Classic schemes have been updated. Here are some modifications:
Hysteria:
- LG added
Team17:
- Girders are limited to 7
WxW:
- Removed `lucky` weapons in crates. This scheme is similar to CBC scheme now.
Don't forget to use proper schemes!
You can download TUS classic Scheme pack HERE (https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/TUSclassic.rar)
what the hell, girders limited? >:( pr wtf?
I know that t17 can be a pain when ppl keep blocking you all the time, but unlimited girders is the only thing that kinda ballances the game when you get raped by crates (or opponent gets lucky, whatever you wanna call it). FB wanted to limit the girders once, afaik it didn't work out...
About wxw, i see that shotgun has crate probability set to 246 when other weps have 1 or 3? ???
I guess axe and minigun are those lucky weapons that you talk about and therefore you removed them, fine - but why there's no homing missile?
Quote from: Rok on June 24, 2009, 07:53 AM
I know that t17 can be a pain when ppl keep blocking you all the time,
Like who ? :D
Quote from: darkmaul on June 24, 2009, 08:33 AM
Quote from: Rok on June 24, 2009, 07:53 AM
I know that t17 can be a pain when ppl keep blocking you all the time,
Like who ? :D
You? ::)
Good job.
Quote from: Xray99 on June 24, 2009, 05:33 PM
Good job.
thanks
@Rok
well, if u have nothing but girders you can only girder... and try to draw. Everyone knows that draws sux in team17... cuz always "no time for rm" etc.
246 shotguns cuz sg king
Quote from: pr on June 24, 2009, 06:34 PM
well, if u have nothing but girders you can only girder... and try to draw. Everyone knows that draws sux in team17... cuz always "no time for rm" etc.
That's you personal grudge.
Quote from: pr on June 24, 2009, 06:34 PM
246 shotguns cuz sg king
Thanks for explanation, really apreciated. ???
New schemes look better. Limited girds ftw.
cbc wxw scheme was the best wxw scheme ever and idc if there are 266 shotguns.
it's playable and nice.
it's not my personal grudge. I'm just trying to make flexible scheme and make people THINK more than build 100 girders.
Besides, who says it didn't work out on fb. Most of the people liked the IMPROVEMENT. Shortly after Kiros closed fb saying everyone to f@#! themselves and that he wouldn't do anything for worms community anymore. We know better now. ;O
Quote from: pr on June 24, 2009, 07:37 PM
cbc wxw scheme was the best wxw scheme ever and idc if there are 266 shotguns.
if u said that in the first place would've been just ok, "sg king".
smite u back ;)
Quote from: Rok on June 24, 2009, 08:07 PM
Quote from: pr on June 24, 2009, 07:37 PM
cbc wxw scheme was the best wxw scheme ever and idc if there are 266 shotguns.
if u said that in the first place would've been just ok, "sg king".
smite u back ;)
cant i try to joke at first before you smite me? :/
I didn't smite u so relax ;D
Oh, so should I add LG to my scheme?
You should download the correct schemes from the site.
hey about the t17 scheme, FirstBlood DID NOT force to play with 7 girders scheme. It was up to people, to either use the classic t17 scheme or the new 7 girders scheme. Well, this has nothing to do with fb, but I would like to choose the unlimited girders scheme too... and I suggest the t17 and wxw scheme from LW league, they have been discussed an updated very recently and they are very fair!
i prefer 7 girders, but leroy is right it shouldnt be forced most people like playing it with unlimited
unlimited griders!!
Hello wooka. Need someone to clan with? :-*
yea i do! now all i need is a little time :-X
Where i can find the Rule's of the schemes????
Enter TUS schemes:
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/
Click on a scheme name to enter its page.
Click on the 'Scheme explanation' strip.
The Team17 scheme had inf girders when it was fixed in #Team17, when there was secured logins. When playing a game in that channel, you could not edit the scheme, map, worms, anything. U just clicked ur bulb and went.
Although there are many different variations of the scheme floating around now, Team17 has remained exactly the same in every league/clan league as far as I can remember (WACL, CL2K, FB, TuS, etc)
It was brought to my attention today that the scheme was changed
Who decided to change it now? why?
Of all the games I play, I rarely use more than 7 girders anyway. Honestly, I think using girders to constantly block worms is a losing strategy. My opponents need to have inf. girders!!!!!
Do you say this a "strategy"? Repeating blocks... If you know these abbreviations like cl2k fb etc
you should have known that this scheme was first introduced by fb.
And fb also let people choose between two variations (7/unlimited). I never play with 7, unless my opponents requests that. Which hasn't happened yet :)
Quote from: pr on October 27, 2009, 07:46 PM
...If you know these abbreviations like cl2k fb etc
you should have known that this scheme was first introduced by fb.
Ive smoked a lot of different things between now and then so maybe I don't remember correctly w/CL2K, which I barely participated in.
I swear I played Team17 many times in WACL though
or do u mean this "7 girders" scheme? I downloaded the Team17 scheme from this site in Dec. 08 and there was only one Team17 scheme which had inf. girders and a green checkmark next to it
Quote from: SacrificialLamb on October 27, 2009, 08:45 PM
or do u mean this "7 girders" scheme? I downloaded the Team17 scheme from this site in Dec. 08 and there was only one Team17 scheme which had inf. girders and a green checkmark next to it
Meanwhile another one was added (yeah, the "7 girders" one") and there's a forum topic somewhere which says it's official.
I proclaim, "boooooooooooooooooooooo!!!"
Quote from: Rok on October 27, 2009, 09:00 PM
there's a forum topic somewhere which says it's official.
We are in it Rok :)
:-[ Yeah.
I reject your reality and substitute my own! ;D
Im not a fan of the 7 griders, and prefer umlimited.. i barely use more than 7 either but i still like them there. I think if you cant win against someone that grider blocks you all the time then you are not good enough and cant create any decent tactics of ur own to beat them... Id imagine that you have not been aggressive enough before sudden death and are getting grider blocked and don't have enough control of the map to collect some stronger cr8s. Therefore you should of done something differently before you got urself into this hard situation. Unlimited griders ftw! 7 griders are for poor players that can not finish a t17 game sooner!
I don't use 7 girders in my games either.
People do not always use the official schemes. Not only T17, For example Shoppers.
- 'Do you mind good old fb shopper scheme?'
- 'Nah, It's fine'
We can't and I guess we shouldn't go through games one by one and check if players have used official scheme or not.
We can set schemes as the official one, But when 2 people agrees on non-official and play it, That's done.
But if one opponent asks for the official scheme, Then the host must accept it.
Still our first concern is our activity.
The only time i would accept it is if someone picked it in playoff because it was their choice not mine.. Id expect them to have no problems playing umlimited girder if it was my pick not theirs.
I think offical scheme could be both. Its not often people disagree over it anyway. Most players are sporting enough to give and take and play certain variations to schemes. The old saying, "if u light up ur agreeing to scheme and map" is golden here. I dont think u can complain about a scheme if u light up. Should check it before ya do,.. espically if someone plays on and only complains if they lose.
I have been pondering the banishment of petrol bombs and flamethrowers (possibly miniguns too) from shopper.
I dont think the current tus scheme is that good I always add infinite zooks.
Also adding a super sheep with say a 20 turn delay on it in hysteria, this would help sort out the darksiding nightmare that can be so tedius when its 1 worm left each in hysteria.
Also giving players in T17 one aqua sheep each as standard.
Then there is no room for the complaint "no sd weps", as you can win a t17 from a big disadvantage with only 1 aqua sheep.
ll post a topic another time about it.
Quote from: NAiL on November 06, 2009, 10:37 PM
Also giving players in T17 one aqua sheep each as standard.
Then there is no room for the complaint "no sd weps", as you can win a t17 from a big disadvantage with only 1 aqua sheep.
Whoever complains about not getting SD weapons is someone that will whine about
anything. What's next, no freeze? or scales?
I have a suggestion: leave the scheme the way it is, because its been perfectly fine for 9 years [since ropes in crates was removed, and cluster bombs were reduced-powered around 1999/2000].
The only weapons you should ever start with in Team17 are some tools and your physical attacks. That's it.
I agree with Lamb, why changing something that worked fine for 9 years?
Quote from: Ray on November 07, 2009, 09:46 PM
I agree with Lamb, why changing something that worked fine for 9 years?
lol dude, you're the one who uploaded the butchered [AKA "revised"] scheme of T17 w/7 girders
Did I? :O
Oh dude, I remember, there was a problem with the scheme file and Wooka was not able to upload it, so he sent it to me and I uploaded it to the site.
hm i didnt do the scheme with 7 girders, i did the original one... it got changed i forget why, something to do with the cr8s i think... but i havent touched the t17 scheme since that
the plot thickens ???
lol xray contradicts himself alot, or maybe you just change your mind very quickly lol
There was a problem with the scheme's appearance on the site, since the super weapons were not shown. At first, everyone thought it was a bug, WookA uploaded the scheme again, but it still did not show the super weapons. Then he sent the scheme to me in private, I uploaded it to see if it was a bug at him or altogether and it turned out that due to the programming of the game itself, the site's scheme editor cannot show the super weapons. If that was not you WookA then I am sorry, but I remember this happened, I am not sure if it was with you WookA anymore.
Are you happy now NAiL? I don't know what's your problem with me, I never did anything wrong to you, still you keep bashing me for everything. If I wasn't clear enough in my last post, I tried to make things clear now. Leave me alone... :(
i do remember that ray, but that had nothing to do with 7 girders being in the scheme, some1 else edited that... we all agreed on it tho
lol
I edited that. I only made it with 7 girders as we discussed.
:o
*pumps fist at Monkey*
Should say scheme uploaded by MonkeyIsland
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on November 15, 2009, 04:37 AM
lol
I edited that. I only made it with 7 girders as we discussed.
I fail to remember that discussion.
Quote from: Rok on November 15, 2009, 09:09 PM
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on November 15, 2009, 04:37 AM
lol
I edited that. I only made it with 7 girders as we discussed.
I fail to remember that discussion.
It was a secret discussion ;) Big brother knows what's best for us
lol Do you like to tease me? ok do so! ;D
Anyway What's wrong with it? Anybody who agreed on playing unlimited version, They can. I didn't catch you guys on this thread. What do you want? xD
nothin Monkey haha just messin' around :P
I played the 7 girders version quite often lately and its cool. As you said 7 girders is all you need mostly in a game so why not go for it :). Prevents the excessive use of girders at least. But well as stated before every1 is free to use the scheme that they feel most comfortable with, i ll stick to 7 girders from now on.
Note that i actually was one of the guys that declined to use 7 girders when the discussion came up...
so more and more players i met dont mind umlimited griders.
Also more people notice an unbalance in the tus scheme of cr8s and weapons.. its like millions of hhgs, old ladies, miniguns, long bows, sheep launcher, theres no shit weapons and having to defend. Its all attack, attack, attac :(k!
I've been playing Team17 since like 2000, competing in channel #Team17~ These crate chances are the same as they've always been !!! ;) [Unlimited girders version]