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Title: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: haddaway on August 18, 2021, 07:48 PM
Cakewalk
Title: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
check his ip or something plz, he's a 99% fake, who runs away immediately....
If I would play at day time Your ass probably would be kicked....
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 18, 2021, 07:51 PM
Cakewalk
Who are U coward?
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: haddaway on August 18, 2021, 08:07 PM
If I would play at day time Your ass probably would be kicked....

Don't Let Anger Consume You

Who are U coward?

Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 18, 2021, 08:17 PM
U're scared to say who U are? Making an allias account is so idiotic, only cowards hiding by fake nicks.
At night I don't play serious games so I don't care about that 1 round, further more I don't play with cowards at all.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: haddaway on August 18, 2021, 09:59 PM
If you don't know who Haddaway is your knowledge of popular music is limited. Do your research before calling people names.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 18, 2021, 10:48 PM
If you don't know who Haddaway is your knowledge of popular music is limited. Do your research before calling people names.

U still gonna play stupid? Be my guest. For me You're a coward, that's it.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 18, 2021, 11:22 PM
As much as I enjoy seeing a good upset and Rafka squirming, this is clearly a fake account and should be deleted, the same guy who aliased as SIBASA and the same guy who was Kokomo.

This alias clearly feels they are having a lot of fun, though it's becoming a nuisance now and disrupting official games and must be dealt with.

I imagine, and hope this game will be deleted soon, Rafka, just take a step back and carry on as normal. I am sure MonkeyIsland will deal with it.

Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 19, 2021, 12:16 AM

I imagine, and hope this game will be deleted soon, Rafka, just take a step back and carry on as normal. I am sure MonkeyIsland will deal with it.

I'll do that.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: rUNaW4y on August 19, 2021, 06:46 AM
Sometimes falling is necessary to break down our own pride, isn't it? Sometimes we forget about the main aim of this game and this is a good opportunity to change the way it is! Just forget for a moment about rankings and medals and simply get fun by playing against someone who is (maybe) better than you.
"For every man who gives himself a high place will be put down, but he who takes a low place will be lifted up."
This is a good way to grow up. Stay in peace.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 19, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sometimes falling is necessary to break down our own pride, isn't it? Sometimes we forget about the main aim of this game and this is a good opportunity to change the way it is! Just forget for a moment about rankings and medals and simply get fun by playing against someone who is (maybe) better than you.
"For every man who gives himself a high place will be put down, but he who takes a low place will be lifted up."
This is a good way to grow up. Stay in peace.

for 1) he's not better, not from what I've seen
for 2) Read text first, it's not about loosing, but hiding behind false nicks, which is againts the reg. dude
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: rUNaW4y on August 19, 2021, 09:18 AM
Sometimes falling is necessary to break down our own pride, isn't it? Sometimes we forget about the main aim of this game and this is a good opportunity to change the way it is! Just forget for a moment about rankings and medals and simply get fun by playing against someone who is (maybe) better than you.
"For every man who gives himself a high place will be put down, but he who takes a low place will be lifted up."
This is a good way to grow up. Stay in peace.

for 1) he's not better, not from what I've seen
for 2) Read text first, it's not about loosing, but hiding behind false nicks, which is againts the reg. dude

Your statements are  contradictory and still demonstrate it is about loosing and/or winning, otherwise you would have simply avoid putting emphasis on it. Alias or not alias, what would change in case of this defeat? However, I am not going to deal with this business. As I said, stay in peace. Sometimes the silence is better than screaming. Peace again.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: haddaway on August 19, 2021, 10:03 AM
In case you didn't know, there are online games where aliasing is allowed. One example is Heroes 3 HotA. That game has over 1000 players online on average, tournaments with huge cash prizes, lots of streamers. Many players use aliases there and nobody considers it evil. But for some reason on TUS-WA aliasing falls into the same category as cheating, which is crazy.

But anyway, follow whatever rules you like, I'm done with this league.

Also, take it easy Rafka, this is just a computer game.

See you on WormNET!
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Albus on August 19, 2021, 10:12 AM
I played Heroes 3 long time ago. I was surprised when I saw so many viewers of this game on twtich. Someday I will come back to play this game more often.

Aliasing is something that should be better discussed. I recently was informed that you are allowed to create a new TUS account at any time, as long as you no longer play with the old one. Someone confirm me if I'm wrong.

I am in favor of increasing game activity. If someone wants to play with ALIAS as a condition to play the league, I don't care. For me, the important thing is to have more activity.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 19, 2021, 11:06 AM
Personally I find aliasing fun when it is not used to abuse Leagues and official statistics/standings. When you start creating multiple accounts on a League and start winning/losing games, you are affecting real statistics.

I'm not interested in the slightest what other games and sports do and do not allow. This is Worms Armageddon, not Heroes 3 HotA.

What I am interested in, is the fairness of competition, a balanced League with as accurate statistics as possible.

In this game, a players strengths and weaknesses are very important.

It's impossible to cover every scenario in schemes like Intermediate, Elite, Hysteria, BnG, etc. Knowing how your opponent plays is very important, when you study and understand your opponents strengths and weaknesses you will play certain ways yourself, you will avoid putting yourself in positions where your opponents strengths are amplified, and will try to put yourself in positions where your opponents weaknesses are amplified.

Not to mention, this is currently speaking an allround league, as far as how this system works, an alias has a clear advantage when it comes to picking scheme as they will know their opponents strengths and weaknesses, though their opponent will not know theirs.

Personally speaking I thought it was funny and interesting at first, now you're taking the joke too far and wasting everyones time.

Also there is a difference between someone changing their identity once and sticking to it to leave behind their past, and creating multiple accounts while generally being an idiot.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 19, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sometimes falling is necessary to break down our own pride, isn't it? Sometimes we forget about the main aim of this game and this is a good opportunity to change the way it is! Just forget for a moment about rankings and medals and simply get fun by playing against someone who is (maybe) better than you.
"For every man who gives himself a high place will be put down, but he who takes a low place will be lifted up."
This is a good way to grow up. Stay in peace.

for 1) he's not better, not from what I've seen
for 2) Read text first, it's not about loosing, but hiding behind false nicks, which is againts the reg. dude

Your statements are  contradictory and still demonstrate it is about loosing and/or winning, otherwise you would have simply avoid putting emphasis on it. Alias or not alias, what would change in case of this defeat? However, I am not going to deal with this business. As I said, stay in peace. Sometimes the silence is better than screaming. Peace again.

It would change much... Komito gave a good point here.

fake haddaway - alliasing is forbidden not only on tus but in FTM, ONL and CWT too, pretty much everywhere.
Further more, I played H3 too, I was a pro in this game and in Polish leagues when their existed long time ago, also alliasing was forbidden.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: SIBASA on August 19, 2021, 02:22 PM
Rafka, did you agree in advance about this game with this user and check the availability of his account on TUS before playing? Have you offered or accepted a challenge from an unknown player without looking at their profile?

Yeah, I think this is a fake account, but in any case, you yourself agreed to this game, so what questions could there be? If you won, you wouldn't be indignant and ask to cancel the game, right?)
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Perdunok on August 19, 2021, 02:34 PM
I noticed that Rafka plays TUS only in Normal, I think this is not fair, since both players take turns choosing the schemes they would like to play. If I play something badly, or I don't know the scheme very well, I still agree to play it. Rafka is freaking out, because he lost, I watched this game, Haddaway really played very well! In addition, he had a very unfortunate arrangement of worms, worms near barrels. Yes, it's probably fake, but Rafka played much worse than him. ))
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 19, 2021, 05:00 PM
It's against the reg, thats the point here, he's a fake , nothing else matters.
I played worse, because I played late  and I woudnt play at all that late if I new he's real identity.
About other schemes, it's fair, cause I play with those who also agrees/picks inter.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 19, 2021, 05:25 PM
I played worse, because I played late

No, you played worse because you played worse.

Edit:

Also, you are literally admitting that you are a noob basher. Basically if you knew who it was and how good they were, you would have avoided them, only playing noobs late at night.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like alias players in Leagues either, though Rafka, if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 19, 2021, 11:13 PM
I played worse, because I played late

No, you played worse because you played worse.

Edit:

Also, you are literally admitting that you are a noob basher. Basically if you knew who it was and how good they were, you would have avoided them, only playing noobs late at night.

And stupid games maybe U play, not me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like alias players in Leagues either, though Rafka, if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

NO, I played worse because it was late.
And NO, I just dont play with strong/top players at evening/night, so don't say lies, cause that's difference, with quite good players happens to play, even with those that I don't know, sometimes happens good fight.
I said not once about that, so leave it.

Anless wanna argue more? Le'ts go for it, cause it seems U really like that. I won't let U say shit and shit and shit over again without a word from me.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: giJo on August 20, 2021, 12:59 AM
Quote
Anless wanna argue more? Le'ts go for it, cause it seems U really like that. I won't let U say shit and shit and shit over again without a word from me.
here we go
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 20, 2021, 09:14 AM
Rafka, you lost because the alias played better than you.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Saint on August 20, 2021, 10:31 AM
he just relaxed, thinking that this is another noob :D
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 20, 2021, 11:44 AM
he just relaxed, thinking that this is another noob :D

Rafka is never relaxed. I wouldn't be surprised if he dreams about Intermediate world championships on an eSports scale. (This is not an insult, i've had plenty WA dreams lol)
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Saint on August 20, 2021, 12:11 PM
then, this guy really plays better, and no matter that he uses a different name,the meaning of the game does not change from this.I want them to play a rematch ;D
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 20, 2021, 01:06 PM
then, this guy really plays better, and no matter that he uses a different name,the meaning of the game does not change from this.I want them to play a rematch ;D

If you mean, the outcome of the game would be the same alias or not, as in, the other guy is simply better than Rafka, then I agree, considering some of us believe it is SirJ, and SirJ is one of the greatest allround players of all time, one of the very few who can match Mablak in TTRR and also a top Intermediate player when on form.(I don't have evidence for this, it's my shared educated guess)

However, alias games are still messing with statistics and disrespecting the League.

What would be nice, is if SirJ could play with his real name(I don't have evidence for this, it's my shared educated guess), though he can't, because he's been banned for using TOR.

This person could really help fuel healthy activity by using their real identify.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 20, 2021, 04:52 PM
Bullshit, I played worse because it was late and I was tired, and further more I didn't expect an allias. At day time I play deffinetly better. He just won 1 round , unexpected, that doesnt mean anything more than that he just won 1 round, taking me by surpruse at late time.
I'll be glad to kick his ass at day time, if he tell me who he is..... LET'S FIGHT!

Btw, I doubt that's Sir-J. I won him 4-1 in games. Taking account all games (including before my WA few years break) that's even 5-1.
But on sec. thought, when I'm tired couple of pros might win, especially taking by surprise... (when I see first time some dude, I don't concentrate to much, normally dont need to...)
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 20, 2021, 04:55 PM
he just relaxed, thinking that this is another noob :D

I'll just say that I though it's not gonna be tough ;d
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: VoK on August 20, 2021, 04:58 PM
Bullshit, I played worse because it was late and I was tired, and further more I didn't expect an allias. At day time I play deffinetly better. He just won 1 round , unexpected, that doesnt mean anything more than that he just won 1 round, taking me by surpruse at late time.
I'll be glad to kick his ass at day time, if he tell me who he is..... LET'S FIGHT!

Btw, I doubt that's Sir-J. I won him 4-1 in games. Taking account all games (including before my WA few years break) that's even 5-1.
But on sec. thought, when I'm tired couple of pros might win, especially taking by surprise... (when I see first time some dude, I don't concentrate to much, normally dont need to...)

So its ok when you are "tired" and bashh some random new comers? No need be so pro :D
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 20, 2021, 05:21 PM
Sure Rafka, it's because you were "tired" lol.

Hint hint, wink wink, NUDGE NUDGE...  ;)

Whoever that is, they are better than you, just because it was a bit later at night doesn't change anything. Other than you being a noob basher by your own logic, of course.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheWalrus on August 20, 2021, 05:53 PM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 21, 2021, 06:08 PM
Sure Rafka, it's because you were "tired" lol.

Hint hint, wink wink, NUDGE NUDGE...  ;)

Whoever that is, they are better than you, just because it was a bit later at night doesn't change anything. Other than you being a noob basher by your own logic, of course.

You're stupidity and thinking U know everything is hilarious indeed ;D
U can say and repeat that bullthis if U feel better, but from what I saw he's not better in anything. He doesn't show anything special tbh :) I just played bad, that's all.

And noobasher maybe U are, not me... At day time I play with everypros that I can find and I played tons of games with pros, but U know that. U're showing again how big LIER U are, who loves turn the facts around, obviously that's not the first time. U think U are so respected by all players? Think again, but I won't say anything more. Dream on with blinkers how great guy U are haha.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 21, 2021, 06:16 PM
Bullshit, I played worse because it was late and I was tired, and further more I didn't expect an allias. At day time I play deffinetly better. He just won 1 round , unexpected, that doesnt mean anything more than that he just won 1 round, taking me by surpruse at late time.
I'll be glad to kick his ass at day time, if he tell me who he is..... LET'S FIGHT!

Btw, I doubt that's Sir-J. I won him 4-1 in games. Taking account all games (including before my WA few years break) that's even 5-1.
But on sec. thought, when I'm tired couple of pros might win, especially taking by surprise... (when I see first time some dude, I don't concentrate to much, normally dont need to...)

So its ok when you are "tired" and bashh some random new comers? No need be so pro :D

What's the point playing with top players when I'm tired? Move Your head first before U say something stupid.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 21, 2021, 06:17 PM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.

Avoider is U , not me... How many times I asked U for a game? No respons, obviously avoider is U haha
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 21, 2021, 06:59 PM
*words...*

You literally just wrote that you are a noob basher with words from the English language. You literally said you avoid playing good players late at night:

I just dont play with strong/top players at evening/night

You literally said that, and your statistics prove it, both on TUS and on ONL.

Nobody is denying that you are a good player, you ARE a very good player, though you still do things that piss a lot of other players off. If I was lying or making it up, then there wouldn't be other players saying the same things over and over and over since CWT 2020 last year when I become fascinated by the Intermediate community.

You were caught abusing the TUS system and had 12 games deleted(or did you forget about that?).

You literally admitted you don't play strong/top players at evening/night(it's in this very thread!).

You are infamously difficult to organize matches with(even moreso rematches) by testimony of other players, not me.

You recently threw a hissy fit when Albus beat you in the 80hp Tournament because you "done a Rafka(plopped your own worm)" and blamed it on your keyboard resulting in him giving you the win just to shut you up.

There has been countless arguments involving you with other players without me even being a part of it.

There is literally evidence of all of those things I just said.



You're a nice guy so long as you don't lose, whenever you lose, you turn into something else...
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Gabriel on August 21, 2021, 07:34 PM
Whoever took the time to create an account and bait Rafka, good job. On the other hand, it shows (apparently) how easy it is to create an alias account and just give no f@#!s, just like... I forgot the name, but one of the guys was named Kokomo.

I always wondered why a clan full of nice people like NNN (I got to know Dario, Kilobyte, Kayz, and a bunch of others) would let in an obnoxious person like Rafka (or even Bytor, back in the day). Are skills alone a good reason? (It's an honest question, I'm not trying to judge).

Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 21, 2021, 07:43 PM
The alias games will be void.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: giJo on August 21, 2021, 09:06 PM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.

Avoider is U , not me... How many times I asked U for a game? No respons, obviously avoider is U haha

this whole tread shows that avoiding you isn't a really bad idea
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Kradie on August 21, 2021, 09:22 PM
It is pathetic and low to alias.

Whoever who has alis now has brought great disrespect to this community.

It/they are probably thriving on this thread as well.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheWalrus on August 21, 2021, 10:58 PM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.

Avoider is U , not me... How many times I asked U for a game? No respons, obviously avoider is U haha
1.  I’m not active in league, my last played games were like 3 years ago, so yes I guess I am avoiding everyone on tus, I am #1 best avoider, agree.

2.  I’m an allround player who likes allround league, I’m not interested in playing marginally talented players who can only play one scheme well.

3.  My list of players I have played is incrementally superior to yours. 

4.  I hope you can avoid less in the future and stop making it about other inactive people, gl!  :-*
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 22, 2021, 07:47 AM
*words...*

You literally just wrote that you are a noob basher with words from the English language. You literally said you avoid playing good players late at night:

I just dont play with strong/top players at evening/night

You literally said that, and your statistics prove it, both on TUS and on ONL.

Nobody is denying that you are a good player, you ARE a very good player, though you still do things that piss a lot of other players off. If I was lying or making it up, then there wouldn't be other players saying the same things over and over and over since CWT 2020 last year when I become fascinated by the Intermediate community.

You were caught abusing the TUS system and had 12 games deleted(or did you forget about that?).

You literally admitted you don't play strong/top players at evening/night(it's in this very thread!).

You are infamously difficult to organize matches with(even moreso rematches) by testimony of other players, not me.

You recently threw a hissy fit when Albus beat you in the 80hp Tournament because you "done a Rafka(plopped your own worm)" and blamed it on your keyboard resulting in him giving you the win just to shut you up.

There has been countless arguments involving you with other players without me even being a part of it.

There is literally evidence of all of those things I just said.



You're a nice guy so long as you don't lose, whenever you lose, you turn into something else...


Dude, with Albus I told not once that my keyboard broke, I know the truth cause it happened, U know shit and still U are spreading lies about that without ANY PROOF, thats pathetic.
I dont play with top/strong players at evenigs/night, cause I'm tired, more than that I don't like to play at that time .Of course I said that but I also said that at day time I play mostly with strong/top players... so your words were a lie.... U're saying about 1 thing without including the other which makes it a LIE. In fact at atevenings I play not only with those that I didnt play with yet, but sometimes also with quite good players too, just not the real higher skilled ones.
Besides... when I play and my time play in general, is not Your bloody business, everyone plays when they want to/like to, so f@#! off.

Abusing was a 1 time mistake and I said that, so what? U didn't make mistakes?

With most of players I dont have any problem to schedule a game... and again - its not Your bloody business.

Besides that - I like to play with top/strong/good players but also players that I didn't play with yet, that doesn't make me noobasher, in fact some of them appeard quite good level.
Some weak players wants to play with me (proposing not first time) and I agree, woudn't be fair if I wouldnt agree, but I don't propose myself a league game to noobs/weak players which I won few times. Anyway STILL - it's not your business.

Btw. U constantly posting poisonous irritating comments on me in every occasion U see which is not healthy at all. I'll probably leave tus sooner or later if it's not gonna change. Before U appear I didn't have so many unpleasent things. You're poisonous and I don't wanna have anything to do with such ppl in any way.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 22, 2021, 07:54 AM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.

Avoider is U , not me... How many times I asked U for a game? No respons, obviously avoider is U haha
1.  I’m not active in league, my last played games were like 3 years ago, so yes I guess I am avoiding everyone on tus, I am #1 best avoider, agree.


That's a lie.
https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/TheWalrus/leagues/
U played in 2020. Didn't I ask U to play earlier? I think I did. I propose a game not once...  long time ago..and no respons.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: Rafka on August 22, 2021, 10:22 AM
I think I was clear enough, nothing more to add, I'm done here.
Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheKomodo on August 22, 2021, 10:41 AM
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Title: Re: Game #228112, reported by haddaway
Post by: TheWalrus on August 22, 2021, 02:35 PM
Homeboy basically implying he avoids players and noobbashes.  Not afraid to play noobs anytime, but when he plays skilled players, the planets must be aligned and Venus must be in retrograde.

Avoider is U , not me... How many times I asked U for a game? No respons, obviously avoider is U haha
1.  I’m not active in league, my last played games were like 3 years ago, so yes I guess I am avoiding everyone on tus, I am #1 best avoider, agree.


That's a lie.
https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/TheWalrus/leagues/
U played in 2020. Didn't I ask U to play earlier? I think I did. I propose a game not once...  long time ago..and no respons.
wow I played 2 games in 2 years, just wanted to play some games I think, can’t even remember those, nice research though.  sorry I didn’t call and schedule a game, I’m obviously very active and avoiding you.  You probably wouldn’t have been available though, it might have been to early or too late in the day or maybe it was raining outside so you couldn’t play.