" environment then I suggest you stick to funners with friends where we all like doing trick shots and don't even think about winning we just search for that golden shot each map.
Sensei, I could even play BnG via instructing someone else to play for me, then that way I could prove that what you're saying is absolutely bollox because I'd still hit more often than pretty much anyone else because I just know what the angles look like.
Of course, I'd pick someone who is actually good at getting the power right for shots that aren't full power because after all THAT is the only part of BnG that nobody can accuse you of doing anything "lame" with.
For me, most of the time it's just "It looks right", then when it's a new turn I move back to the same place so I can do something from there.
Not because I can't do it twice in a row without using my thumb :D Are you forgetting that during my peak I pretty much hit the vast majority of shots 1st attempt?
Whether you have 1 seconds or infinite time, whether notching was literally impossible or not, whether auto-lock is on or off, whether the cursor was constantly moving and the feature to have the power go up then back down as well. Whether I was allowed to touch the screen or not, I could probably play with my feet and still beat you most times out of 10.
So what do you expect us to do?
If the entire planet gave YOU, Sensei, 100% authority to edit the BnG scheme however you want, and write whatever rules you want.
There is absolutely NO way people wouldn't use common sense and human adaptiveness to find techniques and loopholes to be more efficient.
And if you're going to complain about that, then honestly, you've lost the plot mate and nobody can relate to you on that.
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But can't be the only one thinking something really needs to be done with this scheme. Something drastic. Auto re-aim + manual reaim, lower turn time, a2b league rules (no repeats.. if you hit with one kind of a shot, next dmg must be applied with different shot)..
nope, just switch to nrbng ;D
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nope, just switch to nrbng ;D
It doesn't matter what rules BnG does or doesn't have, there has never been any problem with the scheme itself.
It's the difference of opinion of what's lame or not lame that's the problem.
That's why we even had a2b, because there was demand for a more "gentleman" style BnG, we don't have that demand right now, and Sensei moaning about everything people do on his own isn't enough demand.
The only thing about this that actually is both hilarious and frustrating, is Sensei is making such a big deal out of something he's guilty of himself, because he does things that he complains about himself lol.
We ALL do!
I've even proved it already.
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Makes no sense why the one who made a hit has to handicap himself by using a different shot. The one getting hit should move if he thinks the repeat is easy enough.
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Hey Komo, I'm always ready to play this Hysterial BnG cup match which you forfeited apparently.. Got scared of possible loss? 2 sec not enough for your godlike skills? What was the reason? I guess you moaned about something...
(https://i.ibb.co/pnHZqcn/Screenshot-1.png) (https://ibb.co/pnHZqcn)
You should pay a bit more respect to the guy that stopped BnG god himself..
nope, just switch to nrbng ;D
Yeah. Time to leave some nail marks on a monitor screen! That's the way of playing pc games, apparently! :)
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I was actually curious why I forfeited that, but it explains so in the thread.
Something to do with no hotseat time.
And yeah, once I found that off it really put me off because back then I used to smoke weed a lot and there's no time to rolls joints between turns when you get 2s and no hotseat time lol.
To be honest, if it had happened now I'd look at it as a fun side thing rather than a serious League thing.
Host one again, I'm down. Any settings you want.
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Great. Let's report that missing game then. Cup scheme. I'll ring you if you'll be on in a few hours.
Actually, might as well host a whole new cup again.. I remember this being quite fun and lot of laughs during the games.
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Nah, I'm not playing that old match, it's almost 10 years old lol.
That was a completely different era.
As long as I don't have to play on PNG maps I'm down for a sort of more fun novelty BnG Cup.
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Great. Let's report that missing game then. Cup scheme. I'll ring you if you'll be on in a few hours.
Actually, might as well host a whole new cup again.. I remember this being quite fun and lot of laughs during the games.
Experimental BnG cup with rules to test, that way we can stop doing spam like 4 page threads about bng in frees league game, and avoiding discussion on franks clan report from 10 years ago lol
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You and Komo have something in common, you both like this scheme, and you both go nuts very often, coincidence? I don't think so.
Sufficient evidence to ban this scheme from worms for everyone's mental health!
I don't like this scheme, far from it. Yes I do go nuts often, got a problem with that ziliano?
Lets settle the dispute like men Kaleu, bo9 tus elite
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Its a league, most of players don't want to loss points and play to win. Play for fun if you can't handle the way people play a league.