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Title: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Korydex on November 02, 2017, 08:29 PM
clanners are so dead that I think the only option is to limit clan league to strictly 2 clans. one of them should be cfc as they are former champions. and the other should be made from a handful of other clans, like dp, tfc and dt? imo it's the only way to make it competitive again. opinions?
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Senator on November 02, 2017, 08:51 PM
cFc is inactive
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Korydex on November 02, 2017, 08:52 PM
they would start playing again because it would be new motivation for them, so far nobody could compete with them. and they could recruit new players from other clans. or it could be any other clan, just "red" and "blue" or "king" and "pretender" for example
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: daiNa on November 02, 2017, 09:03 PM
cfc would be active if there was any competition, there is none atm
no Pos, no clanners... no point or motivation to play 

Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Kaleu on November 02, 2017, 09:39 PM
Yeah, I second what daina said and I like your idea.
League is dead, I once tried to play some singles this season, but it went boring looking for tus and never find a match in my favorite daytime, plus facing the same dudes over and over isn't fun.  :(

A month ago I tried to recruit beginners to make a new clan lead and taught by cfc, I got only 1 interested, it ended not happening.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: HHC on November 02, 2017, 10:39 PM
I don't see the point in trying to activate clanners when even the singles league is all but dead  :(

IMO should just count single player records for the clan league, then we have a standings at least. And we can still do the PO's after, with actual teams.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Sensei on November 03, 2017, 06:58 AM
singles league is all but dead  :(

You meant all but alive?
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Korydex on November 03, 2017, 09:14 AM
I think that clanner always was the fuel for single. People would look for clanner and go to single while waiting for another clan to pop in.
team games are much more fun than singles
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: TheKomodo on November 03, 2017, 09:15 AM
We are facing the end of Leagues as we know it, we will never restore how it was, need to create something new which fits the current conditions.

Challenges Cups and Tournaments are the most active competitive thing atm, also EAC and CWT.

What else can we do?

Maybe people just don't like the Classic schemes enough? I dunno...
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Korydex on November 03, 2017, 09:25 AM
Challenges Cups and Tournaments are the most active competitive thing atm, also EAC and CWT.
only a handful of people play challenges. i didnt hear anything about eac this year, i think cwt is the only serious cup nowadays and as we can see their admins are also struggling, it was delayed for a month for unknown reasons. also there wasnt worm olympics this year! only your and kins tourneys were really popular. in short, we're in deep shit :-[
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: TheKomodo on November 03, 2017, 09:51 AM
I disagree a little bit, i've never ever saw "Latest Challenges Records" empty, it's always got at least 5-6 records up there, and that's all that needs to be considered active.

Yeah, you are right about EAC, that's a real shame I was actually hoping to stream some of that, Free & I were talking about organizing a huge Elite event, but never got round to it, and now he's inactive again...

It's a shame Worm Olympics are gone, as much as I hated how they were organized always thought of them as a vital part of the community, I should have said that more often.

I honestly think, as harsh and against tradition as it may seem, we need to completely restructure Leagues on WA, we need to strip the schemes most people can't be bothered with, that includes TTRR/BnG/Roper etc, and stick to what is currently popular:

Big RR
Hysteria
Intermediate

Those are 3 biggest schemes in my opinion, i'd even get rid of Free League & Classic as it is, completely, and maybe start fresh again, start simple, see if it works, and we can build our way back up again.

Let's not forget it was just 3 schemes in a League when we started back in WACL, even 4-5 schemes is too much for noobs to learn against old experts like us who played for 10+ years, it's no fun for them...

What the hell have we got to lose when we've already lost almost everything, it hurts to get rid of Classic schemes, but at least we were there to enjoy it in it's prime, let's move on now, create something for the newer generation, stop being selfish, does anyone agree?


Edit - Oh, i'd do the same thing with Clans, get rid of them all, start fresh, start from scratch, try new and different friendships.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Sensei on November 03, 2017, 10:35 AM
You guys managed to convince MI to reset and change previous league cause 100% belief in bigger activity.  Why he would do it again after few months?  Just let it be.  Enjoy funners.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: TheKomodo on November 03, 2017, 10:38 AM
Well that answers simple Sensei, that plan failed so we need to try something else, you don't just want to give up do you?
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Kradie on November 03, 2017, 11:20 AM
The proposed idea of starting entirely fresh by Komodo is a solid idea, but also very ambitious. To carry out this transformation requires refurbished design, layout and a new league. Unfortunately such change of event & transition won't be met with ebullience and fanfare due to conservative nature of unknown number of intellects. I just feel that Tus can look very outdated and convoluted for some people.

Komodo, Mole Shopper is also a popular scheme, I would add that to the list.

I once brought up the idea in a similar topic where there's a  two types of league ''Normal League'' & ''Pro League''
Where Normal League could consist of the following schemes: Intermediate, Mole, Hysteria and Big RR.
While the pro league could consist of these schemes: Elite, RR, BnG & ZaR.
Of course it could be rearranged ''Fast League'' Hysteria, Aerial, RR & ZaR.
''Slow League'' Normal, Elite, BnG & Big RR.

But this is just an ideas, and isn't meant to be a compass to a goal.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: VoK on November 03, 2017, 11:22 AM
Moleshopper legue is one and only what we need ! It would bring activity.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: TheKomodo on November 03, 2017, 11:26 AM
Unfortunately such change of event & transition won't be met with ebullience and fanfare due to conservative nature of unknown number of intellects. I just feel that Tus can look very outdated and convoluted for some people.

Did you swallow a f**king thesaurus this morning?? Too much lol...
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Kradie on November 03, 2017, 11:46 AM
Unfortunately such change of event & transition won't be met with ebullience and fanfare due to conservative nature of unknown number of intellects. I just feel that Tus can look very outdated and convoluted for some people.

Did you swallow a f**king thesaurus this morning?? Too much lol...

Well I was meant to use the word ''Hiraeth'' but I felt it was too much xD
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: TheKomodo on November 03, 2017, 12:00 PM
Mate, just get a job on Countdown...
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: lalo on November 03, 2017, 12:41 PM
Although no clanners are being played because of little activity/motivation, we should still make clanner PO with the current top 4 clans: cfc, dt, tdc and dp. Guys in small clans like che, hcp, etc. could join one of the latter 3. No point having small clans anymore.

Doing that we all have drive and one motivation: Beat the shit out of cfc. And cfc will also have good motivation: to mantain their leadership.
I can see tdc, dt or dp having a good chance against my former clan with the right members and a good plan.

And now League Singles, it's funny you guys propose so much but never played singles too much. You really think those changes will make turn the direction of this game anywhere? Yeah, just a good reason for the hardcore gamers to never come back again.
New players will always follow the the top trend in this game. When I started there were tons of clans around, so I wanted to be in one; everyone was playing leagues and I wanted to be part of one too.
What do we have now? A bunch of guys playing mole, shopper, this and that with a Please don't hurt me mentality.
Bring money back, give the old folk a good reason to be around, be competitive and let the new guys adapt.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Anubis on November 03, 2017, 12:46 PM
Maybe just give up TUS? I don't mean this in a negative way, but TUS is ancient. It was built during a different time and era. The newer generation needs to take responsibility and take over. They should make their own site and league and go from there. Shutting down TUS as a league platform might be the best way to gauge at the actual active community and what they want. Keeping a league alive past its point of relevance (no competition) makes no sense. Let new guys step up, and if none has the energy or motivation to do it then there is no point anyway. Do we really need highly developed league statistics? Does anyone care about them at all anymore? Like I said it was made during a time where the competition was different. A simple win/loss system with points could make it more active again.

All leagues of the past had one thing in common, they were taken over by something new.
WACL to cl2k to WL to the CBC/FB to AL to XTC to TUS

The new generation has no say on the site/league and can't shape it the way they would like it.

I only mean the league administration, the site itself should obviously stay as a hub for W:A related forums/resources etc.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Senator on November 03, 2017, 01:37 PM
Many veteran players don't have time or desire to play on a daily basis anymore so maybe we should try out EAC/CWT style concept where every player plays against each other a Bo5 series 1-2 times and then playoffs.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Chelsea on November 03, 2017, 01:45 PM
I agree with lalo.
Title: Re: cfc vs all in one clan
Post by: Sensei on November 03, 2017, 02:14 PM
Make 4 clans like in harry potter. Taner and chelsea for bosses of slytherin. Admins decide which guys to put where, haha.