- No going on the roof. If a player goes on the roof the game either needs to be retarted or voidthat made me laugh :)
A: U can't... once upon a time it was considered as a cheap and lame thing... It was not allowed, so I'd keep it that way... tho I personally don't care, it's not 'big deal' thing anyway...
What is so funny ropa?
No one is "reinventing" anything, these are all old rules that was already accepted among players... if u disagree tell us your opinion?
oh, I forgot u are here only to provoke ppl...
Sad.
Q: Can I notch all the time?
A: U can't... once upon a time it was considered as a cheap and lame thing... It was not allowed, so I'd keep it that way... tho I personally don't care, it's not 'big deal' thing anyway...
I KNOW it has never been successfully prohibited and I KNOW that the debate about it has been going on for ages.
(...)
Anyway, I agree with you. Notching should be allowed
Finally Monkey, thank you.+1 i was wondering why it was so long ^^
how about adjusting the bng rules a bit? would be nice to have a rule that disallows repeating the last shot, kinda annoys me in most bng games ;)WookA, GreeN, any1 else?
It shows the player stupidness to stay in the same place to let his enemy take adventure of that and repeat his shot.
You can invent a new scheme "BnG style" or something, If you care to play "Beautiful".
Plus I think it would make a lot of fight for if a shot is repeat or not.
Setting that reaim each turn has something to do with this too. and who is to say that a shot is repeated?
I wouldn't get into discussion why rope knock is forbidden in elite, but it's logical that ppl wanted to get the game on 'higher level' with that rule, that's why I took it as an example...
who the f@#! disallowed 5sec sitters in elite?? lmao..it's allowed
"I don't like the rules for scheme A because I've got hundreds of reasons why they shouldn't be like that, mostly prestige and honor, cheapness etc etc. If you compare it to scheme B you'll see analogies.."
"Stupid comparision LOL"
lol NAiL, here you think you've kinda owned Ramone and crushed all his theories but in fact you didn't even get to his point..
(Which is BnG obviously)
about rknocking in elite:
i rly dunno why it is disallowed. i cant find any reason. Imo knocks add more tactics in gameplay.
e.g. player knocked enemy worm with bungee for bow shot and sent him to mine. I find this as NICE JOB and not like OMG FCKING LUCKER.
i hate when scheme has a lot of rules. scheme rules had to be simple.
there is always one extra game: "who knows scheme better".
i rly hate bng cuz the only situation i can enjoy it is where my opponent is not cheap.
cheap for me: ...4 sec fullpower...
IMO some schemes must be left untouched...
+ About intermediate, I really think that it should be obligatorty to play best of 3 games (bo3), and report 1 win (or maybe 2).yep, intermediate scheme should remain untouched as the others...and report should be 1 win when you win bo2.
You cannot play a game of inter with only 1 round, it won't be fair. This is because alot of the inter strategy and gameplay is determined by the deployment of the worms at the start of the round. Seeing as only 1 round will be played, the player who starts first will have an obvious advantage. When played bo3, each player has a chance to start first and so it reduces the luck varuant hugely.
And to all those people who say inter is a noob scheme and its all luck or whatever, go play some of the NNN pros and see if you can beat them!
Inter is as skillful as any other scheme on wa.
You can't really say one scheme requires more skill than another anyway.
Yes shopper is easy to learn, but if two pros played a game would you not still have an exciting match on your hands...
4sec fp can be not cheap. but in most cases it is. when player can throw 3 sec, use lg 4,5 sec but throws 4sec fp constantly and maybe uses landscape marks IT IS FKN LAME.
add:?
- It is not allowed to repeat the same shot after you hit the opponent, until you hit again with different shot (at least). The penalty for hitting your opponent twice in a row with same shot is a Grenade or Bazooka to and from yourself in an attempt to cause the same damage you previously inflicted.
- BnG map must have default width size (1920 pix), not more and not less.
and I would
change:
- Piling is not allowed. Placing/teleporting a worm within a quarter of the maps width to your opponent is also forbidden. Teleport/move to another position.
with:
- Piling is not allowed. The distance between yours and opponents worms must not be less than:
-if 1vs1 - 1/2 (half) of a map width
-if 2vs2 - 1/3 (third) of a map width
-if 3vs3 - 1/4 (quarter) of a map width
Teleport/move to another position.
I don't see a big difference if someone throws 4 sec fp nades constantly - or a 5 sec lg constantly. It's still a repeated shot.well.
imo intermediate bo3 does not suit this league.sorry but imo you rather delete intermediate from the supported schemes of the classic league then. it has always been played bo3. changing that would be like changing elite scheme to 45 second turn time. ask a good normal player (unlike me) and he ll say that changing that is a shit. and the game time is not a reason to have inter bo1 too, every single bng can last 1 hour.
BECAUSE:
3 inter matches can last more than 1 hour.
It's pretty much for ONE game.
Many people say that bo1 sux.
Yeah, it's worse than bo3. But if bo3 it should be out of this league.
I see some exits of this situation:
1. Make hard maps. Not with easy plops, like girders with tons of worms. Cavern hard maps are too darksidy but they are pretty ok for bo1.
2. I dunno how but maybe if it is played bo3, the total points are count differently. Not as one game played. Maybe we should count all games separately.
+ About intermediate, I really think that it should be obligatorty to play best of 3 games (bo3), and report 1 win (or maybe 2).yep, intermediate scheme should remain untouched as the others...and report should be 1 win when you win bo2.
You cannot play a game of inter with only 1 round, it won't be fair. This is because alot of the inter strategy and gameplay is determined by the deployment of the worms at the start of the round. Seeing as only 1 round will be played, the player who starts first will have an obvious advantage. When played bo3, each player has a chance to start first and so it reduces the luck varuant hugely.
And to all those people who say inter is a noob scheme and its all luck or whatever, go play some of the NNN pros and see if you can beat them!
Inter is as skillful as any other scheme on wa.
You can't really say one scheme requires more skill than another anyway.
Yes shopper is easy to learn, but if two pros played a game would you not still have an exciting match on your hands...
I don't see a big difference if someone throws 4 sec fp nades constantly - or a 5 sec lg constantly. It's still a repeated shot.well.
4 sec fp : u change only aim
5 sec lg : u change aim and power
see the difference?
I don't see a big difference
cheap for me: repeat shots...
rofl, why after all my posts theres a Doublenerd post? I told ya i'm hetero man :)
That's all, its the scheme with more rules, thats why lot of ppl thinks BnG is boring, and i'm agree, i love BnG but sometimes its so boring.
BnG is a 100% skill game like roperace, no thinking or such involved, thats why there will always be ppl loving it and some ppl hating it i guess. i used to like bng v much but then i realized that theres other way more exciting schemes :D (not that i hate bng now, but its pretty ordinary to me...like playing counterstrike or so :P) but thats just my opinion, everything to its own or however the saying is :)
Why in elite would you never say oooh COW... COW u threw a 5 sec sitter man, U COULDA DONE A 3 SEC NADE WHY ARE U SOOO LAAAME.
When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself?
This argument is about esthetic shots in BnG NAiL, I can perfectly understand why there are rules for BnG and why people call you cheap if you break them. :)
And if you're honest BnG looks much better with grenades that explode in mid-air rather than with sitters.
When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself?
Object in every game is to win, but for example why won't you shoot from offside in football..? Cause there are rules to every game that makes it harder but more enjoyable to play.
yes of course they do, but a league game should be about playing TO WIN. Not about trying to do a different shot every time and making the shot harder than it has to be.hm the more i think about your points the more they make sense to me^^
If you are playing a game for fun, to practise different shots and skills, of course your not gonna want to do "easy" shots...
Why in an elite that you are playing TO WIN would you make a shot or turn harder than it has to be purely to make it look better?
BnG would be so much more appealing to players without all the rules about "cheap" play... you can play ANY scheme "cheap"... you are trying to win man!
Put infinite teles so that you make a better hide for yourslelf, rather than forcing your opponant to hit you with harder than they have to be shots simply because your down in a hole and don't have any teles left!!! madness!!!!
With that logic: "it's a league game, who cares about skilled shot, you are trying to win man!!!" you can also allow player to take the shortcut over the roof in RR, cause "it's a league game, who cares about skills in RR, you want to win man!!!"
With that logic: "it's a league game, who cares about skilled shot, you are trying to win man!!!" you can also allow player to take the shortcut over the roof in RR, cause "it's a league game, who cares about skills in RR, you want to win man!!!"
Ramone you can't use comparisons like this...
Everyone knows you cannot take shortcuts in rr because there is no such thing as a shortcut... its got nothing to do with being "cheap", its about playing the map how it should be played. Its got nothing to do with rules, its just common sense.
But it's not a bad Idea, is it?
If we make a wiki, we should put some replays too (Just an Idea)
i think we should ban bigbilly for spammin forumsI disagree sir