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Title: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on October 29, 2009, 02:42 AM
I dont know much about keyboards but im wanting to buy a new one now and so have done a little bit of research.

Ive decided to go for either the Razer Lycosa or the Razor Tarantula.
I like the fact that the keys are more flat like laptop keys on these kbs, unlike the G15.

Im more drawn to the Lycosa because its much smaller than the Tarantula and has rubber keys unlike the usual plastic ones.

Thing is, ive heard that the Lycosa doesnt have key lock protection (antighosting) on all of the keys, only on wasd. The only game ill be playing with it is worms so I dont want to have any keylock!

Do any of you own these keyboards? Some feedback would be appreciated, thanks.

+ What keyboard do you use? How is it for you?
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 29, 2009, 05:33 AM
I use G11 and I love it. Everything that I need :)

I remember Unique told me a lot about Razor. You can wait for his reply at least :)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on October 29, 2009, 05:51 AM
g15, was a waste of money
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on October 29, 2009, 09:03 AM
I use G15 and I would want to sleep with it every night, I love it so much. It is just perfect.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on October 29, 2009, 03:46 PM
XDD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Free on October 29, 2009, 06:46 PM
I've had G11, G15 and currently I'm using Tarantula.

Tarantula owns G-series hands down, only minus is not having full backlight on it, just on the macro keys. It has definately faster response than G-series have, I don't fully like the arrow keys on Tarantula but you get used to them.

I've been looking into Lycosa recently, since it's supposed to have even more low-profile keys than Tarantula have, rubber keys and full backlight but yeah, it doesn't have full anti-ghosting, but I haven't tried it so if you get keylock when roping.

Get Tarantula, it's a really good keyboard.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on October 29, 2009, 11:58 PM
I want to get the Lycosa for the reasons you stated, the tarantula I think is a bit too big for me.

Ive looked on the web but I still cant find a definitive answer about the keylock.

On some reviews it says that it hasn't got antighosting on all of the keys, it says it has them around the wasd cluster only although Im not sure if you can or cannot avoid keylock anywhere else... its annoying!

I dont understand why its so hard to get rid of keylock.. I mean my old crap compaq one didnt have any keylock... and especially for a "gaming" keyboard... why is it so hard to not have keylock on all the keys... isnt this ESSENTIAL for a gaming keyboard!??

Its frustrating cos I just wanna order one right now, the only thing thats stopping me is the issue of keylock on the Lycosa... man its annyoing not being able to know for sure if it will be an issue or not!

ah looks like i found my answer...

"Cons: if you're not a WASD player, BE AWARE you cannot use any combination of 2 arrow keys, and kp_0 (kp_ins) at the same time. for me this means i cant straif forward while crouched...... this is not a gaming keyboard, its a WASD player specific gaming keyboard, and its certainly not worth this much when 10$ boards work LIKE KEYBOARDS ARE SUPOSED TO WORK."

Looks like ill be getting a tarantula then
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on October 30, 2009, 01:03 AM
Ok done, bought a tarantula, it better be worth it free!
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: MonkeyIsland on October 30, 2009, 04:52 AM
Congrats on your new keyboard ^^
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on October 31, 2009, 12:30 AM
Now i have shitty kb with keylock and all keys doesnt work anymore.. then i tried my friend's Microsoft SideWinder X6 and now im gonna buy it.  Keys works awesome for roping and i didnt get keylock. Look for it too;)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on October 31, 2009, 07:53 PM
Microsoft... I have enough of that. :D
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on November 06, 2009, 09:08 PM
been using my tarantula for one day now, and I love it!

The keys really respond well when roping, I feel I have much better arrow control now, although it'll take alot more time to fully adjust to the new interface.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 06, 2009, 09:14 PM
cool! its razer tarantula? i should buy one
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: KinslayeR on November 07, 2009, 10:30 AM
if u have enough money and u buy kb in thinking about worms, BUY RAZER TARANTULA... there is no better keyboard, it is the best one, for roping too. It works great with winamp also, and it is only one keyboard where u can press like 8 keys or more and all keys are working, no keylock and other shits.. And one of the most important thing about this keyboard, it has 1ms time reaction, other keyboards has 5 ms, so for roping it is just dream.. how many times u press space and it worked a bit later as u pressed it or it did not work? Unfortunatelly i dont have tarantula anymore but i must say it is the best keyboard on all world. Maybe it dont have stupid lcd like in g15, but what then ? why the hell is need stupid small lcd in keaybord..  g15 is MUCH worse than razer and it is same moneys, so if u think g15/razer  take razer!
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on November 07, 2009, 10:41 AM
I have G15 and KinslayeR is right about one thing, I don't really use that LCD screen, sometimes, when I am playing I watch the clock on it and I also see if I get emails... No wait, then I do use it's functionality after all. :D
By the way, I cannot imagine anyone sensing 4ms difference. It is almost impossible to hit faster then 0.1 sec with your fingers, 4ms is just so fast one cannot sense it.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: MonkeyIsland on November 07, 2009, 10:53 AM
I don't think worms can receive rope strokes less than 0.030 or 0.040 second. (30 or 40 ms)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 07, 2009, 11:58 AM
well, ya i bought g15 for wa and i stll dnt enjoey this kb.. im gonna put this shit on ebay, then i new razer for me :)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: MonkeyIsland on November 07, 2009, 12:00 PM
I enjoy my G11 mostly for coding. It has 18*3 G keys. I've never seen these many keys in any other keyboards.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 07, 2009, 03:37 PM
anyone knows whats the diferent of:
razer tarantula, arctosa, Lycosa. if the fast reaction is the same in both, that mean they are all the same for worms. i would by lycosa.  http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards

NAiL whats urs? im realy about buy a razer, since freeboy said that pwns his G series.. and thats true, G sould be realy good for wow, cs, etc.. but i tap in my g15 and i tap in a classic logitech (14€) its complettly the same...
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Rok on November 07, 2009, 04:49 PM
I don't think worms can receive rope strokes less than 0.030 or 0.040 ms.

The game runs at 50 frames per second, that means 0.02 seconds for 1 frame. That basically means you could squeeze 50 effective taps in 1 seconds of gameplay, theoreticaly. :) So 1 out of 2 taps less than 0.02 seconds apart doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on November 07, 2009, 09:16 PM
NAiL whats urs? im realy about buy a razer, since freeboy said that pwns his G series.. and thats true, G sould be realy good for wow, cs, etc.. but i tap in my g15 and i tap in a classic logitech (14€) its complettly the same...

lol beer did you not read my first post?

The arcosta is not in the same league as the tarantula or the lyosta. Get a tarantula m8!

I prefer it now becasue i dont wanna have all the light lit up, I dont play in the dark. You cant see the keys too well on the lycosta when they arnt lit up.

The tarantula feels really nice but the arrows are more left and down than on a normal kb so u gotta get used to the new position xD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 07, 2009, 09:27 PM
i see! ya, if my roomate buy my g15 for 60€ i buy tarantula this week.. lets see xD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on November 07, 2009, 09:38 PM
i have tarantula. It works more than 2 years
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on November 07, 2009, 09:54 PM
I only have a dog, no tarantula, my parents don't like spiders.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 07, 2009, 10:32 PM
I only have a dog, no tarantula, my parents don't like spiders.
limao :D
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on November 08, 2009, 12:54 AM
mmm, maybe im gonna buy tarantula then:P
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 08, 2009, 02:55 AM
http://www.dansdata.com/images/clicky/ballboard1024.jpg
thedoggs kb
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on November 08, 2009, 08:46 AM
http://www.dansdata.com/images/clicky/ballboard1024.jpg
thedoggs kb
huahua does he fr with that trackball?XDDD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on November 08, 2009, 09:08 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/1681678700_b4165a208b.jpg
beer's
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 08, 2009, 02:19 PM
ray sometimes i dunno what are u doing here.. i post his kb cose his kb is like that.. it wasnt a joke
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on November 08, 2009, 02:24 PM
Man I was kidding! You act like I was always spamming or shit... Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 08, 2009, 02:47 PM
uhauha XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD+1
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Crazy on November 12, 2009, 03:55 AM
I badly need a kb (with usb input) that is already <in-roped> and well used, anyone interested in selling me one?  :-[
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 12, 2009, 04:04 AM
g15 noyway
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: KinslayeR on November 12, 2009, 06:30 PM
razer lycosa HAS A KEYLOCK, they dont give this info nowhere but it has, only 2 good things from razer are tarantula and mouse deathadder.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Free on November 13, 2009, 04:49 AM
Kinslayer, they do say that Anti-Ghosting is only on WASD keys on Lycosa.

Razer has many good products, what you're talking about?
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 13, 2009, 01:00 PM
ae free
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on November 13, 2009, 10:48 PM
beer I dont understand why you havent responded... crazy wants to buy a used kb... you want to sell your g15.... communication!!!???
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Ray on November 13, 2009, 11:22 PM
Shipping it costs more than a totally new one in a shop.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 14, 2009, 01:16 AM
sure 60€ for my g15 v2 Orange. i have this since summer (3 month) its kinda new..
nothing is wrong with kb, just dnt feel confortable playing ropes with it.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on November 17, 2009, 10:43 PM
got tarantula, cant see these diferences ;o
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Dub-c on December 12, 2009, 01:49 AM
Nevermind
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on December 18, 2009, 02:58 AM
(http://g.imagehost.org/t/0315/dgf.jpg) (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0315/dgf) XDDDDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Random00 on December 18, 2009, 11:24 AM
no beer on your desk, sux. :O
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on December 18, 2009, 02:01 PM
no beer on your desk, sux. :O
??
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Random00 on December 18, 2009, 03:45 PM
nevermind.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on December 18, 2009, 06:57 PM
only for pros:
(http://i.imagehost.org/t/0924/Kuva023.jpg) (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0924/Kuva023)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Free on December 19, 2009, 09:16 AM
no beer on your desk, sux. :O
??

Cos "beer" but no beer bottles.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Maciej on December 21, 2009, 02:28 PM
kinda old thread, but I haven't seen it before. Well, I use logitech g15 v2 (red/orange one) and I like it. About terantula I read that it has lower keys then standard kbs, and I like feeling the press. hmm.. what I can say about g15, it has got soft keys, they are going down really easy and fast, so my tap became for the real faster. One thing I don't like is keylock, if u press 3 ARROWS at once. But it's just my still bad timing. For worms and roping it's really good kb IMO, but I have never tried tarantula so I can't compare them, what I'd like  :) n pic beer, I wish I had those both kbs too some day

btw does tarantula have keylock if u press 3 ARROWS at once?
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on December 21, 2009, 04:00 PM
taran is nice maciej, did you sell your taran yet beer?
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on December 21, 2009, 04:04 PM
eya i sent it back after 1 days as i said. but i have to say, tarauntula is most beautiful and comfortable kb i ever seen. was just lazy to learn in new kb, diferent layout etc. but still fuking nice kb
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: AduN on December 30, 2009, 07:31 AM
only for pros:
(http://i.imagehost.org/t/0924/Kuva023.jpg) (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0924/Kuva023)


LOL
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Madden on January 06, 2010, 02:48 PM
I hear Razer are making an addon for that port at the top of the keyboard, specifically for wormers, ropers in fact!

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg10/mrmrmadden/f@#!INGCHUTEGODDAMMITARGRHRKER.jpg)


How are people finding that keyboard for finger rolling? If you don't fr, can you at least tell me how good you think it would be?  :P
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Free on January 06, 2010, 03:04 PM
FUKKIN AMAZING!
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NAiL on January 06, 2010, 07:02 PM
hahahaha madden thats great! Im missing f8 alot more now seeing as the F keys are smaller xD

I dont fr, but when I do it its very responsive, theres no difference between fring and "normal" tapping in terms of how "good" a keyboard is for it.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on January 06, 2010, 07:06 PM
ae
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on January 06, 2010, 07:59 PM
WOMGW thats best idea in a years man!:D
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on January 06, 2010, 09:25 PM
you can push it via head :p
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on January 07, 2010, 10:21 PM
(http://f.imagehost.org/t/0152/Kuva026.jpg) (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0152/Kuva026)


jajajahua i got it!

i have roped mayb 2-3h with it now. response time feels very dämn nice, no missed spaces anymore, 2 spaces works very good for fr. but, arrow keys feel so weird but i hope i get used them soon. couldnt even bungee with them:((
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on January 07, 2010, 11:23 PM
(http://f.imagehost.org/t/0152/Kuva026.jpg) (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0152/Kuva026)


jajajahua i got it!

i have roped mayb 2-3h with it now. response time feels very dämn nice, no missed spaces anymore, 2 spaces works very good for fr. but, arrow keys feel so weird but i hope i get used them soon. couldnt even bungee with them:((

lol u still use CRT monitor? :OOOOOO
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on January 07, 2010, 11:46 PM
pr CE isnt rish as Russian Federation. XD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on January 08, 2010, 12:17 AM
pr CE isnt rish as Russian Federation. XD
ae! Last money were wasted for russian gas. XD
Nevertheless i'd prefer to buy new monitor instead of kb. Iiyama has cheap good ones.
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on January 08, 2010, 05:18 AM
lol pr thats the pro monitor!

cant see reason why i should waste my moneys and buy new monitor, just cuz its cool?xddd
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Maciej on January 08, 2010, 07:09 AM
hahahahahaha watch my vid pr, I use old monitor too, guess even older than NC's one! xD well, I'm gonna buy better one, but 4:3 for sure! I can't play worms using 16:9 ;S screen is weird.
btw nice kb NC, hope u beat me now! xD ha! let's meet on wn! ;P
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Free on January 08, 2010, 07:52 AM
Yee you will get used to arrows NC, I mean look at meh; bängbung pr0. ;D
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: NinjaCamel on January 08, 2010, 12:18 PM
Oi i good then:D and yea maciej no change for u before u get razor too! naaa dont buy flat screen, picture tube screen ftw
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: pr on January 08, 2010, 12:58 PM
Oi i good then:D and yea maciej no change for u before u get razor too! naaa dont buy flat screen, picture tube screen ftw

you hurt your eyes with CRT...
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: flex on December 18, 2010, 02:41 PM
Bump


Does anyone know a good keyboard for 40€, with no keylock at all?
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: franz on December 18, 2010, 03:05 PM
Bump


Does anyone know a good keyboard for 40€, with no keylock at all?

7.5€/10$  Dell SK-8110
(http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/9d/24/PS2_BLACK_KEYBOARD_DELL_SK_8110-resized200.jpg)

might not be easy to find though because they now use SK-8135 for everything, and 'that' has keylock
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: angus on December 18, 2010, 03:13 PM
50€ (http://static.scan.co.uk/Images/Products/919028-a.jpg)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: flex on December 18, 2010, 03:50 PM
I did some search before and I came across the Razer arctosa but it says it has anti-ghosting only around the WASD keys. You have it?

Thanks Franz but anyway it's not on sale apprently, and is'nt it cheap?


Before anyone post it I tried the Mircrosoft Sidewinder x4 and it's a piece of shit

Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: angus on December 18, 2010, 04:11 PM
I dunno what is anti-ghosting lol


or Buy a FLEXible kb hohoho
(http://pic.tradeage.com/109-tasti-pieghevole-flessibile-mini-usb-keyboard-black-silicon-118038.jpeg?w=160)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: flex on December 18, 2010, 04:20 PM
Ghosting = Keylock

And lolz
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on December 18, 2010, 04:20 PM
dude, angus, XD http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what%27s+anti-ghosting+%20+%20 XD
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Dub-c on December 18, 2010, 06:57 PM
My brother has the artossa or w/e its called and it definitely has key lock
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: Guaton on December 18, 2010, 07:07 PM
dude, angus, XD http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what%27s+anti-ghosting+%20+%20 XD


AHAHHHAAAHA  DXDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  i didnt know about that page XDD!!!!! im gonna f@#!ing use it everytime someone ask me for something
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: beer on December 18, 2010, 07:21 PM
XDDD u should say, thanks my favort liquid ::)
Title: Re: New Keyboard
Post by: nino on December 18, 2010, 09:09 PM
i use g15, and i like it, thought would help me to rope better and it did, but xDDD suck in roper FTW!