The Ultimate Site of Worms Armageddon
Worms: Armageddon => Promotion Project => Topic started by: Hussar on January 21, 2013, 11:04 PM
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Hey everyone,
TUS should be helpfull for this project. MI could make (if this is possible) some good features for streaming.
- Some calendar for exampleof streaming games
- which comenattors are able to comenatte games in which time
- what games are streaming now
etc...
wecan give some ideas and this topic should be good platform to comunicate with MI about this.
if am wrong, just delete !
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Tus is still a league site. I know guys you all got used to it, but this is not what newcomer need.
I think we need promotion page. Very simple design, easy to remember site name and domain with feature of importing games, so people will be able to watch replays and learn, info about coming streams, simple forum without registration so every guest can ask for help. Just a short sitename but it contain all info, so we can share link everywhere, raise popularity will be much easier if we make it as start page, page that links to app other stuff
Believe me if the guy who never played worms open tus site he will close it next moment just like I did when I was newcomer and one guy link me to this site
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Tus is still a league site. I know guys you all got used to it, but this is not what newcomer need.
I think we need promotion page. Very simple design, easy to remember site name and domain with feature of importing games, so people will be able to watch replays and learn, info about coming streams, simple forum without registration so every guest can ask for help. Just a short sitename but it contain all info, so we can share link everywhere, raise popularity will be much easier if we make it as start page, page that links to app other stuff
Believe me if the guy who never played worms open tus site he will close it next moment just like I did when I was newcomer and one guy link me to this site
agreed.
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100% of the simple introduction but how it's made, I guess it's up to MI.
But MI is supporting this project, have no doubt about it.
Could you give your thoughts MI
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Tus is still a league site. I know guys you all got used to it, but this is not what newcomer need.
I think we need promotion page. Very simple design, easy to remember site name and domain with feature of importing games, so people will be able to watch replays and learn, info about coming streams, simple forum without registration so every guest can ask for help. Just a short sitename but it contain all info, so we can share link everywhere, raise popularity will be much easier if we make it as start page, page that links to app other stuff
Believe me if the guy who never played worms open tus site he will close it next moment just like I did when I was newcomer and one guy link me to this site
Yes TUS's major activity is its leagues but TUS never was meant to be a league site and judging by the various non-league stuff it supports, it is not "just a league site".
Your idea sounds good and fair. A few to points to consider:
- It is out of my hands. At least on those words in red. So the solution is that you guys start it on your own.
- I don't think a simple site would work. If I want to join a community or get involved with something, I'd like to see the crowd. I'd like to see that the thing I'm getting involve into, has enough enthusiasts and I won't be alone. TUS gives me that, when I visit, there are stuff all over the place and it gives me the impression that they are busy enough. But maybe that's just me.
- TUS although seems complicated, it is very much flexible. For example, if you want to share TUS link but you don't want people to get bothered with default design, you can add theme parameter on any page you want:
https://www.tus-wa.com/?theme=3 will open up TUS in elegant design.
You can add language parameter on the fly too:
https://www.tus-wa.com/?theme=3;language=russian-utf8
That being said, it is possible to design custom pages on TUS. You can filter out stuff you don't like.
So in conclusion, you can design your "simple website", add that design to TUS, add your home page stuff and create a deep-link to that stuff. voila!. Also possible to have aliases for deep-linking, tus-wa.com/?theme=3;language=danish-utf8;filter=impossible_settings => tus-wa.com/our_streaming_channel
Closing my rambling,
I am currently busy in my personal life. As always I'd do my best to help you guys. If you want to have this project outside, it is totally fine with me, I just can't help you as much if you're outside, since that will be out of my range.
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Simple theme for newbies.
Newbie league for beginners, shouldn't require too much tweaking with your code, or does it MonkeyIsland? We as community could work with the external stuff (schemes, rules etc.) and modify it for the best we can.
Current moderators would be okay to help out with that or is it too much work? I also would like to help with moderating the newbie league.
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There could be maybe a popup window if the stream is active, or is that too violent?
Maybe it would be good having a "Get Started" link (or if you are watching the site first time then a popup window with a "skip" opportunity as well), where we could explain the main features of the site creatively (like 1001 excuses book on wnl site for example). (A guide book) It could contain steps like 1st: choose your language and the other steps would come in his/her own language. Firstly I was thinking about a video for this, but I think this would be easier to realize and more user-friendly. And TUS is changing continuously so for example when TEL league gets a break then we could just inactivate the page about TEL of the guide book. ;) And finally I think we could make this only for the main theme of the site because if the user knows about the features then he will presumably find them with other theme too.
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when I said simple I had in mind friendly interface, things like holywars about scheme changes, or news about allround league on tus doesnt give interest for newcomer, why I want this page outside tus its just because it will work as link on advertising post and forums.
Imagine you gonna promote WA, if you link people to tus: they'll watch some games, travel around stats, maybe even find rules and check out how popular forum is, and if they figure out how global it is.. maybe they'll get interest and try to get involved into league.
if you link people to streaming: they'll watch stream, so there is chance they will open it once again next time
you can also link them to worms2d.info so they read hystory of 2d worms, or wormtube so people will check out some awesome moves but its not what we advertising worms for. We want raise the size of our community, means we need page for people to give, which contain all of the needed info to start playing. I dont think we should make tus even more complex if we want something for newcomers
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There should be a separate promotion page. It's easy to make a subdomain like promo.tus-wa.com. You can place the most interesting info there, basic instructions, etc. And a link to tus of course :)
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Simple and effective idea Statik, and from promo page you would be directed to the most simple theme there is currently/someone can create.
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What about creating infographic for the promo page (showing community numbers, did you knows, explaining basics, quick tips) or at least design it as such?
They are pretty popular and what's most important they're kept in a clean, easy to follow design, perfect for newbies.
It could be interactive to link to various elements of tus etc, you get the idea.
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good brainstorming going on here.
i'd suggest this:
a new sub-domain (great idea statik). since MI is very busy someone else can design it (who is good with web design?). i'd make a clear homepage with big images and descriptions, with every image and description linked to every WA related site like worms2d, the official t17 forum and update page, NNN, with all explained in a very clear way. a link to our streaming page and youtube channel, and with an embed video with the tutorials and some vids with immediate demonstrations, cool moves, and stuff.
we should create some subforums tho, the discussions are getting hot here and as peja told me things are starting to appear confusing for everyone. ill try to keep some order from now.
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could be awesome to see a small object in top of page who will show when stram is going LIVE.
for example just a block with [stream: OFF] [stream: LIVE]
and there could be link for stream channel.
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I'm a webdeveloper and I will code the project. If nobody here is up for designing it then I could possibly get us a webdesiger, a retired wormer and my brother - hicks, however I don't know his time schedule.
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Ok, let's ask MI.
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It's OK by me. Give me a new design the way you want and I'll implement it.
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Not sure if it's a good topic, but the update of the small news section caught my eye a moment before:
(http://i.imgur.com/IAjEMiR.png)
In my opinion, it's the perfect place to spread news about events such as recent important games or upcoming streams. But it has to be updated more often, maybe it should be possible to hire a moderator for this?
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Not sure if it's a good topic, but the update of the small news section caught my eye a moment before:
(http://i.imgur.com/IAjEMiR.png)
In my opinion, it's the perfect place to spread news about events such as recent important games or upcoming streams. But it has to be updated more often, maybe it should be possible to hire a moderator for this?
THIS. Best idea in awhile. As this is the pre-eminent worms site with the most traffic, its only natural that stream info goes on the front page. TUS is the face of worms armageddon, whether the haters like it or not. It's never updated though, a few days ago I saw the franz-cueshark TRL playoffs up there, that happened what.....6 months ago?
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I tried asking him about this back then Sept 2012 but got no response, though he probably missed it:
Dulek wins TRL TTRR season 9! (https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-general/dulek-wins-trl-ttrr-season-9-17166/msg140135/#msg140135)
home page access only to you MI? do you want others to help you update that part?
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That was a thing on homepage bugging me for a long time. Because it was tied to some other part I had to code first. Anyway, I have automatized homepage, now those boxes can be update more often by people having permissions. (like franz)
The language part of TUS is ready too, so the texts goes into homepage can be translated as well.
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No posts in 8 days.. don't tell me you're all giving up that easy!
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Nope, not giving up, atleast myself. We definately need to think of new ways to approach this. Spamming forums didn't work out, orange is busy with girl so streaming has been pretty much off-line, so more streamers would be needed.
I sent a very important e-mail to T17 PR person 3 weeks ago through Cybershadow and still no answer and what I heard through the grapevine, theres some "inside politics" that are messed up or summin, but definately no answer considering legal issues which is the most important thing for me if I want to invest money on this project to try and make it "boom" faster.
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I sent a very important e-mail to T17 PR person 3 weeks ago through Cybershadow and still no answer and what I heard through the grapevine, theres some "inside politics" that are messed up or summin, but definately no answer considering legal issues which is the most important thing for me if I want to invest money on this project to try and make it "boom" faster.
That's just .... sad.
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Word
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project dead ? :(
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Seems to be. We could do with a different "official" streamer, though :) orange doesn't have time to do it.
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ISP upload rate is so important when streaming, maybe someday if my setup improves I'd do it more. Orange's was great, but I can understand him leaving it.
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Yeah, if someone is interested in streaming it would be great.