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Title: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 03, 2013, 12:08 AM
This kind of bng maps sux ass.. For a long time now.
Sabotage at least.
Beep!
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Husk on January 03, 2013, 12:28 PM
I agree

I was hosting a bng clanner the other day, the opposing clan refused to play on a map I selected, and instead they hosted with a map like this lol
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Chelsea on January 03, 2013, 12:32 PM
Easy allways use this type of maps :P
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Prankster on January 03, 2013, 12:40 PM
I just call these notch-maps.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: chakkman on January 03, 2013, 02:29 PM
This is really a bad map. It's all flat on top!
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Prankster on January 03, 2013, 02:48 PM
I have an idea, Ram! Change the black background, upload this map as a mole shoppa and name it something like "this is what maps like this are good for"!
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 03, 2013, 03:24 PM
Maybe this guy still doesn't know the world is round yet...
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 03, 2013, 10:45 PM
Shame that TUS didn't allowed the whole length for my topic title. It was: "No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as a "standard" one? Was it Komo?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Prankster on January 03, 2013, 11:02 PM
Shame that TUS didn't allowed the whole length for my topic title. It was: "No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as a "standard" one? Was it Komo?

No, that's the map with Eyjafjallajokull in the middle.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Korydex on January 04, 2013, 06:00 AM
make an example with "good" bng map please
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: darKz on January 04, 2013, 07:59 AM
Shame that TUS didn't allowed the whole length for my topic title. It was: "No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as a "standard" one? Was it Komo?

All I know is that these maps were introduced ages ago. I remember playing on them shortly after I first started playing, so that's 2002-2003. I also remember the BkM guys (mainly freezer and KiLL0r) making maps like these but not sure if the idea reaches even further back.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Sbaffo on January 04, 2013, 08:52 AM
i hate this map, you had an awesome idea.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 04, 2013, 09:43 AM
My maps were nothing like this anyway :O
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 04, 2013, 03:02 PM
My maps were nothing like this anyway :O
Oh sry, I must have been blind.. or stupid. Or both.
Or I'm just an idiot that does not understand the depths of this game.. Both logically and professionally.
Your maps were completely different, indeed: https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Komito/maps-choices/

And the world is not round, it's square!
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: rU` on January 04, 2013, 03:05 PM
My maps were nothing like this anyway :O
Oh sry, I must have been blind.. or stupid. Or both.
Or I'm just an idiot that does not understand the depths of this game.. Both logically and professionally.
Your maps were completely different, indeed: https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Komito/maps-choices/

And the world is not round, it's square!

LOL
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 04, 2013, 03:36 PM
I too dislike these kind of BnG maps.

Also the map choices page you linked Ramone is all of the played games, not necessarily means the host. Weren't komo's maps those volcano centered maps? I may be wrong though.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 04, 2013, 04:52 PM
U ain't wrong MI, funny thing is that even U remember Komo's volcanoes: https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Komito/maps-choices/?start=400
Must be that I'm disillusional, Komo's maps were not even similar to the example I've posted, they had a volcano in the middle.. Totally different thing.
Sry for the whole confusion.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 05, 2013, 04:51 AM
Oh sry, I must have been blind.. or stupid. Or both.

Oooo you got one right !

You were always one of the worst BnG players in b2b anyway, so it comes to no surprise you can't tell the difference between my maps and the map with the big red cross through it.

You were never a serious player.

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 05, 2013, 12:41 PM
Right! Your maps always had a big white cross through it, how could I mix it with the big red cross one? Must be blind. Damn.

(http://blogs.westword.com/showandtell/07%20your%20argument%20is%20invalid.jpg)
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: HHC on January 05, 2013, 12:48 PM
Agree, but can you give an example of a good map Ramone?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 05, 2013, 12:57 PM
Visit his maps profile (https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Ramone/maps/?type=BnG). Tons of bnG maps there ;)
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 05, 2013, 12:57 PM
Right! Your maps always had a big white cross through it, how could I mix it with the big red cross one? Must be blind. Damn.

You don't understand the differences do you?

I only really used maps like this in serious competitive games and ALL my maps were carefully created to be equally challenging/fair on both sides, that map you showed is 100% horizontal and NONE of my maps are 100% horizontal, my maps had the bit in the middle incase some people tried to shoot too low.

I never started using these maps anyway, it wasn't me who started the trend, it is the most popular map style for competitive League BnG games, and that has nothing to do with me.

And since I never saw you ever take 1v1 BnG seriously, it doesn't surprise me you would act like a dumbass as usual, so I forgive you.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: darKz on January 05, 2013, 03:46 PM
Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 05, 2013, 03:56 PM
Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.

Why is the "Anti-spam-brigade" spamming and trolling?

Why don't you set a better example ya pleb?

I'm allowed to act like a donut, you aint :P

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: HHC on January 05, 2013, 04:29 PM
Visit his maps profile (https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Ramone/maps/?type=BnG). Tons of bnG maps there ;)

hmm, that's just the female version of komo's volcano maps  :-[

*does not love bng*
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 05, 2013, 04:44 PM
Lol how true, our maps could make out Ramone :P
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 05, 2013, 10:30 PM
Agree, but can you give an example of a good map Ramone?

It's not about if a single map is good or not, it's that this kind of maps became sort of "standard" by time, and that's wrong. They are all the same with a tiny bit of difference.

Btw HHC, we've already talked about this in the other thread, I'll just link U there so I don't have to explain again why I think this kind of BnG maps sux: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/schemes/possibly-bng-change-17538/msg143060/#msg143060 (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/schemes/possibly-bng-change-17538/msg143060/#msg143060)

That thread was the last attempt to change smth about it, but as many other threads it ended up abandoned with a feeling of nausea to many of us because Komo got involved (again) and U know how it goes.. [/van signature]
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: darKz on January 06, 2013, 03:40 AM
Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.

Why is the "Anti-spam-brigade" spamming and trolling?

Why don't you set a better example ya pleb?

I'm allowed to act like a donut, you aint :P

I could've said "Komo why do you start ruining yet another thread?" as well, I just chose the other way of saying it. And I can still do or say whatever I want. :)
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 06, 2013, 06:15 AM
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Actually I do appreciate the effort. I too dislike those BnG maps, most of possible shots there are nades and they encourage notching.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 06, 2013, 11:33 AM
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Actually I do appreciate the effort. I too dislike those BnG maps, most of possible shots there are nades and they encourage notching.



These maps don't encourage notching, people making notching guides public is what encourages notching, most BnG players probably dislike the way you actually play BnG, throwing 4s nades instead of 3, repeating constantly etc... You don't see anyone making threads about it, with a big red cross through a map shaped like MonkeyIsland... Not that I mind, I actually respect the fact you are open and honest about playing the way you do before the start of a game, I actually really enjoyed playing against you, it's a different kind of challenge...

Anyone who really understands how to notch can notch on ANY kind of map, I actually find Ramones maps are easier to notch on because there are less hides, these maps are actually harder to notch on because they have harder hides, so if you have a good accurate shot and a variety of shots in mind you should be fine...

The only thing I can say you might agree on, these maps get a bit boring... Ramones maps are the most fun maps i've ever played on the guys a genius when it comes to making BnG maps for funners...

With or without notching, in League matches I just prefer maps with more hides and harder places to hit, it's more challenging and enjoyable for me and that's why I use the maps I use, this "standard" was passed down from the previous BnG players, I was taught "T17 map, delete top fill bottom, -forest" and gradually over time I made small changes to make for more hides to fit on the map.

I know this exact map Ramone uploaded is taking the piss a bit, but I know what he's getting at, and who cares, most people prefer these kind of maps for competitive BnG apparently so what's the big deal, no one forces anyone to play?

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 07, 2013, 01:41 AM
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Actually I do appreciate the effort. I too dislike those BnG maps, most of possible shots there are nades and they encourage notching.

Thanks mate! :)
So what do U say that we somehow forbid Komo to post in this topic and actually try to change smth about it?
No other way.
He'll just keep posting shitloads of bullshits as he has being the smartest person in the world [that doesn't sleep for 3 weeks, drinks 3 liters of vodka (and don't get drunk), reject pretty girls and never notch in BnG]..
Just watch him as he posts..
I'll just step aside and puke while he do it.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 07, 2013, 01:52 AM
Or forbid you from making a stupid thread like this in the 1st place?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: OrangE on January 07, 2013, 04:27 AM
b2b who?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: MonkeyIsland on January 07, 2013, 08:24 AM
What good is a discussion when you can't be civilized?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Husk on January 07, 2013, 09:58 AM
b2b who  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Alien on January 07, 2013, 10:20 AM
Scheme file: Kaos ;D

i don't know if this is a bad joke, but this map is neither a elite, bng nor a good kaos map ! huhuhu ???

what about this bad map anyway, just delete this trash. eh :O
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 07, 2013, 11:56 AM
What good is a discussion when you can't be civilized?

Sry mate, I'm just considering every thread in which Komo post (more than twice) a failed one, no use of it anymore.. So I just took a piss while it's there, I admit.
We'll talk about improving bng maps some other time. (again) :/


Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 07, 2013, 02:53 PM
Ramone what u on about ya radge???

You HAVE improved BnG maps in your own way, you got like 120 of them... ALOT of people love them, including me... 

But this kinda map, IS the best for competitive league BnG, it's been tried and tested for yeeeeears...

If someone doesn't like this kind of BnG map, then they should host and create their own kinda map.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: chakkman on January 07, 2013, 03:58 PM
What good is a discussion when you can't be civilized?

Sry mate, I'm just considering every thread in which Komo post (more than twice) a failed one, no use of it anymore.. So I just took a piss while it's there, I admit.
We'll talk about improving bng maps some other time. (again) :/
Mh, you said yourself that the topic title is "No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as a "standard" one? Was it Komo?" Can't be surprised then really when he answers on it. :P
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 07, 2013, 04:14 PM
He changed topic title after I posted.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 07, 2013, 04:45 PM
He changed topic title after I posted.
Naah U paranoid xD it's just that title was too long from the beginning, was shorten by tus itself, title was never changed.

Mh, you said yourself that the topic title is "No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as a "standard" one? Was it Komo?" Can't be surprised then really when he answers on it. :P
   
Ain't surprised at all! ;) As I've said, dunno why did I posted this issue (again) at the 1st place.. Really, from my point of view, keep on with monotonous -forest maps. In fact, my suggestion for tus bng would be to adopt 1 single map and just play on it, it's what's happening already but with a slight touch of some make-up, so it doesn't looks like it. Why would ppl bother and waste 20 secs to make a new map? No need.
Keep on, if Komo says it's the best - then it's the best, no need to discuss it.

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 07, 2013, 04:53 PM
It's just what people tend to use, with or without me, is that not true or something?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: chakkman on January 07, 2013, 04:54 PM
Well, there was a discussion about roper maps some time ago too. I don't really feel the need to bother, if both players enjoy playing on such a map, why not then.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on January 07, 2013, 06:11 PM
Right. There is really no need to discuss or maybe try to improve anything, follow the routine and let it go with the flow..

My call is for all open minded players to sabotage those kind of bng maps as much as they can, because they sux from the core of it's existence.
Nothing more, nothing less.  :)



Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on January 07, 2013, 06:46 PM
My call is for all open minded players to sabotage those kind of bng maps as much as they can, because they sux from the core of it's existence.
Nothing more, nothing less.  :)

Well, I am an open minded player, i'll try any new scheme/idea at least once, I don't always play on this type of map, any time anyone has ever asked for a diff map i've done it, except that one time with mm when I was in cFc.

Come up with some sketches and share them, host some Tournaments or summin i'll chip in :)
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on March 18, 2013, 10:23 PM
.. You were always one of the worst BnG players in b2b anyway, so it comes to no surprise you can't tell the difference between my maps and the map with the big red cross through it.

f@#! you.
The sentence that you've wrote here is retarded. And it's a lie.
You were always trying to twist everything to suit your own self and your own glory.. You're a selfish bastard.
Even your signature is a lie.

My call is for all open minded players to sabotage those kind of bng maps as much as they can, because they sux from the core of it's existence.
Nothing more, nothing less.  :)

Well, I am an open minded player, i'll try any new scheme/idea at least once, I don't always play on this type of map, any time anyone has ever asked for a diff map i've done it, except that one time with mm when I was in cFc.

Come up with some sketches and share them, host some Tournaments or summin i'll chip in :)

You are full of shit.
 :)

p.s. excuse my french.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Maciej on March 18, 2013, 10:55 PM
And I like this kind of maps, they are easy to make with lots of hides for both sides, fair enough.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: TheKomodo on March 19, 2013, 08:01 AM
Lol Ramone, of course that sentence where I talk about b2b is a lie, I just wanted to get to you cuz you were talking sh*t to me...

However, I stand by my sentence regarding myself as open minded, you have no idea, and you never will.

Anyway, why reply to this now? Wasn't this like last year or something?
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: MonkeyIsland on March 19, 2013, 08:15 AM
Ramone you are warned for your "french" language.
Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Ramone on March 19, 2013, 11:48 AM
Ye all fine, I just came home drunk and run across that topic somehow and reacted the way I shouldn't. I wonder that Komos bs from past still affects me and make me react the way I did.. Guess that I go sentimental when drunk.. ;x

Sry for my "french" MI, I deserve the warning and fully accept it.

Title: Re: Map #9985, No, no, this ain't a good BnG map! dunno who has put this kind of a map as by Ramone
Post by: Sbaffo on March 19, 2013, 01:29 PM
6 members and about 22 guests have downloaded this map. LOL are you using it for play mole? xD