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Title: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 09:10 PM
He can't write here so I've reported for him.

" just write there that i go banned and that's the prove i dont use macro .. and i cant use a script when i fr on space"

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 04, 2011, 09:33 PM
I don't find this warming very impressive tbh. You missed a lot of taps. I'd like to see a video of you playing TTRR. :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 04, 2011, 09:35 PM
rofl this proofs nothing. its dämn obvious that he has used some scripts for most of his games. some polish ppl can post more information about the script i guess.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 09:42 PM
ahhaha, spy man, i've never tought yu cammelo was an asshole like that.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 09:47 PM
btw i really don't care about cheating, if someone is good is good. Even if he taps with his cock, I want to beat him, there aremany ways to tap and play. I do fr, yu probably 1 fr, someone script, someone mod  the kb like an UFO to tap better ahhah but what is the point? tap is not all, and it's ridiculous seeing 200 pages about that and also other 200 pages where people talk about the pwn and the importance of timing and flow. they are in contradiction. Let's play and don't care.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 04, 2011, 09:50 PM
Ty. Its dämn ridiculous to see u protecting cheating just cus he is in the same clan with u lmfao!
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 04, 2011, 09:51 PM
yeah ANO, lol
this script allow you to not care about timing, so it gives you not only tap
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 09:59 PM
thx for smite me, that is just pathetic ahahuahuahuh yu need to see some female part, and maybe yu didn't care about a tap.

Second, I don't talk about smoke because is in the same clan, we are in the same clan since 3 weeks, I am not a child as yui can see in my picture, I am 28 Cammello, cazzo! I know him for a long time, thus this is not the reason. But it's very annoying seeing people talk about fr, cheat, script every time. Most of yu probably have never tried this shit, and also most of yu can't do fr, but what yu know to do is talking.

Even if he cheated? boh, it's weird talk with persons that smite yu in this way ahahha this figures out why yu care about the cheating.

see yu tomorrow,
gn8
(http://www.uglyfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/sweet_pussy.jpg)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 10:06 PM
awch ye, yu really need the triangle xD
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Alien on August 04, 2011, 10:07 PM
btw i really don't care about cheating, if someone is good is good. Even if he taps with his cock, I want to beat him, there aremany ways to tap and play. I do fr, yu probably 1 fr, someone script, someone mod  the kb like an UFO to tap better ahhah but what is the point? tap is not all, and it's ridiculous seeing 200 pages about that and also other 200 pages where people talk about the pwn and the importance of timing and flow. they are in contradiction. Let's play and don't care.


yes yes yes me me meh huahuahau
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 04, 2011, 10:10 PM
I never smited u and i do fr always. I never said that i care about taps but i care about cheats ofc. I ve tried script and it made my roping faster and much safer rofl, it should tell enough. u must ve been drunk at posting this shit here man
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 04, 2011, 10:22 PM
thx for smite me, that is just pathetic ahahuahuahuh yu need to see some female part, and maybe yu didn't care about a tap.

i think u are more pathetic than the ppl who is smiting u , because u care about karma lol

stop defending him , maybe before write such long posts u should get more information , as u read in MI's post , they have his methods to catch ppl who use scripts or whatever ...  maybe that roping is fake (on video, cos seriously i didnt see anything on that video) or maybe not... who knows .. but personally i dont care xD
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Devilage on August 04, 2011, 10:40 PM
this's not how smok ropes lol, atleast not how we used to warm... taps were faster and roping dif. i agree with darkz @rrtt replay.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NAiL on August 04, 2011, 10:40 PM
wht bans?

I dont know whether he cheats or not (I dont care either tbh, how many other "cheaters" can rope like smok oO).

If he did use scripts in league games I cant defend that, but a ban seems too harsh for anyone, warning would be better.

smok is a nice guy, hes ok.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 04, 2011, 10:56 PM
but Nail, we are talking about league games

and I agree with NC ofc, we use fr and we tried this script, instead on faster tap you get better controlled scroll, or how many times we missed shadow?

cheats are cheats, ppl use them to be better

and I really hoped smok would be fair... but near cheating, he used to lie too :)

anyway, MI said they found way to catch cheaters, he really rarely ban ppl and is f@#!ing objective. You really don't believe him?
Even after we found Sniper cheats he didn't ban him, he just let him time to stop cheating. MI banned him because Sniper still used this shit.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 04, 2011, 11:06 PM
I never smited u and i do fr always. I never said that i care about taps but i care about cheats ofc. I ve tried script and it made my roping faster and much safer rofl, it should tell enough. u must ve been drunk at posting this shit here man

I ve not talked only about yu.
Simply I don't care about a cheat, because I think that without yu can be better. Maybe for me it's hard to valuate because I normally do fr and for me it's natural, with 1 fr I suck... I gonna try again the script. Btw it's not the santo gral guys, or the kung fu panda paper xD For me yu could also tap with a slave on the space.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 04, 2011, 11:10 PM
I never smited u and i do fr always. I never said that i care about taps but i care about cheats ofc. I ve tried script and it made my roping faster and much safer rofl, it should tell enough. u must ve been drunk at posting this shit here man

I ve not talked only about yu.
Simply I don't care about a cheat, because I think that without yu can be better. Maybe for me it's hard to valuate because I normally do fr and for me it's natural, with 1 fr I suck... I gonna try again the script. Btw it's not the santo gral guys, or the kung fu panda paper xD For me yu could also tap with a slave on the space.

You can't ANO, this script ONLY help you, you can be good without, but with this you can be ONLY better.

anyway, cheats are cheats, they are mostly unhuman, if cheats would be allowed, I bet we got replays similar to Deadcode only in rr challanges...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: nino on August 05, 2011, 12:36 AM
it is easy to find a cheat btw, look at mablaks taps, and even anubis`s when not cheating lol, they rope fast and stuff, they dont miss time at rr where someone who uses script would still lose, but the roper tap, isnot that fast and crazy than using script, thats why they win even on peoples using script, cos skill, but it is easy to find out someone using script.

dude i usually f@#! 1,2 times max 3 with my gf when she comes to sleep at my apart, days ago i got a viagra with a friend, dude... i passed almost whole night with dick hard, she just told me, "u took something lol, my pussy hurts and u still hard" lmfao.

easy to find out xDDDD
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 05, 2011, 12:52 AM
You can't ANO, this script ONLY help you, you can be good without, but with this you can be ONLY better.

anyway, cheats are cheats, they are mostly unhuman, if cheats would be allowed, I bet we got replays similar to Deadcode only in rr challanges...

Seriously Maciej, can you please stop preaching such bullshit? Using this shitty script does NOT make anyone better just because they use this stupid script, wake up man lol...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 05, 2011, 12:59 AM
You can't ANO, this script ONLY help you, you can be good without, but with this you can be ONLY better.

anyway, cheats are cheats, they are mostly unhuman, if cheats would be allowed, I bet we got replays similar to Deadcode only in rr challanges...

Seriously Maciej, can you please stop preaching such bullshit? Using this shitty script does NOT make anyone better just because they use this stupid script, wake up man lol...

the script that sniper and zippo uses actually makes u better
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 05, 2011, 01:05 AM
You can't ANO, this script ONLY help you, you can be good without, but with this you can be ONLY better.

anyway, cheats are cheats, they are mostly unhuman, if cheats would be allowed, I bet we got replays similar to Deadcode only in rr challanges...

Seriously Maciej, can you please stop preaching such bullshit? Using this shitty script does NOT make anyone better just because they use this stupid script, wake up man lol...

the script that sniper and zippo uses actually makes u better

No, it doesn't, knowing how rope works, when and where to connect/disconnect it to the land makes you better, unreliable taps do not make you better, if it shoots when it's not supposed to, how can you control this 100%?

Sniper and Zippo both suck and fall too much, end of story.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 05, 2011, 01:09 AM
Lol again. If u ever tried that script u would know that u r talking bull shitxD
With this script u wont miss any taps so u will have just perfect shadows etc. Scrolling is much easier and safer cus ur taps will be the same. If u tap like crazy, then it wont be an advantage.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: angus on August 05, 2011, 02:55 AM
Lol again. If u ever tried that script u would know that u r talking bull shitxD
With this script u wont miss any taps so u will have just perfect shadows etc. Scrolling is much easier and safer cus ur taps will be the same. If u tap like crazy, then it wont be an advantage.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 05, 2011, 03:13 AM
Lol again. If u ever tried that script u would know that u r talking bull shitxD
With this script u wont miss any taps so u will have just perfect shadows etc. Scrolling is much easier and safer cus ur taps will be the same. If u tap like crazy, then it wont be an advantage.

If you don't know how to rope you can't scroll, you can't do the right move at the right time, I rest my case.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 05, 2011, 04:14 AM
Lol again. If u ever tried that script u would know that u r talking bull shitxD
With this script u wont miss any taps so u will have just perfect shadows etc. Scrolling is much easier and safer cus ur taps will be the same. If u tap like crazy, then it wont be an advantage.

If you don't know how to rope you can't scroll, you can't do the right move at the right time, I rest my case.

dude its obvious that if u dont know how to rope u are gonna do nothing with or without an AHK, but the thing is that the ppl with low skill of roping use this programs to improve his roping without any efort on it , just think about it , i have to wait for the space bar to come up again to do a second shot on the rope, and the keylock stuff , i had to get used to my keyboard/s to f@#!ing rope a little good , but now i find out that there is program that make u avoid the keylock or the "spacebar up" stuff ... how do u think i feel when i see ppl like sniper roping same or even better than me with no more than 1 year and a half or 2 of playing cos of a program that make ur roping waaaay easy? i think " wow, and i have been playing for 5 years to learn how to f@#!ing rope, what a waste ..."

i would like to see sm0k (if he use it) ttrring without that program , or even sniper roping that good with his space bar or even keychanger , cos i bet one of my eggs they gonna suck as hell in every rope scheme except shopper
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 05, 2011, 04:27 AM
Just to make things clear on this case,
We didn't say sm0k was using the same AHK script. Second, sm0k knows how to rope "normally" very well. He actually can play TTRR normally really well. It just seems he knows an extra way of roping using some tool. He probably learned this way long time ago, but he hasn't let it go completely. It is like an on/off switch.

As for the video: (since you are making one)
1. We're not seeing yours fingers and video both at the same time in the entire video.
2. You are known for some crazy style of TTRR. Show that fast style on a TTRR map with actual progress on the map.

@others,
The AHK script doesn't do much with roping. It changes things only for FR. Stop giving it so much credit.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Ryan on August 05, 2011, 07:12 AM
Lol again. If u ever tried that script u would know that u r talking bull shitxD
With this script u wont miss any taps so u will have just perfect shadows etc. Scrolling is much easier and safer cus ur taps will be the same. If u tap like crazy, then it wont be an advantage.

If you don't know how to rope you can't scroll, you can't do the right move at the right time, I rest my case.

Sadly Komo, it seems apparent that the script does the moves for you.
Having your taps timed will product reliable rope shots, all you need to do is time the swing.

'Arf 'a job done  :o
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NAiL on August 05, 2011, 01:17 PM
I still think a final warning would be better, these 2 guys havent harmed anyone even if they used a script however many times...

There are players on this league who have terrible attitudes, noob bashers, avoiders, fake droppers... these people deserve to be banned more than a couple of guys who used a script to virtually no advantage...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 05, 2011, 01:25 PM
lol nail, sniper got caught cheating and then he got caught cheating again, why he should be only warned?
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 05, 2011, 01:27 PM
I still think a final warning would be better, these 2 guys havent harmed anyone even if they used a script however many times...

There are players on this league who have terrible attitudes, noob bashers, avoiders, fake droppers... these people deserve to be banned more than a couple of guys who used a script to virtually no advantage...

@1: they won points which they shouldn't, stealing the points from the others

@2: it was said so many times how the script works and what advantage it gives...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NAiL on August 05, 2011, 01:36 PM
I already said I cant defend someone using scripts in a league game (read pls), my point was there are MANY people who do things more deserving of a ban in my eyes.

I agree with a ban, but only til the end of the season.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: DarkOne on August 05, 2011, 01:47 PM
We acted in accordance to this announcement: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/using-autohotkey-is-considered-as-a-cheat/
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 05, 2011, 02:08 PM
I still think a final warning would be better, these 2 guys havent harmed anyone even if they used a script however many times...

There are players on this league who have terrible attitudes, noob bashers, avoiders, fake droppers... these people deserve to be banned more than a couple of guys who used a script to virtually no advantage...

Lol mate, I hardly think being immature, playing weaker players, or avoiding is an offense worth banning for, i'm with you on fake droppers though, but the rest of the things you mentioned, it's just really really really lame and we should all just humiliate those people on a day to day basis.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 07, 2011, 08:38 PM
Hey-hey. sm0k asked me to make a post about him! Here it is :

sm0k:
elo,
i made a 2nd movie with 4 ttrrs and one warmer. darkz and some others wanted to see me in rr. as you can see on this movie i recordet taskmanager (shows wich programms i had on) the quality isnt the best but if u try hard then u can read that. if need i will check another camera and make a 3rd one witht that taskmanager. and i also give you a link to dwnl the replays that u see on that movie.
i got a wrong ban and i want to prove you that. 1st thing: the mods gave 2 replays as reasson for my ban.. the tapz and speed there is like on my whole ttrr tus games. i also checked that 2 replays to 100% and match them with that replays from my video.. you see the tapz and moves are the same. and on task manager you saw i didnt had any autohotkey or another script programs. i just had keychange on. and on that keychamnge i changed alt + ctrl to 2 spaces, f8 and enter. well i lie when i said i fr on one space.. i just wanted be something different then others.. but at least i have to say that .. i use 2 spaces. in 1st movie i fr'ed on space while the camera where showing my keyboard. when camera moved i changed to my 2 spaces. you can think what you want about that. the whole thing is if you check the replays from my movie and my tus rr replays .. no matter wich ones. you see same speed of tapz..
i were sometime ago in sW clan .. and ye in this time i used that sw script for a while .. but never used it on tus games.. there were a time where i just played for fun .. afteri left sw i made a breake .. and after this breake i didnt used any scripts anymore. and i think: ppl that used that sw script knows it dont rly help much , at least it dont make works ur spaces better .. just a bit better control.

youtube : 2nd movie


wa replays to the movie:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JA3AT6DW

if it gonna be rly needed so i will need some days to get better camera for that taskmanager..
and guys .. dont listen just what mods says.. prove it byurself and match the replays with tus replays..
right now i dont know what mods think about this.. always when i pm them .. they never answer. just mi make sometimes answers
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 07, 2011, 08:52 PM
EDIT: Someone, who I like, didn't want to show it out...

but smok lies. And MI knows about it already, that's enough.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 07, 2011, 10:21 PM
hehe this replay was clear yea and its not so hard to see the difference between this and script replays
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 01:23 AM
And as far as I know, sm0k has never cheated!
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 08, 2011, 06:38 AM
Why even bother making a video if you know you don't cheat? You can't get banned via assumptions and jealousy, and people think you cheat is normally a compliment if you aren't lol.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 08, 2011, 01:17 PM
Why even bother making a video if you know you don't cheat? You can't get banned via assumptions and jealousy, and people think you cheat is normally a compliment if you aren't lol.
Do you think MI banned him for no reason? Of course he has to prove something here. ;)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Crazy on August 08, 2011, 04:23 PM
This has gone out of proportion
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 08, 2011, 04:48 PM
way to randomly tap out of context to achieve ugly roping.

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: chakkman on August 08, 2011, 05:14 PM
Do you think MI banned him for no reason? Of course he has to prove something here. ;)

I have yet to see the proof on which this ban is based on... without that there's much room for discussion whether the ban was righteous or not. And in the past there was so much talk about whether it is possible or not to detect cheating that i have my doubts that there is any proof at all...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 06:18 PM
There isn't, at least not with an anti cheat tool or something like that, all assumptions are based on subjective view and experience. I am glad I am not the one making these decisions whether someone cheats or not because you can't justify them.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 08, 2011, 06:30 PM
There isn't, at least not with an anti cheat tool or something like that, all assumptions are based on subjective view and experience. I am glad I am not the one making these decisions whether someone cheats or not because you can't justify them.

says the cheet
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 06:46 PM
imo MI doesn't ban without surely proofs.

and what about smok, it's true he cheats, what about Sniper, everybody knows too.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 07:02 PM
What's wrong, McFly? Chicken?
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Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Nivman on August 08, 2011, 07:05 PM
guys wtf are u talking about accusing some one for cheating because he got fast tap with a style and own you in tus so you get jealouse? and not talking about that u got no proof for any of the things you are saying.
now after i said that let me say my words:
first of all:iam using 2 spaces too same as smok did..you all know my taps they are even faster than smok so why no body calling me a cheater?
-now for all the guys who cant fr and dont know how the glitch working...if u ever looked at fr it has diffrent glitch than twitch ropes shots diffrent..now if u looked at cheat taps using by scripts or macros u see the rope shots from no where and even the sound is diffrent..
so here is my advice: all the people who think smok cheat for some reason try taping with 2 spaces even for a month its much easier to learn timing and get taps its easier than anyother tap method in wa i know it because iam doing it my self +cross handed.
AND THE BIGGEST ADVICE: dont base on things what people saying get your own proof befor getting stupid decission ban some one for nothing.

IF YOU REALY WANT I MAKE A VIDEO TOO SHOWING HOW TO TAP WIT H2 SPACES AND MAKE GOOD TIME  IN RR WARM OR W/E UWANT
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 08, 2011, 07:21 PM
In what dimension are your taps faster than sm0ks? No offence.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: chakkman on August 08, 2011, 07:31 PM
imo MI doesn't ban without surely proofs.

Surely not, but posting how it is possible to detect cheating would surely clear up things for those involved. I would also be quite pissed off if i got accused of cheating without  knowing how it would be possible to detect cheating.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: lacoste on August 08, 2011, 07:50 PM
Surely not, but posting how it is possible to detect cheating would surely clear up things for those involved. I would also be quite pissed off if i got accused of cheating without  knowing how it would be possible to detect cheating.

Theres also second side of the stick - with given information into public on how to detect cheating, it will be much easier for potential cheaters to elude those tricks.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: chakkman on August 08, 2011, 08:08 PM
True, but if you get banned then at least you personally deserve a good explanation. :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 08, 2011, 08:17 PM
imo MI doesn't ban without surely proofs.

Surely not, but posting how it is possible to detect cheating would surely clear up things for those involved. I would also be quite pissed off if i got accused of cheating without  knowing how it would be possible to detect cheating.

i guess if u got banned cos of cheating by MI , he would tell U and only U about how did he catch u

im just guessing

In what dimension are your taps faster than sm0ks? No offence.

+1


guys wtf are u talking about accusing some one for cheating because he got fast tap with a style and own you in tus so you get jealouse? and not talking about that u got no proof for any of the things you are saying.
now after i said that let me say my words:
first of all:iam using 2 spaces too same as smok did..you all know my taps they are even faster than smok so why no body calling me a cheater?
-now for all the guys who cant fr and dont know how the glitch working...if u ever looked at fr it has diffrent glitch than twitch ropes shots diffrent..now if u looked at cheat taps using by scripts or macros u see the rope shots from no where and even the sound is diffrent..
so here is my advice: all the people who think smok cheat for some reason try taping with 2 spaces even for a month its much easier to learn timing and get taps its easier than anyother tap method in wa i know it because iam doing it my self +cross handed.
AND THE BIGGEST ADVICE: dont base on things what people saying get your own proof befor getting stupid decission ban some one for nothing.

IF YOU REALY WANT I MAKE A VIDEO TOO SHOWING HOW TO TAP WIT H2 SPACES AND MAKE GOOD TIME  IN RR WARM OR W/E UWANT


and my ultrabig advice to u mr angry ,  before posting such post , u should know how this autohotkey works ( ye... u have to read from the beginning , starting by sniper did beat random00 at ttrr) cos if u dont have any clue about it ,  dont post

no1 said that fast taps betray some1 as a cheater, right?  atleast sniper and sm0k werent banned cos of his fast taps, as far as i know ...

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 08:24 PM
SMOKE says:

"smok wnated to post it here

sm0k:
hey guys.
lacoste..  u re right on this point. but if mods dont show up the reassons .. so they can ban evry1 who they want. and here are ppl that dont belive that i cheat.. so they wanna know the truth .. wich reasson mods had to ban me ..
at least i guess i know wich 2way they use.. i think they check eplays for unreguell tapz .. but the most ppl just dont know that u can get unregual tapz with fast fr like me, angus or nivman and some more ppl ..  and even with that fast fr  it dont looks like script or something else.. 

i'm wondering about that mi or d1 didnt even made a clearly post here .. even just an answer of that whole thing.  they just guess i use a script and ban me for that reasson .. and the funny thing is . i got a ban after i played tus games against MI. and then the 2 replays were 2 rr's against mi .. and i didnt even roped fast on them .. i can rope much faster .. lol ..  u can check that replays..  fluffy 119 with 55 time .. ppl that know me , knows i can do easely 50 there..

yesterday i talked with maciej .. he were insulting me ..  and told me one importand thing .. maciej: "be a man and stand for ur cheats" .. well if i rly would cheat.. i would say that.. but i dont use anything..
he also told me too..  he heard of someone i use script and he belive him..
cmon guys .. right now ppl are talkiong many bad things about me .. the ppl that dislike me .. talking much shit about me right now .. they got their chances to keep my ban going on..  coz they lost some agmes against me .. and their are pissed off..

komo .. at least u re right .. thats is a compliment for me that my fr got that fast , that ppl thinks its a script. but i cant stand it .. 
and my whole reputation on worms sux right now .. and thats the foult of that guy who bans me ..  and not even told me a reasson for it ..  just 2 replays .. without any word about it ..

camello still thinks i cheat .. i guess he dont even matched my replays.. he dislike me hard after i left tdc.. thats all ..

and whats about mablak .. (i dont think he cheats) but .. hes rope is much faster than mine.. his tapz are that fast that u dont even see that rope showed up .. and no one cares about it. he told me once he is roping with one finger..     i also use 2fingers for spaces .. and now im a cheater..  is that corect? be serious.."
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 08:51 PM
I stay by sm0k's side. Banning him without telling any reason or showing at least one proof is unbelievable. In this way he is right that Mods can ban anyone whoever they want. And that's also true that Mablak has faster taps but noone care about him. And the solution is not that ban Mablak. Mod(s) banned sm0k without proofs / reasons. But sm0k made a proof that he is not cheating. At least I think it was a proof (for me at least).

EDIT : I want to ask the mods in a very nice way to show some proofs or to say some reasons. Also who believe that sm0k did not cheat want reasons / proofs too. And least but not last, sm0k wants reasons / proofs.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 08:55 PM
first of all I didn't insult smok, I don't know who you quoted here but I have never said that (I don't even know what you meant there), I said that you could have a honour at least, and fess up, because I know you cheat. I even shown my proof here, but I deleted it after, because of one person who didn't want to show it out (but MI knows about this proof).

We don't claim that you can't play good without cheats, but you have been caught on cheating in league games, and that's the point why you are banned I guess.
(It's like a man who would like to proof he didn't pee the floor near the toilet, and show everyone that he is able to pee sitting on the toilet - for Godito, lol)
In last season MI and me played over 10 ttrr games, strange he didn't ban me, isn't it? I got even more haters than you, but I simply don't cheat.

from the other way, you had something to hide, because you lied you use 1 spacebar, now you say that you used to use simply changer to get 2 spaces, and what's the truth? And I don't know if you used sript or something similar to uwt, it's not my business.

In the games against MI it doesn't matter if you did good or bad times, the point is you cheated (maybe only in one of them, which MI decided to shown us as an example).

And Nivman, I don't really know what you are talking about mate, if you are completly not in the topic, you don't know Sniper case and how everything started. But I will let you Sniper as example, why should he be able to not care about timing and getting unfair advantage over the other FR players? Don't you know? Because you don't even know how the script works, so just leave this topic away or only read it, if you don't know what's going on. Or simply ask, instead of attack.

to be honest I don't know too why mods don't want to show the proofs, but they must have their reasons (good thinking lacoste), anyway I believe them (for more when I take a look for their objective job so far). And the best proof for smok, is himself.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:00 PM

It's like a man who would like to proof he didn't pee the floor near the toilet, and show everyone that he is able to pee sitting on the toilet - for Godito, lol


Lol. Nice example. Not at all in my mind but you have some points in that. But the police is coming out and put you in jail without reasons / proofs. The guy don't even know why is he in jail since he did not peed on the floor.

Anyway, if someone knows sm0k very well, then that is me (lol, I don't say I know him the best..). But I really believe that he did not cheat, and it's not about the ban! It is about ban WITHOUT reasons / proofs.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 09:11 PM
SMOKE:

"sm0k:

maciej u know what i ment..
dude if u have a prove so send me it on pm.. mods cant just ban without saing a word about it ..
i'm rly interested on that .. coz i dont cheat .. so wanna see that.
to say: i have a prove could be a lie ..  and that u posted and u had to delte this .. can be a lie too as well .. i wanna see that ..

i didnt get any msg from any mod about my ban! not even from mi!

for me it looks this way : mods/maciej and some others just dislike me .. and after ppl are started to ask for the reassons.. mods dont know what they have to say now. thats why they dont make any answers .. they are just guessing i use something .. but its not true. thats why maciej or the mods dont show any proves ..
i dont think im the only one who thinks this way..

for me its a prove too .. mods dont answer = they cant prove it
or they just need time to think about what they should say now ..
maybe they thinks "I'm Mod - i dont do mistakes"  i hope i dont have to belive that this weay.. coz evry1 makes mistakes..

and maciej .. i wanted to be someone special that "fr on space"  i tlaked it about a year to evry1  .. that i fr on space.. but in reality i fred on 2 spaces ..  and some ppl can prove that i talked that ..
and if u rly would have a prove then u woundnt say that about that "i lied coz of 2 spaces"  "


Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 09:11 PM
I stay by sm0k's side. Banning him without telling any reason or showing at least one proof is unbelievable. In this way he is right that Mods can ban anyone whoever they want. And that's also true that Mablak has faster taps but noone care about him. And the solution is not that ban Mablak. Mod(s) banned sm0k without proofs / reasons. But sm0k made a proof that he is not cheating. At least I think it was a proof (for me at least).

EDIT : I want to ask the mods in a very nice way to show some proofs or to say some reasons. Also who believe that sm0k did not cheat want reasons / proofs too. And least but not last, sm0k wants reasons / proofs.

I agree that the one banned should be PM'd about the evidence in his case. MI simply saying you cheated and I have my ways doesn't really justify anything imo. I am not implying that MI is lying or anything but it's really unfair for sm0k. It's like getting into jail and that's it, no process, no way of defending yourself or anything.

Maybe MI should contatc sm0k and calmly explain him how he cheated and maybe sm0k can actually defend himself without the help of people posting for him, that's pretty inhuman behavior in a small community when you simply exclude someone.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 08, 2011, 09:11 PM
. I even shown my proof here, but I deleted it after, because of one person who didn't want to show it out (but MI knows about this proof).


 And I don't know if you used sript or something similar to uwt, it's not my business.

In the games against MI it doesn't matter if you did good or bad times, the point is you cheated (maybe only in one of them, which MI decided to shown us as an example).


ahm what? u got a proof but you still dont know how he cheats?
or is your proof just someone who said: "sm0k told me that he cheats"
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: zippeurfou on August 08, 2011, 09:15 PM
I stay by sm0k's side. Banning him without telling any reason or showing at least one proof is unbelievable. In this way he is right that Mods can ban anyone whoever they want. And that's also true that Mablak has faster taps but noone care about him. And the solution is not that ban Mablak. Mod(s) banned sm0k without proofs / reasons. But sm0k made a proof that he is not cheating. At least I think it was a proof (for me at least).

EDIT : I want to ask the mods in a very nice way to show some proofs or to say some reasons. Also who believe that sm0k did not cheat want reasons / proofs too. And least but not last, sm0k wants reasons / proofs.

I agree that the one banned should be PM'd about the evidence in his case. MI simply saying you cheated and I have my ways doesn't really justify anything imo. I am not implying that MI is lying or anything but it's really unfair for sm0k. It's like getting into jail and that's it, no process, no way of defending yourself or anything.

Maybe MI should contatc sm0k and calmly explain him how he cheated and maybe sm0k can actually defend himself without the help of people posting for him, that's pretty inhuman behavior in a small community when you simply exclude someone.
I totally agree. If this continu the league will fall appart as did fb.
Edit: At the begining I liked how thing were handled but now you got big warning so everyone can see you acted wrongly... Is this a smart way to handle thing ? Now, someone is banned and the community is backing him up. Are you sure this is how thing should be handled ? I'm not saying he's  not cheating. But as people mentioned the speed he has in his tap is possible (and yes nivman can tap as fast). I remember (myself included) to ask for proof that you can detect if someone cheat. There weren't any answer. Why should I trust MI more than someone who has played for much longer like niv ? Once again, I'm not saying smok did not cheat but I'm sure there's a better way to handle it. :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:17 PM
I agree that the one banned should be PM'd about the evidence in his case. MI simply saying you cheated and I have my ways doesn't really justify anything imo. I am not implying that MI is lying or anything but it's really unfair for sm0k. It's like getting into jail and that's it, no process, no way of defending yourself or anything.

Maybe MI should contatc sm0k and calmly explain him how he cheated and maybe sm0k can actually defend himself without the help of people posting for him, that's pretty inhuman behavior in a small community when you simply exclude someone.

Noone should get me wrong. I just say what you have said, that it is really unfair for sm0k. And I don't try to help sm0k because he is my good friend, but because it is unfair. I'm also not against Mods, not against sm0k, not against everyone. I just want to see with my eyes too some reasons.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 08, 2011, 09:19 PM

well i saw the video and he rope with alt and ctrl ,  arent that the buttons that AHK have as spaces?isnt that the reason of the ban (as sniper)? 

We acted in accordance to this announcement: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/using-autohotkey-is-considered-as-a-cheat/
...


ur video means nothing then sm0k , sorry , at least for me xD  u should try to record a video with a better quality xD

but anyway , gl with this thing
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 08, 2011, 09:21 PM

well i saw the video and he rope with alt and ctrl ,  arent that the buttons that AHK have as spaces?isnt that the reason of the ban (as sniper)? 

ahk uses 4 or 5 space all next to space
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 09:21 PM

well i saw the video and he rope with alt and ctrl ,  arent that the buttons that AHK have as spaces?isnt that the reason of the ban (as sniper)?  

We acted in accordance to this announcement: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/using-autohotkey-is-considered-as-a-cheat/
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ur video means nothing then sm0k , sorry , at least for me xD  u should try to record a video with a better quality xD

but anyway , gl with this thing

Well if THAT is the proof when you rope with ALT and CTRL you can just ban about everyone that doesn't use space bar because you can remap the keys to whatever you want in AHK. Also, AHK is just a program, not a cheat you can do a lot of things in it. It's a developing tool after all for people that want to get into programming.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 09:22 PM
ye, that's ridicolus... Monkey lost vs smoke and after he banned, without explain. It seems also somthing of personal.

Yu should explain, make some screenshot about yr argumentation, etc. Here we have 5 pages of discussion, mods can't ignore that, it's ridicolus, without explain...
if yu are sure that he cheated, send yr analyzis and everuboyd ll shut up, if not leave the ban, that's ridicolus.

This is a words war, that's weird.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:24 PM

Well if THAT is the proof when you rope with ALT and CTRL you can just ban about everyone that doesn't use space bar because you can remap the keys to whatever you want in AHK. Also, AHK is just a program, not a cheat you can do a lot of things in it. It's a developing tool after all for people that want to get into programming.

Totally agree, +1
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: chakkman on August 08, 2011, 09:24 PM
ye, that's ridicolus... Monkey lost vs smoke and after he banned, without explain. It seems also somthing of personal.

Now that's pretty ridiculous. :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:25 PM
By the way, @Guaton :
Maybe sm0k did not remapped his keys with AHK but with other program...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 09:25 PM
@Godito
you couldn't know smok because you have never seen him, lol. We are different via internet than in real life. Anyway there were a lot 'peaceful' murderers.
and simple example, I'm almost sure that if Mablak behaves like MrE, much more ppl would suspect him about cheating, it's like a politicy, f@#!ing appearances game.

and sorry Godito, but imo you are the greatest ***-****** of TUS, and I take every of your post like meaninglessness, to get some applaud, and I'm sure many ppl would agree with me... I take every of your post like spam of a guy who cares only about karma. Even when I read your posts I have a feeling, that you haven't written what you had felt.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 09:27 PM
SMOK:

"guaton u re right.. as i told in my post .. the quali is bad .. but iof need i will make a better one after i get a better camera..
the point is .. i dont even have ahk .. i got intes keychange..  and on that vid i show witch keys i changed..  but if mods wanna that prove . i will do ofc a movie with better quali ..
i won't stop fighting till my ban goes away , coz i dont use any scripts.
thats why im interesting witch prove they got."
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:30 PM
Sure, via Internet everyone are different as in real life, I can agree on that. But what you said, that's not right. And also you don't know me too...IF you REALLY would know about me, then you did not post such things. I'm not an ass-licker (as you posted in this way : ***-******) but I like justice.

BTW, nothing personal, but you were like me while you wanted to join dP or whatever...You follow other people's opinion who  says I'm an ass-licker. But let's just skip this topic for now, or let's PM.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 09:32 PM
@Godito
you couldn't know smok because you have never seen him, lol. We are different via internet than in real life. Anyway there were a lot 'peaceful' murderers.
and simple example, I'm almost sure that if Mablak behaves like MrE, much more ppl would suspect him about cheating, it's like a politicy, f@#!ing appearances game.


Well it's just like real life, if someone in the government is always acting good and nice nobody will ever suspect him about anything bad, that's just how the world goes, reputation means more than real evidence.

Example: If X always speaks bad about other people in a high position, and one day someone comes along and says Person X raped Person Y people can imagine him doing it, thus labeling him, even if there's no real evidence that he did anything. If Person X is always nice to everyone and one day someone claims he raped Person Y people will not believe it, they can't imagine him doing it because he is always so nice.

Edit: Made the example more clear.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 08, 2011, 09:33 PM

well i saw the video and he rope with alt and ctrl ,  arent that the buttons that AHK have as spaces?isnt that the reason of the ban (as sniper)?  

We acted in accordance to this announcement: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/using-autohotkey-is-considered-as-a-cheat/
...


ur video means nothing then sm0k , sorry , at least for me xD  u should try to record a video with a better quality xD

but anyway , gl with this thing

Well if THAT is the proof when you rope with ALT and CTRL you can just ban about everyone that doesn't use space bar because you can remap the keys to whatever you want in AHK. Also, AHK is just a program, not a cheat you can do a lot of things in it. It's a developing tool after all for people that want to get into programming.


wtf ?  do u actually clicked at least the link from darkone? AHK is considered CHEAT ,  and thats why HIS video means NOTHING , cos theres nothing clear if he is using the AHK or simply remaped his keyboard

i guess u didnt even knew that ahk was cheat lol ... i think u should have a look to that link

ye, that's ridicolus... Monkey lost vs smoke and after he banned, without explain. It seems also somthing of personal.

Yu should explain, make some screenshot about yr argumentation, etc. Here we have 5 pages of discussion, mods can't ignore that, it's ridicolus, without explain...
if yu are sure that he cheated, send yr analyzis and everuboyd ll shut up, if not leave the ban, that's ridicolus.

This is a words war, that's weird.

sorry man but u are ridiculous here , just look at what u posted lol , how should be something like that took as a personal thing? seriously?
and i see u are rly waiting that MI explain u how did he catch sm0k cheating , well man i must tell u that u prolly are gonna be waiting forever , cos the reasons of the ban are nothing of ur business , if some1 must know , its sm0k

By the way, @Guaton :
Maybe sm0k did not remapped his keys with AHK but with other program...

read little up  , at anubis's part
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 09:36 PM
his videos mean nothing now, look up and read my example with peeing, it's same, lmao!
(It's like a man who would like to proof he didn't pee the floor near the toilet, and show everyone that he is able to pee sitting on the toilet)

and MI didn't ban him because of lost games LOL, we played in last season over 10 ttrr games which mostly of them he lost, and there wasn't any jar
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 09:40 PM
Guaton, but what do yu want from me? everytime xD ahhaha

I don't think that's ridicolus and it will be very usefull for everyone and to stop to chat in this topic. It seems a kindergarten. In front of the evidence everyone ll shut up. And yes mine was also a provocation, because no one answers about that. If they ll show the truth nobody ll talk anymore and just stop. I think that would be the best way. If not when we gonna finish? next year ? oto tal k about the scratching of smok ?!
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:40 PM
As I said, I don't have problem with anyone but it's just unfair.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 08, 2011, 09:43 PM
As I said, I don't have problem with anyone but it's just unfair.

well yeah , if sm0k doesnt get a reason (proofs) about his ban , its obviously unfair
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: zippeurfou on August 08, 2011, 09:44 PM
Maceij, I never used AHK or whatever it's called. But before banning someone don't you think it's legitime to proove it ?
You tap pretty quick too. Should I boot you for that ?
You're saying it's pretty obvious but it ain't. People call anubis the biggest cheater ever and he is not even sure smok did cheat.
It's just not that obvious he did cheat and if there are no real proof I don't see why he should be.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: GodiTo on August 08, 2011, 09:48 PM
As I said, I don't have problem with anyone but it's just unfair.

well yeah , if sm0k doesnt get a reason (proofs) about his ban , its obviously unfair

Maceij, I never used AHK or whatever it's called. But before banning someone don't you think it's legitime to proove it ?
You tap pretty quick too. Should I boot you for that ?
You're saying it's pretty obvious but it ain't. People call anubis the biggest cheater ever and he is not even sure smok did cheat.
It's just not that obvious he did cheat and if there are no real proof I don't see why he should be.

If anyone still gets me wrong, then that's what I mean!
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 09:52 PM
@zipp
well yes, I have to agree it's kinda unfair, but I strongly believe that MI (and probably CS or someone else from t17, who he has to work with) has sure smok cheats and don't want to show the proof to everyone for some reason (example like lacoste mentioned).

@Peja
And yeah Peja, my proof is something like that, so it couldn't mean much for you or the others, but this is a person I really respect, and I'm sure he doesn't kid.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 09:54 PM
Maceij, I never used AHK or whatever it's called. But before banning someone don't you think it's legitime to proove it ?
You tap pretty quick too. Should I boot you for that ?
You're saying it's pretty obvious but it ain't. People call anubis the biggest cheater ever and he is not even sure smok did cheat.
It's just not that obvious he did cheat and if there are no real proof I don't see why he should be.

Actually, even if I did say yes that looks cheated to me I would highly forbid using my word as evidence or proof. Like I stated before, I am glad I don't have to justify a ban with "take my word".

Even back in AL (if someone remembers) when this aussie was accused of using xSpeed we never could proof it but we had to believe Deadcode who said that he used it. No real evidence was made public or told us, it was just the word of Deadcode or Cybershadow, can't remember.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 09:56 PM
@zipp
well yes, I have to agree it's kinda unfair, but I strongly believe that MI (and probably CS or someone else from t17, who he has to work with) has sure smok cheats and don't want to show the proof to everyone for some reason (example like lacoste mentioned).

@Peja
And yeah Peja, my proof is something like that, so it couldn't mean much for you or the others, but this is a person I really respect, and I'm sure he doesn't kid.

But Maciej, aren't we back then to what you stated before that reputation or appearance means more than real evidence?

Sorry double post.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 08, 2011, 10:03 PM
@zipp
well yes, I have to agree it's kinda unfair, but I strongly believe that MI (and probably CS or someone else from t17, who he has to work with) has sure smok cheats and don't want to show the proof to everyone for some reason (example like lacoste mentioned).

@Peja
And yeah Peja, my proof is something like that, so it couldn't mean much for you or the others, but this is a person I really respect, and I'm sure he doesn't kid.

But Maciej, aren't we back then to what you stated before that reputation or appearance means more than real evidence?

yeee.... you have a point, hard topic

I guess smok and Sniper have been caught for the same reason, and Sniper doesn't oppose it...

but of course since MI doesn't show us the proof we can't be sure in 100%, but I almost am, anyway
Godito says he knows him and doesn't believe he could cheat, but smok is liar, he never used 1 space as he tried to say us. He told me that he cheated in sW times, that he used to use the script in the past, and... his tap didn't change from these times much.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darkmaul on August 08, 2011, 10:48 PM
MI is one of the kindest league admin I've ever seen, he is giving many chances to insulting/cheating players. So if he banned these two then he must've had good reasons. And questionning his decision is a bit inappropriate, he has done a lot for this community and after all it's his website.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NAiL on August 08, 2011, 10:53 PM
people shouldnt be banned from the forum... a league ban is enough. At least give people a chance to respond and explain themselves...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 11:02 PM
MI is one of the kindest league admin I've ever seen, he is giving many chances to insulting/cheating players. So if he banned these two then he must've had good reasons. And questionning his decision is a bit inappropriate, he has done a lot for this community and after all it's his website.

Can you show me the chance sm0k actually had? Sorry no offense but the many doesn't really apply to sm0k when he had no chance to either defend, proof or validate his case. I mean, Sniper said he used it, sm0k did not and that is the difference in this case. And even more so he got his mouth closed by banning him from the entire league, that is not even close to a chance for him.  :(
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 08, 2011, 11:04 PM
MI is one of the kindest league admin I've ever seen, he is giving many chances to insulting/cheating players. So if he banned these two then he must've had good reasons. And questionning his decision is a bit inappropriate, he has done a lot for this community and after all it's his website.

Nobody says that Mi doesn't do enough for the community, everyone knows that. And yu are wrong saying "he's giving many chance to insult cheaters"..I mean, not yu wrong, but we can stop to insult and create 1000 pages about that. if we can check the proof and rightly the way to find the cheaters everything would be clear without chaos, without words war.
For sniper it was clear about his cheating, 1 week he couldn't tap a shadow and the week later he did "fr" or something like that xD... for smoke it's a little bit less clear, I guess.
BUt, in front of the evidence everyone ll shut the f@#! up.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Guaton on August 08, 2011, 11:05 PM
people shouldnt be banned from the forum... a league ban is enough. At least give people a chance to respond and explain themselves...

yes
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darkmaul on August 08, 2011, 11:13 PM
MI is one of the kindest league admin I've ever seen, he is giving many chances to insulting/cheating players. So if he banned these two then he must've had good reasons. And questionning his decision is a bit inappropriate, he has done a lot for this community and after all it's his website.

Can you show me the chance sm0k actually had? Sorry no offense but the many doesn't really apply to sm0k when he had no chance to either defend, proof or validate his case. I mean, Sniper said he used it, sm0k did not and that is the difference in this case. And even more so he got his mouth closed by banning him from the entire league, that is not even close to a chance for him.  :(

I meant people in general on this site. And I agree with you that he should be able to talk here since he didn't do anything wrong on forums.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 08, 2011, 11:25 PM
Yeah let's all wait it up and see what the mods / MI has to say to this and not create huge pages, but it's good that there are people that voice their opinion regarding something like that. (pro and contra). :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 09, 2011, 12:38 AM
On the Deadcode/Cybershadow "take my word" story: I'm sure there is proof, but they probably can't make it public or else people might be able to exploit it.

Imagine someone breaks into your house, would you explain to him how you caught him so he can do better next time? :D
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Devilage on August 09, 2011, 12:53 AM
two spaces to tap? u f@#!ing kidding me? lol.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: nino on August 09, 2011, 01:00 AM
i dont really get this thing of FR, sure it might help but i see to many good players like dub, and mablak, just use one and own so much.  :-X brb food  :-X

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 09, 2011, 01:02 AM
On the Deadcode/Cybershadow "take my word" story: I'm sure there is proof, but they probably can't make it public or else people might be able to exploit it.

Imagine someone breaks into your house, would you explain to him how you caught him so he can do better next time? :D

That's the nature of these things, people violate, people justify, people find a way around it etc. Be it Anti Virus Protection, Security, laws, piracy etc. If you want to be fair you have to justify your actions in almost all areas.

As for your someone breaks into your house story, there are even TV Shows that show crime and how it was done. xD
Bit of german off-topic: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktenzeichen_XY_%E2%80%A6_ungel%C3%B6st

See even if the ban is lifted again, sm0k suffered (reputation) a lot for these things and Worms is a small community, so yeah a little PM to him would probably be enough showing him what made them ban him for cheating. MI should actually state if they use a program to analyze the replays so it would at least half-way justify saying nothing about it. But right now it's just you are banned because I say so.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 09, 2011, 05:31 AM
i highly doubt MI would ban anyone for no reason... he has only done that once in his admin career, and that was to me (hauahauah jk)

but, im willing to bet MI has a way to detect the cheaters, and there is no reason to tell the cheaters how to detect it, thats just stupid...then they will try to work around that

basically i feel this, if MI is 100% sure, sm0k needs no explanation and neither does anyone here.. all he has to do is reply to this thread that he is 100% sure.. however, if he is not 100, then its only fair to pull sm0kz ban... 
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 09, 2011, 06:49 AM
Disliking has nothing to do with leaving tdc. Doggy i love u<3xD
I talked with u about ur taps when u were in tdc and u told about weird script and told me not to say about it to other ppl. I didnt understand what u meant and asked whats that but u didnt want to talk. U could only do "perfect" taps and "rope releases" with the script. Then i started to talk about timing and hw did u get ur timing like that. U didnt even know what timing means ROFL! 

I have seen replays where u rope without the script(like the replay of ur video) but it didnt take away the fact that u have used script.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 09, 2011, 09:40 AM
The case of sm0k and SnipeR is like handling a a guilty person who is from a poor family and handling a guilty person who comes from a rich. The poor goes down almost instantly, while the rich one messes the media, brings all kind of evidences and put the whole thing in a position, that everyone is so confused, doubt is everywhere and people from both sides just want to put an end to it.

About league moderators who are not replying in this thread yet, at this point, I ask them not to reply and get themselves involved with this. Let this be on me.

I won't say the full reasons/assumptions we've had on this. I banned both players for 2 weeks, with full forums and games, simply because I announced such penalty before. Using AHK is not considered as cheat, except that specific script which was violating one of the game concepts. You can create 10 spaces on your keyboard, we don't mind. But each space must be released first to allow the other one to send the next shot. Having spaces which automatically release the previous space is a cheat. Now AHK or any other program that enables you this feature will be counted as a cheat.

I don't mind accusing me for personal feelings toward sm0k and the fact that I lost. But what will degrade your opinion to me is that you don't watch the games at all (or with enough attention) and close your eyes and defend.
In sm0k's case, I played 9 games with him. 7 WxWs and 2 TTRRs. I beat him in WxW 4-3 and I did 1-1 on TTRR which gave me more points than him cause his TTRR rank was higher than me. So in both WxW and TTRR I beat him. On addition, I even didn't delete his won game vs me cause of "the cheat", because I strongly believe if I'm better I'll beat my opponent even though he is cheating. What you did was just made your next comments less important.

Who in this thread, have REALLY watched 9 games? You know after these many games you will learn your opponent roping style.

As I said before, sm0k is a great roper. I believe he has an extra way of roping using some tool. Which through the years he used less and less but it is still there. But even without it, he is a great roper. We can make him to make us a HD movie about his TTRR and whole set of storyline, how did he started roping, some love scenes ... But it doesn't prove a thing. Because in all his movie "he will sit on the toilet peeing". I know I would!

I don't want to expand this, for sm0k's sake. sm0k can play his innocent card and wait for his ban to get finished (7 days from now), get unbanned, and blame me for the rest of his worms life OR we can go into the depth of this thing, which there's possibility to ruin your "oldschool" reputation for good.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 09, 2011, 09:47 AM
Quote
. I believe he has an extra way of roping using some tool

was the decision based on beliefs?
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 09, 2011, 10:05 AM
SMOKE:

"sm0k:

i never said i got a ban coz of that games against you mi, i just said it were after that games.. and i just wonder why i get a ban after that games and not earier. but this dont rly matter. you still didnt tell me any reasson. till yet it looks like you guess i use something. but dude.. what the point.. i got 2 weeks ban.. and after this 2 weeks i gonna play again and get banned for the same reasson? even if i dont cheat. thanx that u belive that i can rope good without any scripts or somethign else.. but i rly dont use something. and at least it would be nice if you would send me soemthing on privat. i still dont knwo the rasson of my ban.. i just know "you guys think i use something".. but be serious .. in ur post u wrote i use something for a long time.. but i use it dont that much , just sometimes.. but its still there.. you rly belive that? 

camello.. when i were in tdc i told you about that sw script. you also can even donwload that sw script on sw page. and dude .. dont be such a liar.. you know i stoped to use it in league games. it where long tiome ago too. i cant remeber evrything well. i remember i still used that script sometimes in offline games or fun games to make some good movie tricks. but thats all. and yes you dislike me .. or tell me a reasson why u never chat with me ;p since i left you didnt saif any wotd to me.. may sometimes hf and gg. i stil dont know your problem.. but its a different thema.. "
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: NinjaCamel on August 09, 2011, 10:59 AM
U never said that u stopped to using it and ur talks about taps just sounded too weird. Dunno whats the script in sw site. Just watch those replays which mi uploaded to the ban topic.... Even blind sees dämn weird things there. I havent had so much interest to talk after i realized ur script. This chat will go for nothing.

About those wxws against mi. There u rope clearly without script. U never had that kind of "problems" when we played.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 09, 2011, 01:09 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 01:17 PM
cheater is cheater, i dont believe sm1 who starts to cheat will stop it just like that, so u cut the bullshit smoke, why started cheating at start?
i dont see a reason why sm1 would believe that, SOME THINGS WILL NEVER CHANGE!!!!
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 01:19 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.
:O hahaha best sentence ever. dunno what to say, u are my new irracional hero <3 i love ur way of think LMAOO
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 09, 2011, 01:23 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.
:O hahaha best sentence ever. dunno what to say, u are my new irracional hero <3 i love ur way of think LMAOO

Don't get too used to ass licking, when you notice I have no sympathy for it you will start the hating.

It's the usual process. Ask Nail.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 01:29 PM
once again no idea what are u talking about muhahaha thats why i called u "IRRACIONAL" and finished sentence with LMAOOOO coz it was joke, i wanted to say that i think u are stupid but didint want to insult u, but once again u have no idea what ppl try to tell u, work on ur superior communicative skills lil more ;p
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 09, 2011, 01:38 PM
once again no idea what are u talking about muhahaha thats why i called u "IRRACIONAL" and finished sentence with LMAOOOO coz it was joke, i wanted to say that i think u are stupid but didint want to insult u, but once again u have no idea what ppl try to tell u, work on ur superior communicative skills lil more ;p

I think the failure in the communication between you and me is due to your severe lack of english understanding, as well as being either very young or very slow.

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 01:41 PM
ok man u are so f@#!ing brilliant, mature, intelligent, smart, and f@#! knows how fantastic u are, im too stupid, slow, immature and irracional to talk with u... hahahha where the f@#! ppl like u come from?
oh and ur sense of humor? its f@#!ing epic ur jokes makes me almost strangle myself
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 09, 2011, 01:54 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.

I will try not to call it, or I will get warn...

another exmaple of person, who's trying to make believe he's smart, but he doesn't even know the basis.
How many times should we say yet how the script works, to make you understand?

just calm down :)


and anyway, even if it works like you silly think, cheat is cheat, and it's NOT allowed in league, respect it and stop using it, or just don't play league.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 09, 2011, 01:58 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.

I will try not to call it, or I will get warn...

another exmaple of person, who's trying to make believe he's smart, but he doesn't even know the basis.
How many times should we say yet how the script works, to make you understand?

just calm down :)

i don't care how much you think you know about scripts or roping, I stand by what I said. Do you even realize how many roping macros I've actually had the opportunity to play around with?
I just can't help but find it amusing, the roping arguments that happen nowadays, you'd struggle to find 3 people in wormnet capable of doing interesting things with a ninja rope.
I'd be damned if you find someone who I usually beat who beats me with the help of this macro.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 01:59 PM
SILENCE, u are not smart enough to argue with our great master who knows and understands everything, and is too smart even for himself muhaha
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 09, 2011, 02:14 PM
SMOKE:
"sm0k:
guys stop to make replays here.. this become a war .. and it dont have any sense anyway.. mods or mi never would stand for their mistake.
i give up and wait up my time.. even if i didnt use any cheats..
moderators and mi showed me (and some of my m8s) just that they dont have any idea about roping and banned me coz i rope nice.. thats all..
if i get another ban then the real war will start.. u can belive me that..
at least i posted 2 moviez about my rope ( even if its not a clear prove ) .. but the mods didnt do anything. even not a pm what was wrong with my rope..
camello said .. that 2 replays shows exactly that i cheat.. i cant see anything there.. just my "oneday sux rope".

when the next one gonna be banned coz of nice rope .. so hope ppl dont forget this topic..  mods do what they want..  without proving something.. and someday this league will fall by this .. ppl gonna stop to belive anything.. exept some ppl like maciej or camello. that belives evry word what mi or mods say.

i have nothing left to say.. "
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 09, 2011, 02:18 PM
pffffffff what a douchebag, ask him why Cueshark is not being banned for way more better roping than his lololol
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 09, 2011, 04:16 PM
so many pages and people do not understand the simplest of concepts.

if someone beats you with this script.
he beats you without it.

I will try not to call it, or I will get warn...

another exmaple of person, who's trying to make believe he's smart, but he doesn't even know the basis.
How many times should we say yet how the script works, to make you understand?

just calm down :)

i don't care how much you think you know about scripts or roping, I stand by what I said. Do you even realize how many roping macros I've actually had the opportunity to play around with?
I just can't help but find it amusing, the roping arguments that happen nowadays, you'd struggle to find 3 people in wormnet capable of doing interesting things with a ninja rope.
I'd be damned if you find someone who I usually beat who beats me with the help of this macro.

ropa is right there, it doesn't matter how many cheats you enable when you don't know how to do tricks or when you previously don't have roped well. You can't obtain great roping with cheats, you can only enhance your roping skill with it. It's like your roping skill is 10 you can make a 10.2 out of it with cheats but you will never reach 11 just because of cheats.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Camper on August 09, 2011, 04:38 PM


when the next one gonna be banned coz of nice rope .. so hope ppl dont forget this topic..  mods do what they want..  without proving something.. and someday this league will fall by this .. ppl gonna stop to belive anything.. exept some ppl like maciej or camello. that belives evry word what mi or mods say.

i have nothing left to say.. "

MI and the others Mod's have much more credit than anyone here... just saying :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheWalrus on August 09, 2011, 05:53 PM
roping macros really don't do all that much, don't know that a full ban is warranted here.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 09, 2011, 06:08 PM
ropa is not right anubis, he said it does not enhance your roping at all, you say it enhances it slightly but onky after you know certiain tricks....  cheating is cheating... using programs/tools not meant to be used in worms is f@#!ing cheating, and no matter how much or how little it improves your ability its still cheating.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 09, 2011, 06:37 PM
Even improving your roping (and with this script, your accuracy) by just a slight bit - you know how roping works and that a slight bit can be the treshold between a failed turn and an awesome turn.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 09, 2011, 06:44 PM
ropa is not right anubis, he said it does not enhance your roping at all, you say it enhances it slightly but onky after you know certiain tricks....  cheating is cheating... using programs/tools not meant to be used in worms is f@#!ing cheating, and no matter how much or how little it improves your ability its still cheating.

Well now we are running in circles since the use of a key re-mapper would also be considered a cheat by your definition.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Devilage on August 09, 2011, 09:36 PM
lol seems like ropa is owning yall
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: OrangE on August 09, 2011, 10:04 PM
lmfao maciej and his war against cheaters makes me f@#!ing laugh sooo much. Do u guys wanna know why? Read this:

Loooong time ago (2 years and half i guess) I can clearly remember that one day I was looking for a way to make my 2 spaces taps faster. So i thougt about the thing that avoids the tap of the 2nd key if 1st is still pressed down. I was playing wxw's with maciej sometimes, and i knew he could handle programming well coz he told me during a game. So i asked him if there could be a way to avoid that "lock" with 2 spaces. He made me download autohotkey and tried to write a script. He got very interested at my idea and seemed very excited. I was simply curious about the possibilities of WA, i didnt care about cheats, taps, or stuff (after a while i changed my roping style from 2 spaces to 1 finger, and i still tap like that). Well, maciej told me he would make me know if he could write down a script that could work, and showed me some scripts that worked similar. Later I lost contacts with him, but i can clearly remember this story.

So that's why that weird guy makes me so f@#!ing laugh. I really think he's a false person and he's only driven by his anger. (Is he fat or something?)

Peace.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 09, 2011, 10:14 PM
wow Orange, can't believe how you lie, 2 and half years ago I probably roped on 1 space yet (I started fr in february 2008, but I used to play it on one space for first few months), I didn't even know AHK then yet, I am not good programmer (I wouldn't be able to make such a script) and I didn't know you yet then.

It's really sad you lie like that, and don't know really why, it's not any reason if you don't like me, I lost all the respect to you.

edit: or you just confused me with MsC? I know some ppl did.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: sock on August 09, 2011, 10:20 PM
lmfao maciej and his war against cheaters makes me f@#!ing laugh sooo much. Do u guys wanna know why? Read this:

Loooong time ago (2 years and half i guess) I can clearly remember that one day I was looking for a way to make my 2 spaces taps faster. So i thougt about the thing that avoids the tap of the 2nd key if 1st is still pressed down. I was playing wxw's with maciej sometimes, and i knew he could handle programming well coz he told me during a game. So i asked him if there could be a way to avoid that "lock" with 2 spaces. He made me download autohotkey and tried to write a script. He got very interested at my idea and seemed very excited. I was simply curious about the possibilities of WA, i didnt care about cheats, taps, or stuff (after a while i changed my roping style from 2 spaces to 1 finger, and i still tap like that). Well, maciej told me he would make me know if he could write down a script that could work, and showed me some scripts that worked similar. Later I lost contacts with him, but i can clearly remember this story.

So that's why that weird guy makes me so f@#!ing laugh. I really think he's a false person and he's only driven by his anger. (Is he fat or something?)

Peace.
Maybe he was also "simply curious about the possibilities of WA" like you were...

Peace.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 09, 2011, 10:28 PM
come on, he lies to make me cheater (what MI can check)
Time ago I even claimed 2 spaces is cheat (Guaton can support if I remember well), how could I create cheating scripts while I'm not even able to?
about miss this space lock I got to know after we found Sniper cheats, I was surprised that ppl developed something like this.
The Orange story is just bogused from the start to the end.

Anyway, feel free to check my all replays, here, and even from WO from 2008 year (I guess they are still saved), I have never cheat, I have never used anything other than simply keychanger or remapkey (I used remapkey to change win key, because KC can't make it)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: OrangE on August 09, 2011, 10:40 PM
I have VERY good memory maciej. I remember it was you, and all I said is simply the truth.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: OrangE on August 09, 2011, 10:42 PM
lmfao maciej and his war against cheaters makes me f@#!ing laugh sooo much. Do u guys wanna know why? Read this:

Loooong time ago (2 years and half i guess) I can clearly remember that one day I was looking for a way to make my 2 spaces taps faster. So i thougt about the thing that avoids the tap of the 2nd key if 1st is still pressed down. I was playing wxw's with maciej sometimes, and i knew he could handle programming well coz he told me during a game. So i asked him if there could be a way to avoid that "lock" with 2 spaces. He made me download autohotkey and tried to write a script. He got very interested at my idea and seemed very excited. I was simply curious about the possibilities of WA, i didnt care about cheats, taps, or stuff (after a while i changed my roping style from 2 spaces to 1 finger, and i still tap like that). Well, maciej told me he would make me know if he could write down a script that could work, and showed me some scripts that worked similar. Later I lost contacts with him, but i can clearly remember this story.

So that's why that weird guy makes me so f@#!ing laugh. I really think he's a false person and he's only driven by his anger. (Is he fat or something?)

Peace.
Maybe he was also "simply curious about the possibilities of WA" like you were...

Peace.

Yeah, maybe. But a guy that was used to write scripts and stuff shouldnt act like the white knight and accuse people around just to pour out his anger.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 09, 2011, 10:53 PM
wow, macjiei, yu change clan every week..i've just looked at yr tag
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 09, 2011, 10:56 PM
all you already wrote is lie. It's of course hard to proof it's lie, because everybody can bogus such a story, but it's impossible to proof it's truth, as it has never happened.

really poor try, but what a nit you must be, to bogus such a things and lie everybody's here...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: OrangE on August 10, 2011, 12:13 AM
all you already wrote is lie. It's of course hard to proof it's lie, because everybody can bogus such a story, but it's impossible to proof it's truth, as it has never happened.

really poor try, but what a nit you must be, to bogus such a things and lie everybody's here...

ye of course its hard to proof it's truth. i only can say i'm quite sure that happened. i dont care if u keep saying it's a lie.. we all know that your attitude is very poor, i never had to argue with anyone so this should mean something...

btw keep saying i'm a liar, i will keep saying you are a false person..

have fun
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Devilage on August 10, 2011, 01:35 AM
so much shit around, stop accusing ppl of cheating if u dont have proofs imo
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 10, 2011, 04:59 AM
how does it seem like ropa is owning anyone? i think he is confused on what the program does, because it most definitely enhances someones roping.

and yeah anubis, the way i worded it would mean remapping keys is cheating... but c'mon, you know what i meant...

programs used to enhance your ability... such as bypassing space timing... thats cheating, and thats why they are banned.

im not even sure why this is still being discussed, people got banned for good reason, and i hope it sends a message to all the other cheaters out there.

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 10, 2011, 10:25 AM
this discussion is going nowhere, since almost 3 pages.

this is cheat
(http://a.fsdn.com/sd/firehose/017/232/648-1-thumblg.png)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Anubis on August 10, 2011, 07:28 PM
how does it seem like ropa is owning anyone? i think he is confused on what the program does, because it most definitely enhances someones roping.

and yeah anubis, the way i worded it would mean remapping keys is cheating... but c'mon, you know what i meant...

programs used to enhance your ability... such as bypassing space timing... thats cheating, and thats why they are banned.

im not even sure why this is still being discussed, people got banned for good reason, and i hope it sends a message to all the other cheaters out there.



Yeah, I knew what you meant. Just forgot to add it. :)
The short time I tested the script did not make me do better times in ttrr or made me do moves I can't do without, sure here and there the rope shoots faster but also you don't have a reliable space, it's a bit similar to the hardcore modded keyboards where finger-rolling on the edge of space bar with removed spring can produce unwanted taps. Maybe it's just that you have to get used to it.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 10, 2011, 09:31 PM
sorry for maybe a little spam here, but Orange started it, tried to get up some bogus stories about me, so I just have to replay.
As I said everyone can accuse you about any thing they want, without any reasons, but I decided to look for some proofs anyway.
First time I tried AHK was in 7th on June this year, after somebody shown the cheat script on tus, I know the date clearly, because there is still on my desktop file with install the AHK, and there it is written (my desktop is full of rubbish).
I even remember that I didn't know how to use AHK, and I even asked somebody how to make work this script (but I haven't got any answer probably, and afterall I found a way), unfortunately, I don't remember who I asked for, and can't find any talk (maybe it was on snooper, don't really remember).
I even checked my last posts on tus, and this is what I wrote at 7th on June (the first post after checked the script):
Quote
lol, check my taps now, first try with it + I play under other keys usually

and true! you can keep pressed one space and other still works! I have been looking for this solution for my whole fr carrer xD


imo it shouldn't be allowed as it changes possibilities of game, normaly when your space is pressed down, it won't react anymore until it gets up, here it works, so I'm asking, where is timing? Check his video, he presses spaces like mad, without any thinking how he wants it to work, it makes game easier for shadows and scrolls (one of the most important things in rope!)
I hope users of this program will get banned and this program will be not allowed, treat like uwt or other shits like silkworm.

it's not all yet, the day after, I was talking with Stripe on GG (polish msn), he told me that he uses AHK, so I just wanted to check him, and alert about a cheat, that's what I found:
spaw
2011-06-08 22:17:30
DAJ EMAIL give me your emial
2011-06-08 22:17:32
wysle ci I will send you
2011-06-08 22:17:37
czity moje my cheats




Ja
2011-06-08 22:17:53
daj tutaj skrypt give here your script




spaw
2011-06-08 22:17:58
dostepny musisz byc you have to be online to do it
2011-06-08 22:18:00
i ja tez and me too
2011-06-08 22:18:08
i  dodac mnie and add me to the list




Ja
2011-06-08 22:18:10
a nie mozesz wyslac tekstu? Can't you just send me text of the script?




spaw
2011-06-08 22:18:14
moghe I can
2011-06-08 22:18:15
ok
2011-06-08 22:18:22
~PgDn::Suspend, on
~PgUp::Suspend, off



Numpad5::Down
Numpad8::Up
Numpad4::Left
Numpad6::Right
return

a::space


d::space
lshift::f8
return




Ja
2011-06-08 22:19:24
zaraz sprawdze sec, I will check
2011-06-08 22:19:26
;)
2011-06-08 22:21:16
jakie sa twoje spacje? what's your spaces?




spaw
2011-06-08 22:21:19
a d
2011-06-08 22:21:23
f8 = shift
2011-06-08 22:21:24
lewy left
2011-06-08 22:21:31
pisze w krypcie chyba nie it's written in the script, isn't it?




Ja
2011-06-08 22:21:37
o kurwa wow
2011-06-08 22:21:50
ja f8 klasycznie mam xd my f8 is in the classic place xd




spaw
2011-06-08 22:21:59
no spoko i co z moim czitowaniem cool, and what about my cheat?
2011-06-08 22:22:04
wkleic ci filmiki should I show you my video
2011-06-08 22:22:05
?
2011-06-08 22:22:10
jak zaczynalem fr? how I started to fr?
2011-06-08 22:22:15
na razer lycosa? on razer lycosa
2011-06-08 22:22:17
klawie the keyboard




Ja
2011-06-08 22:22:22
czekaj nie o to chodzi wait, it's not about that
2011-06-08 22:22:23
sekunda just a second




spaw
2011-06-08 22:23:04
najlepsze jest to ze nie masz pojecia o tym, bo bys widzial po skrypcie, co oznaczaja linijki the best is, that you completly don't have idea about it, because you would have seen it after see the script, what means each rule
2011-06-08 22:23:10
zwykly remap simply remap
2011-06-08 22:23:14
wyslij do MI send it to MI




Ja
2011-06-08 22:23:14
chyba tak you are probably right
2011-06-08 22:23:18
nie nie no no
2011-06-08 22:23:23
to chyba czyste it seems to be clear
2011-06-08 22:23:28
bo tamten byl w chuj dlugi because the cheat script was f@#!ing long
2011-06-08 22:23:30
ale czekaj but wait
2011-06-08 22:23:33
bo cos nie dziala xd because it still doesn't work for me xd




spaw
2011-06-08 22:23:36
a od kogo masz wchuj dlugi who have you had the long one from?
2011-06-08 22:23:38
wyslij mi send me
2011-06-08 22:23:55
moze bedzie lepszy od mojego i bede w ttrr dobty maybe it will be better than mine, and I will be good in ttrr
2011-06-08 22:23:56
lol




Ja
2011-06-08 22:24:17
no jest lepszy yea, it is better




spaw
2011-06-08 22:24:28
w jakim sensie in which case?
2011-06-08 22:24:31
cos moze byc lepsze it can be better?
2011-06-08 22:24:35
nie sprzetowo? if it's not about the equipment
2011-06-08 22:24:36
lol




Ja
2011-06-08 22:24:41
oj




spaw
2011-06-08 22:24:45
jak uwt? like uwt?
2011-06-08 22:24:48
uwt widac na 100km you can see uwt clearly
2011-06-08 22:24:54
ze 2 razy spacje ci wciska that 2 shots at once
2011-06-08 22:24:56
lol




Ja
2011-06-08 22:25:05
czek j czek j wait wait (here at last I was able to enable this script, lol)
2011-06-08 22:25:09
to twoje j kies  ziwne jest your script is weird




spaw
2011-06-08 22:25:28
ladujesz piszesz (I didn't understand him here, lol)




Ja
2011-06-08 22:25:30
le nie m m liter but I don't have letters




spaw
2011-06-08 22:25:31
ad jest spacja ad is space




Ja
2011-06-08 22:25:32
co jest wtf




spaw
2011-06-08 22:25:35
jak wcisnijesz pg down when you press pg down
2011-06-08 22:25:36
masz AD you have AD
2011-06-08 22:25:39
jak pg up when pg up
2011-06-08 22:25:41
masz spacje you get spaces




Ja
2011-06-08 22:25:43
ok




spaw
2011-06-08 22:25:48
lol o to chodzi lol, that's it
2011-06-08 22:25:52
ze jak czat wlaczasz that if you open the chat
2011-06-08 22:25:57
to piszesz z literami you can write the letters




Ja
2011-06-08 22:25:59
aaaa




spaw
2011-06-08 22:26:02
jak pd up if pg up
2011-06-08 22:26:05
to masz spacje you get spaces
2011-06-08 22:26:11
cala mistyfikacja czita all the way of my cheat
2011-06-08 22:26:13
wygoda comfortable
2011-06-08 22:26:15
xd
2011-06-08 22:27:00
fajne nie? good, isn't it?




Ja
2011-06-08 22:27:57
mam dobre wiesci I have a good new
2011-06-08 22:28:01
nie c itujes  you don't cheat
2011-06-08 22:28:11
nie chitujesz*
2011-06-08 22:28:40
dobra ok
2011-06-08 22:28:41
jetses are you there?
2011-06-08 22:28:42
?




spaw
2011-06-08 22:28:46
jestem lol I am lol




Ja
2011-06-08 22:28:48
to Ci wytlumacze o co cala akcja so I will explain you the story about the 'action'
2011-06-08 22:29:04
to słuchaj so listen

and then I explained him how we found the script, etc
spaw is stripe (his old nick) and Ja = me in polish, it's just me
you can see here that I don't even know what's going on, that I don't know how it is written etc
so how would I create even harder script over 2 years ago?

I know that for mostly of you it's boring to read, and I will probably get some smites again because of off topic, but I just had to replay, if someone accuse me about such a things, and think up bogus stories like this...

so GET THE f@#! OUT LIAR (Orange), poor try, and I really didn't think you are kid like that.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 10, 2011, 09:41 PM
post above TL;DR

but is it me or some people in this thread rejoice about being acussed of cheating? it's as if they think people thinking they cheat makes them better ropers.

i'm sure that if certain players came back they would be acussed of using cybernetic arms...

Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 10, 2011, 09:45 PM
but is it me or some people in this thread rejoice about being acussed of cheating? it's as if they think people thinking they cheat makes them better ropers.

I don't know what you actually mean, but of course it's compliment if somebody thinks that you cheat (while you not), because you know, you got so good timing to make ppl believe you cheat (that you got so fast taps, seemed like cheat), it motivates :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 10, 2011, 09:59 PM
but is it me or some people in this thread rejoice about being acussed of cheating? it's as if they think people thinking they cheat makes them better ropers.

I don't know what you actually mean, but of course it's compliment if somebody thinks that you cheat (while you not), because you know, you got so good timing to make ppl believe you cheat (that you got so fast taps, seemed like cheat), it motivates :)

you sound like a girl, but really, I guess I'm just annoyed, I hate all this talk about finger rolling, cross hand roping, twitch gagging, fist facef@#!ing or whatever it is young people like doing to their spacebars nowadays. It makes me sick, it's as if people are trying to build a room starting from the ceiling, and then you realize they can't even spike the f@#! out of gundam.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 10, 2011, 10:08 PM
macieji squeeze yr pimples and stop to care about cheating  ;D
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 10, 2011, 10:15 PM
but is it me or some people in this thread rejoice about being acussed of cheating? it's as if they think people thinking they cheat makes them better ropers.

I don't know what you actually mean, but of course it's compliment if somebody thinks that you cheat (while you not), because you know, you got so good timing to make ppl believe you cheat (that you got so fast taps, seemed like cheat), it motivates :)

you sound like a girl, but really, I guess I'm just annoyed, I hate all this talk about finger rolling, cross hand roping, twitch gagging, fist facef@#!ing or whatever it is young people like doing to their spacebars nowadays. It makes me sick, it's as if people are trying to build a room starting from the ceiling, and then you realize they can't even spike the f@#! out of gundam.

I started fr after 4-5 years of using 1 finger, m0nk inspired me in his tap, and I wanted to get same :)
Before I started to fr, I could do decent time in ttrr map, I knew lots of tricks too, because wxw was my fav scheme these times.
I'm in worms world longer than you think, I just stayed silent for a years, and just played having fun, I knew cbc too, but I have never registered there, I just wasn't interested in league, just wanted to play :)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 10, 2011, 10:45 PM
ooo jeez, not another post about your finger rolling maciej, seems thats all you talk about... lol

and ropa, why do you have under your name "inventor of roping" i just noticed it are you trying to make new players actually believe that you invented it, and thats why your nick is "ropa" lol?  its kinda an insult to the guys who did invent roping on w2... and you were never even a part of that game.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 10, 2011, 10:55 PM
but is it me or some people in this thread rejoice about being acussed of cheating? it's as if they think people thinking they cheat makes them better ropers.

I started fr after 4-5 years of using 1 finger, m0nk inspired me in his tap, and I wanted to get same :)
Before I started to fr, I could do decent time in ttrr map, I knew lots of tricks too, because wxw was my fav scheme these times.
I'm in worms world longer than you think, I just stayed silent for a years, and just played having fun, I knew cbc too, but I have never registered there, I just wasn't interested in league, just wanted to play :)

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8071/maciej.png)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 10, 2011, 11:09 PM
lol, it wasn't about my fr, well, I used 'fr' word twice, but it was only an answer for ropa post, just follow it lol...
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: darKz on August 10, 2011, 11:13 PM
Maciej, what avi was trying to say is.. You posted that story about how you learned to rope like 3287548 times already. We're getting tired of it. :D
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Maciej on August 10, 2011, 11:23 PM
I know, but there is nothing about it, it was used only to show ropa that I knew how to use rope before, and I'm not that 'young' here.
I'm not the player who thinks fr makes you good (and that's what he suggested), technique and timing is important, fr is some extra bonus, which you can start to try using, when you are a bit bored in normal way, or wanna try something new (or just wanna get faster tap xD)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: TheKomodo on August 11, 2011, 06:49 AM
Man I seriously cringe every time Maciej talks about Roping as if he spiked out his mums clunge...

And Kai, lol, of course it doesn't improve your roping cuz your roping is ridiculously good anyway not exactly a fair trial lol, although I firmly believe it has shit to do with how well you rope, it wouldn't improve me in the slightest because the style of roping tapping like a rabbit gettin laid is just stupid anyway.

Lol ropa, your post about fist f@#!ing made me laugh +1 xD
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 07:06 AM

and ropa, why do you have under your name "inventor of roping" i just noticed it are you trying to make new players actually believe that you invented it, and thats why your nick is "ropa" lol?  its kinda an insult to the guys who did invent roping on w2... and you were never even a part of that game.

Oh shit you've discovered me
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 11, 2011, 07:20 AM
hahahah thats excatly the thing i wanted to ask about recently. inventor of roping? :DDD wtf best joke ever ;d
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 07:26 AM
wtf best joke ever ;d

i know right
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 11, 2011, 12:14 PM
you rly should change that... not fair to the guys who did invent roping..

im sure if i put "inventor of hysteria" by my name there would be plenty of people that are not too happy...

but, do what u want... your a prodigy.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 12:31 PM
Avirex, I've been willing to tell you although I admit I don't really like responding to you because it only motivates you to reply to every single post I make in hopes I react in one way or another.
But seriously, calling me a "prodigy" in what I assume is a sarcastic tone is really not funny.
You're most likely unemployed or work in a really shitty place, you never finished university and you will never do, you think and act like a black person and on top of it you get a kick out of having a bunch of 13 year old WA players nod and laugh to every piece of bullshit you come up with.

You should drop the sarcasm, if compared to you, I am a real f@#!ing prodigy.

edit: just by thinking I could possibly put below my nick "inventor of roping" in a serious way proves how limited you are.

Sorry staff if you feel this is just a flamebait but you knew I'd eventually have to reply to someone following me around making stuid posts even in threads in which you should be promoting serious debate (rok's latest thread). So that's that.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: avirex on August 11, 2011, 02:32 PM
i was just saying you should remove inventor of roping, and its for very good reason... and you cant tell me you did not put it there in hopes of people thinking you are more then just an annoying oldschooler at the forum.

maybe thats why years ago you claimed to all of w:a that you were Jason, from w2... you always have wanted to pretend you were something other then you are.. i have noticed that

your right i will never graduate an university, but wrong(this may be a first) about everything else. I make good money with my career, have a nice place to live, and have a nice girlfriend... I dont think, or act like im black, i act like a product of my environment. Im very sorry that my environment was not with a rich family, in a mansion, being fed with a silver spoon, daddy buying me everything, and not having a worry in the world.. But i have earned everything i have in my life, thats something you will never be able to say prodigy.

and if u have not noticed ropa, you have been the troll lately.. but i dont mind, i love trolls.(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaaNRXjpmi3GkaV-e4mpsxHpBcPeOtu-07sgPhiLXnYD7zHoa9iA)
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 02:47 PM
aw cute, he's telling us about his life in the ghetto
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 11, 2011, 03:04 PM
lol ropa mostly when i read your postings i want to search you in spain and .... your ... until you bleed like a virgin. but your new custom title is amazing and tbh i like your sig.
(https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif) 
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 03:06 PM
well, I guess the difference is there is no one thing I stand about you.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Peja on August 11, 2011, 03:19 PM
well, I guess the difference is there is no one thing I stand about you.

oh you play the girl that is hard to get. anyway i would love to date you :-*

god damm its so exhausting to compensate Alien, i need to be annoying for 2 people.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: theredi on August 11, 2011, 07:50 PM
this shit is getting more and more funny everyday :D i love our new sitcom ropa the annoying and rebellious teenager who is the best in every word he says. mmmm tell us more about ur splendid life.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Aerox on August 11, 2011, 08:12 PM
this shit is getting more and more funny everyday :D i love our new sitcom ropa the annoying and rebellious teenager who is the best in every word he says. mmmm tell us more about ur splendid life.

you sound exactly like the guy in your avatar
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: ANO on August 11, 2011, 08:28 PM
ropa stop to play Fonzie games, Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy BBBBBBBBBBUHAuhauhauha




Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: Devilage on August 12, 2011, 12:45 AM
lol I bet f4st is ropa.
Title: Re: sm0k's video - FR
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 12, 2011, 06:13 AM
@Maciej,
I'll make a code that every time someone is talking about FR, the system changes everybody's signature to your FR history.

@Peja,
You're moderated.

Locked.