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Title: the end is coming
Post by: Peja on August 16, 2016, 06:07 PM
introduce money to save the league >>> check
lower the playoff requirements >>> check
reset the overall stats >>> check

Estimate: 820 singles, 115 clanners

if you want a working worms league, you should try to contact jonno or charles, to get something going with wmd.
this would implicate to clean this place from being a playground for retrogressive conspiracy theorists who spread their discriminatory agenda all over this place though.
if history is any indication, this is not likely to happen.
GG  ;)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Anubis on August 16, 2016, 06:12 PM
I approve.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: HHC on August 16, 2016, 06:25 PM
Agree with the poor state. Agree that there is no fix.

Putting ur cards on WMD is ridiculous though. No new gen worms game has worked online, closest came Reloaded, which had like a tiny tourney of 6 teams. More than that the game couldnt support, serverwise, playerwise, communitywise. 99% sure it's not gonna work on WMD.

TUS is not dead yet. 820 single matches is still quite far from 0. Let's hold on to that for the time being :)

I hope that the site stays though, even if wormnet is totally empty or even absent. The maps, schemes, guides are always useful, even for singleplayer gaming. And perhaps we'd still be able to find a game on the forums when the actual channels are all dead.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: AduN on August 16, 2016, 06:39 PM
introduce money to save the league >>> check
lower the playoff requirements >>> check
reset the overall stats >>> check

Estimate: 820 singles, 115 clanners

if you want a working worms league, you should try to contact jonno or charles, to get something going with wmd.
this would implicate to clean this place from being a playground for retrogressive conspiracy theorists who spread their discriminatory agenda all over this place though.
if history is any indication, this is not likely to happen.
GG  ;)

who are you?
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Chelsea on August 16, 2016, 07:12 PM
I agree... Even I lost passion to that game....  :'(
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 16, 2016, 07:28 PM


who are you?

naive little puppet that spreads some bullshit conspiracy theories that wa is dying lmfao, there were always periods like that from time to time so use ur free time for something more constructive, u sound like those mad feminists or other sick people
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheScientist on August 16, 2016, 08:09 PM
Use the water of death and then the water of life.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: h3oCharles on August 16, 2016, 10:28 PM
if you want a working worms league, you should try to contact jonno or charles, [...]

WAIT, WHAT?! WHO?! ME?!

EDIT1: I don't have any plans on buying Worms WMD
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 17, 2016, 02:09 AM
WMD looks good enough to play competitively, it all depends on the online matchmaking etc.

If anything it will be their online setup that screws them.

But yeah in 3 weeks(504 hours) only 4 hours spent playing clanners, mostly because my clan mates were nowhere to be seen when other clans were online, even when there was it was just dt and tdc everyday, so yeah cba anymore wasting time trying to find team games.

Singles is the only thing with a shred of activity left, most are either too scared to play clanners or too unskilled.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Hurz on August 17, 2016, 04:16 AM
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Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Gabriel on August 17, 2016, 04:36 AM
except its winter down here.  :(

and we don't see exactly a big amount of southamerican players on either
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 17, 2016, 06:29 AM
Lol shutup Hurz gamers don't care about weather lol.

Could be asteroid who cares.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Senator on August 17, 2016, 07:52 AM
Remember there's no more money. We've seen people join even shit cups when there's money ;D Season #50 was the last season with prize money and we had 1789 games and 104 players. The following season the numbers dropped to 1323 games and 83 players and now they are even worse. Activity goes also in cycles as redi said. Season #47 we had just 1227 games and 77 players even with prize money. Two seasons later we had 2405 games and 113 players. Better times will come :)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 17, 2016, 08:06 AM
Yes but the biggest problem we suffer from these days is a combination of the following(maybe more):


Lots of players, but very few know/want to play Leagues.

People avoiding(like Chelsea), because they are too scared to play strong players in all schemes.

The people who do play timezones suck for Clanners most of the time.

People being too stubborn to leave dead clans and join another, or people aren't interested in new clans they only want to join famous/already strong clans that don't even need more members.

People playing same scheme over and over again(I used to always pick BnG some years ago, now I pick BnG/Roper/WxW as my main 3, and I was even really enjoying doing Elite clanners but unfortunately there was nobody to f**king play against, i'll play anything except Shopper, Shopper should be banned from Leagues tbh, it's a gateway scheme only.)

Worm Olympics - Yes, it's a nice gesture, and in theory it's a very cool and fun event, the 1st time it ever happened it was pretty cool, but in reality it's the worst thing to ever happen to this game, it spawned an army of noobs, it encourages cheating, aliasing, noob schemes, people not caring, it's poorly organized, with poor feedback from owners, etc, and it gets worse every year, it should happen once every 2 years at most and be organized MUCH better, and be MUCH stricter in who competes, and the stupid point system needs to be improved drastically.

When I originally said resetting league would work, the last time I was properly active was 1-2 years ago, since then i've been turning up in small patches, not realizing how bad it actually got... How wrong was I lol...
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Mega`Adnan on August 17, 2016, 08:32 AM
Lets cri so hard! It's teh enduhh!!!

Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Impossible on August 17, 2016, 11:08 AM
Yes but the biggest problem we suffer from these days is a combination of the following(maybe more):

Lots of players, but very few know/want to play Leagues.

People avoiding(like Chelsea), because they are too scared to play strong players in all schemes.

The people who do play timezones suck for Clanners most of the time.

People being too stubborn to leave dead clans and join another, or people aren't interested in new clans they only want to join famous/already strong clans that don't even need more members.

People playing same scheme over and over again(I used to always pick BnG some years ago, now I pick BnG/Roper/WxW as my main 3, and I was even really enjoying doing Elite clanners but unfortunately there was nobody to f**king play against, i'll play anything except Shopper, Shopper should be banned from Leagues tbh, it's a gateway scheme only.)
All of these are internal problems, okay?
we're dealing with inactivity, and it wont solve it
you can't increase the number of sticks in a box just by shaking it, it requires external influence: adding sticks, right?
external things like pewdiepie doing w:a  lets play would popularize the game dramatically

all i want to say, you guys shifting the same players all over the place and simply changing variables between them, and then.. you're wondering, how's the amount of players not changing, isnt it   funny
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 17, 2016, 01:03 PM
Well as I said to Xanity on Skype earlier, WA isn't dying, just TUS, there are always lots of people/games being played in #AG.

I honestly think, the years of bullying, racism, aggression and machismo on TUS has finally made people not care anymore.

Personally speaking, I would just shut down TUS for 3-6 months, and then re-open it with a completely new design, new rules, new features, but that's me.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: h3oCharles on August 17, 2016, 03:32 PM
Be aware everyone, I messaged MI to look at this topic.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: h3oCharles on August 17, 2016, 03:47 PM
All of these are internal problems, okay?
we're dealing with inactivity, and it wont solve it
you can't increase the number of sticks in a box just by shaking it, it requires external influence: adding sticks, right?
external things like pewdiepie doing w:a  lets play would popularize the game dramatically

all i want to say, you guys shifting the same players all over the place and simply changing variables between them, and then.. you're wondering, how's the amount of players not changing, isnt it   funny

Well, one thing is sure, there's WAR (Worms Armageddon Regeneration) and the promotion project, but of course all of this is not effective.

IMO In order for Worms (Armageddon) be more popular is to change the way they are marketed. T17 is showing off all of the overpowered stuff at the trailers first (Nana, Donkey, Holy Nade) and not skillful zooka shots or amazing roping (ExZo anyone?)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: WTF-8 on August 17, 2016, 03:55 PM
there's WAR (Worms Armageddon Regeneration)
what? somehow I have not heard of this yet
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheWalrus on August 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
there's WAR (Worms Armageddon Regeneration)
what? somehow I have not heard of this yet
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon-promotion-project/

WA promotion project = W.A.R.

also, the sky is falling, i shall perform last rites
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 17, 2016, 11:01 PM

I honestly think, the years of bullying, racism, aggression and machismo on TUS has finally made people not care anymore.

can u elaborate more about this? i find this a total bullshit and lamest explanation only a total sissy can make (or maybe u mean geyslayer`s madness attacks?)

Personally speaking, I would just shut down TUS for 3-6 months, and then re-open it with a completely new design, new rules, new features, but that's me.
like what? no afr in shopper? oh wait we already have it, maybe no afr in roper?  or u mean new points system or what? different pos?
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 18, 2016, 02:33 AM

I honestly think, the years of bullying, racism, aggression and machismo on TUS has finally made people not care anymore.

can u elaborate more about this? i find this a total bullshit and lamest explanation only a total sissy can make (or maybe u mean geyslayer`s madness attacks?)

This is exactly what I am talking about, so much ignorance... (And yes, even I am personally responsible for some of the bullying in the past, not as much as others but I still got involved in witchhunting and namecalling.)

I won't explain it to you anymore redi, because it would take so long, and if you don't see it already then you never will, it's everywhere look for yourself.

Personally speaking, I would just shut down TUS for 3-6 months, and then re-open it with a completely new design, new rules, new features, but that's me.
like what? no afr in shopper? oh wait we already have it, maybe no afr in roper?  or u mean new points system or what? different pos?

I meant website rules, but yes some other rules could be adjusted also.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 18, 2016, 11:05 AM
This is exactly what I am talking about, so much ignorance... (And yes, even I am personally responsible for some of the bullying in the past, not as much as others but I still got involved in witchhunting and namecalling.)

I won't explain it to you anymore redi, because it would take so long, and if you don't see it already then you never will, it's everywhere look for yourself.

what ignorance? i think u want to make urself an political correct idiot (making some stupid excuses...), cant i have different opinion than some sissies? if u call that bullying then u`ve never witnessed real bullying or u are having some emotional problems (well most people do so that wouldnt be something new anyway... i know i have some anger managment problems but i never get angry without a good reason)

people are different and u cant make them emiotionaless robots, well this shit is so complicated that u are right, its pointless to talk about it but dont claim that tus is dying coz of that coz its really dumb
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: darKz on August 18, 2016, 12:24 PM
I can't talk about the league itself because I haven't been playing in like 3 years or so, but the forums are at an all-time low in terms of posting quality. I don't mean to offend anyone but it can hardly be helped: there's almost exclusively idiots posting irrelevant shit in flawed English now. Most of the 'good' guys (objectively, my opinion) already left or aren't posting much anymore because it's become such a shit show.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 18, 2016, 01:06 PM
If that is how you feel redi then whatever, I won't waste my time on uneducated opinions and bigotry.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Chelsea on August 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
the forums are at an all-time low in terms of posting quality. I don't mean to offend anyone but it can hardly be helped: there's almost exclusively idiots posting irrelevant shit in flawed English now.

Maybe I'm not holly, but when I read post's wrote by: Aerox, Tobi, biscuits, Godmax, Taner, Mink and Vesuvio (+ stupid "fight" like 10 years old kids by Kinslayer and Tita) I also think about leave that game.... Anyway I'm not as active as I was 2-3 years ago... or even last year...
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: zippeurfou on August 18, 2016, 01:57 PM
Not sure if the game is dying or anything. The only observation that I have is that it seems to me that there is no more people like vokking vok (aka new player willing to play a lot in leagues in order to gain skills). I have observed a lot of "generation" go from being total noob to what we call very good player. Most of them would play single league game a lot and try (for the most case) to get involved on the forums and get a clan.
Good news is that with WMD I would not be surprised to see new players give a try to WA :).
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: nino on August 18, 2016, 02:08 PM
I think that the main problem is that us the Generation of WA, we are getting old, married, busy with work, in jail, playing in bands ( Mablak xD) or w/e.

So we are from the gereration that made that game pwn, we are / were  passionate for this game, but we just cant live forever playing this game, we gotta do others things and the new generation just dont like WA like we used to, they got others avaliable stuff to care and stuff, look so many old schools are gone and each day one or tho loses the interest for the game, me per exemple.. i used to play this game like for all day long.. now i wish i could but i have others things to do...iam sure that happens for 80% of these who did stop playing... so ye the end already arrived we are just here cos we are like perv kids that after cum on the face of bitch, refuses to put pants back and go home!
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 18, 2016, 07:53 PM
Damn right zipper and nino! you hit the point perfectly but this is what i expect from cool and wise people and not crying egomaniacs with sticks in their asses who want to show how educated and mannered they`re.

Im so sorry for my flawed english darkz (if u meant me e.g.), i wont waste 3x more time to write my posts checking if my sentences are 100% grammar and syntax coz i write in english like i were writing in polish, i simply translate it with changing the words it may look wierd im aware but its not my problem.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 19, 2016, 08:44 AM
and not crying egomaniacs with sticks in their asses

This is very funny because you are the one acting that way  ;D

I said something, you started crying = HAH! I love when people own themselves :D
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 19, 2016, 10:24 AM
buahuahuahua yeye keep dreaming, whateva...
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: TheKomodo on August 19, 2016, 10:42 AM
Lol np mate, but remember me and you can handle it, but not everyone can, in the end we should show respect and be better role models for potential new players.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 19, 2016, 10:52 AM
I know, i always try to show respect and be kind to people, but sometimes its so damn hard  :(
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 19, 2016, 11:27 AM
I`ll tell u even more, you had some right, i also act sometimes like egomaniac and hypocrite. Im very aware that im not perfect but some people cant learn it and they act like they are always right and 100% correct (damn chosen one syndrom) and this is the reason why we`re having such hell on earth  >:(
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: SPW on August 19, 2016, 03:09 PM
Everything will be okay in the end. If its not okay, its not the end!
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Csongi on August 19, 2016, 06:06 PM
Everything will be okay in the end. If its not okay, its not the end!

Period!        xd
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: reN`s on August 20, 2016, 01:35 AM
well in all the time i'll see some old players coming and going in W:A for a period determined that defines the activity of this game in the remainder of the year as it enters an inactive player other leave the game
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: MonkeyIsland on August 20, 2016, 08:44 AM
Many posts on this thread have summed up the issue pretty well.

All of the W:A communities are getting more inactive. This is not TUS specific. WO is not the same, NNN is not the same either.
The non-casual crew of W:A is getting old. In a couple of months, TUS will become 8 years old.

TUS needs renovating, that's for sure. I don't mean it as a way to bring activity alone. Such website with such content/history deserves to be polished.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Aerox on August 20, 2016, 12:38 PM
Team17 will never associate itself with this forum

the moderation is borderline non-existent, no videogame company is going to partner with a forum where racism runs rampant. 
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: theredi on August 20, 2016, 09:09 PM

the moderation is borderline non-existent, no videogame company is going to partner with a forum where racism runs rampant.



U forgot about xenophobia lmfao. Nevermind I wont let myself get mad because of such stupidity anymore.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Aerox on August 21, 2016, 08:08 AM
feeling alluded?
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: h3oCharles on August 21, 2016, 08:29 AM
Team17 will never associate itself with this forum

If you think of Team17 as the company, yes, they are never ever going to do that. I invited Jonno (Community Manager) to only look at a specific thread and that's it. He wasn't looking anywhere else.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Anubis on August 22, 2016, 02:40 PM
Team17 will never associate itself with this forum

I invited Jonno (Community Manager) to only look at a specific thread and that's it. He wasn't looking anywhere else.

So we have a Community Manager that doesn't care about the Community, sweet.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: XanKriegor on August 22, 2016, 02:47 PM
He did not reply on any of the others, it doesnt mean he did not read them.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Ytrojan on July 18, 2017, 04:28 PM
There will be a time when the two WA Developers would have to release a 4.0 public beta, just to get players back.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Godmax on July 18, 2017, 04:56 PM
Worms will survive forever and there never will be a patch 4.0 like there will never be a golden toilet seat in my shithouse
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Mega`Adnan on July 18, 2017, 05:14 PM
Feels more like this (https://youtu.be/0xdcA2UmLkU?t=9m41s).
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Ytrojan on July 19, 2017, 06:09 PM
Worms Armageddon will probably last for a long time, but it can't last for all eternity. Everything dies at one point.


That Said, Worms Armageddon can last for a time close to forever if Deadcode and Cybershadow play their cards right. And especially if Worms Armageddon 4.0 comes out, which this page (http://www.worms-ng.com) shows the progress of.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Chicken23 on November 10, 2017, 11:51 PM
i recently saw the video games Guinness book of records. I actually made me think of WA and if there was a way that the community to reach out to Guiness World Records to come up with a Worms world record. I guess the easiest would be for an agreed RR map to be selected and to compete for the worlds fast ninja rope racer. Maybe there is some PR Team17 can do or as a community we could reach out and put WA back in the public eye, this might bring some players back out of the wood work to try and be world record holder in W:A.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Korydex on November 11, 2017, 07:56 AM
Mablak was gonna make missions speedrun but haven't heard from him in a while. So the current record holder is Pichi (https://www.speedrun.com/Worms_Armageddon). Also I made deathmatch run (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpZEji2t4Lc). But there were no competitors so far...
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Mablak on November 11, 2017, 08:32 AM
Yeah Chicken the lack of competitors is a bit unfortunate, people are generally into speedruns though when it comes to records. I finished my speedrun months ago; I really can't think of further ways to optimize it. But I don't have a good enough laptop to actually record it without constant lag, so I haven't been running it like at all. Here's one run via replays though (not that great but shows the methods):
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Korydex on November 11, 2017, 09:00 AM
These replays are really amazing!
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: lacoste on November 12, 2017, 09:17 AM
Can i use some of these replays to make clips out of them and then put onto my channel?
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Korydex on November 12, 2017, 12:05 PM
Mablak, go to AGDQ and they will record it for you ;D
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: KinslayeR on November 12, 2017, 12:30 PM
the end is just a beginning
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Mablak on November 12, 2017, 08:41 PM
Thanks Kory, and yeah lacoste, feel free. If you tell me which missions you want, I can probably give you better replays than those.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: lacoste on November 14, 2017, 04:47 PM
Thanks Kory, and yeah lacoste, feel free. If you tell me which missions you want, I can probably give you better replays than those.

Thanks, not very soon though. I will let you know once I sit onto it. I havent even seen every single one of them yet xd
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: MrTPenguin on May 24, 2018, 10:14 AM
Glum fact: the last 1v1 intermediate TUS game occurred over six months ago.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Dr Abegod on May 24, 2018, 03:03 PM
Inter anyone
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Anubis on June 04, 2018, 12:19 AM
It is happening for real this time.

At least I can say that I was here from the beginning 2000 till the end (I predict 2019). I might have left and joined a lot of W:A clans but nobody can say I wasn't around here in good and bad. :)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: sock on June 04, 2018, 01:08 AM
I might have joined and left too many
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: KinslayeR on June 04, 2018, 11:03 AM
I was in dP by 20 years, and never joined any other clan, give me medal of honour
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: MonkeyIsland on June 05, 2018, 05:36 AM
Thanks for your royalty and all your service to the community!

(http://www.ufstarfleet.org/wiki/images/archive/2/2f/20090208225357%21Medal_of_Honor.png)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Csongi on June 05, 2018, 03:29 PM
Indeed!! Thanks for everything..Kinslayer for President, ladies and gents!!!

<3 <3

(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*WEe12m3W1pyby00G4Uvc5Q.jpeg)
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: sock on June 05, 2018, 09:45 PM
Congratulations KinslayeR! Great job!
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Anubis on June 06, 2018, 12:59 AM
This is the moment we have all been waiting for, I am glad to witness this once in a lifetime event.
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Thewolensheep on June 06, 2018, 02:32 AM
This is the moment we have all been waiting for, I am glad to witness this once in a lifetime event.
Indeed
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Ytrojan on June 10, 2018, 10:37 PM
This feels like the fall of Rome, as a new dark age will begin if 3.8 isn't released soon, because WA might die (hey, at least it isn't Always Online.).
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Chicken23 on July 18, 2018, 10:03 PM
is there a way of merging free league and classic, and reducing season length again so there is something to aim for?

I guess i'd play more if i knew when i came online i could find a competitive game.

There is the argument why a game needs to be league vs non league to be competitive but its way more fun when all points logged somewhere and you see progress and historical stats
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: MaStEr on April 27, 2019, 03:21 PM
HOLA  ;D
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Ytrojan on April 27, 2019, 04:55 PM
POST-GRAVEDIG UPDATE: Worms Armageddon still has nobody but noobs and snoopers, and with 3.8 being delayed, I fear that this game might die a slow painful death. Unless 3.8 gets released soon, which might not ever happen, Worms Armageddon will continue to get worse and worse until its eventual demise when Team17 decides to pull the plug due to nobody playing it. If you want all those great things back, just pray that Worms Armageddon gets updated. If it doesn't, then RIP Worms Armageddon (1999-2019; didn't even get old enough to drink).
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: Ytrojan on June 26, 2019, 09:55 PM
Wormnet is having technical difficulties


Is this a sign of the end?!
Title: Re: the end is coming
Post by: WTF-8 on June 28, 2019, 07:41 AM
no idea which difficulties you're talking about, but they happen every now and then and it's still allive