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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: Mablak on November 26, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Guys, is using this WormKit feature legal? I never knew you could set water to transparent:
http://worms2d.info/Water_color_editor
I'd say we might as well allow it if it's usable, though it's kind of annoying to be relying on WK features.
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I'd say it's illegal since normally you have to guess whether you're already at the edge of some land placed at almost the same level as water is and this would give an unfair advantage. But this indeed is an interesting feature. : O
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I've been using the trasparent water for like 5 years (f@#! me, right?), you don't have to rely on wk modules, it's just a file that can be replaced.
I already asked aroud about this on I think xtc and everyone said it was alright since CS made the tool. So... yeah.
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I use it in RR, because I play with color background => 5 annoying waves, and you won't forbid me to do that :P
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I already asked aroud about this on I think xtc and everyone said it was alright since CS made the tool. So... yeah.
For the record, both Deadcode and CyberShadow consider using transparent water unfair, as far as I remember.
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I only know that you could remove the waves altogether in some Worms game, not sure if it was W2 or W:A or WWP, leaving only a "line" of water. Can someone make a screenshot of the "transparent water"? The link Mab provided only shows the editor not a transparent water pic.
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That is a transparent water sprite in the screenshot of the WKB article. If you look carefully, you'll see it's crosshatched, with only half the pixels solid and the rest see-through. But yeah, you can just make them all transparent too, then you're stuck with a single solid blue line slightly above the actual level of water. You can see that line through the waves in the screenshot too, it's where the bottom edge of the terrain cuts off.
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I didn't know about this. Thinking about all those Team17s my missiles exploded on myself.
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One fair advantage I can think of; if someone uses a roper map that happens to have some tough to see land on the bottom, people can know exactly where it is. It might be easier to allow it, since people are already using it >_>
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One fair advantage I can think of; if someone uses a roper map that happens to have some tough to see land on the bottom, people can know exactly where it is. It might be easier to allow it, since people are already using it >_>
Legalized drugs for everyone it is then!
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Sometimes water obstructs very low placed mines or long horizontal strips of land. Players have no way of telling if there's an object waiting to kill them once they are close enough, like in this case (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-131765/) (at 3:12). This is a clear flaw of the game, the outcome cannot be predicted nor countered under normal circumstances.
Transparent water solves this issue by making the game at least a tiny bit less unpredictable. Therefore, I think it should be allowed and encouraged.
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Sometimes water obstructs very low placed mines or long horizontal strips of land. Players have no way of telling if there's an object waiting to kill them once they are close enough, like in this case (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-131765/) (at 3:12). This is a clear flaw of the game, the outcome cannot be predicted nor countered under normal circumstances.
Transparent water solves this issue by making the game at least a tiny bit less unpredictable. Therefore, I think it should be allowed and encouraged.
in before HHC's "luck and unpredictability makes games fun"
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That is actually true when it comes to cats. I love the thrill that I don't know when my cat will enrage and try to kill me. :D
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in before HHC's "luck and unpredictability makes games fun"
I lol'd. :D
The point which barman made is pretty good, I agree with him. Should be legalized and maybe even put down in the TUS rules with a how-to. Everyone who tried Intermediate should know there can be invisible mines on very low ground and it can be very frustrating at times.
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Yarrrrrrrrrrr!
Transparent water is so clear, All the preachers must now beware, Albeit i could hardly care...VISIBLE WATER IS BLOODY FAIR ! So if you fail to comprehend and try to flee like a hare.. I shall real soon be intoxicated with ur TEARS !
The choice is up to you !
Yaarrrrrrrr!
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Yarrrrrrrrrrr!
Transparent water is so clear, All the preachers must now beware, Albeit i could hardly care...VISIBLE WATER IS BLOODY FAIR ! So if you fail to comprehend and try to flee like a hare.. I shall real soon be intoxicated with ur TEARS !
The choice is up to you !
Yaarrrrrrrr!
Adopting an internet personality at the age of 13 can only prove one thing.
Issues.
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Yarr ! Avast my crew ! Set sail for Espana ! We have some good old fashioned keelhailing to do YARRRRRRRRRRRRRR