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Title: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Anubis on June 30, 2011, 12:51 AM
Hey, have you (MI) ever thought about expanding TUS with it's optional features (leagues, cups etc.) to other games?

Like TUS-WA it could be TUS-CoD or whatever, I mean it's a nice platform itself not just W:A related and I am sure it would find it's followers from other games.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: franz on June 30, 2011, 01:59 AM
didn't HHC or IBB create something like that back in the day?

when WL (Worms League?) was the main league,
I think it was coded simple enough that he also made WebLeague for anyone to use for any game.

I imagine TUS's code is a lot more complex though.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: nino on June 30, 2011, 03:25 AM
ahhh now we know what game anubis is addicted nowadays CoD hmmm seems nice xD i remember dakz told me long time ago u were playing this game now and thats why u dont give a porra to worms anymore :( porra i missed my satanic beard.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/im30ox.gif)


Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: TitiO on June 30, 2011, 08:44 AM
lets play Age of Empires !


wololo  ;D
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on June 30, 2011, 11:39 AM
I would love to see TUS take over the gaming world and for MI to become very rich!
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: HHC on June 30, 2011, 11:56 AM
The way he runs it now I'm thinking he might just do that, except come out extremely poor  :D
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Anubis on June 30, 2011, 03:56 PM
ahhh now we know what game anubis is addicted nowadays CoD hmmm seems nice xD i remember dakz told me long time ago u were playing this game now and thats why u dont give a porra to worms anymore :( porra i missed my satanic beard.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/im30ox.gif)




I don't even have any Call of Duty game, I had CoD MW1 cracked and finished single player within 4 hours so I will never buy a game that only lasts a few hours. I would be better off going to cinema 3 times and have more fun. :)

P.S.: CoD is fast food for gamers, not my kind.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: nino on June 30, 2011, 04:11 PM
ahhh now we know what game anubis is addicted nowadays CoD hmmm seems nice xD i remember dakz told me long time ago u were playing this game now and thats why u dont give a porra to worms anymore :( porra i missed my satanic beard.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/im30ox.gif)




I don't even have any Call of Duty game, I had CoD MW1 cracked and finished single player within 4 hours so I will never buy a game that only lasts a few hours. I would be better off going to cinema 3 times and have more fun. :)

P.S.: CoD is fast food for gamers, not my kind.

lol anubis, u reply me so serious as if i really care for this, just comeback to WA thats all xD
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Anubis on June 30, 2011, 05:05 PM
You put the serious Anubis face into the thread so I thought it's serious. :(
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: darKz on June 30, 2011, 05:17 PM
I said "WoW", not "CoD" btw. :P
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: nino on June 30, 2011, 05:31 PM
oh yea, WoW  my bad. sorry :(

Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: CMV on June 30, 2011, 07:45 PM
Isn't cod a type of fish?
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on June 30, 2011, 10:17 PM
will never work
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: MonkeyIsland on July 01, 2011, 01:20 PM
I think for this to work, I need to get involved with those games. W:A iteself (as a game which everyone once in a while label it "a 12-years old dead game") wasn't totally open to or accept TUS from the beginning. Do you think other more-populated games will do otherwise?

Unfortunately I can't find fun in these 3D full graphical games for a long period of time. I believe they give you excitement just for the moment and nothing more. That's why they don't last enough and their companies need to update, update, update them.

However I'm coding TUS2 and it is becoming even more flexible and it can accept new games even more that it can now. But as HHC mentioned, I gotta find a way to earn money from this. :)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: THeDoGG on July 01, 2011, 01:54 PM
...
However I'm coding TUS2 and it is becoming even more flexible and it can accept new games even more that it can now. But as HHC mentioned, I gotta find a way to earn money from this. :)
I can help on this, maybe.. :)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Crazy on July 01, 2011, 02:24 PM
Are you rich dogg?
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: darKz on July 01, 2011, 02:28 PM
Though nobody likes them, how about the most basic way to gain some money from a site and put some adverts on TUS? Not those annoying ones, I'm sure you can find decent adverts which don't disturb the flow of browsing the site too much.. :)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 02:42 PM
Yeh man even annoying ones, we dont mind! Do what it takes to get that P man!

Do you have to prove you get a certain amount of traffic to get advertisers to pay for web space or what? How does that work?
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: THeDoGG on July 01, 2011, 03:33 PM
Are you rich dogg?

If you call richness the curiosity of world and the open-mind spirit, so yes I am rich.  :P

About monetizing, I've got some experience working on the web, that is why I said I can maybe help on it :)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: franz on July 01, 2011, 03:44 PM
or maybe a sponsoring partnership.
W:A might not be big enough though

plus team17 stopped selling W:A in their store, right?
not a great selling point for sponsors..
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 04:40 PM
^ but they may be re-releasing WA on Steam in the future. We should get a petition going to convince Team17 to do it, already went through this crap on their forums, so annoying -.-
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Rok on July 01, 2011, 04:42 PM
What if we write a new game from scratch? :P
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 01, 2011, 04:55 PM
do not get a sponsor and do not get too many adverts.
set up a donation link so the intersted can send in money through paypal or similar.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 04:56 PM
yeh we already have a donation system set up
dont listen to ropa
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 01, 2011, 06:36 PM
so thats all the money there is to it. look i can speak with great common sense or just go the route of experience, both modus operandis result in the same conclusion: you can't earn money with a worms league, there is not a big enough market and the target mass doesnt even have financial power (their moms do) so even if there was a market it would be a pretty mediocre one.
if the idea is to be absorved by a bigger internet entity then youre naive to expect theres actuslly someone who knows the formula to get money out of all this and thinks this you have here is a valuable asset to their money making plans.

do it for love or dont do it, but noone here has an edge cutting idea and dont expect that to change unless something mayor hsppens like WA being released on a digital distributor like Steam.

so dont listen to the n@#!!!, chances are he skipped class to deal with crack (and make BR maps)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 06:40 PM
Didnt understand all that but the last part made me smile
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: TheWalrus on July 01, 2011, 06:44 PM
so thats all the money there is to it. look i can speak with great common sense or just go the route of experience, both modus operandis result in the same conclusion: you can't earn money with a worms league, there is not a big enough market and the target mass doesnt even have financial power (their moms do) so even if there was a market it would be a pretty mediocre one.
Having been around for awhile, maybe back in 2000-2003 there were enough wormers to maybe make money with a WL.  I think worms leagues now are a break even proposition, no more no less.  Ropa is right.  Whether you decide to put up ads or not, its amazing worms is even alive still, but way too old to make money off of lol...the game is 12 years old
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 06:51 PM
nah disagree.

Never say never, with a will theres a way.

We shouldnt rule out the possibility of MI being able to make a bob or two from TUS until all avenues have been exhausted.
We havent even tried yet, no need to be pessimistic about it.

Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: nino on July 01, 2011, 06:55 PM
the money he would do maybe would be just a help to have fun at weekends indeed, he wont make money like the creator of facebook did of course, but better than nothing ae.

and this thing of 12 years old game, doesnot matter, if there were 50k peples in ag all the time the age of game wont make any diference, the problem is that the community is too small and to make money over internet u have to get many peoples involved in the process,  cos from 1 milion of peoples only 1k would really give him money back, which is kinda good.

look here per exemple, MI made that donation stuff, few peoples made him some donation, like 0.1% of peoples registered in tus, so thats it.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 01, 2011, 06:56 PM
okay nail, seeing as youre so optimistic i expect you to be amongst the top in investments for this new entrpeneour.

or youre all talk?
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 07:14 PM
Well if It looked like I'd make a return on my investment, sure id invest! Im a student so funds are low right now (donation still coming dont worry lad).

Im not dumb though, as nino said I know that WA isnt popular enough for people to be able to make any serious money from 3rd party sites. I doubt TUS has the necessary traffic to draw in interest from advertisers or sponsors, right now anyway.

BUT...

If TUS did manage to branch out to other games and gain a larger user base, there is a good chance there'd be enough traffic to interest advertisers. With an overhaul of the site on the way and a more professional layout, I dont see why this couldnt be a viable possibility. As to exactly which games (or things) TUS could draw more users from I dont know, however the potential do do it is here. If WA is released on Steam (Team17 actually check their forums now, we did already try and present a case to them but there was only 3 people proposing the idea), this would help greatly and be a good start. You shouldnt give up before you've even tried, that doesnt achieve anything. Even you try and fail, the attempt at least is worth the effort.

On a side note, Team17 are so annoyed by WA. Its that 10 year old game that just wont go away with a couple of guys who keep updating it and making it better and better. WR was a flop and there was a ton of complaints about it over on
Steam and Team17 forums. I was banned from both forums for standing up for WA and all the mugs who dont realise just how great this game has become in comparison to all the other worms games, even one they JUST released that had been tested by WA players. They neglected all the feedback given to them by the testers and made a shitty game.

...not sure if that has much to do with what we're talking about, but my point is Team17 are not supportive of CS or WA as it hinders sales of their new worms games (cos they suck ass).
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 01, 2011, 07:25 PM
yes yes fantastic super idea if it wasnt for the favt its been done many times.before and nwver with success.
there is no market in online leagues for game on websites, online games nowadays come with a similar system or an equally rwarding alternative.
game league websites are not a market opportunity in this day, your money is better away from them.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 07:36 PM
Do you actually have any examples of when they've tried and failed? Not saying you dont, im intrigued. Dont patronise me with no support to your claim.

You're saying theres no appeal to advertisers because the user base has no expendable income? Dont advertisers appeal to children by getting their parents to buy the stuff anyway?

Who says TUS has to stick to just games? TUS could become a viral video site, with a little link at the top: WA league.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Devilage on July 01, 2011, 07:50 PM
Are you rich dogg?

If you call richness the curiosity of world and the open-mind spirit, so yes I am rich.  :P

About monetizing, I've got some experience working on the web, that is why I said I can maybe help on it :)

u owe me something biatch! make it a porn site and sure Mi wil win some money.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Crazy on July 01, 2011, 08:40 PM
nah disagree.

Never say never, with a will theres a way.

We shouldnt rule out the possibility of MI being able to make a bob or two from TUS until all avenues have been exhausted.
We havent even tried yet, no need to be pessimistic about it.



Inspired by Bieber, Nail? :D Anyway, making money on TUS must be a goal far ahead into the future, right now it seems almost impossible... But if we can help MI not to lose any money in the making and maintenance of this site, that would atleast be something... So, if you care about this league, use it a lot etc etc,  and have some extra money, why not donate ???
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 01, 2011, 09:32 PM
Do you actually have any examples of when they've tried and failed? Not saying you dont, im intrigued. Dont patronise me with no support to your claim.

You're saying theres no appeal to advertisers because the user base has no expendable income? Dont advertisers appeal to children by getting their parents to buy the stuff anyway?

Who says TUS has to stick to just games? TUS could become a viral video site, with a little link at the top: WA league.

what the f@#! are we talking about then?

im going to leave you guys decide what kind of bussines you wanna start together using this as a base. i thought we were talking about worms leagues here.
good look
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Alien on July 01, 2011, 09:35 PM
i agree with ropa, same with ''gaming central'' forum, let tus site only reserved for w:a... +1
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 01, 2011, 09:52 PM
Alien ropa is an angry pessimist, always has been! You should have seen how he spoke about tus when it first started, now look at tus. He's a clever guy and fun to play with, but he puts a downer on things at times, kills the love you know what im saying?

As I said before,

Do you have examples of when when this sort of thing has been tried and failed? Im interested.

Do advertisers not find it appealing because there is little expendable income in that age bracket or are there other reasons? I thought that men aged 16-40 (or higher) was one of the most lucrative target audiences. The average age of a gamer is 37 and they obviously have an expendable income to be able to be playing games... or am I completely missing something here?

I also never said in order to make money TUS would only have to branch out to more of the gaming user base. Im obviously not serious about tus becoming a viral video site, but that would be funny.

This topic has swayed quite far from the original post, I think we're getting carried away with our pipe dreams! Who knows though, im sure TUS is going to continue to grow regardless of the direction MI chooses to take it. I dont think any other league has had a founder this motivated to listen to the users and improve his creation as much as he does.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: cOke on July 01, 2011, 10:37 PM
ahhh now we know what game anubis is addicted nowadays CoD hmmm seems nice xD i remember dakz told me long time ago u were playing this game now and thats why u dont give a porra to worms anymore :( porra i missed my satanic beard.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/im30ox.gif)




I don't even have any Call of Duty game, I had CoD MW1 cracked and finished single player within 4 hours so I will never buy a game that only lasts a few hours. I would be better off going to cinema 3 times and have more fun. :)

P.S.: CoD is fast food for gamers, not my kind.

that's cos it's all about the multiplayer - single player is limited fun and throw away I agree, but the real fun is in multiplayer, just like worms mate.

lets make tus into a porn site aye.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: nino on July 01, 2011, 11:21 PM
madog, join f0s if u want some porn xD
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: TheKomodo on July 02, 2011, 12:05 AM
Who says TUS has to stick to just games? TUS could become a viral video site, with a little link at the top: WA league.

Sorry but if TuS turned into some mad website with lots of bollux that isn't WA, i'd lose interest, I love this League because it's WA specific and it's our community, most regular WA players all know each other, TuS is like that little village where everyone knows each other lol.

And let us not forget: If it ain't broke, don't fix it ;)


Alien, me and HHC started "Gaming Central" because it is done by WA players, quite a few of us have consoles as well and enjoy other games, so it's kinda nice for us to find things we have in common and see your friends reviews on other games you may possibly like, for me it's an opportunity to discover a game you never seen or thought about buying :)
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Alien on July 02, 2011, 12:57 AM
Alien ropa is an angry pessimist, always has been! You should have seen how he spoke about tus when it first started, now look at tus. He's a clever guy and fun to play with, but he puts a downer on things at times, kills the love you know what im saying?
yes i know what you meant,  but i don't know him.
he has only said what i have thought.

okay, Nail and Komito...if the majority has spoken, i'm obviously for it.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 03, 2011, 11:31 AM
Alien ropa is an angry pessimist, always has been! You should have seen how he spoke about tus when it first started, now look at tus.



i never said tus wouldnt work out, infact, my only concern at that time was that i knew it would.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Aerox on July 03, 2011, 11:33 AM
also, does no one here have historic memory?
this is gamerpitt all over again, difference is tge average IQ nowadays is even lower than it was then.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Anubis on July 03, 2011, 06:42 PM
Who says TUS has to stick to just games? TUS could become a viral video site, with a little link at the top: WA league.

Sorry but if TuS turned into some mad website with lots of bollux that isn't WA, i'd lose interest, I love this League because it's WA specific and it's our community, most regular WA players all know each other, TuS is like that little village where everyone knows each other lol.


Ah Komo, of course I didn't mean that TUS-WA.com should be removed or alternated. But I thought about new Domains like TUS-Whatever-Game.com
You wouldn't see other games on W:A Tus, that should be obvious. ^^
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: Gabriel on July 03, 2011, 08:25 PM
lets play Age of Empires !


wololo  ;D

haha ME TOO

...
However I'm coding TUS2 and it is becoming even more flexible and it can accept new games even more that it can now. But as HHC mentioned, I gotta find a way to earn money from this. :)
I can help on this, maybe.. :)

gogogogogogo
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: NAiL on July 04, 2011, 10:52 AM
I dont see why TUS couldnt expand to WR, people want a league and community base for that game. There are some community sites but none as established as TUS.
Title: Re: Expanding TUS?
Post by: HHC on July 04, 2011, 11:42 AM
Without a proper game server any attempt in that direction is bound to end in big failure. WR will be dead in a few months (ty to T17).  :(

Any other game is equally chanceless IMO.  :-[