Interesting discussion here whether its allowed to knock a worm for hp purposes without having collected the crate (or in this case touched the walls). I`ve always thought of a knock to reduce hp as an attack, and personally I would not have done this knock without touching the walls first. It is allowed in TUS, but by definition (CBA), shouldn`t it not be allowed?
PS: I forgive you nino <3
Knocking is not an attack, even if you deliberately damage the worm or not. Attack is using a weapon.
The rules are clear about having to collect a crate/touch a wall before you attack, knocking is not an attack.
Ofcourse knocking is an attack, you deliberately interfere with the other worm in order to do damage. If I pushed/knocked you off a cliff Ray and you fell 30 meters down, would you not say it was an attack on you?
ae crazy <3
and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD
And yeah, following Rays logic, I guess Pearl Harbor wasn't an attack either?
As if worms had any common sense compared to real life. :D
It's always been like that since I can remember, XTC, CBC cleared these situations in their rules and I remember specifically that they said "knocking is not an attack".
Lol I know mate, literally, it's an attack, but Leagues never seen it that way really.
I think one thing that affects this, is in Roper clanners, where you can knock an opponent down onto his/her teammate for a pile, THEN collect crate and attack. If you get me?
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:
Knocking is not an attack.
Knock doesn't end a turn like zook or nade. Following this logic this is not an attack. And of course there is no any weapon used when knocking. If an enemy falls near a mine I dropped in my previous turn and get hit, then it's also an attack? :)
Quote from: Ray on October 12, 2011, 08:11 AM
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:
Knocking is not an attack.
Sorry mate, I wasn't arguing I was just, talking lol.
You cannot say that knocking is not an attack, generally speaking, if you mean in this League, then I agree, anything that deals damage is an attack whether accidental or intentional.
;O erased - didn't read the OP.
That was my point. CBA doesn't stop you from knocking before the crate.
Knocking was never considered an attack for the reasons Statik and Cue stated. I don't think that should be changed either, it's good the way it is. Getting knocked to death is your own fault to begin with. ;)
Quote from: nino on October 12, 2011, 12:30 AM
and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD
:-X what did i do!?
In w2w i've knocked to deal damage before, but in roper i wouldnt know if it is legal. I feel maybe mab is right, not sure if its covered in tus rules tho!
i agree with ray.