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Title: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 07, 2011, 04:24 PM
that's intersting that last post by doubletime was in April, and today he got 4 smites in a row... f@#! this system which bases on 'who you like, and who you dislike'
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Prankster on September 07, 2011, 04:41 PM
that's intersting that last post by doubletime was in April, and today he got 4 smites in a row... f@#! this system which bases on 'who you like, and who you dislike'

He might got those smites because of his behaviour in games or chat as well.. But seriously, who cares? :)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: theredi on September 07, 2011, 05:06 PM
smiters gonna be smited ;D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 07, 2011, 07:45 PM
karma system was made (I believe) to applaud smart post and smite spam and idiotc, but in small community like worms it's impossible to work without sentiments. So if something works bad, should be changed or removed.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ray on September 07, 2011, 07:52 PM
So if something works bad, should be changed or removed.
Exactly.

I think you work pretty bad as a part of this community, you haven't changed in a while, let's remove you! :D I am joking.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 07, 2011, 07:58 PM
So if something works bad, should be changed or removed.
Exactly.

I think you work pretty bad as a part of this community, you haven't changed in a while, let's remove you! :D I am joking.

if you don't like me, it doesn't mean whole community don't like me too, I have got couple of friends here :)
and I work prety well as a part of this game... 8)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Alien on September 07, 2011, 08:20 PM
another useless karma topic and that about doubletime ? o.O
good job maciej... xd
and tbh, i smited him too...4 smites in a row just looks funny !
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Guaton on September 07, 2011, 09:47 PM
another useless karma topic and that about doubletime ? o.O
good job maciej... xd
and tbh, i smited him too...4 smites in a row just looks funny !

get a life lol
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 07, 2011, 10:04 PM
and tbh, i smited him too...4 smites in a row just looks funny !

have fun with the karma system, that's why I smite you :)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 07, 2011, 10:12 PM
Maciej, i have been pm MI because tus karma system is unfair.

Why it is unfair? When u make a smart post, few ppl applaud You. When u make a simple post, a lot of ppl will smite You.

Probably some hates ll smite me only because i am posting. Check it.

Karma is not important but... Let be sincere... Who likes to be smited (except Alien xd) ??

*** 20 mins later of my post: Professor got smited 4 times. Why? Because TUS is becoming sentimental a lot. Girls have been smiting no sense. ***
Title: Re: karma
Post by: nino on September 07, 2011, 10:22 PM
+1 all
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ray on September 07, 2011, 10:25 PM
get a life lol
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Alien on September 07, 2011, 10:49 PM
get a life lol

ray, you post exactly the same what guaton posted...you are the most time online user here at tus and tells me to get a life ?
seriously, i lol'ed aubout that. xd
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Kaleu on September 08, 2011, 03:03 AM
So if something works bad, should be changed or removed.
Exactly.

I think you work pretty bad as a part of this community, you haven't changed in a while, let's remove you! :D I am joking.

Lol, nice1.

______________________

Vote for removing Maciej TUS karma !
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Abnaxus on September 08, 2011, 03:03 AM
Just don't give a f@#! at it ?  ;D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Kaleu on September 08, 2011, 03:05 AM
What you think that i do ?  ;)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Hussar on September 08, 2011, 08:13 AM
I think if we all are the part of wa community so we need to accept it how we are looking in other eyes,
karma give us an image of our behavior against others players. that means then every insults or rude behavior and stuipid posting or others also good statament too is not forgotten.

Exept guys who just dont like other one and smite him everyday  :-X

My idea > we can change only this then we cant smite/applaud someone everyday, only for example one time for 3 days  ::) (I'm not sure if this works)

I'm curious how many smites i got here  :D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: THeDoGG on September 08, 2011, 08:29 AM
-1 for maciej
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ray on September 08, 2011, 08:35 AM
ray, you post exactly the same what guaton posted...you are the most time online user here at tus and tells me to get a life ?
seriously, i lol'ed aubout that. xd
Yes, I quoted him, because he says exactly what needs to be said. You guys are all acting so weird and caring about this shit! It's a number next to your nickname in worms.

Just say this sentense again to yourself. Just keep repeating until you realize what I mean.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Alien on September 08, 2011, 10:18 AM
ray, you post exactly the same what guaton posted...you are the most time online user here at tus and tells me to get a life ?
seriously, i lol'ed aubout that. xd
Yes, I quoted him, because he says exactly what needs to be said. You guys are all acting so weird and caring about this shit! It's a number next to your nickname in worms.

Just say this sentense again to yourself. Just keep repeating until you realize what I mean.

i give a damn about karma and sorry, i have better things to do...than repeating your quoted shit to myself.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ray on September 08, 2011, 10:30 AM
Then you are contradicting yourself.

I'm just curious, why? ;D What is with Reputation or Karma that is makes some people interested? You really care what other people on the internet think about you? If Facebook had a system like that, and you had a bad number, I'd understand that feels shit, because those people know you personally - well, in most cases - and you have an actual contact with them.

But here? I mean, it's a forum, you don't know my voice, you don't know how I say things on a forum, I'm mostly sarcastic for instance and that's hard to understand through typed words, do you get what I mean?

Besides: it's worms. ;D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Aerox on September 08, 2011, 10:56 AM
You're as bad as the smite abusers if you care at all for how much karma points you have.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Alien on September 08, 2011, 10:58 AM
Then you are contradicting yourself.

I'm just curious, why? ;D What is with Reputation or Karma that is makes some people interested? You really care what other people on the internet think about you? If Facebook had a system like that, and you had a bad number, I'd understand that feels shit, because those people know you personally - well, in most cases - and you have an actual contact with them.

But here? I mean, it's a forum, you don't know my voice, you don't know how I say things on a forum, I'm mostly sarcastic for instance and that's hard to understand through typed words, do you get what I mean?

Besides: it's worms. ;D

i don't contradicting myself, how you come to that !?
i have said, that i give a damn about karma...didn't you understand ?
i was smitten twice in a row now and i feel nothing, because there is not a good system behind the karma feature.
of course i care a bit of what other wormers think about me,
because we are a community and i don't want to have a behaviour or reputation like doubletime and company.
but i don't take this here too serious, like others do...exactly for this reason -> it's just a game and not the real life ! :)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Aerox on September 08, 2011, 11:26 AM
Then you are contradicting yourself.

I'm just curious, why? ;D What is with Reputation or Karma that is makes some people interested? You really care what other people on the internet think about you? If Facebook had a system like that, and you had a bad number, I'd understand that feels shit, because those people know you personally - well, in most cases - and you have an actual contact with them.

But here? I mean, it's a forum, you don't know my voice, you don't know how I say things on a forum, I'm mostly sarcastic for instance and that's hard to understand through typed words, do you get what I mean?

Besides: it's worms. ;D

i don't contradicting myself, how you come to that !?
i have said, that i give a damn about karma...didn't you understand ?
i was smitten twice in a row now and i feel nothing, because there is not a good system behind the karma feature.
of course i care a bit of what other wormers think about me,
because we are a community and i don't want to have a behaviour or reputation like doubletime and company.
but i don't take this here too serious, like others do...exactly for this reason -> it's just a game and not the real life ! :)

the problem is the karma points you have are not representative of your personality or your behaviour.
I think you're a cool dude per example but I have never smited or applauded anyone.

I mean, surely you realize it's contradictory to care about the karma system being someone who has abused said system in the past as part of an agenda albeit not one of your own.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: TheWalrus on September 08, 2011, 12:19 PM
everyone should give ropa +1 for making so much damn sense all the time.  so +1 i think ill do this for the next xxx days.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 08, 2011, 12:25 PM
I agree with all said about karma.

But i still guessing that if "smite" option becomes TUS very sentimental.

I believe that function "smite" must to be deleted. Like Facebook, It has only "like" option.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 08, 2011, 12:38 PM
-1 for maciej

you see? another example of smite without arg
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 08, 2011, 12:51 PM
chill down maciej, i guess alot of smites result in your post behavior, like attacking sk for no reason. well and there always will be haters, feel proud you force people to push a button only with your existence ;D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Abnaxus on September 08, 2011, 01:55 PM
you force people to push a button only with your existence ;D
Was fun.  :D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Chelsea on September 08, 2011, 05:28 PM
weeeee

some1 idiot smited me xDDDD

dunno why coz 2 minutes ago i tourned on my computer xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 

thx hater ! i will burn your home ! :DDDD
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 08, 2011, 06:30 PM
Smite someone no reason (Be hater) i think is a proof about who is mad person here... I am sorry because suddenly TUS is becoming a mess.

When someone has a good idea and post here, haters wanna smite him, always.

Ppl can to lose the desire to join TUS comunitty because mad ppl like haters.

Delete the karma system is necessary now.

PD: More 2 smites for me because I posted. Why this ppl dont show his face... Affraid or shame?
Title: Re: karma
Post by: angus on September 08, 2011, 06:34 PM
xdd
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Camper on September 08, 2011, 07:44 PM
Smite someone no reason (Be hater) i think is a proof about who is mad person here... I am sorry because suddenly TUS is becoming a mess.



Its not TUS what is becoming a mess, but, the people who posts shits like this.


Seriously, stop this drama, its just a game. f@#! it.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: lalo on September 08, 2011, 08:47 PM
Nerds gonna complain, for what they actually deserve.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 08, 2011, 09:29 PM
At least, nerds have balls [/mode FUB off]  8)

Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ray on September 08, 2011, 10:45 PM
Nerds gonna complain, for what they actually deserve.
See? These are the kind of posts people - most likely - applaud. ;)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 08, 2011, 10:57 PM
Nerds gonna complain, for what they actually deserve.
See? These are the kind of posts people - most likely - applaud. ;)

Be calm Ray, lets talk about the theme topic: the karma system.

I still believe that deleting the "smite" function could be better.

If someone dont like of post, just no applaud it.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: angus on September 08, 2011, 11:06 PM
Im f@#!ing tired about peoples that care so much about own reputation in iternet,,, its a sick bullshit for nerds idk, internet monkeys maybe
you are the f@#!ing most pathetic and stupid guy around here professor just shut up that mouth and go cry in another place.
(https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif) 
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 08, 2011, 11:11 PM
well, i dont create the topic, i am just answering...

I care with my reputation in internet, in real life, in anywhere. That's the concept about friendship and fairplay.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Kaleu on September 09, 2011, 02:23 AM
Im f@#!ing tired about peoples that care so much about own reputation in iternet,,, its a sick bullshit for nerds idk, internet monkeys maybe
you are the f@#!ing most pathetic and stupid guy around here professor just shut up that mouth and go cry in another place.

zomg i know how to insult.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: TheKomodo on September 09, 2011, 05:56 AM
it's just a game and not the real life ! :)

Oh yeah, I forgot, it's just a figment of our imagination, this never really happened, when we die it will never have existed.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: THeDoGG on September 09, 2011, 07:26 AM
Lol yeah all this are just 0 and 1 ... 0101110010101011010

... sometimes it's some -1 too ! (for maciej :P)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Ramone on September 09, 2011, 11:27 PM
I've just bumped into another (36th) karma topic, and I rly can't be bothered to read those 3 pages of 36th time again.

So, if I'm OT sry, but,

MI, are U gonna do that general poll about removing karma (that U've been talking about) or what?

These debates have been gone endlessly.. . .
Title: Re: karma
Post by: sock on September 09, 2011, 11:37 PM
next there will be a new community agaisnt karma and a community for karma lol
Title: Re: karma
Post by: skOrpuz on September 09, 2011, 11:47 PM




have fun  :-\


       


Title: Re: karma
Post by: lalo on September 09, 2011, 11:50 PM
next there will be a new community agaisnt karma and a community for karma lol
OSITO! Don't give them ideas, don't you know that sth similar happened because some ppl couldn't handle their anger when they were not accepted in ea?
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 10, 2011, 01:09 AM
next there will be a new community agaisnt karma and a community for karma lol

i would support a community for karma abuse
Title: Re: karma
Post by: DarkOne on September 10, 2011, 06:24 AM
Aren't you already in FoS? ???
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 11, 2011, 12:09 PM
you are the f@#!ing most pathetic and stupid guy around here professor just shut up that mouth and go cry in another place.
(https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif) 

got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria .... so imo angus just spoke out what a lot of people think, even he used kinda hard language :D
its just funny how some guys get punished for their post behavior and others not. but i wont throw in any names here, i just cant see any clear line in this.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: DENnis on September 11, 2011, 01:45 PM
Smite someone no reason (Be hater) i think is a proof about who is mad person here... I am sorry because suddenly TUS is becoming a mess.

When someone has a good idea and post here, haters wanna smite him, always.

Ppl can to lose the desire to join TUS comunitty because mad ppl like haters.

Delete the karma system is necessary now.

PD: More 2 smites for me because I posted. Why this ppl dont show his face... Affraid or shame?

No, not delete, just delete the anonymity.

You could reognize haters and unfair people easier then. Unfair people should get banned from the system. Next Idea: U can only smite with writing a reason.

But the best way would be, delete the smite and just use it like a "I like" system where u can see who like ur post (or not, but with a reason then at least!).
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Husk on September 11, 2011, 02:10 PM
But the best way would be, delete the smite and just use it like a "I like" system where u can see who like ur post (or not, but with a reason then at least!).

yep (=
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 11, 2011, 09:15 PM
next there will be a new community agaisnt karma and a community for karma lol
OSITO! Don't give them ideas, don't you know that sth similar happened because some ppl couldn't handle their anger when they were not accepted in ea?


Well, I believe that "create comunitties" is free at anyone... Btw Lalo, do You want a invite to join iE? You look so interested xD

you are the f@#!ing most pathetic and stupid guy around here professor just shut up that mouth and go cry in another place.
(https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif)

got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria .... so imo angus just spoke out what a lot of people think, even he used kinda hard language :D
its just funny how some guys get punished for their post behavior and others not. but i wont throw in any names here, i just cant see any clear line in this.

Censure ne1?

Smite someone no reason (Be hater) i think is a proof about who is mad person here... I am sorry because suddenly TUS is becoming a mess.

When someone has a good idea and post here, haters wanna smite him, always.

Ppl can to lose the desire to join TUS comunitty because mad ppl like haters.

Delete the karma system is necessary now.

PD: More 2 smites for me because I posted. Why this ppl dont show his face... Affraid or shame?

No, not delete, just delete the anonymity.

You could reognize haters and unfair people easier then. Unfair people should get banned from the system. Next Idea: U can only smite with writing a reason.

But the best way would be, delete the smite and just use it like a "I like" system where u can see who like ur post (or not, but with a reason then at least!).

Nice ideas Dennis, I liked this:

delete the smite and just use it like a "I like" system .

Could be TUS more friendly and less "trolling"
Title: Re: karma
Post by: DarkOne on September 11, 2011, 10:32 PM
you are the f@#!ing most pathetic and stupid guy around here professor just shut up that mouth and go cry in another place.
(https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/Themes/default/images/warnpmod.gif)

got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria .... so imo angus just spoke out what a lot of people think, even he used kinda hard language :D
its just funny how some guys get punished for their post behavior and others not. but i wont throw in any names here, i just cant see any clear line in this.

Censure ne1?

I wonder how you mean this. If you're asking whether we're applying censureship, then no. People can voice their opinion, but they can do while keeping their manners.
If you're asking us to censure what Peja said there, then HELL no. It's healthy to get criticism (as long as it's constructive and has merit, of course) and if you can't handle criticism, I hear there are lots of places for hermits still available.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 11, 2011, 10:36 PM
got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria ....

Here is the "censure". I believe that this is not "criticism" because what i see here is some haters that dont respect my voice.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: sock on September 11, 2011, 11:28 PM
got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria ....

Here is the "censure". I believe that this is not "criticism" because what i see here is some haters that dont respect my voice.

Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 12, 2011, 12:23 AM
got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria ....

Here is the "censure". I believe that this is not "criticism" because what i see here is some haters that dont respect my voice.

i really respect you as a good friend and worms buddy, but i just cant stand your whole democratic talk. theres is no censorship here and their are always polls about everything. imo you are speaking for a minority in some cases, but you always try to force  changes by your statement and not for example with creating polls etc. that looks like your an wannabe dictator in my eyes, but back to topic.

i really like the smite feature, its a funny option and the most important thing: it is working

noone gets a negative karma without any responsability for that. maybe you have pissed off some people (FoS, for example) or you acted wrong in an league match, you  post bullshit, or its just the style of writing,
no need to take this game that much serious, but i dont want to miss to push the button when kaleu starts spamming again (just an example)  
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 12, 2011, 12:50 AM
got angus moderated for this? tbh prof is just crying in every topic, about his karma, about ea, about hysteria ....

Here is the "censure". I believe that this is not "criticism" because what i see here is some haters that dont respect my voice.

i really respect you as a good friend and worms buddy, but i just cant stand your whole democratic talk. theres is no censorship here and their are always polls about everything. imo you are speaking for a minority in some cases, but you always try to force  changes by your statement and not for example with creating polls etc. that looks like your an wannabe dictator in my eyes, but back to topic.

i really like the smite feature, its a funny option and the most important thing: it is working

noone gets a negative karma without any responsability for that. maybe you have pissed off some people (FoS, for example) or you acted wrong in an league match, you  post bullshit, or its just the style of writing,
no need to take this game that much serious, but i dont want to miss to push the button when kaleu starts spamming again (just an example)  

Peja, You are a good friend but You were unhapply in ur post about me crying. I dont crying because i have arguments, i dont want that ppl agree with me, I want only that ppl respect my voice and give their arguments also.

Smite feature is a good feature in theory, if ppl should use the smite correctly, no one should complaint. But when smite feaature is used to bad proposital, It becomes useless :/ What happens here is that ppl are smited unfairly.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 12, 2011, 01:02 AM
what is an unfair smite? its just a feature to show the opinion about posts or behavior and its highly subjective, so imo there cant be a unfair smite.
to say: "pls remove karma function because i get unfair smites" is like running to the principals office and claim for school uniforms after someone said:"your clothes suck" while you are wearing this collection

(http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/crazy-pants-gang1_060111031501.jpg)
in your first week on high school.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Husk on September 12, 2011, 01:12 AM
I just don't see anything wrong with that picture... except... nah.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: TheWalrus on September 12, 2011, 03:27 AM
dont know why angus got moderated, that man is the voice of reason in these dark and troubled times
Title: Re: karma
Post by: THeDoGG on September 12, 2011, 04:19 PM
well cmon Angus was maybe right, but it's clear why he has been moderated.. I was even 200% sure he would be when I first read his post.. just there was too many "f@#!", that's all :)
He could have share the same opinion whithout any bad words, he wouldnt have been moderated.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 12, 2011, 04:52 PM
Okay, in a wonderful day ppl insults others ppl and the life is beautiful with a lot of shut ups, f@#! its and f@#!ing pathetic. Let me try then:

If no one cares with porra of reputation, delete this shit of Karma system, This stupid system is useless and angry ppl won't complaint about this waste posts anymore.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: theredi on September 12, 2011, 05:31 PM
free the angus gree the angus!!! thats what ppl want :D democracy FTW ;p
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Kaleu on September 12, 2011, 05:33 PM
Lol.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Gabriel on September 12, 2011, 06:15 PM
Okay, in a wonderful day ppl insults others ppl and the life is beautiful with a lot of shut ups, f@#! its and f@#!ing pathetic. Let me try then:

If no one cares with porra of reputation, delete this shit of Karma system, This stupid system is useless and angry ppl won't complaint about this waste posts anymore.

dont post like this or your caring of karma will become a caring of your moderation dot xD
Title: Re: karma
Post by: TheWalrus on September 12, 2011, 06:38 PM
just there was too many "f@#!", that's all :)
Maybe there was not enough f@#!  ;D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Desetroyah on September 12, 2011, 06:41 PM
just there was too many "f@#!", that's all :)
Maybe there was not enough f@#!  ;D


dude...there's no such thing as "too much f@#!" if you're a man ^^
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 12, 2011, 06:47 PM
just there was too many "f@#!", that's all :)
Maybe there was not enough f@#!  ;D


dude...there's no such thing as "too much f@#!" if you're a man ^^

xDDDDDDDD You are right
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Prankster on September 12, 2011, 07:14 PM
Jus to get in the conversation again: it's good to get some applauds, isn't it? And it feels bad, when you get smites, aye?
No one gets smitten or applauded for no reason, there is always a reason. And I can't believe people don't know the reason they get those pluses or minuses for.
Even if it's something in the past. Consequences can live longer on the internet, they mean less than in "real life" though, imo.
If you can't handle your feelings about your karma, internet is not for you.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: DumbBongChow on September 12, 2011, 07:34 PM
Good point; I do believe applaud and smite always happen for a reason. At this point, there seems to be two political party: one that goes against karma system and one that doesn't actually care or actually favors it. -_-;

If you wanna learn how to raise reputation through having good attitude, learn it from the master Husk. (That guy got too much love or something though! XD)
Title: Re: karma
Post by: nino on September 12, 2011, 10:13 PM
i <3 husk too
Title: Re: karma
Post by: NAiL on September 13, 2011, 02:06 PM
I guess the ultimate question is does the karma system do more harm than good, in my opinion it does.

The only benefits of the karma system as it stands are selfish pleasures. The pleasure of seeing someone you dislike with low karma and equally the pleasure of seeing your own high karma. Yes in some cases a "player's" karma can give an idea as to their nature both in games and on the forums, however for the large part we accept that it is silly to judge someone solely by their karma on tus... that goes without saying.

To those of you saying stupid stuff like "dood who the f@#! care about karma wtf"... ive noticed that you yourselves dont have negative karma. No matter what you say, NOBODY wants to log on to a website they visit daily about a game they love and see that members of a community they consider themselves to be a part of have been "disliking" them. Sure nobody is gonna commit suicide over worms... at the same time its no fun seeing people have been "disliking" you. Its also annoying seeing people with very high karma who's attitudes don't always reflect this "score". I do not like the way the karma system instils a false sense of authority and righteousness, suggesting someone with a higher karma may be more likely to be right about something is irritating and patronising. This is a small community, we know each other well enough to not need a number to tell us who does what and who acts dumb.

Its also near impossible for people with seriously negative karma to climb back up, even if they change their ways.
I take the example of crash, sure he acted dumb sometimes.... but for the last year or so he has been perfectly fine and his karma is not fair. Even if people do change their attitude, the community doesnt care enough to raise their karma in acknowledgement.

If the current system is to be kept then as I already suggested people should be allowed to reset their karma every few months or so. That way if people do change their attitude, they can start fresh. Personally I think it should be removed completely as all it does is cause arguments, discourage people from posting what they truly feel and eventually discourages people from using the forum altogether. Im sure this was exactly the sort of thing you didnt want tus to promote MI!

I havent even bothered mentioning the ABUSE of the karma system which everyone is well aware of. This is already reason alone to remove it completely or set up another system. Someone mentioned removing smite and only having +. That sounds good to me, at least its a vast improvement from what we have now.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: avirex on September 13, 2011, 02:20 PM
didnt you already make that exact speech nail?


i guess the real question is, why does everyone care so much about the karma?
Title: Re: karma
Post by: NAiL on September 13, 2011, 02:22 PM
-1
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Peja on September 13, 2011, 02:26 PM
well nail, i have a neg karma, and i say dont care to much of it. your right pos karma dont reflect your personality  or behavior, but neg karma obviously does. show me one person with neg karma who did not annoy some people with his or her behavior.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: dienadel85 on September 13, 2011, 02:32 PM
wow, my karma is +4  :D
Title: Re: karma
Post by: GreatProfe on September 13, 2011, 02:46 PM
Nail, You were perfect in your viewpoint.

As I promise to myself, i ll not complaint about karma anymore.

Naturally, the neg karma isnt a 9/11 for ne1. But some ppl here want to help, to have fun and to make TUS better. Its annoying when others ppl dont understand this and smite You deliberatelly. Smart ppl can to be censured (and They will feel this way)  because when They post, a smite rain happens.

I keep thinkin about or delete the KS or delete the Smite feat.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 13, 2011, 04:48 PM
check my yesterdays posts, because I have received -6 for them already...

you suck haters
Title: Re: karma
Post by: THeDoGG on September 13, 2011, 08:30 PM
NAiL your a probably right, but its no true all the time, all this started with the "karma war".

But sometimes karma is kind of relevant of the attitude of a player, and this not even only on TuS forums but in wormnet also.
For example, look at Maciej. He always had a negative karma! from what I remember at least..  :-\

And no Maciej, it's not about "hate", it's about letting you know that you should maybe think of changing your attitude ;)

For example the attitude of always complaining for nothing won't give you a good karma !
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Maciej on September 13, 2011, 08:46 PM
ye, my each post is a complain...   Oo
Title: Re: karma
Post by: nino on September 14, 2011, 02:49 AM
MI Should remove this karma system asap, sure it is fun sometimes like it was with komo but anyway komo got it in a good way, but this karma stuff nowadays is just separating peoples and since we are a small community it is not good. Of course there are some disagree, but if i dont like you i just think with myself "aaaa morre diabo"instead of be clicking in some button and the person gotta be guessing who the f@#! smited him or her, listen to me MI if u want long life for tus, remove this karma system asap.

Iam the one who is not posting much anymore in here because of it, i kinda know my away and if iam in a place where i know iam not welcome, i just leave and go to have fun where peoples likes my presence, and listen u r reading this from one of the most popular and cool wormer, i can imagine as others can feel, this just sucks.

Bye ae.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: Kaleu on September 14, 2011, 03:09 AM
+1.

Everyone care with our Karma, it's fact.
Title: Re: karma
Post by: avirex on September 14, 2011, 03:34 AM
-1 sniper...


yeah, nino made a good post...i  still say to keep karma, i have too much fun with it...

but yeah, ppl get so depressed... before there is a worms suicide, lets just end the karma
Title: Re: karma
Post by: THeDoGG on September 14, 2011, 06:44 AM
lol nino, funny one! how did you had this high karma ???
Title: Re: karma
Post by: DumbBongChow on September 14, 2011, 08:43 AM
Ok everyone here's a very interesting question?

What is karma system in tus site?
1. A reflection how good a member's attitude is. (Around half true in my opinion.)
2. Interesting element of this site that may help people to have better attitude. (Deinitely does not always work, and it can have an opposite effect.)
3. A system which reflects how many people like or dislike what a player is doing in a whole sum. (Probably the best one.)
(Some people dislike what another player is doing for a very bad reason which is always a major problem.)
4. Something not to be taken serious of. (I guess this largely depends on each person, and I ACTUALLY DON'T MIND IF THEY CARE. [SO WHAT IF THEY CARE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T SPOUT MINDLESS COMMENTS, IT SHOULD BE FINE.])
5. System which favors or disfavors certain type of people. (This system work like democracy after all.)
[The majority's or reputation spammer's applaud and smite stand out the most which is a very bad sign as people should applaud or smite other solely based on whether they did something good or bad.]

Problems: (Primarily saying this to say karma system DEFINITELY needs least some fix.)
1. Every logical part NaiL points out on, but I'm not into karma resets as that also wipes out benefits of the karma system. Check #3 for alternate solution. I also don't believe ONLY benefit for this is for selfish pleasure. I actually believe effectiveness Karma system's problems LARGELY LIES ON HOW IT IS REGUALTED!
2. Since some ppl are very nice or mean and does not post any in tus website, karma system becomes rather useless in this case as ppl can only applaud or smite on ones who have posted. (I believe this should be fixed as people speak out their minds in wormnet as well.)
3. There should be a cap how much a member can smite (NOT APPLAUD) another member. (Which help drastically fixes major exaggerated negative reputation problem.)
(Smite spammer can lower player's reputation by 14 EACH WEEK at most with a current rule.)

Botton Line:
Guess my point is we should never alter judgement BECAUSE OF PERSON'S REPUTATION, and we should try to strictly applauded or smite based on what GOOD and BAD things they actually DO if we actually plan on keeping karma system. We should also resist SPAM SMITE on people as that itself is rather unfair, but we shouldn't worry much about this if MonkeyIsland follows my claim from the third problem. My position regarding karma system is either have a effective, well-regulated system or actually take this system out of this site.

BTW..., I think JayX should post a comment here since he's the VOICE OF REASON. o_0
Title: Re: karma
Post by: TheKomodo on September 14, 2011, 11:21 AM
Its also near impossible for people with seriously negative karma to climb back up, even if they change their ways.
I take the example of crash, sure he acted dumb sometimes.... but for the last year or so he has been perfectly fine and his karma is not fair. Even if people do change their attitude, the community doesnt care enough to raise their karma in acknowledgement.

You are totally right about Crash mate, since he quit doH he's been really cool, not to mention a really skilled opponent.

I think TuS forums and Wnet are completely seperate, I rarely argue with people when actually playing, I occasionally get the odd "random person" who is just the same person with diff names login and go "get a life" and just leave, it's got to the point where I just join in and sing it out along with him make him feel better xD Quite sad to imagine the excitement on his face as he gets home from school or whatever in desperation and in a rush to do that one thing, prolly sits and plays with himself while he does it, but anyway most of the people who "hate me" on forums actually "act" quite nice to me online so I doubt they care THAT much.