Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Genia-1993 on March 11, 2016, 10:49 AM
Title: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Genia-1993 on March 11, 2016, 10:49 AM
FingerRoll information by Asbest.
Most of the people doesn't even know, that wkKeyRemap.dll and wkRemapKeys.dll are absolutely different moduels. wkKeyRemap.dll ( working only with 3.6.31.0 update ) created by Steps in 2013. wkRemapKeys.dll ( working only with 3.7.2.1 ) also made by Steps, but it's a new moduel. The differents between these moduels are that when u use wkKeyRemap.dll u can hold 1 space, and press second space and second space will shot rope. wkRemapKeys.dll has block. It means when you hold 1 space, and then press second space, second space will not work. But these moduels has same tapping. You can tapping same fast with wkRemapKeys.dll as with wkKeyRemap.dll. Just look at runaway ( if his video isn't montage ), sbaffo, stylez, they can tapping same fast with wkRemapKeys.dll, as I tapping with wkKeyRemap.dll. I tried Intes keychange, other keyremapping programs, wkRemapKeys.dll, wkKeyRemap.dl, all ahk scripts, and I want to say that I can't tapping fast not with wkRemapKeys.dll, not with intes keychange, not with simple ahk scripts. Because I have bad Ukrainian kbs ( maybe a fake kbs ). That's why latinos and europian and American can tapping fast (coz they has good kbs ) with Intes Keychange, wkRemapKeys.dll and other remaping programs. I tried 7 kbs ( razer arctosa included ) I can't tap even medium with Intes keychange, wkRemapKeys.dl, simpe ahk scripts. Im fring 3 years, so i know how to fr. That means that's all about what kb u use. I can tapping fast only with hard ahk scripts ( Kaleu's, smok's, booter's scripts, whatever ) and wkKeyRemap.dll. As I said before, I tried all possible remaps, and i can say that Intes keychange, simple ahk scripts, berria script, if u hold 1 space, and then press second space, in 1st press for second space, second space will not shot rope, and the other presses it will work. So it means, that, simple ahk scripts, berria's script, Intes keychange is same as wkKeyRemap.dll and hard ahk scripts ( kaleu's, booter's, smok's ). The only different is that when u use simple ahk scripts, berria script, Intes keychange, there is block for 1 press, when wkKeyRemap.dll and hard ahk scripts ( booter's, kaleu's, smok's, zippo's) hasn't any blocks. But 1 press is nothing. You can tapping same if you use any of these moduels, scripts, programs. wkRemapKeys.dll has only full block. But that is means nothing. What sense in this block, if u can tap same fast with all this programs, moduels, scripts, if you have good, not fake kb? That's why I use wkKeyRemap.dll. Because I have bad kb. Still, wkKeyRemap.dll is allowed on tus, so I can't be a cheater. In my opinion, as I said, tus should allows any remaps. Because it all is same. I agree that only legit way is spacebar. But on my spacebar are 3 keylocks, that's why I use remaped space. If you allow remaps, allow any remaps. Or forbidden every remap. I use 3.6.31.0 for PX and wkKeyRemap.dll. In my WA 3.6.31.0 are wkKeyRemap.dll, wkLobbycheating31.dll, wkAutoKeys.dll. I use wkLobbycheating31.dll and wkAutoKeys.dll only in funners, and don't respect people who use it in league games. You should allow every ahk scripts, because its all same. I wanted to put in this massage everything to make it 100% clear, but im not sure if I did it. After I explained everything, everyone who calling cheater me, stylez, sbaffo, or adun, or someone else, just f@#!ing idiots. At the end want to say, that, I don't want to read 123412124 pages of non-sense by people as HHC and Komito, which are only making words throwing. If you write, write wise.
EDIT: I didn't hide i have ahk script which is not allowed on tus, and i used it, but im using wkKeyRemap.dll now on tus, and in funners. WkKeyRemap.dll isn't forbidden officialy on tus. It isn't cheat officialy. End of story. KeyTweak is same as intes keychange and simple ahk scripts, when u hold 1 space, and press second space, first time when u press second space, second space will not work, and the next times it will works. I roping same with 2 spaces, like with 1 space. 2 spaces just gives more taps, that is all. wkKeyRemap.dll isn't script, it is module for wormkit which is using WA code.
EDIT2: I switched to 3.7.2.1. Thinking about to use wkRemapKeys.dll ( which is officially allowed on TUS and has full block ) or simple ahk scripts ( berria's script or more simple script as "q::f8" "w::space" "e::enter" which are officially allowed on TUS too ). Im using wkRemapKeys.dll with 3.7.2.1 Worms:Armageddon version now.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: TheWalrus on March 11, 2016, 10:54 AM
jesus christ someone delete this
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Sensei on March 11, 2016, 11:20 AM
I don't want to read 123412124 pages of non-sense by people as HHC and Komito, which are only making words throwing. If you write, write wise.
Oh boy.. this is pure gold!
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Rabbzz on March 11, 2016, 11:22 AM
Hold one space down, click second space. If it works it is banned simple as that. Im 100% after watching you rope you are using scripts/cheats that are not allowed.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: xSniperx on March 11, 2016, 12:06 PM
And 1 point go's to Belarus
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Chelsea on March 11, 2016, 12:11 PM
I also like spam ;D
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: ANO on March 11, 2016, 12:57 PM
Asbetsbshmisha
UHAUHAHAU
What a waste of time, luckily I didn't read everything
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Husk on March 11, 2016, 01:02 PM
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm f@#!ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Sbaffo on March 11, 2016, 01:35 PM
There's a reason if you can't tap as fast as me:
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Post by: Kradie on March 11, 2016, 01:52 PM
I use one spacebar and arrows. It's the classic way 8)
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: WTF-8 on March 11, 2016, 03:00 PM
hmm @ an information thread only having whining instead of information typical assbeast ;)
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: KungPow on March 11, 2016, 05:12 PM
WA will always have ppl who use macros, scripts, crate spies... Fighting against it will not solve anything. But you can always make fun of those cheating losers. :)
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: theredi on March 13, 2016, 03:25 AM
Quote from: Husk on March 11, 2016, 01:02 PM I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm f@#!ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: nino on March 13, 2016, 03:57 AM
someone show that thread to Maciej please!
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Husk on March 13, 2016, 09:11 AM
good link redi xD
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: j0e on March 13, 2016, 10:01 AM
If while holding one space bar, you can press a second spacebar and it fires, you're cheating. End of story.
Your whole argument (that simple = hard ahk) boils down to your assertion that "one press is nothing". Well that is bullshit. If you "remapped" every key to a spacebar with your scripts, you could mash every key at once and have god-like taps.
In my opinion, having more than one spacebar is lame to begin with. Finger roll is supposed to be with one space.
PS. What kind of dumbass buys 7 fake keyboards?
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: theredi on March 13, 2016, 10:25 PM
Your whole argument (that simple = hard ahk) boils down to your assertion that "one press is nothing". Well that is bullshit. If you "remapped" every key to a spacebar with your scripts, you could mash every key at once and have god-like taps.
In my opinion, having more than one spacebar is lame to begin with. Finger roll is supposed to be with one space.
true as f...inger xD i agree with that
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: j0e on March 13, 2016, 11:04 PM
StepS said himself that wkKeyRemap is against TUS rules. https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/wa-v3-7-0-0-released-18662/60/?wap2
Quote from: StepSwe can't release it until it meets TUS's platinum standards and we could not find a way to block a press. so say thanks to TUS rules, and primarily Maciej
wkKeyRemap was not updated because StepS couldn't find a way to block the second space bar. When he found a way, he released RemapKeys. Using wkKeyRemap is cheating.
Furthermore, having a 3-key lock doesn't affect tap speed. With arrows held down, space either works or it doesn't.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Maciej on March 13, 2016, 11:46 PM
I used simply intes keychanger for a long time. Then I moved to wkKeyRemap because it was more comfortable (because I still was able to write z and x where I had spaces). Then I discovered it's a cheat (after over a year!) and when I moved back to simply remapper I just couldn't play. It's a huge different beetwen simple remapper and this cheat. When you move from simple remapper to this cheat you don't feel difference, but it's hard to move back. Your taps become messy. I stopped playing because of this. It was horrible. I felt like beginner and missed every other tap. I was just trying to play offline and it's possible to come back, but I'm not that good anymore because of inactivity.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Sensei on March 14, 2016, 03:46 AM
Quote from: Maciej on March 13, 2016, 11:46 PM I used simply intes keychanger for a long time. Then I moved to wkKeyRemap because it was more comfortable (because I still was able to write z and x where I had spaces). Then I discovered it's a cheat (after over a year!) and when I moved back to simply remapper I just couldn't play. It's a huge different beetwen simple remapper and this cheat. When you move from simple remapper to this cheat you don't feel difference, but it's hard to move back. Your taps become messy. I stopped playing because of this. It was horrible. I felt like beginner and missed every other tap. I was just trying to play offline and it's possible to come back, but I'm not that good anymore because of inactivity.
So, when things got tough and you needed to do it fair way, you just quit!? :)
I also roped on a cheat ahk script for more than a year (unaware). Practically learned to rope with that shit. Until someone pointed out it's a cheat. It didn't felt so hard to leave it behind. Yeah, you kinda got feeling like learning basics all over again, but at least there's satisfaction that no-one will ever could call you a cheater again.
Btw, this is asbest in worms group few days ago:
[8.3.2016. 20:34:53] xLegendx: wkKeyRemap.dll and wkRemapKeys.dll are absolutely different moduels
Aaaand.... 20 minutes after he figured out he admitted cheating:
[8.3.2016. 20:52:53] xLegendx: so im using 2 spaces with wkKeyRemap.dll its legit [8.3.2016. 20:53:08] xLegendx: and its same as wkRemapKeys.dll
Was pretty hilarious :D
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Maciej on March 14, 2016, 12:12 PM
I used to play clanners and since I couldn't rope how would I do that? I played offline to come back.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: MaStEr on March 14, 2016, 01:14 PM
1 finger is best xD
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: StepS on March 14, 2016, 03:19 PM
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: AduN on March 16, 2016, 01:37 AM
I'm using Intes Keychange with 2 spacebars remapped, and life is good. ::)
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: ANO on March 18, 2016, 08:32 PM
smiting macjiejeij ... so good
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Genia-1993 on March 19, 2016, 06:37 PM
EDITED, see the first post.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: j0e on March 19, 2016, 07:44 PM
Genia-1993 has been banned from TUS for abuse of English language.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Genia-1993 on March 28, 2016, 08:21 PM
EDITED2, read the first post.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Sensei on March 28, 2016, 08:26 PM
He won against sock in some cup using cheat module (wk_KeyRemap on 3.6.31.0).. And after he figured I could report him to mods, decided for "fast switch" on 3.7.2.1.
It's never boring with Asby!
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: XanKriegor on March 29, 2016, 06:18 AM
He is trying to be white and fluffy from time to time but usually fail not long after))
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: ANO on March 29, 2016, 07:28 AM
what is the point? guess nobody has complained about his shitty tapping, no?!
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: Sensei on March 29, 2016, 07:53 AM
No point. We just want consigliere Genia to keep editing 1st post and give us newest info from Asby.
Title: Re: FingerRoll information by Asbest
Post by: TheWalrus on March 29, 2016, 08:03 AM