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Title: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 06, 2009, 11:14 PM
Since XTC  died along with this idea I would like to have a roper league in here, we are many ropers that enjoy a good roping match so why not to have a special place for us.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 07, 2009, 12:00 PM
I don't know if this is going to be popular or not, I saw that the roper league XTC created was not that much popular, but I don't know...
It wouldn't be a big thing to make it I think, whatever the community wants... :)
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 07, 2009, 05:51 PM
worms doesnt have enough activity. Look how many games are being played in wa league, barely any...let alone a specific rope league..

my suggestion is just play tus and pick roper
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 07, 2009, 06:05 PM
I'll be releasing TUS Cups soon. You can host a big cup of roper with it.  I think that's even better.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 07, 2009, 06:06 PM
I never understood why people wanted other leagues then TUS. If TUS was the only league around, with all the people helping with it, it would make one big community.

By the way, Monkey told me that was his idea, and when more than 2000 people are registered, he wants to hack them all.

XDDD
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 07, 2009, 06:14 PM
I hack websites? Hello? Have you just met me? xD
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 07, 2009, 06:25 PM
Go ahead and smite me! :D
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 07, 2009, 07:45 PM
yeah if the league was more active it would be a good idea, but i dont think it would be active enough for decent playoffs, if anything id suggest rotated league(like i did when tus first started)
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 07, 2009, 08:18 PM
Well...Any new idea seems to die here on tus.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: chakkman on October 07, 2009, 08:32 PM
Thats nothing against you or against new ideas in general... just no point in creating 10 new leagues when the general league is hardly played at all. Thats just being realistic i guess.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 07, 2009, 08:35 PM
Browse the forum a little Devilage... And then look around in version history.

Plus the people were telling their opinions about what you said, bringing on points of arguments. I don't want to liken TUS forum unto other, already dead forums, but as far as I remember there were no other forums where you could post your idea without getting senseless posts or spams as a reply OR any site where the owner actually did what the community asked for.
Although, this does not mean that every single idea will be created for a sharp deadline on TUS site.

And well, you can still bring on your points of arguments, put on a poll, ask people around to come and vote with yes for the idea so we see that it is popular amongst other people! :)

PS: this is not against you again.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: pr on October 07, 2009, 09:41 PM
Quote from: devilage on October 07, 2009, 08:18 PM
Well...Any new idea seems to die here on tus.

don't think so.

If you find people who will play this league i think MI can create this one.

Anyway as MI said cups are on the way.
Roper cup would be nice and you can even be MOD there :)
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 07, 2009, 11:59 PM
where are the ropers to make an opinion? well u guys are right ... this is inactive.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: beer on October 08, 2009, 01:16 AM
ask veg to make that. he is back! :D
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: THeDoGG on October 08, 2009, 07:14 AM
The drama.


Well maybe you could replace something like the free league by a roper league ?
And also maybe you could include in this league roper, RR and wxw ?
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 09, 2009, 10:15 PM
just roper but i guess it doesn't work.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: pr on October 09, 2009, 11:16 PM
We can try to open rotated league. Main season = 2 months. So rotated league = 1 month. 2 rotated schemes will be in one season.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 10, 2009, 02:24 AM
I dont ge it :p
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: THeDoGG on October 10, 2009, 10:04 AM
He means
1 season = 2 months,

so rotated league = 1 scheme / season.


Btw i dont think rotated league is a good idea, it's a copy of CL2K / wA..
You guyz must find a better idea, more original :]
Try to think what kind of single league could make people want to play more than they used to  ;)

I say a roper league including all the rope schemes !!! For people like me who find boring all non-rope schemes.  :'( :P
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 10, 2009, 02:42 PM
i think he mean 2 schemes a season :P

@ dogg, default players could say the same thing about not liking rope games and im sure they will lol
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 11, 2009, 10:37 AM
yeah, if there was an active elite league id choice that over normal singles! But its catch 22. If you make a league to try to get people to play more, it will result in less games being taken from another league.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 11, 2009, 10:39 AM
maybe a reward for whoever gets the highest rating that season in each scheme would encourage people to play abit. You just pick ur favourite scheme and don't care as much when playing the other schemes if u could win a no1. elite trophy or no1. rr trophy at end of seaosn.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 11, 2009, 10:59 AM
See, this is actually a very good idea!
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 11, 2009, 11:26 AM
Hmm, I was gonna include this in the new version of the leagues.
Giving medals to the 1st, 2nd, 3rd in each scheme and in each season.

Back to subject, I don't know why out of a sudden you think of a new league. Why don't you try the current running league? It is the result of lotta experiences and many tests.
Other than that, I think Cups and Tournaments works best for 1-scheme contests. I'll be releasing Cups soon, I've coded it based on my experiences on the previous cups running on the community and I expect it turn out well. All being said, Still if you find people who really like to play an individual league for rope schemes, I'll code it :)

@reward thing,
Some people have started asking me again to put some prize. I was thinking of putting some money for the season #9 of classic league, But I don't know what will happen to season #10 if no prize is set for that.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Rok on October 11, 2009, 11:33 AM
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on October 11, 2009, 11:26 AM
Some people have started asking me again to put some prize. I was thinking of putting some money for the season #9 of classic league, But I don't know what will happen to season #10 if no prize is set for that.

If prize money was to get higher activity or some similar reason, then ok, it's your choice, but I wouldn't do that just because some people want to get payed for playing worms. You already invested all lot of your time (I assume) and skills into TUS.  ;)
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 11, 2009, 11:36 AM
Money prize for the current league is a very bad idea in my opinion, those who have better ranks in the leagues would never be able to win. Gonzo won 32 matches out of his 32 (...) and he is still not the first. A cup with money prize would be perfect, a luck-less scheme and BO3 or BO5 (Elite for instance).
But everyone would have to sign up with paying money, 1 EURO for example, and the winner gets all the money.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 11, 2009, 11:45 AM
Quote from: Ray on October 11, 2009, 11:36 AM
Gonzo won 32 matches out of his 32 (...) and he is still not the first.

I can't believe we are still having this lol, If ever a prize is gonna be set it is:
1. for PO winner:  So no matter what place Gonzo stands.
2. for the future seasons, not the current season.

If I ever set the prize, It will be for more activity, havign bigger community. That's all. Many damages are done to this community and it has lost many of its members, So all ideas are a way just to bring back lost member/keep the existing members more.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 11, 2009, 12:17 PM
Your first point is fair enough.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 11, 2009, 05:27 PM
how does the current hall of fame work? Do you get a medal that sticks on ur profile page? (similar to fb?) Such medals for 1st and 2nd after playoffs to stick on profiles would own cus u could click on the name on standings and see what that player has previously won.. Instead of using the view old season drop down menu..

On another note, there as still some sum stats that confused me when i view a profile and i still think it is easy to get lost when viewing the different pages on profiles and stats!


Maybe its time to remove countries in the next verison??
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 11, 2009, 05:34 PM
i think it would be cool to have it show in your profile when some1s looking at it

and maybe we could change country standings a bit, like take the games from singles and add the stats of each country

just a thought
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 11, 2009, 05:37 PM
I think maybe what is displayed in the general clan profile could be on the same page as the claan league stats!? With the medals you seen in hall of fame under the current position or whatever with the season it dates to?


I also dont understand the activity stats, How come overall ratings per scheme on that page are in the 4000 mark, when overall ratings on current league one are alot less??
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 11, 2009, 05:57 PM
the activity stats adds up all the games people played in our clan in singles too, thats probably what you missed
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: pr on October 11, 2009, 07:25 PM
Agree with wooka about countries.
Dunno about removing country games type but:
country standings should be based on singles and maybe clan league. (use activity stats here?)
each country should have captains responsible for playoff participation and other related stuff.
Captain Wooka, what do u think?
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 11, 2009, 07:42 PM
i think any form of patriotism for russians is a threat to national security!
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 11, 2009, 08:44 PM
I have to agree with these points, some simplification would still come handy for this site.
I told Monkey long ago that the Country games have no real point... The statistics based on the single games could be used to determine the Country standings for each season (activity stats...) and there could also be playoffs with the four best countries of the season, with this captain thing pr mentioned. Good idea!

And about the profiles, I was also thinking about simplifying it, but I couldn't come up with an actual idea, so I just kept quiet... x)
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 11, 2009, 09:21 PM
maybe only the countries with a captain are the only ones allowed to qualify for PO, also some people might have a problem deciding a captain... cant think of how to fix that at the moment
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 11, 2009, 09:30 PM
1. Maybe its time to get rid of country games.
2. I'll try to update league at the start of the new season, I'll add medals or so in the people's page.
3. I don't agree with country PO at all. The reason is, We have trouble getting people to play their single PO, Much harder to get them play their clanner PO. I'm sure you know what's the next line.

ps: Please suggest a good name for activity stats.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 12, 2009, 12:53 AM
yeah you have a point MI they probably wouldnt get played
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Chicken23 on October 12, 2009, 10:00 AM
indeed, more playoffs is a bad idea. Id still say scarp them to reduce the 'size' of the site!  :o

As for clan stats, its nice to see your overall rating, ur overall standings and rating per scheme, but adding the stats of single games n stuff doesnt seem worthwhile.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 12, 2009, 10:33 AM
Where in clan stats we've added the single games n stuff?
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 12, 2009, 08:53 PM
I think Chicken pointed at the activity stats.
@C23: activity stats are cool because you can get an overall view of the activity and  efficiency of different countries, which is cool I think. ;D
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 12, 2009, 09:44 PM
yeah if it was the other way it would be the same as the clanner stats overall wouldnt it?
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 12, 2009, 09:48 PM
Activity stats is the stats based on only the single league. It is very useful to see what your clan members actually pick and play.

For example:
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/groups-stats2/CKC/?s=8

Shows how CKC members did in season 8:
Most scheme CKC members played was Elite. Almost 25% of CKC  picks was Elite. Meaning in 4 schemes, CKC members picke 1 Elite. Isn't that cool? If you know what TUS is offering you, You'll love it. 
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on October 14, 2009, 12:18 PM
About the prize...Yeah i think ray said it or some1 else but u should put prize for a cup so the winner of the cup wins the money, but no @ paying 1 dollar to sign. Could be good tho...
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: WookA on October 14, 2009, 03:24 PM
i think paying 1 dollar sign up is the best way actually, i dont see a reason for monkey to spend money when he already put all of this work in
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: ZiPpO on October 20, 2009, 12:46 PM
I have a suggestion ... continue to play like this and choose tus roper and end of all the guys makes a separate playoff with better ratings of the season roper.

bad english kkkk!
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Ray on October 20, 2009, 12:52 PM
ZiPpO, it would be good, really, but see, the current playoffs are already pretty hard to be played. Although, it would be nice to have separate playoff opportunities by I say, signing up for the different schemes in your profile. Or maybe one person can participate in only one scheme playoff (naturally that would not affect the standard PO in any way).
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: ZiPpO on October 21, 2009, 06:55 AM
 Even the very being played roper think you will spend valuable time doing something separate just to be a league of roper.

In my opinion then I would leave as is.

Perhaps you could spend the time they would spend to make a separate league in doing some tournaments roper elite etc on the same ag ... make an appointment and make a plan similar to that of ftm.


yah i hate my english too ;D
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: Devilage on November 02, 2009, 05:24 PM
omg zippo now the thread has no sense.
Title: Re: Roper league.
Post by: MonkeyIsland on November 02, 2009, 05:34 PM
In 3-4 days I'll host a roper cup.

If you have time devilage you could mod it. But I don't see you much around here.