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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Maciej on August 18, 2010, 12:40 AM
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and more precisely about finger roll and 2 keys
why am I making this topic? Because today I got called lame again
I want to explain you why using 2 spaces is not cheat and why I do that, so:
I started to play worms long time ago (maybe 6 years or even longer), at start I played only inters offline, because I didn't have internet. Those times I didn't even know that you can shot rope twice!
On wwp I met m0nk, who got amazing fast tap, it looked briliance for me, so I decided I will get same one day, he told me that he used finger roll...
And here the story starts, in january 2008 I moved on w:a and in february I started to try FR. It was f@#!ing hard (I will not explain what was my way of trainig, because it's not place for it, or I can if anybody really wants, just write it in comments), but after 3-4 months I got it! Those were times when I didn't know any league, have never played any, and just didn't care about them.
I started to play on 1, typical, big space, and while that I called other players using 2 spaces cheaters, why..? Because I was jealous about their fast tap, thought it's not normal, and that it's hard to play on 2 keys. After 9 months I moved on 2 spaces because:
- playing fr on 1 space is uncomfortable, space is still down while you want to press it using another finger, when you use 1 finger, you have still your finger on space, here it works another way
- potentially you can't get faster tap using 2 spaces, because if you press 2 at once it blocks you (like keylock)
- there are kbs with 2 spaces on them (yes, they have 2 space keys, instead of 1), but not everyone is that rich to buy best stuffs just only for silly game, so it shouldn't work like that money = better potential
- 2 spaces have always been allowed as I can remember, have never heard that it was forbridden in any league
- it's not forbidden by t17 too, because I tried to play in other games using remapped space and it didn't work (for example 'icy tower')
Well, I remember player who had arrows under 'wasd' in worms
I wanted to write more things about, but I don't remember now...
Just wanted to say that finger roll is really hard thechnique, if anybody has ever tried it, he knows it
I'M PROUD OF MY FINGER ROLL, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET TIMING WHICH I HAVE NOW, I'M NOT GONNA STOP PLAYING IT, AND EVERY IDIOT WHO CALLS ME (or other finger roller) LAME IS JUST JEALOUS NOOB
I don't wanna get a war below, so don't write stupid comments like 'you are right' or '2 spaces suck', just take it to your mind
PS imo using f8 in another place that f8 is lame, I love missing it! XD
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I just don't understand why you even listen to what other people say? I stopped reading after the third line, you do whatever the hell you want to do, they do the same.
They call you "lame" and stuff because you are better than them, that's all.
EDIT: what the biography's for?
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or then just wait the e-fart be release and shoot out them face.
you should just be proud i cant manage 1 space bar...imagine 2 hahahahaha
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I thought there was some tips or something about the fr but not your worms biography uhahah!!.....
Btw for me fr on 1 spacebar is pure taps art! and 2 keys tttsss... is just for handicap but i dont say cheater. Another thing, the spacebar have something that 2keys not have.. :P
And maciej I see you like a child for what u have say here..
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I don't know who you are or what the deal is. But if you are going to post a rant like that why bother posting saying not to make comments below?
My honest opinion has always been, any kind of remapping of the keys to play the game is lame. I don't doubt that it takes a little time to get used to doing a finger roll obviously changing any piece of your game is going to make it hard to get used to. Play the game how it is. There is an obvious advantage to have two keys bound as a space bar. Do I care enough to call somebody out on it...No. I do however have way more respect to the people that don't do stuff like that, macro's, etc.
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Well... IMO, you rope the way you can rope. Doesn't matter if you use 2 space bars, 1, or remapped key.
I rope with Ctrl cause all of my keyboards were shitty, and they wouldn't allow me to press 2 arrows + space bar at the same time. So Ctrl was my solution. And thanks to the remapper I didn't quit WA even earlier. Does that make me a cheater ? Don't think so. If you find it better to rope with 2 keys, then just do it. Is it impossible to tap as fast with just 1 space bar ? No. So there's no reason for all the complaining about it.
People should worry more about their own skill and let others play the way they want to play, as long you're not taking advantage of anyone.
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D: again.....
Maciej, my young friend, there was small discussion in my topic created few month ago... Also i beated u under alias one time just cuz u not get the finish line so..
I started to try FR
better to try some control aeeee!
cheers
btw n tap ne`way
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Why can't people understand that it is not the taps that make you rope good, it's practise and learning how the rope actually works, using the arrows is where the skill is, not the spacebar, so people can use every other key on their keyboard as a spacebar I don't care because its all about what they do with the arrows that counts...
I use 2 spacebars for warmers, and left control for normal ropers (3 key lock with spacebar) and as strato said, I ain't wasting money to find a keyboard that allows 3 keys when I can use a free downloadable program and change the button that enables the ninja rope, it doesn't make me any better a roper, just stops me from getting beeped at when trying to rope...
Macros are lame, a gamepad is lame, but keychangers are NOT lame imo.
Maciej, ignore all the haters, if you are happy, then just get on with it...
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3 pages of solid discussion about tapping styles. (http://forum.team17.com/showthread.php?t=41349) Worthy reading. :)
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There is an obvious advantage to have two keys bound as a space bar.
But you forgot that started to control FR well is very hard, so I don't see your 'obvious advantage' :)
I do however have way more respect to the people that don't do stuff like that, macro's, etc.
I have never used any macro, and I call ppl using them cheaters.
IN 2 SPACES IT'S STILL EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR TIMING, if you miss space it doesn't react, if you press both at once, it doesn't react, like the 1 space, so it's not changing possibilites of game.
Also i beated u under alias one time just cuz u not get the finish line so..
I guess you mean your alias? Because I have never joined WN under other nick. And who cares about trainings? It wasn't league for sure, because you couldn't beat me there yet I guess.
I started to try FR
better to try some control aeeee!
I got some control, what you can watch in TUS challanges, can you beat me?
I ain't wasting money to find a keyboard that allows 3 keys when I can use a free downloadable program and change the button that enables the ninja rope
That's it
Thx for nice words about FR there
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Why can't people understand that it is not the taps that make you rope good, it's practise and learning how the rope actually works, using the arrows is where the skill is, not the spacebar.
Absolutely agree with this, and also the timing is important, wether or not you use multiple spacebars or whatever.
This is why I hate to see younger players all "macro'd up" and doing w2w warmers and just tapping like crazy, no skill in that, though people still see some fun in it or try to show off. :) Well it's not bothering me, it's just strange.
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Awww man nice to see at least for the new skoolers the days haven't changed. Still cheater shout outs and arguing about rope methods.
+1 goes to Komo cuz f@#! taps dude. The control of your arrow keys means everything. If you can combine both control and taps you will automatically rope godlike. That's what RR trys to teach you. You must have control to rope fast there otherwise it won't work going fast.
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Maciej, yesterday i too was called of noobs and macro users. :o Then someone aliased me on wn. Lol. Maybe that was the same person.
Ah.. no one will take from me happines of 2 space fingerrolling. :D I was so glad when i learned it 5 years ago on W:WP :)
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Maciej, yesterday i too was called of noobs and macro users. :o Then someone aliased me on wn. Lol. Maybe that was the same person.
Ah.. no one will take from me happines of 2 space fingerrolling. :D I was so glad when i learned it 5 years ago on W:WP :)
So in 5 years of practicing FR technique can you rope a ttrr map quicker using FR than single space tapping?
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i have start use fr 7 months ago.. 8)
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Of course yes Cue. I forgot how to tap by one space. ~~ (Did I mention my 3 years break? :p) But in rr I simply don't use fast taps because its better to do huge scrolls which are more effective. :)
IMO, Komo got point here. Anyway I got used to fr, its a way more comfortable now.
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Of course yes Cue. I forgot how to tap by one space. ~~ (Did I mention my 3 years break? :p) But in rr I simply don't use fast taps because its better to do huge scrolls which are more effective. :)
IMO, Komo got point here. Anyway I got used to fr, its a way more comfortable now.
;O
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I have never used any macro, and I call ppl using them cheaters.
IN 2 SPACES IT'S STILL EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR TIMING, if you miss space it doesn't react, if you press both at once, it doesn't react, like the 1 space, so it's not changing possibilites of game.
I wasn't actually aware that it wouldn't react if both were down at once I've never personally tried it myself. Since that is the case then it I can understand it being legit.
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I have same feeling like skime, I can't play using 1 finger anymore, guess it would be such a long way back to 1 finger, as get finger roll. Since february 2008 I haven't used 1 finger for roping. I use finger roll even in t17!
I saw my alias 2 times, 1 of them was guy who I got on badly in the game before (thanks to MI), and another one few days ago... I will talk about it to someone.
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I'M PROUD OF MY FINGER ROLL, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET TIMING WHICH I HAVE NOW, I'M NOT GONNA STOP PLAYING IT, AND EVERY IDIOT WHO CALLS ME (or other finger roller) LAME IS JUST JEALOUS NOOB
lmfao... thats the funniest thing i have ever seen on this forum, mind if put it as my quote at the bottom of each post?
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Maciej, most people who would deny 2 spaces being legit aren't jealous noobs, in fact most are probably old school pros who could care less about taps. And comments like 'one space is harder to learn' aren't reasons for the legitimacy of 2 spaces, since you could also say a macro program is easier to learn.
Also, I would have to say that using any external programs, or even kbs with 2 spaces, would have been almost unanimously frowned upon not long ago. But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards, in leagues or otherwise, I can't say that people who adopted 2 spaces were really going against any standard ruling they could've known about. Which is the main argument I used to have, thinking 2-space users were going against community-accepted rules, but really we never made those rules ironclad in any way.
Anyway, I'm okay with saying 2 spaces is legal, though I have more respect for people who learn the harder way, on one space.
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Also, I would have to say that using any external programs, or even kbs with 2 spaces, would have been almost unanimously frowned upon not long ago.
+1 and I keep thinking it.
Anyway, the time needed to get a high speed is lesser with taps than normal roping.
But doing taps is just about skills, so be proud of yours and don't listen to the whiners (if you use only the real spacebar for sure).
PS: Maciej, stop making such threads. <.<
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why is it so funny avi? Just because you don't like 2 spaces? nice argument
huh Mab, believe me that using 2 spaces is not that easy, really hard to get it with good timing, and good timing is fast tap.
as I said 1 space is still down while you want to press it other time, you can't feel it properly, and if you use only 1 finger you have it always near the space, other finger rollers know what I'm talking about for sure ;)
and as I said too, I used to play my FR on 1 space for 9 MONTHS and I found it as no sense
uh sorry for my english, I can not always say exactly what I wish, hope you understand me guys, I try my best!
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when did i say i dont like 2 spaces? i can care less what u do... im an old schooler... i use arrows, and A space bar, but if u choose to do anything different go head... no need for a huge post about it, tbh
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Maciej, most people who would deny 2 spaces being legit aren't jealous noobs, in fact most are probably old school pros who could care less about taps. And comments like 'one space is harder to learn' aren't reasons for the legitimacy of 2 spaces, since you could also say a macro program is easier to learn.
Also, I would have to say that using any external programs, or even kbs with 2 spaces, would have been almost unanimously frowned upon not long ago. But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards, in leagues or otherwise, I can't say that people who adopted 2 spaces were really going against any standard ruling they could've known about. Which is the main argument I used to have, thinking 2-space users were going against community-accepted rules, but really we never made those rules ironclad in any way.
Anyway, I'm okay with saying 2 spaces is legal, though I have more respect for people who learn the harder way, on one space.
Whilst I agree with most of your post, I disagree that one space is harder. I think worrying about 2 fingers on 2 spaces, or 2 fingers on one space is much harder.
As for Maciej's post. I don't see a problem with him ranting about something he cares passionately about. From his perspective he has learned a skill which he is proud of and instead of respect he is getting people call him lame. That would piss me off too.
I think it comes down to the fact that some people, especially when they lose, find any excuse to put down their opponent rather than accept defeat graciously. If they see fr taps they will probably call you a lame cheat because it makes them feel better and it gives them something to blame for their loss other than their lack of skill. Don't worry about it man.
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Maciej, most people who would deny 2 spaces being legit aren't jealous noobs, in fact most are probably old school pros who could care less about taps. And comments like 'one space is harder to learn' aren't reasons for the legitimacy of 2 spaces, since you could also say a macro program is easier to learn.
Also, I would have to say that using any external programs, or even kbs with 2 spaces, would have been almost unanimously frowned upon not long ago. But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards, in leagues or otherwise, I can't say that people who adopted 2 spaces were really going against any standard ruling they could've known about. Which is the main argument I used to have, thinking 2-space users were going against community-accepted rules, but really we never made those rules ironclad in any way.
Anyway, I'm okay with saying 2 spaces is legal, though I have more respect for people who learn the harder way, on one space.
Whilst I agree with most of your post, I disagree that one space is harder. I think worrying about 2 fingers on 2 spaces, or 2 fingers on one space is much harder.
As for Maciej's post. I don't see a problem with him ranting about something he cares passionately about. From his perspective he has learned a skill which he is proud of and instead of respect he is getting people call him lame. That would piss me off too.
I think it comes down to the fact that some people, especially when they lose, find any excuse to put down their opponent rather than accept defeat graciously. If they see fr taps they will probably call you a lame cheat because it makes them feel better and it gives them something to blame for their loss other than their lack of skill. Don't worry about it man.
Very wise words Cue, I totally agree, I also totally disagree with Mablak:
Mablak, I am personally, along with Chicken and Avirex one of the oldest players on WA who have ALWAYS been active, so saying "But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards" is kind of wrong, just because you are one of the best, which you are undoubtly lol, sure you can influence other peoples opinions, but you can't make them on your own, just like me and BnG, people listen to me, but I don't go around making decisions on my own, I can only try to influence people, anyway:
I started out with roping, I have ALWAYS roped on 1 spacebar, until earlier this year, I spilled Vodka on my best keyboard which was a 13 year old Dell, and perfect for 2 hand taps and normal on the normal spacebar, anyway, point is, I tried finding another keyboard, I spent over £150, on about 8 different keyboards, just this year trying to find one that works, NONE of them worked perfect, some tapped fast, but 3 key lock, some had no 3 key lock but wouldn't let me tap and keep beeping me randomly for no reason.
So anyway, after spending this amount of money, and still having no luck, why should I keep buying different keyboards when I can use a keychanger? Or use 2 spacebars because 1 sucks, Having 2 spacebars on a slow crappy keyboard, is exactly the same imo to having 1 spacebar that is absolutely amazing, you tamper with your spacebar Cody, you have admitted to putting things under there, imo this is worse than just having 2 natural, untampered with spacebars, although I still think this is fine and nothing wrong with it, I think it is worse than doing something that is natural, I think they are both as bad as each other, but both acceptable and completely innocent, some keyboards come standard with 2 spaces, what keyboards come natural with crap stuck under there?
I can rope good again thanks to keychanger allowing me to use Left Control instead of the Spacebar, give me a keyboard I can rope exactly the same with on the standard spacebar, WITHOUT having to tamper with it, and i'll use it :)
With this logic, golfers shouldn't be able to do weights to help out their arms, footballers shouldn't be allowed to excercise and stretch before a match because it helps them to loosen up, rugby players shouldn't be able to weightlift to get incredibly huge to help them tackle their opponents, pool players shouldn't be allowed to use chalk to give their shot more accuracy or whatever it does, the list goes on.
These are similar examples showing that it is ok to do something to help and make it more interesting without taking away the skill-factor, using keychanger, or 2 spaces does not instantly make you awesome, it's a style people are looking for, not a cheat, and doing this, does not make them cheaters or lame, like I said before, it's the arrows thats makes the roper, not the spacebar...
Damn just realised this is a ridiculously huge post, but anyone who cares will read it all, anyway, Cody lol, I think this is the 1st time i've ever disagreed with you... :O
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Mablak, I am personally, along with Chicken and Avirex one of the oldest players on WA [...]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't avi play Worms 2 before and "upgraded" to WA in like 2004? :P
Anyway sorry for off topic, nice post Dave, a lot of truth in it.
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Mablak, I am personally, along with Chicken and Avirex one of the oldest players on WA [...]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't avi play Worms 2 before and "upgraded" to WA in like 2004? :P
Anyway sorry for off topic, nice post Dave, a lot of truth in it.
Well I thought he was playing WA before that lol, but anyway, he's been playing w2 longer than we have been playing WA so that has to count for something, right?
And thanks :)
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i use two space bars...!! ;D
i'm happy using it...;D
and mab stop this lie man...impossible tap like u with 1 space ;P
wake up!
its history for cow sleep ;D
btw....i agree with komo and cue!!
cue keep it and i still love u ;*
"cuz i'm noob...yes i'm"
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its history for cow sleep ;D
What the hell does this mean?? LOL !
Seriously, what does that mean?
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its a brazilian sentence rofl!
means a "BIG LIE"
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Dave, I think if you took a sample of opinions of the best ropers a few years ago and before, the majority of them wouldn't be okay with external programs of any kind; a lot of the NBR players for example. But I dunno if you read my post, because I'm not disagreeing, 2 spaces is legal by me. Just pointing out that Maciej simply isn't presenting the right arguments to support his views.
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Dave, I think if you took a sample of opinions of the best ropers a few years ago and before, the majority of them wouldn't be okay with external programs of any kind; a lot of the NBR players for example. But I dunno if you read my post, because I'm not disagreeing, 2 spaces is legal by me. Just pointing out that Maciej simply isn't presenting the right arguments to support his views.
I totally agree with this though :)
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hmmm NBR... Wasn't there player called mook or smth like that?? He used fr and keychanger... so if whole NBR don't accept it, how could they took him in? xD
Or maybe I missed your meaning
I read your whole post Komo :P and + for you and Cue
btw....i agree with komo and cue!!
And with me? ;S
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I think it comes down to the fact that some people, especially when they lose, find any excuse to put down their opponent rather than accept defeat graciously. If they see fr taps they will probably call you a lame cheat because it makes them feel better and it gives them something to blame for their loss other than their lack of skill.
So nicely said. You deserved your +1. .)
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its history for cow sleep ;D
What the hell does this mean?? LOL !
Seriously, what does that mean?
Actually he meant: It's a story to put oxen to sleep.
Speaking of NBR, where's Shady ?
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One spacebar for the win!
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If you look at the 2 spacebars compared with 2 dicks it really is cheating somehow XD
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WB showtime :)
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hmmm... lets ask the expert..
crazy, is 2 dicks cheating?
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I don`t know avi, I`ve only tryed one ;)
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wanna sword fight?
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My claymore is bigger :P
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hmmm NBR... Wasn't there player called mook or smth like that?? ... so if whole NBR don't accept it, how could they took him in? xD
Charm :P
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One spacebar to rule them all, one spacebar to find them,
One spacebar to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Wormnet where the wormers lie. xD
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JEDIxTHeredi the jedi? :)
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Wasn't that a quote from LOTR? :-[
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Wasn't that a quote from LOTR? :-[
yes,indeed xD (fkin gr8 movies)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rqH4fUbko2U/Rz7TQSMUPOI/AAAAAAAAFBY/LKia7Q-1JsA/s320/ring2.gif)
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Hmmm I don't think these "2 space or 1 space" arguement's will ever end. Personally I don't care if you use 2 space's, 1 space or modded space's just as long as there arn't programs pressing that notorious spacebar for you! :P
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i just made this clip ;}
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ROFL NOOB
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lmao
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I didn't know you finger rolled? Looks like you use 1 spacebar/key for it. Much props for that.
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I didn't know you finger rolled? Looks like you use 1 spacebar/key for it. Much props for that.
Because he uses 1 spacebar, so he can't use his whole potencial.
You will get better tap with 2 spaces, it could be a bit hard at start, but you will get it (it was same here). Finger roll is hard technique, so all finger roll players should be allowed to use them.
Another proof that using fr without 2 spaces is no sense :) You just lose much time for learning that, and then you can't even get faster tap, sad.
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I didn't know you finger rolled? Looks like you use 1 spacebar/key for it. Much props for that.
Another proof that using fr without 2 spaces is no sense :)
ye,look at sm0k,his taps are so slow...
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I didn't know you finger rolled? Looks like you use 1 spacebar/key for it. Much props for that.
Another proof that using fr without 2 spaces is no sense :)
ye,look at sm0k,his taps are so slow...
some1 told me that smok uses 2 spaces xD
I didn't know you finger rolled? Looks like you use 1 spacebar/key for it. Much props for that.
Another proof that using fr without 2 spaces is no sense :) You just lose much time for learning that, and then you can't even get faster tap, sad.
:) this is kinda funny , i used to play with 2 spaces , when i started to play with fr , i had a lot of tap , but some ppl started to call me cheater , ppl like you ...
i still remember that u called me cheater too many times cos u used to play with 1 space , u were telling to the whole wormnet that i was a cheater cos of my 2 spaces , even frequency ( skippa xD) told me that u were talking about me and my roping (i miss that guy :( (wooka and skippa used to pwn me everytime at TUT XD)) ... and look now , u are a hard defender of 2 spaces heheh ... as i said , funny shit :P.
when i wanted to join to nlF , mo0 ( if im righ , thats her nick) started to call me cheater , and when i joined to that comunity , she left nlf ... smoke( the french one) and statik had me as a cheater lel ( at least smoke used to play with me) ... btw , mo0 told me that mablak said we were a bunch of cheaters ( we = TaG) just after the 3rd video from TaG was released ( i would like to have that conversation , but i dont...)
well ... to many ppl called me cheater , like devilage ( but he didnt care about my 2 spaces xD) , twistah , evilone , some unknown zillians xD ,etc..
i stoped playing leagues and stuff (lw and xtc on that moment) cos of those situations , bought a new kb ( cos i broke laptop's kb xDD) and started to play with 1 spacebar...
im talking about 2 years or more ago.
it was not hard to learn with 1 space ( i already knew how to do it with 2 spaces)
and look now :D maybe my roping is not like with 2 spaces but i definitely dont think fr without 2 spaces is no sense , i pwn all those faggots ( ye, u too maciej) :D
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because in the past I used to play FR on 1 spacebar, and I have never hided that in the past I had other mind about it. I have said it many times, so don't suggest I'm liar.
And as your roper skill is better than mine for sure, I don't think you are better than me in rope race to be honest ;)
I feel free to use 2 spaces, it's hard (I mean finger roll overall), so I want to get some advantage (or faster tap at least) because of that. It's allowed, it doesn't change physics of game (and it even blocks you when you press 2 spaces at once in the same time). I would talk a lot about it but... I have said it before.
peace
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2 spaces is just for handicap peoples =)
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:) this is kinda funny , i used to play with 2 spaces , when i started to play with fr , i had a lot of tap , but some ppl started to call me cheater , ppl like you ...
i still remember that u called me cheater too many times cos u used to play with 1 space , u were telling to the whole wormnet that i was a cheater cos of my 2 spaces , even frequency ( skippa xD) told me that u were talking about me and my roping (i miss that guy :( (wooka and skippa used to pwn me everytime at TUT XD)) ... and look now , u are a hard defender of 2 spaces heheh ... as i said , funny shit :P.
when i wanted to join to nlF , mo0 ( if im righ , thats her nick) started to call me cheater , and when i joined to that comunity , she left nlf ... smoke( the french one) and statik had me as a cheater lel ( at least smoke used to play with me) ... btw , mo0 told me that mablak said we were a bunch of cheaters ( we = TaG) just after the 3rd video from TaG was released ( i would like to have that conversation , but i dont...)
well ... to many ppl called me cheater , like devilage ( but he didnt care about my 2 spaces xD) , twistah , evilone , some unknown zillians xD ,etc..
i stoped playing leagues and stuff (lw and xtc on that moment) cos of those situations , bought a new kb ( cos i broke laptop's kb xDD) and started to play with 1 spacebar...
im talking about 2 years or more ago.
it was not hard to learn with 1 space ( i already knew how to do it with 2 spaces)
and look now :D maybe my roping is not like with 2 spaces but i definitely dont think fr without 2 spaces is no sense , i pwn all those faggots ( ye, u too maciej) :D
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2 spaces is just for handicap peoples =)
thx
btw Guaton,sm0k told me that he use fr with only one space.
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whatever lol.
FR = NOOB
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it's not noob, it's very hard technique. Idiotic thinking
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lol everyone knows its noob...
ps: thanks for smiting me
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why do you claim it's noobish? It takes long time to get it, it's hard, and any noob could get it, it's obvious. You are just hater, because you can't use FR.
But nobody agrees with me, because nobody likes me, that's typical. But everybody knows it in silence ;)
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But why is a noob thing? lol
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Because TheDogg is hater who can't use FR, that's why ;)
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Its noob because it takes more skill to tap fast with 1 spacebar. Just saying.
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Finger roll on 1 spacebar takes skill, I give credit for that.
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FR on 2 spaces takes skill too. It's still FR, it doesn't really matter if you use 1 space or 2 spaces, because work of your fingers is still same.
Johnny, have you ever tried FR to say that?
I used to play FR on 1 spacebar for 9 months so I know how it is ;)
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I was just saying it's noob to get maciej mad, and it worked XD
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you haven't got me mad. I'm relaxed and controlled :)
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With 1 space bar only, you must get a "perfect" push timing to get the perfect fr.
Because you need to take care of the bar release, which is not important with 2 space bars.
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No your not mad lol. You just smite anyone with an opinion. ::)
you haven't got me mad. I'm relaxed and controlled :)
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But nobody agrees with me, because nobody likes me.
Lol pretty sad.
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Why is this thread 5 pages long? Shall every1 use what he feels most comfortable with, finger roll or one finger tap. Period. The rest is just for guys who can't respect that theres other opinions than their own.
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well said Chakk
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If chakkman was a girl I'd want to have babies with her.
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But nobody agrees with me, because nobody likes me.
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gender isnt a problem nowadays!
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gender isnt a problem nowadays!
I'm curious about an explanation. :)
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Heh I turn on ahk only when play fluffy's 1-2-3 trick race... I use fr on 2 spaces there only on last nova trick because it requires really fast taps that I don't have with my usual whole-hand-space-slappin' technique :)
I have learned finger rolling on 2 spaces because I was curious about is it really harder like some people talk and I concluded it is much easier to rope when you learn it and get comfortable with it(after one week of trying) but I noticed that it killz my style... when you can tap really fast you usually do and I like long and risky flys... fr kinda prevents me of doing that.
Anyway, fr on 1 space is pretty hard... I was trying to rope that way too but my keyboard is "Hewlett Packard" from '98 so spacebar sticks out of the keyboard 1,5 cm and that makes it even more harder(I saw that angus have pretty thin spacebar on his video). That hardness is reason why I use 2 spaces when I need really speedy taps(and that is not often)...
And ye... FR = NOOB
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Noob = Newbie => that means that someone who practiced some technique certainly is not a noob. You can call it maybe lame if you think that is, but again... I disagree with that too.
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lol mistake :X
I was put my new sign in this topic lol ...
Too much alcol..
Anyway i agree whit you chakkman ..