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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: spleen17 on March 29, 2017, 08:45 PM
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Good games, but I can't help but find it weird that in these days of inactivity dt are always playing with 5 people, 2 playing, 3 watching... If you guys would just split into 2-3 different clans then league activity would be much better overall... If all the active players are in one clan then obviously the league will die soon. Maybe it is time to limit clans to 4 members like WR? Then we could see some good battles for playoff positions.
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Limit is a good idea :)
Split Tdc and dt for few clans :)
reset all clans and make limist - max 4/5 players per one clan :)
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split me and vok for new clans?
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TdC has 34 members :P
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lol seriously Chelsea
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yes, why not?
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Reset clanner league, make it 4 per team, that way the active players will be more spread out.
Make your old clans into communities if you want to keep them for friendship / sentimental reasons.
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TdC has 34 members :P
I mean lol about this :D
4 players clan is good idea
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dt has talked about this amongst ourselves....
but why are you talking about this?? join a clan, start to clanner... contribute to the very thing your voicing opinion to fix..... then i might even consider taking you seriously.
dt has 3 active members.
aladdin, sock, and dibz.
3 semi active members... avirex, knightz, and free (since you seen him today, we will call him semi active)
how do you suggest we split these groups up??? 2 active and 1 semi in one clan, and 2 semi, and 1 active in another... you think thats going to save the clanner scene here on tus, ae? did you think this through??
yeah, lets split tdc up!!! who wants first pick on agneua?? or ninjacamel??? how about crazy?? or snoop?? lol
and ok... lets split up dt... who wants dean? flex, or benz???
go join a clan spleen.
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He is in a clan ^^
Ofc, inactive one, they tried it at least ;)
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HCP will come to rescue. Secretly we're been forming force so powerful that none of these, so called, pro clans could ever be mentioned in same sentence with us. But yeah, as any good stuff in life, this one too ain't for free. Those who will be privileged enough to go in a battle with 2 members of HCP, should pay 20$ to each.
Then pray... Just pray to avoid humiliation. Small chances tho.
Best regards,
Sensei.
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He is in a clan ^^
Ofc, inactive one, they tried it at least ;)
thats not what TUS thinks.
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Whenever a player returns to WA, he wants to join a clan that is already active (dt). Say NO and force him to join a less active clan or found a new clan.
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I already played with 4 different clans on tus, 135 clanners total, but since I'm not in one at the moment I can't have an opinion, right... :D
And when I'm talking about splitting clans up I'm only talking about the active players, you only need 2-3 active players to reach 40 games, with maybe 1-2 semi-active there as a backup. And if old players return, they must find new people to play with.
I just think it would be a bit more likely to have 5-6 clans competing at a time, rather than 2 or 3, but maybe you are right, there are just not enough players anyway.
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dt has 3 active members.
aladdin, sock, and dibz.
3 semi active members... avirex, knightz, and free (since you seen him today, we will call him semi active)
Knightz played more clanners this season than Sock :P
you have 4 active members + 3 semi active members -> tomt, free and you, avi :P + nino :D
Split it to 2 clans:P
1. Avi, Sock, Dibz and Free
2. Knightz, Alladin, Nino & TomT
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Lol chels, true iam semi active and iam sure gonna get more active when i move to other place, gonna make a worms gaming room lol.
dt wont split porra!!! we are like Siamese twins if we get separated, we might die!! and if we die togueder np!! cos <3
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reset all clan members and give limit to 4 or 5 members is the only one think which can make tus clanners league active again :P
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lol.. i actually did forget about tomt!! my apologies tomt.
but that does not mean nino should be included in a semi active list of dt.
he played 2 clanners, because i keep in touch with him on whatsapp, and from time to time i can get his ass to AG.
maybe you guys should start worrying about your own clans, and not dt... dt stays active, and keep members, because i put a little effort into keeping everyone together, and promoting activity in the clan.... and when things get slow, i recruit... or someone else in the clan recruits.
if i sat back and did nothing, because some people here think dt has too many members, then dt would be just as slow as other clans.
my honest opinion is slightly bigger clans is a better solution then smaller clans, but nobody puts any thought into, they just spout out ideas with no logic...
think about it, komo wanted to make a new clan to promot activity.. sorry, didnt really do much... now those guys just have a hard time finding a mate online, and when they do, they have a hard time find a clan that has a mate online....
and you want to make clans smaller, so there is less chances to have mates online??? does anyone see where im going with this..
times have changed people... we are not going to have a variety of having 10-20 different clans to play with any more...
maybe if Oo merged with sL and tdc merged with NBR we might have some activity on the league... then we will have Oo/sL, tdc/nbr, dt, boo, cfc.... might be playing same clans, but at least a variety of players...
when dt plays Oo... its ALWAYS same 2 guys... when dt plays tdc, the same...
merge up if you guys wanna do something for clanner league.... because i honestly dont think smaller clans is the answer.... maybe if everyone was super active, sure... but its 2017, not 2002... sorry guys! spleen, again.. go join a clan.
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If we won't change something so we won'y have clanner POs anymore ;D
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So, whats your opinion on what i just said Chelsea???
im curious what other people think too...
do you think for example 10 small, maybe 3-4 person clans has more potential to increase clanner activity??
or do you think less clans.. example 5 clans, with 6-10 people per clan has more potential for increased activity??
as i said above, i really think larger clans is the answer... who really cares if your playing the same clans more frequent... at least it would most likely be different people each time... and the fact of the matter is, when your online with a clan mate of your own, your going to have increased chances to find a clan that is also online with at least 1 other clan mate.
a bunch of small clans at first thought seems like a great idea, but if anyone actually thinks about it, i think they would quickly realize it would decrease the chances of not only having a clan mate of your own online, but also finding a clan that has 2 members available when you do.
so, what is other peoples opinions?? and if you disagree with me, lets hear some reasons why.. maybe you can change my opinion.
but, i do think something has to be done... clanner activity is going down hill, and we need to figure out a way to turn that around.
i really think some of these smaller, less active clans should merge together... make a bigger clan so you can actually play clanner...
example: chelsea, when is the last time you were on wnet, and had one of your clan mates online??? how often does that actually happen??? and when it does, is it easy for you to find a clanner???
say what you guys want about dt having a wopping 6 members playing clanners, but maybe we are on to something?? maybe others should follow our lead ;D notice we generally have most games played? just sayin'
ps: this entire thread should be moved to a more appropriate forum.. im gonna PM D1 to see if he can do that, so others see this conversation, and hopefully get involved.
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1. small clans but not 3-4 members but 4-5 members.
3-4 members is not enought but 6-10 members is too much
large clans? lol and will be 2 clans in POs -> TdC and dt -_-
St is so inactive (only me + komo are online sometimes), but if we have 2-3 more members who are a bit active we could be in POs.
My idea is to rest all clans members and let's everything start again -> we will have in clans only active members and limists max 5 members.
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You know my opinion avirex ^^
And ofc u know how Oo was founded and why ;) (Check Oo clanners before talk mate cos we didnt play a clan with same Oo mates always ).
About dt, i dont think they should separate in 2 dif clans but a big YES about dont recruit more players.
About TdC, all my respect cos only 2 players are doing an effort to doing the best.
About St, I hope Komo come back soon or recruit 1 more player to play with Chelsea.
About cFc, they will play few games, I hope to be wrong ^^ wb.
About Boo, its DED ( Excuse me my lovely cousin & come back ).
About HCP, its easy that RoH & CF back that these nice guys want to play classic league, and its not a problem, they r not bad but wont play, then respect it.
About NBR, spleen can get wally when he returns, force Gab to play and all good ;) I wish it.
About dp, csongi & kinslayer are trying it, i think ^^
Others, dunno, but we need activity 1st of start speaking about clans.
Salut.
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Avi, I agree that larger clans would be ideal but I'm not sure we have enough active players to do it, we'd still end up with only 2 or 3 clans really competing. What we really need is more new players in general, but that doesn't look like happening.
I mean it could possibly work for a while, let's say if Oo merged with St, maybe FUB and dP make a team, maybe AeF could merge with cFc/Boo and squeeze the last activity out of that group of players... dt can stay as it is and TdC could maybe just find 1-2 more players as a backup... the league would be active for a while but then before long we just run into the same problems again.
If clans were limited to 4-5 players, then there would hopefully be more of a fight for playoff spots, which would make the league more interesting and encourage people to play more. You only really need 2 or 3 active players to get to 40 games, as TdC have proved (and they normally play a lot more). I don't agree that activity will suffer, the idea being that people team up with others who are generally online at similar times (for example, have the brazillians of dt in one clan and the europeans in another). So instead of 2 clans reaching 100 games you'd have maybe 6 reaching 40-50 games, meaning more clanners in total.
There would obviously be more clan-hopping, clans reforming into new clans when players go inactive or whatever, the days of large clans with long histories would be over, but it might help activity in the long run. I like to think it might also encourage new players to make their own clans, or for existing clans to recruit new players to help their activity mid-season... but maybe I am being optimistic here considering we never have any new players coming to the league anyway.
Another minor change I'd like to see in clanner league: Get rid of the overall ratings for clans in each scheme, and use the player's classic league stats instead (with clanner games also affecting individual players points in each scheme). So for example instead of dt having a single ranking in elite, the points won/lost would be different depending on whether it's dibz and avi playing or aladdin and knightz, or whatever. Might encourage clans to recruit newer players, or be more creative with their line-ups in order to get more points. It would also eliminate situations like we had a couple years ago, when sbaffo and dibz both left dt to make 420, and starting getting an insane amount of points for beating everyone in ttrr because their skill-level in singles wasn't being taken into account.
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komo wanted to make a new clan to promot activity.. sorry, didnt really do much... now those guys just have a hard time finding a mate online, and when they do, they have a hard time find a clan that has a mate online....
At the time it did work actually.
But Sniper just suddenly vanished, and Korydex is off to University.
I can't account for that :D
I've gave Chelsea permission to recruit anyone he wants, I told him this a while ago.
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I've gave Chelsea permission to recruit anyone he wants, I told him this a while ago.
Join Jot... ops he is inactive xD hmmm maybe Almog ops he doesn't wanna be in any clan xD hmmm so maybe Crash? also inactive :/
HHC won't leave che, Berria won't leave TdC, Csongi won't leave dP.... hmmm dunno who else xD
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HHC won't leave che
In soviet Russia che leaves HHC :'(
edit: terrible!
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So, because other clans don't/can't recruit members... dt should remove some
**scratches head**
I think the bottom line is, there is not enough people playing clanner games actively.
I would be curious to see how many individual players played more then 5 clanner games this season... 20 people maybe?
Let's make 10 clans 2 members each 🤔
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Chelsea just wants dt to split cos he got kicked out, spleen is pizzasheet 2.5. In fact nobody cares dt is owning those seasons, doesn't matter if they play with 2 dudes or with avis complete hood. This whole league is a dumpster fire, why should we debate about which garbage is the most fire resistent? Just pour some gasoline and dance around the fire.
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spleen is pizzasheet 2.5.
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Chelsea just wants dt to split cos he got kicked out, spleen is pizzasheet 2.5. In fact nobody cares dt is owning those seasons, doesn't matter if they play with 2 dudes or with avis complete hood. This whole league is a dumpster fire, why should we debate about which garbage is the most fire resistent? Just pour some gasoline and dance around the fire.
This is applaud-worthy :D
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that was a good post peja lol. made me laugh.
anyway... i was thinking about this while in the shower this morning...
me and komo *gasp* tried making a 2v2 league, with random groups of 4 with anyone who signed up....
i think there was about 30 people that signed up?? if that??? less then 20 that actually played... and to be honest, the smaller groups made it harder to find your mate online, and then to find another team that had 2 players online...
so, that idea was kind of trashed in peja gasoline fire pit.
things can just go on as they are, until W:A dies i suppose.
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avi, maybe that idea would have worked if we had a kickass site to go with it, I mean, the idea was solid, but honestly our presentation was sh*t lol.
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i was thinking about this while in the shower this morning...
me and komo *gasp*
uhhuh uhhuh ???
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i was thinking about this while in the shower this morning...
me and komo *gasp*
uhhuh uhhuh ???
dont worry im thinking about you in the shower when its morning and in the bed when its night :-*
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Lmfao!!
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Komo, yeah.. maybe it would have been better with a nice website..
ok, not maybe... there is no doubt it would have been better...
but the first 2 weeks, people were excited, and looking for games.. i can remember, any time another team had 2 people online, i did not have a mate...
and when i did have a mate (pretty sure senator was on my team, cant remember who else) we could not find a team that had 2 people online...
i think i had a pretty good idea, and no1 really commented... i think someone said we already have my idea, its called 2v2 league... but maybe they did not understand???
in case anyone missed it: make it possible to play 2v2 with any groups of players, and your still representing your clan....
example: me and dibz play vs lales (Oo) and senator (tdc) if they win, they get half the points for each clan, and a .5 win towards their win/loss record.
if dt were to win, we would get full points, full win/loss because we are a complete team...
this way even when people do not have their mate online, they can still play clanners, representing their personal clan, no matter who their team mate is... (no this is not 2v2 league... the 2v2 league games translate to your singles rating, not your clans rating)
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Yeah it's a really good idea the 2v2 thing split points.
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The point is that people grew up, have their stuffs to do in first plan and WA is in 2nd plan though and it is senseless talk about spliting dt out because we will never do that (at least right now) just because some people think its right to do(lol) like avi said before we discussed about that few weeks ago among dt memebrs and it didnt go forward. The problem is that people don't care about WA anymore, some ppl work, study, have kids, got in jail lol etc. So, how do you guys suggest to bring back oldschools back to wa and make it active again or force them to play?
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That 2v2 idea is excellent.. where the clans split the points. That would really help activity.
I also like the idea where individual classic stats are taken into account for clan games.
I'd say max 6 active players per clan sounds about right.. would that cause any serious grief with anyone?
How about some kind of "draft lottery" - each season 1 non-playoff clan that played at least 20 games is randomly selected (weighted by standings) to draft any player (of their choosing) who played less than 10 games from one of the playoff teams. The drafted player must remain with that clan for at least 1 season. The specific details would have to be fine-tuned obviously..