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Leagues => Leagues General => Topic started by: MonkeyIsland on November 01, 2008, 05:32 PM
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Hey guys
Here's the first idea about league.
What schemes really should be in the league? Do you like SSR to be allowed to be picked in league? BungeeRace? Hysteria?
1st option :
Including these schemes in our league. (and more schemes)
2st option:
Having 2 kind of leagues.
Maybe one called : Classic League
Another : Free League (Freelance ? :D)
The names says what they are all about.
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i like your idea about 2 leagues, maybe you can have a misc scheme that changes by a vote at the end of each season for the classic league, i think the classic league should be the regular league schemes... roper,t17,elite,ttrr,bng,shoppa, and maybe hysteria and intermediate, and see what schemes the community wants for the free league
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I honestly don't know what to do for leagues, as I never participated in one, or seen how they work, as long as it works and is popular, then fine by me :)
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I like Wokka's idea, but it has one little problem: if the free league is the one that has the rare schemes, it will be kinda inactive as those schemes are played not by that many players. But I say we should give it a go!
One league for "popular schemes": T17, Elite/Pro, Bng, RR, WxW/Shopper, Roper as in XTC + I think we should talk about Intermediate and Hysteria.
The problem in my point of view with those schemes is that the worms are placed randomly in both. But maybe hysteria with telestart and instant mines would be ok!
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yeah should definitley add teleport at the begining if ur gonna add those two
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but telestart to 1 sec too XD
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vn idea about the 2 leagues, but as x-ray said, i doubt the free league will be v popular but can try it anyway :) for the "normal" league i think we should add intermediate to the usual schemes (without porting at start coz thats not how its played...) , hysteria dunno...i dont like it v much :P
and for the free league i would say every scheme is allowed, hence the name ;)
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if the free league is the one that has the rare schemes, it will be kinda inactive as those schemes are played not by that many players.
I meant by free league, A league with all schemes including the schemes in the classic league.
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But you know how we should do the free league? Like that:
Every season is a month. The classic league is played just like XTC or any normal league.
But the other one: a different scheme every season. Maybe it could be chosen randomly by the site. Or would last for two week only.
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I'm thinking a free league would be like people could pick whatever scheme they like. (Known schemes, not inventing schemes)
How you mean a different scheme every season ?
P.S One of my reasons for a free league is to make other schemes more popular.
For example I've seen so much possible strategy in the mole shopper scheme. But this scheme is known as a "fun scheme" like BnA.
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Mole Shopper is very 'serious' scheme, not a 'lucky' fun scheme as BnA is.. I hope you have learned that by playing with me! 8)
Anyway, as I've suggested in the other topic "u could somehow 'connect' leagues and tourneys by having a leagues for different schemes, beside the regular one, or smth like that..." - I haven't thought much about this, but I think that every scheme could have separated 'league'... don't know how much complicated that would be, but in the end u could have results for every scheme separated and on the other side results with total amount of points as for a single players, as for the clans...
In this way clans (or singles) would play bo3 for only one scheme that they agree to play... or 2 games of bo3 , everyone choose 1 scheme...
And that way u could have all the schemes that u want to in the league...
If u ask me I would put all the schemes that was played in WO this year and let them become popular or not by chance... sure there would be mole shopper, even plop war, wascar, ctf, wfw...
bring it on ! ;)
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Well, It is not possible to have individual league for each scheme. But that doesn't mean we can't have each scheme 'results' or 'statistics'.
Schemes like mole shopper, walk for weapons ... They will be included in the free league, free for everyone to pick.
Each scheme will have its own page of results ...
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i think the 2nd option is nice,free league is a great idea if it "would be like people could pick whatever scheme they like" and if we have result of each scheme in free league it will be great. ::)
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it would be cool but might get a little messy, i think theres way too many schemes to be able to add them all, schemes like comet dodging i think would be pointless to add, wfw, bungee, mole, ssr, ctf and forts would all be good ones to add (and some others ofcourse) and what about the clan league, will there be seperate clan leagues for the classic and free league? a rotated league might be cool too (a league thats just one scheme a month and changes by vote)
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might be a bit too much, 3 leagues^^ maybe u can do it like fb did, that theres some misc scheme that changes every month which is announced before the season starts.
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Actually I'm enjoying to have all these ideas now. Thanks for them ^^
Personally have no problem with 3 kinds of legaue --> 6 leagues total (clanners and singles)
But the question is how much the site would be crowded ?
I hate the leagues which no one plays them.
In the programming world, I made this site till now sooner than expected. The reason was I saw people are registering and I didn't like to make people wait. (I don't like someone make me wait ;) )
I will create all these 3 type of leagues (sounds fine to me), But the real question is how many people would be playing them?
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Here's what i think
regular league, rotated OR free league (not both), clan league with regular schemes. I think that's enough, having more would just be messy and not active enough.
@MonkeyIsland: I also think we should discuss points and ratings system and that kind of stuff. Or did u already decide about it?
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I haven't.
If you don't mind start a new thread about it.
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I will create all these 3 type of leagues (sounds fine to me), But the real question is how many people would be playing them?
i think the classic league would be most active by far, rotated would be less active probably like WEL, if you do rotated you should probably stick to the classic schemes along with maybe a few of the more popular free league schemes and i dont think you need a clan section for rotated either i doubt it would get played... unless there ends up alot more clans on wormnet
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I myself am more into a free league. I think a rotate scheme would work best for the "CUPS" section of the site.
Choosing what to play between classic or free league, depends on the person or the clan taste or what mood they are in that moment. That's what I'm thinking atm.
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yeah i think putting it in cups is a good idea
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i agree
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Yes, I totally agree too.
So if I could understand well: the rare schemes would go to Cups, one classic league for the six basic schemes and one rotated league for the basic schemes and a few more, like Intermediate, Hysteria? That sounds perfect for me.
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emm I guess not exactly that :)
One Classic League
One Free League
The Free League will contain all the schemes(That we define, Not ANY scheme), Including all the classic league schemes.
It means that in a free league your opponent can pick BnG but you can challenge him to a Bungeerace.
Rotated schemes, All will go to the site CUPS section. They can be rare schemes or not ;), All rotatings will go to CUPS.
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and how do you want to put these together? I mean that winning the classic league is more important than winning the free league in my opinion, and if there is an overall standing table, where someone beats another player by picking Bungeerace 30 times in free league... that just doesnt sound too fair :\
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I don't get this part actually.
Winning by playing 30 times BnG or TTRR sounds fair but by BungeeRace it doesn't ?
I think classic and free are equal.
Like wrestling, you know? There are 2 types, don't know what you call them
In one type you are not allowed to beat your opponent by using his legs (grabbing or so...) (Classic)
In the other you are allowed to do more things. (Free)
I've seen people who like the classic one more, or like the Free one more.
The only reason IMO that people do not like an scheme is their lack of practice. Can you name someone who know how to play bungeerace and dislikes it at the same time too?
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and if there is an overall standing table, where someone beats another player by picking Bungeerace 30 times in free league... that just doesnt sound too fair :\
thats why each player picks a scheme, a bungee pro can pick bungee, but they would have to play your scheme too
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how about limiting the amount of scheme picks per player in the free league, that would solve the problem...like u can only pick bungee race 8 times per season.
edit: but just like monkey said, same thing in the normal league when some1 always picks the same schemes^^ of course ppl pick the scheme that they think they most likely win in
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Hey,
Good ideas here.I think ladder system should be better if you guys going to create more than two leagues.Actually,God2k was going for this 2 years ago but he didn't find some coders to do that.
For an example:Default Ladder,include default schemes;Elite,Intermediate,Team17,BnG,Dabble,Hysteria,etc...
Rope Ladder,include rope schemes;Roper,Rope Race,Variation of Shoppers,Wascar,Bungee Race(xD),etc...
Pro Ladder,This is mix of Default and Rope Ladders.
You can also add Fun Ladder,There is many funny schemes for this like BnA,Boom Race,Battle Race,Mole Shopper,Golf,Wfw,Plopwar,Jetpack Race,etc...
But some schemes should be arranged to play fair in the league,like Hysteria,Dabble,Intermediate(NNN Luckless would be cool),etc...
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Isn't this ladder like people can pick only schemes in that specific ladder ?
If so I have no problem with that. But other people want it too ?
Doesn't it limit people playing specific ladders ? for example some people never want to play default ladder and always want to play rope ladder etc ...
I think people more want to have various options to pick.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
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It's just an old idea.If you and me play at default league we must pick one of these scheme(you can't pick any rope scheme,thats why its called default ladder).
People knows it's default ladder,so if he don't like playing default schemes then he wont join this league,he can join pro league.For an example;i don't like rope schemes a lot,so this league will be cool for defaulters,also NNN'ers closed their league for some issues.
I think you don't understand the ladder system or i didn't explain clearly,there will be at least 3 leagues(you can code more if you want).People will ask to other people "default ladder anyone?" at #Ag.Or "rope ladder ne1?".Or pro ladder.So if people don't want to play only default schemes they join to pro ladder and they can play all kind of schemes.Thats all.
Dunno about people,there is a lot of idea about league system,you can make a poll about that.
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I like Albino's idea.
Having regular and free league doesn't make any sense if u combine them for the standings at the end.
Different leagues/ladders - separate standings and separate playoffs.
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It was going to have separated standings in the first place.
I like the ladder idea too, But it still smells a bit like the rotate idea. Let's see what others say.
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i think its a cool idea, i know alot of people that like either just rope or just default, personally id probably just end up doing the pro league all the time tho because i like to mix it up, im not sure how active it would be, i dont think its been done before
i dont think this is like the rotated league, rotated is a single scheme that changes after every season
AND WTF IS DABBLE? :o
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i think its a cool idea, i know alot of people that like either just rope or just default, personally id probably just end up doing the pro league all the time tho because i like to mix it up, im not sure how active it would be, i dont think its been done before
i dont think this is like the rotated league, rotated is a single scheme that changes after every season
AND WTF IS DABBLE? :o
Yea,i agree about rotated league.
Dabble is a default scheme created by Lex afair.You can download it here.
http://www.nanacide.com/wahelp/scheme-dabble.php
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Ok, then we have some people to agree on ladder system.
Sense a vote must come along a bit more... xD
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cool im gonna go try dabble! :P
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ok, let me see :D
-Rope games : Shoppa, Flyshoppa, WxW, Roper, RRTT, Tower Race, Roping Style,
-"Terrain" games : Elite, Team17, Intermediate, BnG, Hysteria, Boom Race, BnA, WFW, Plopwar, Super Sheep Race, Holywar, Jetpack Race, Mine Madness / 250 Mines, Battle Race, Mine Dropper, Chute Race, Moleshoppa
I think these could be the schemes...hf^^ (btw : if some1 dont know 1 or more scheme, try to catch me on ag, or add me on msn, and we can play / i can show / i just can send u the scheme.... polenyak_adam@hotmail.com << MSN
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my scheme for elite......
Elitepack scheme: 101 energy start ,after end of round the water go up at min setting , very very slow.
is for me the best mod for elite scheme..... bye... 8)
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You should seperate the leauges depending on gameplay.
Intermidiate elite team 17 BnG gets 1 leauge
all roping schemes get a seperate leauge
Wfw ctf are very simulair to ech other to.
the rest are basicly unserius schemes so they can get 1 leauge
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i just made a post in playoff thread about free and classic standings and the problems. Now i just checked and they are just the single games of 'free alternative schemes being displayed' being displayed, thats cool.
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i just made a post in playoff thread...
it's the 'Seasons length' thread, not 'playoff' thread.. ;)
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oh yea, ty :P
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Here's my idea:
Reading some posts (and laughing at it)...
let's do 1 league for each scheme ;)
lol, its simply, a league must be for allrounders not for NNNs or nlFs ;)
Elite,BnG,T17,Roper,TTRR/RR,Shoppa/WxW
Then the Free part including all other schemes ;)
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Here's my idea:
Reading some posts (and laughing at it)...
let's do 1 league for each scheme ;)
lol, its simply, a league must be for allrounders not for NNNs or nlFs ;)
Elite,BnG,T17,Roper,TTRR/RR,Shoppa/WxW
Then the Free part including all other schemes ;)
have you ever thought bout showin us respect f4st ?
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1. you are not NNN, NNN members would be ashamed having some1 like you with them :P
2. he didnt show any disrespect.
3. stfu im tired of answering your nonsense shit
4. actually my own fault why do i even answer...
and one last thing doubletime, i dunno how many bans you got from leagues, forums and stuff (i know you got banned from nnn league and ultimate tourney site), doesnt that tell you somethg? dont you think you gotta change the way you act in some way?
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rofl, why after all my posts theres a Doublenerd post? I told ya i'm hetero man :)