Hi,
Im not involved directly in this thing, but i post because I think it's lame to play 1023912 times same maps, as Casso posted in a game reciently.
You just will play it perfectly cause of warming 123921 times in same map, no fallings, know its hides, etc etc.
Should anybody do something?
https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-2544/?leaguePage=1
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-87163/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-86644/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-86657/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-86488/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-86107/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-87423/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-85667/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-85632/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-81558/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-80516/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-84148/ played in PO
and more
savage = crash?
pick some new maps man dont be a noob lol ;D
not like there is anything illegal in picking the same maps over and over, just something incredibly lame
That's funny, I remember Savage actually played nothing but that map in FB days too. There should definitely be a rule against more than a few uses per season, though for shopper... TUS should consider enforcing random maps since they're very easy to make from a cavern level, and much more fair.
I wrote some general rules on map abuse a while back:
-For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria, the host must use a unique (never played by himself or his clan) random map generated in the in-game editor for that specific game (so you must left click on a map template until getting a map you like). You may edit the map with the in-game editor if such editing is obvious, though the map must still be unique, and no using .PNG files. The game may be declared void or auto-loss for you if your map choice violates this rule.
-Do not frequently choose the same map to play on in any scheme. If you really overuse a map, we may give you a warning to stop, which could lead to a short ban if it is not followed.
For shopper I think it would make sense to allow all maps, but enforce random maps if either team requests them.
Good idea Mab, but you would have to eleborate on what is "frequently choose the same map" some people might play 5 a season, all on that map, lame, some might play that map 5 times in a Season, but play 20-30 different maps also, for me this is ok.
1st part I totally agree with btw xD
Perhaps a % would work? For example
You may use a map for 10% of your total played games, so if you do like 60 shoppers, you can use a map 6 times, 70, 7, etc.
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 06:37 AM
For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria
I don't agree BnG maps should be regenerated every time. I have a bunch of cool maps by Ramone, I always pick it randomly and everybody's happy :P
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 06:37 AMthe host must use a unique (never played by himself or his clan)
You can't proove it and I'll never believe people in #Ag (except some, but they are few).
So this rule has no sense to be.
Quote from: TheWalrus on October 11, 2011, 01:43 AM
not like there is anything illegal in picking the same maps over and over
Actually there is, or was, or it has been talked about... not sure now. :)
Quote from: Statik on October 11, 2011, 07:58 AM
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 06:37 AM
For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria
I don't agree BnG maps should be regenerated every time. I have a bunch of cool maps by Ramone, I always pick it randomly and everybody's happy :P
Are you sure people know it's saved? In any case, it increases everyone's skill to continually play on different maps, and there's no good reason to use repeats. Saving time shouldn't be an issue, it doesn't take much time to make a BnG map.
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 11:10 AM
Are you sure people know it's saved? In any case, it increases everyone's skill to continually play on different maps, and there's no good reason to use repeats. Saving time shouldn't be an issue, it doesn't take much time to make a BnG map.
Then delete all bng map packs from tus to don't confuse people ::)
Quote from: Statik on October 11, 2011, 11:36 AM
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 11:10 AM
Are you sure people know it's saved? In any case, it increases everyone's skill to continually play on different maps, and there's no good reason to use repeats. Saving time shouldn't be an issue, it doesn't take much time to make a BnG map.
Then delete all bng map packs from tus to don't confuse people ::)
they are there to show how easy it is to make ur own BnG maps [x
Personally, those players made me losing interest about this league.
You`re leaving us angus? :(
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 06:37 AM
I wrote some general rules on map abuse a while back:
-For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria, the host must use a unique (never played by himself or his clan) random map generated in the in-game editor for that specific game (so you must left click on a map template until getting a map you like). You may edit the map with the in-game editor if such editing is obvious, though the map must still be unique, and no using .PNG files.
If this rule exist I think that all maps of this kind of schemes must be deleted from TUS's map database.
If people like the option, you could just amend it by saying:
-For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria, if one team requests it, the host must use a unique (never played by himself or his clan) random map generated in the in-game editor for that specific game (so you must left click on a map template until getting a map you like). You may edit the map with the in-game editor if such editing is obvious, though the map must still be unique, and no using .PNG files.
And I think it would be useful to include shopper and roper. There should also probably be a rule regarding map choice if the host refuses to budge, like having a moderator host, since the hassle alone would probably force people to come to some agreement.
Quote from: Mablak on October 12, 2011, 05:25 AM
If people like the option, you could just amend it by saying:
-For the schemes Team17, BnG, Elite, and Hysteria, if one team requests it, the host must use a unique (never played by himself or his clan) random map generated in the in-game editor for that specific game (so you must left click on a map template until getting a map you like). You may edit the map with the in-game editor if such editing is obvious, though the map must still be unique, and no using .PNG files.
And I think it would be useful to include shopper and roper. There should also probably be a rule regarding map choice if the host refuses to budge, like having a moderator host, since the hassle alone would probably force people to come to some agreement.
In short, one can always ask a hoster to change a map. E.g. I don't like hard elite maps which always turn into bng. Actaully I don't play elite much, but at least random maps are easy and funny to play. I think this won't be a problem, and maybe it's already in rules, I don't know ::)
Dear people of TUS,
Listen to Mab (and franz in that Changes thread in the TUS Discussion forum) if you know what's good for you!
Yours sincerely,
KRD
Mablak, you can't left click and get BnG maps that way, you have to fill bottom and delete top, or you get short maps.
The last sentence states that editing is okay :0
Quote from: Mablak on October 12, 2011, 09:05 AM
The last sentence states that editing is okay :0
Yah but you said "if such editing is obvious" not "if such editing is necessary" ;)
Quote from: Crazy on October 11, 2011, 11:25 PM
You`re leaving us angus? :(
Nearly. This forums is becoming a drama paradise. lol
TUS is not a drama paradise if you compare these forums with the past leagues forums, it is pretty civilized and only friendly heated debates from time to time. Watch Home and Away if you want real drama :D
Only fb league wasnot a drama paradise after kiros banned everyone and only him could post xD
xDDDDDDDdddddddd saUHShauShaUShaUShaUS
Quote from: Statik on October 11, 2011, 11:36 AM
Quote from: Mablak on October 11, 2011, 11:10 AM
Are you sure people know it's saved? In any case, it increases everyone's skill to continually play on different maps, and there's no good reason to use repeats. Saving time shouldn't be an issue, it doesn't take much time to make a BnG map.
Then delete all bng map packs from tus to don't confuse people ::)
My word. And also all saved Elite Maps. Its okay for giving the community some example, but just note those maps with a big "EXAMPLE" thru the whole landscape. So this will show everyone, it isnt to play, but it should give an idea how a map could look like.
i like these rules on maps, and krd's comments. (i wish krd would be play.. its been too long)
i love the mario shopper map and will pick it, but if someones request it i'll use a different map. But then what if people just request a different map for the sake of forcing a cave shopper map? After all, it is someones pick..
ps. dogma shopper map owns :D
Quote from: darKz on October 12, 2011, 04:53 PM
Quote from: angus on October 12, 2011, 04:08 PM
Quote from: Crazy on October 11, 2011, 11:25 PM
You`re leaving us angus? :(
Nearly. This forums is becoming a drama paradise. lol
Fixed, np.
I wonder if that girl is come to oktoberfest this year, ahaehah
Well my msg is totally fixed now thx for ur support sir
Quote from: angus on October 12, 2011, 04:08 PM
Nearly. This forums is becoming a drama paradise. lol
TUS forums are actually cleaner than what it used to be angus. There are complaints thread which get hot time to time and people seem to read a lot into these topics. If you try to ignore complain threads, the rest are living their normal life.
Also "we" should notice it is not a baking or cooking recipe community to happily taste our dishes and enjoy. It's a game, there are winner and losers, there is competition and wherever you have those, you will have drama time to time.
Quote from: Chicken23 on October 12, 2011, 11:03 PM
i love the mario shopper map
it's funny you mention it, I remember we played that map pretty often and it was all from the fact kiros and his clan would abuse that map in clanners and we couldn't let that be a disadvantage.
Quote from: ropa on October 13, 2011, 10:30 AM
Quote from: Chicken23 on October 12, 2011, 11:03 PM
i love the mario shopper map
it's funny you mention it, I remember we played that map pretty often and it was all from the fact kiros and his clan would abuse that map in clanners and we couldn't let that be a disadvantage.
It's the only good thing Kiros did for me with regards to WA. Introducing me to mario shopper map!
Does him introducing you to mario shopper map make up for the fact that he hacked and killed your league, Tom? :P
Quote from: Crazy on October 13, 2011, 12:22 PM
Does him introducing you to mario shopper map make up for the fact that he hacked and killed your league, Tom? :P
we need to have that feature so we could thumbs up someone's post xDDDDDDdddddd
Quote from: Crazy on October 13, 2011, 12:22 PM
Does him introducing you to mario shopper map make up for the fact that he hacked and killed your league, Tom? :P
Nope
And don't forget it was two leagues. AL and XTC! Although he only admitted to hacking AL, XTC he apparently sent some of his buddies over to hack it.
ok guys u wont see that map ever I didnt have much shopper maps but I'll download and use those.
I like Savage
Quote from: Savage on October 14, 2011, 10:14 PM
ok guys u wont see that map ever I didnt have much shopper maps but I'll download and use those.
Seems that This worked for savage. Let's post for LL now? maybe? :D
Quote from: Gabriel on October 29, 2011, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Savage on October 14, 2011, 10:14 PM
ok guys u wont see that map ever I didnt have much shopper maps but I'll download and use those.
Seems that This worked for savage. Let's post for LL now? maybe? :D
yea 100% true xDDDD