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Title: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 08, 2018, 04:24 PM
All my worms armageddon life im playing with 1 space. Remapped. But i was trying to fr a lot of times, switched a lot of kbs, but never understood how to fr with 2 spaces. I just can't do it. When i remap 2 spaces with wkRemapKeys.dll, it is slow and impossible to tap. What is the secret? How barman, sbaffo, statik, aladdin do it?


for some reason, when i remap keys to "g, b, h, n" keys, my taps goes faster, somebody knows why? but there became keylocks.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: XanKriegor on November 08, 2018, 04:55 PM
As far as i understand, FR works when you press second Space and the rope shots, WHILE first Space is held pressed.  I remember some guy, maybe Runaway, made a big video to proof he ropes legit. At one point he has been pressing a Space while other Space was held down, and rope DID NOT shot. I guess this was hes proof.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 08, 2018, 05:26 PM
As far as i understand, FR works when you press second Space and the rope shots, WHILE first Space is held pressed.
no, not legit fr works this way. im talking about legit now.




and i remember runaway video, it was indeed legit but i had some questions
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: XanKriegor on November 08, 2018, 05:35 PM
All i can say is this - this tecnique requires mastering. I think i have tried 2 spaces, i quit it after 3,5 seconds of attempts xD
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Sensei on November 08, 2018, 05:38 PM
As far as i understand, FR works when you press second Space and the rope shots, WHILE first Space is held pressed.  I remember some guy, maybe Runaway, made a big video to proof he ropes legit. At one point he has been pressing a Space while other Space was held down, and rope DID NOT shot. I guess this was hes proof.

Dude. Runaway made that video to prove us he's legit (walrus or me requested it), but then CS or DC just appeared in thread to post he's a cheater after all. Hahaha. That guy went through all of that "video proof" charade, just to get put where he belongs - deep bottom.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: XanKriegor on November 08, 2018, 06:00 PM
Lets say cheating have some levels, from harmless NoWater module to that shit when you can shoot rope like crazy, and all that would be called same name - cheating. No one ever bothered to show us what level of cheating did Exzo use when she was called a cheater. They just said -  thats cheating. But what kind of cheating it was? Everything should be transparent so we all could assess and decide for ourrselves, was it minor cheating or something really serious. World isnt black and white, there is a lot of shades of gray in between.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: h3oCharles on November 08, 2018, 06:44 PM
and then some cheaters we call not human
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Csongi on November 08, 2018, 07:36 PM
As far as i understand, FR works when you press second Space and the rope shots, WHILE first Space is held pressed.

Sorry mate..that's utter BS. xDD

You never keep both spaces pressed at once.
FR. doesn't really give you an advantage (been doing it for a long time)..it just depends on what roping style do u prefer.
For example there was a guy called m0nk..he was fr-ing with 3 spaces xdd

It's all about talent 'n timing.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 08, 2018, 07:39 PM
back to my question. what is the secret? how u, csongi, for example, doing it?
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Sbaffo on November 08, 2018, 08:47 PM
I trained with pussy
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Kradie on November 08, 2018, 10:07 PM
I use spacebar and arrow to rope, in other words I use the default keyboard controls for WA.
Personally, I don't always rely on fast taps to rope good. In certain situation it can be beneficial, typical in RR. I try focus on safe roping with combination of extension and arrow techniques. Of course there are times when I do tap fast, normally during acceleration, in WxW e.g.
I used plastic cheap keyboards before, even wireless ones. Ever since I got hold of a mechanical keyboard, my roping got more consistent and better. Although, this is just my experience, many people rope even better than me without mech keyboards.

Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: XanKriegor on November 09, 2018, 05:20 AM
Csongi, im not a roper, so i can be delusional/misinformed xD
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: TheKomodo on November 09, 2018, 12:45 PM
Finger roll is not a talent, it's a skill, some people can be a little more talented at it sure, but it's a skill that you train ;)
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: TheWalrus on November 09, 2018, 05:55 PM
It depends, I would say most people are pretty quick with one space, but fingerroll is probably really good for people with naturally slow taps, as using 2 keys is far easier than depressing one key twice.  I feel like if I could fingerroll i would be better at the close to ceiling taps that I sometimes fail because my hands aren't fast enough.  Its far too hard to learn for just that though. 

Objectively it really doesn't make you a better roper but is an improvement on traditional roping methods if you don't have good dexterity.

Honestly I'd love to see more people rope, I feel like almost everyone does it differently or has their own style.  I use my middle-ring-pinkie fingers to tap space and I rope crosshand, its pretty strange, but there is quite a few ways to fingerroll as well
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Tomi on November 09, 2018, 09:04 PM
Search for two keys close to each other which don't have keylocks and are convenient.
One finger shots the rope, the other releases it when you hear the sound that it attached to the wall.
You should start on a wxw or a "speed race" map really slowly. Just practice it really slowly and then change back maybe to one space that you are used to, not to get bored.
After about a month it is possible to go quite safe with it, and about 3-4 months you can reach the same speed as one space you had.
The advantages are that you can do the maximum speed that you can achive with one finger much longer, because neither your fingers, nor your brain gets tired so fast, since you will kind of halve (1/2) the moves of your fingers. And later maybe you can be even faster and still safe.
If you do it too fast that won't work, you mut to find the right tempo, start slowly and get faster.
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 12, 2018, 02:48 PM
Search for two keys close to each other which don't have keylocks and are convenient.
One finger shots the rope, the other releases it when you hear the sound that it attached to the wall.
You should start on a wxw or a "speed race" map really slowly. Just practice it really slowly and then change back maybe to one space that you are used to, not to get bored.
After about a month it is possible to go quite safe with it, and about 3-4 months you can reach the same speed as one space you had.
The advantages are that you can do the maximum speed that you can achive with one finger much longer, because neither your fingers, nor your brain gets tired so fast, since you will kind of halve (1/2) the moves of your fingers. And later maybe you can be even faster and still safe.
If you do it too fast that won't work, you mut to find the right tempo, start slowly and get faster.
thanks for response tomi. if i will play, for example, in online games with 1 space, and when wanna learn fr i go offline and practice there, will I improve my fr, if i will switching everytime from 1 space to fr, and back? sorry, mb, for the stupid question
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: TheWalrus on November 12, 2018, 04:42 PM
Search for two keys close to each other which don't have keylocks and are convenient.
One finger shots the rope, the other releases it when you hear the sound that it attached to the wall.
You should start on a wxw or a "speed race" map really slowly. Just practice it really slowly and then change back maybe to one space that you are used to, not to get bored.
After about a month it is possible to go quite safe with it, and about 3-4 months you can reach the same speed as one space you had.
The advantages are that you can do the maximum speed that you can achive with one finger much longer, because neither your fingers, nor your brain gets tired so fast, since you will kind of halve (1/2) the moves of your fingers. And later maybe you can be even faster and still safe.
If you do it too fast that won't work, you mut to find the right tempo, start slowly and get faster.
thanks for response tomi. if i will play, for example, in online games with 1 space, and when wanna learn fr i go offline and practice there, will I improve my fr, if i will switching everytime from 1 space to fr, and back? sorry, mb, for the stupid question
Switching back and forth will confuse your muscle memory and make it longer to learn
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Csongi on November 12, 2018, 06:32 PM
You can still try to alternate and use both techniques simultaneously like Dulek does. 
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: TheWalrus on November 12, 2018, 06:49 PM
You can still try to alternate and use both techniques simultaneously like Dulek does.
Good advice.

Asbest, while you are at it you should get a foot pedal for spacebar as well, you could be the first to use 3 techniques
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Csongi on November 12, 2018, 07:40 PM
You can still try to alternate and use both techniques simultaneously like Dulek does.
Good advice.

Asbest, while you are at it you should get a foot pedal for spacebar as well, you could be the first to use 3 techniques

lol..that was funny af xDDD
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 12, 2018, 08:39 PM
thanks for your responses guys. even walrus
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 13, 2018, 01:42 PM
You can still try to alternate and use both techniques simultaneously like Dulek does.
switching kbs also make learning fr more longer? or no?
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: nino on November 13, 2018, 02:57 PM
Who do you want to fool here? u r xspeed king!

Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Asbest on November 13, 2018, 04:06 PM
Who do you want to fool here? u r xspeed king!
go back to brazilian jungle
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: nino on November 13, 2018, 04:22 PM
Who do you want to fool here? u r xspeed king!
go back to brazilian jungle

I never left the jungle! theres where monkeys lives! puto!
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Aladdin on November 14, 2018, 02:08 PM
besides my two space I usually use my penis as the last space 3 8)
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Mega`Adnan on November 14, 2018, 02:21 PM
I use thumb or forefinger for roping, is this good sign or bad?
Title: Re: What secret of FingerRolling ( 2 spaces )?
Post by: Csongi on November 14, 2018, 03:39 PM
You can still try to alternate and use both techniques simultaneously like Dulek does.
switching kbs also make learning fr more longer? or no?

In case of a KB. switch it's normal to need some time to adjust.

I use thumb or forefinger for roping, is this good sign or bad?

Don't know many ropers (or at least I don't remember) who rope with their thumb.
Unique was one of them tho' and he was one hell of a roper ;d
Fore/index finger it's the most common way.