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Title: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on October 27, 2012, 04:53 PM
Can we get this lowered? or at least be activity dependent?

TEL: 20 games  (8 players would already be highlighted by now, with one third of the season left)
TRL: 20 games  (3 players could be highlighted, with two thirds of the season left)
HAL: 20 games  (4 players could be highlighted, with two thirds of the season left)


And also have a rule in place that makes it clear a Top4 could do a playoff if not enough qualified to have a Top8 playoff. (maybe even just a Top2 if absolutely necessary)
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Impossible on October 27, 2012, 04:57 PM
trl kaos have to be played bo3, its much harder to get 20 games compare to ttrr or hyst
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on October 27, 2012, 05:02 PM
right, "or at least be activity dependent?"

so for TRL kaos, even going down to 10 'games' with bo3 could actually mean 20-30 games were played
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Peja on October 27, 2012, 05:28 PM
20 is a f@#!ing joke imo. each league takes about 2 months. a game is about 20 min. so you do you really think a effort of 200 min each month should be rewarded with a playoffspot? if someone wanna reach playoffs he should be able to do something for it. its not really hard to save 1 hour each day for a league game.(ofc kaos is excluded)
if you lower down the minumum it will be even easier for people to abuse system like gabriel did here: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/TRL-standings/?s=8


Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on October 27, 2012, 05:39 PM
well if the minimum stays 50 games, then at least have the last part from my post:

"have a rule in place that makes it clear a Top4 could do a playoff if not enough qualified to have a Top8 playoff. (maybe even just a Top2 if absolutely necessary)"
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: TheWalrus on October 28, 2012, 02:45 AM
(http://s11.postimage.org/5nfahbr43/sign_profe.jpg)
LMAO
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: SPW on October 28, 2012, 01:51 PM
I agree to franz' idea with 20 games. Quality > Quantity.

And also drop the amount of games against same opponent on 3 each season.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: philie on October 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
(http://s11.postimage.org/5nfahbr43/sign_profe.jpg)
LMAO

lololololol +1
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Sbaffo on October 28, 2012, 06:48 PM
mm you should see first wich league is more played, for example i see that hal is a lot played so you put something like 40 or 30 games
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on October 28, 2012, 08:07 PM
right, again it's one of the possibilities I mentioned: "at least be activity dependent?"

just one minimum game requirement that fits all and never changes due to activity is bad.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 28, 2012, 08:38 PM
See how does it look franz.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: van on October 28, 2012, 08:45 PM
20 is definitely too few, I'd say 30/40. Actually 35 seems to be a perfect amount with the current activity.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on October 28, 2012, 09:11 PM
20 is definitely too few, I'd say 30/40. Actually 35 seems to be a perfect amount with the current activity.

It looks good MI for now :) but again, a long term solution would be best to account for varying activity levels. (or should we really want to go on like this, just asking for different minimum counts in the middle of every season?)

here's a rough draft idea using total games played from Seasons Information:

150-700 total games could = 20 game minimum
700-???  = 30?
etc
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Devilage on October 29, 2012, 02:42 AM
I think 35 as van said!
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Devilage on November 06, 2012, 11:16 PM
20 games? srsly? that brought the activity of tel down since u made the 8 players getting into the po's.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: franz on November 07, 2012, 12:32 AM
good, discussion on this is healthy I think.

from what I saw: no, the pace of games at the start of the season was big, but already by that post's time it had trailed off substantially to where it is now. so if you really want to look deep into it to prove your point, I'd start there. still, I'd argue if anything, those interested to squeeze in would be playing more to compete for a spot, not less.

alternatively, I'd still like to see some long term activity-based solution that could go off total games played, whether that be higher than the 20 minimum asked here, or not. as long as there's that rule in place that makes it clear a Top4 (or Top2) could do a playoff if not enough qualified to have a Top8 playoff. (so if it was 35 minimum right now by current activity level, only Devilage/Lukz would qualify and have a Top2 playoff)

simply putting a static/high minimum without a rule like above I argue is even more discouraging after the initial rush at the beginning of seasons because many wouldn't see any point to continue playing if 8 don't qualify.

and again alternatively, we could just continue revisiting this topic late in season's to figure out the best minimum, and maybe shoot higher if we want to aim for a Top4 or like you say, encourage more playing up to Top8.
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: Ray on November 04, 2013, 06:37 PM
What is the current minimum amount of games to qualify for the singles Playoffs for TEL?
Title: Re: Minimum game requirement
Post by: MonkeyIsland on November 04, 2013, 06:51 PM
20