Shouldnt I be novice in TEL if ive 1305 overall points? Doesnt really matter the rank but i think could be stats problems in other players too.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/members-stats/Turko/
I was testing new ranks according to some thread. Still haven't rolled it back :)
Elite rank changed from 2200 to 3000. (Each rank is 100 points different from the previous one, previous was 60)
Very nice job, the overall standings (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-stats/?s=overall) look much more interesting now ;)
Still, I have to whine a little, isn't 3000 for a single scheme a little too much? I don't see anyone able to achieve such rating in any scheme; even Komo, who has a winning ratio of nearly 99% in BnG is now worthy of "only" a General rank.
Komo stopped playing BnG when he reached Elite rank. If it was 3000 back then, he would keep playing until then.
I'm just testing with ranks. Maybe 2500 would be reasonable. Who knows!! :)
Yea, 2500 seems better in my opinion. It's extremely hard to achieve, but still doable.
So u need now 200 to reach a new rank. Thanks for answer :)
I kinda wanted to reach Elite rank in all schemes... why did you change it? The thread that Crash opened was about overall standings which is somewhat different. I think the rankings for single schemes were pretty balanced. I dont see anyone having Elite rank in a single scheme that isnt really top at this scheme (someone who can beat everyone at this scheme), but that wasnt true for overall, where people have Elite rank with 2 or more really weak schemes.
Overall rankings do indeed look much better now, but if u really want to say "Elite in a single scheme should be achieved by someone who wins 98% of his games" then 2500 is right. Harsh but right heh.
Still, if u want overall to be just as insane, which is a great incentive for Artic or Random or whoever, then why not also have Overall Elite = Elite in ALL [minus 1] schemes for example. And ofc it will be virtually impossible but thats kinda the point right? In this case though, scheme ranking should remain in the 2200 area.
Afffffff, I was almost there (Elite Rank), with Superstar rank, very disappointed. :( :( :( :( :(
btw where's the topic in Annoucements?
Ye, i think is better the last system.
It's a test for now. We'll probably settle for 2500. Ranks are just labels for points and doesn't affect anything else in the system.
it does not concern me much.... but i think its a little unfair to some players that were going for elite rank, and possibly close... but now have to try harder.....
maybe it would be a better idea to make another rank logo for a higher points... like the 3star elite logo with a big transparent star over the top (just an idea)
just seems unfair to others that because some of the higher skilled players have got the elite, and want more of a challenge, that the lower skilled players that have not reached elite have to wait longer, and try harder to get to their goal....
Quote from: barman on February 27, 2012, 09:32 PM
Very nice job, the overall standings (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-stats/?s=overall) look much more interesting now ;)
Still, I have to whine a little, isn't 3000 for a single scheme a little too much? I don't see anyone able to achieve such rating in any scheme; even Komo, who has a winning ratio of nearly 99% in BnG is now worthy of "only" a General rank.
Actually, I stopped playing because 2v2 is allowed in 1v1 standings, as far as I am concerned it's f@#!ing retarded, I got really drunk one night and lost a 2v2 vs k1ng and someone else, I was under the assumption we weren't even taking it serious because halfway through we were completely dominating then I started f@#!ing around, then everyone else did, I hit myself a couple times, then k1ng saw his chance, and played totally serious and ended up beating us, then angst says he didn't even know it was a serious league match lol, ah well, my stupidity, and partly reason why I quit drinking full stop, I did have a 123 win streak 1v1 BnG until that game, WA has never been the same for me since then...
I still have a 99.whatever% 1v1 ratio, and could probably reach 3000 eventually, but seriously who the f@#! wants to play another 200-500 BnG's for 1-2 points each win? Certainly not me...
Not to mention trying to say I am not Elite at BnG with 227-3 is one of the most dumb, stupid, retarded things i've ever heard... I don't care if that sounds arrogant, it's the truth lol.
Sorry, work was too easy last night, i'm in a bit of a rage lol.
dude, in every new season the points of a win/loss are calculated from your season points against the opponent's overall points in that scheme-----> just wait till the middle/end of every season and you'll have even average players giving you 40+ points, I dont understand what you're talking about :/
Quote from: Desetroyah on February 28, 2012, 08:06 AMI dont understand what you're talking about :/
Overall points.
Quote from: Komito on February 28, 2012, 08:36 AM
Quote from: Desetroyah on February 28, 2012, 08:06 AMI dont understand what you're talking about :/
Overall points.
Aye, you're very right then my man. Tbh I love goals like that heh, it'll literally like an rpg, slow slow progression after hard work, but then again harder than an rpg since a loss bring you back 30-40games...damn
Well, except if you gain more points than normal now.
Quote from: Kaleu on February 28, 2012, 05:22 PM
Well, except if you gain more points than normal now.
This is impossible, for what we are talking about lol. Are you talking about Seasonal? We are talking about Overall, with a winning percentage over 99%.
Quote from: Komito on February 29, 2012, 07:49 AM
with a winning percentage over 99%.
Nearly* ;-)
The number of points gained by winning a game shouldn't be increased, it would be unfair to people who are not playing TUS anymore.
just to get it right, there are now ranks which are just unreachable?
i mean komos stats are insane, why shouldnt he be rewarded for that with the highest rank in bng?
Quote from: barman on February 29, 2012, 08:52 AM
Quote from: Komito on February 29, 2012, 07:49 AM
with a winning percentage over 99%.
Nearly* ;-)
The number of points gained by winning a game shouldn't be increased, it would be unfair to people who are not playing TUS anymore.
I only count 1v1, not the 2v2 games, like I already said lol.
How about having the player with highest rating have the Elite rank and scale it down dynamically from that respective value? Genius? I know!
I do have my bright moments sometimes. :D
I'm not home now, I'll decrease it tomorrow.
Quote from: darKz on February 29, 2012, 10:18 AM
How about having the player with highest rating have the Elite rank and scale it down dynamically from that respective value? Genius? I know!
I do have my bright moments sometimes. :D
The futures bright, the futures orange ! Aahahaha xD
Trying 2500 for Elite rank now. (Decreased from 3000 to 2500)
the ratio between single schemes annd overall is just bad imo.
and I liked the old ranks better then this ;s
Having an elite rank at any single scheme was already hard in my opinion. Same goes to clans where only CF and cfc managed to gain 5800. I'd liked the old ones better too, expcet I don't mind increasing ranks only for overall at single league.
My suggestion (just to sum up dulek's and random's):
- Return the individual scheme rank to how much it was before, but
- Perhaps turn the overall elite rank into an elite-rank-in-all-individual-schemes or something.
This way it will be reasonably hard to have (and maintain ofc) an elite rank in a scheme, but having an overall elite rank would require Elite ranks in all schemes, which is a huge challenge, and therefore a challenge worth having :)
I actually feel 2500 is about right for Elite.
I mean, think about what the word "Elite" means, personally, I feel you should have a winning % of at LEAST 90% to even be considered Elite.
Personally, I think it's shocking people with a win % lower than 80% can be considered Elite, they get beat 1/5 games, that's not very good at all lol...
I think Overall should be 80% to have an Elite rank.
I think the way MI has it right now is perfect :)
That sounds completely f@#!ing gay every sentence starts with "I think..."
I think 80% is Elite. For example, the world's best tennis players at the moment have winnings around 80%. Nadal ~ 82%, Federer ~81%, Dokovic ~ 78%.
Quote from: Random00 on March 03, 2012, 01:13 PM
I think 80% is Elite. For example, the world's best tennis players at the moment have winnings around 80%. Nadal ~ 82%, Federer ~81%, Dokovic ~ 78%.
Well i'd say you are right about them being the best, but if you are being literal, they are not elite, they simply lose too many games to be considered elite...
Elite:
1.
( often used with a plural verb ) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
2.
( used with a plural verb ) persons of the highest class: Only the elite were there.
I ain't saying you don't know what elite means, I am just saying, someone who loses 1 out of every 5-6 games, is not elite... No matter if they are the best at their sport or not... Well in my opinion anyway. They are definately, shit hot at tennis though lol, but not elite...
Like in my opinion i'd say there are only a few "Elite" players in the history of WA ever... And definately not talking about overall skill here, talking about individual schemes...
I think what I am saying here, is, there are players who had the "Elite" rank for overall before with 65-80% win ratios, and that isn't even impressive and almost anyone can do that just by playing alot...
But that's just the way I personally think of the word "elite" I kinda over stress it lol