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Title: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on February 10, 2017, 01:46 AM
I have never been very computer smart, anyone who knows me would agree. I would love to get a new laptop so I could play w:a again. My problem is I have very little expendible money (mortgage, truck payments, etc etc) and I have no idea what to buy. I would like the cheapest laptop possible to play w:a. What would be the best option on bestbuy.ca?

Thanks in advance
Dub-c
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheKomodo on February 10, 2017, 04:52 AM
 What's your budget(most you will spend)?
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: j0e on February 10, 2017, 05:19 AM
What screen size do you want? How important is portability - will it spend most of its time hooked up to a monitor and external kb/mouse? Want to play any other games?

If youre still in canada you should get a refurbished laptop from bauer systems, which is in the gta. Best prices anywhere and quality stuff. New deals are added all the time. I bought my laptop there and got a steal of a deal. Shipping is about $12. http://www.bauersystems.com/price-list.html
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheWalrus on February 10, 2017, 06:27 AM
im selling my computer

6700k i7
120gb SSD
32gb memory

send me an offer
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheKomodo on February 10, 2017, 07:56 AM
Also when you come back, join our clan :)
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Tomi on February 10, 2017, 08:53 AM
Wow Walrus, that sounds a massive pc/laptop, why did you need 32 gb of memory? :D

Dub-c, the most important is to buy a laptop that runs Windows (and not Android), the other components will be enough for wa :)
Another question is whether you will play on an external keyboard or not. If not then you need to risk a little (I suppose you can't try it out before) if it will be convenient and won't have key lags. I write that because on my old Toshiba notebook I can't play w:a with the keys I am used to, because they have weird lags.. however when I replace keys to x and z then it works ok.

About brands:
Unfortunately it seems that the manufacturer of a notebook matters a lot. My Toshiba has that weird kb bug, but it seems to be indestructible. As I see Asus produces really cheap chinese products: my sister had 2 Asus laptops, both died in about 2 years and the brand new Asus laptop of my boss is dieing already with blue screens. HP: i don't know their newest products, but HP was famous of how much it heated and how loud it was. Lenovo: sooner it was said that it had the best keyboard after macbook, but nowadays it seems like not. I know 2 people who is using Lenovo laptops and keys are jumping out, so roping on it might not be a good idea. Acer: it was the cheap and low quality laptop back then and it is still cheap usually, but I heard they developed, but I have never used one so I don't know about them.

So to sum up, I guess unfortunately every brands have pros and cons too. Personally I would not go for Asus (and maybe Lenovo neither) :/

About the components:
I guess you will use the pre-installed windows on the laptop, so it will be Windows 10 and it requires at least 4gb of memory to run smooth (I guess you can't even buy a new laptop with less memory anyway, but if yes, then don't get it ;)). SSD is a very fast thing to store your data and it will make your laptop really very fast, but it is more expensive than a HDD so you will get less space for the same price. There are on besbuy.ca some laptops with really little SSDs, which might be fast, but I guess not enough to store movies for example. Usually the biggest SSD you can get for a low price is 120GB. If that's not enough for you then you should go for a 500GB or 1TB HDD. For CPU i would go for Intel: AMD is unfortunately far behind of Intel in technology. So there are Intel Celeron, Pentium, i3, i5 and i7 processors which will define the price of the laptop the most. Celeron and Pentium ones are kinda slow, but for w:a enough, however you shouldn't expect any miracle from those: windows might not response fast sometimes.


That was just a basic knowledge which is good to know before buying a laptop. We need to know your budget to recommend you one.


ps.: If I was incorrect somewhere then feel free to correct me, coz I don't want to give bad advices :)
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Triad on February 10, 2017, 08:55 AM
Do you absolutely need laptop or will you be fine with desktop too? Building a desktop PC is much cheaper than buying a laptop so unless you absolutely need portability of a laptop I will help you to get best bang for buck desktop build for your budget.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Korydex on February 10, 2017, 09:08 AM
For CPU i would go for Intel: AMD is unfortunately far behind of Intel in technology.
i heard that intel processors have backdoors tho
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Triad on February 10, 2017, 09:11 AM
AMD CPUs are fine for budget builds.

Also new AMD CPUs coming end of this month probably, they might be aggressive with pricing.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: MeTonaTOR on February 10, 2017, 10:07 AM
For CPU i would go for Intel: AMD is unfortunately far behind of Intel in technology.
i heard that intel processors have backdoors tho

Every cpu has an exploit. AMD included
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on February 10, 2017, 12:37 PM
What screen size do you want? How important is portability - will it spend most of its time hooked up to a monitor and external kb/mouse? Want to play any other games?

If youre still in canada you should get a refurbished laptop from bauer systems, which is in the gta. Best prices anywhere and quality stuff. New deals are added all the time. I bought my laptop there and got a steal of a deal. Shipping is about $12. http://www.bauersystems.com/price-list.html

Thanks-you for everyones imput. This sounds a much better route then bestbuy, prices are way lower. A bigger screen would be nice for playing on. Would always be hooked up to external kb/mouse. I didn't realize you could hook a monitor up to a laptop. I wouldn't play any other games on it. Anything from bauer you would suggest?
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: KinslayeR on February 10, 2017, 01:56 PM
where did u see last time ur laptop?  when was the last time used?  Did you borrow it to someone? is there possiblity that it was lost or stolen?
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: AduN on February 10, 2017, 02:10 PM
4GB DDR2/DDR3 of ram should be fine for w:a if you are using with steam and windows 10 (personally i dont like it). a processor with 2 or 4 cores should be fine too, amd and intel are really close if you want to play an old game.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: j0e on February 10, 2017, 02:25 PM
Depends how fast you need a laptop and what your budget is. It's the same idea as kijiji.. the rarest/most desirable laptops get listed and disappear fast, while the old ones remain. If you have time to wait you could find a 17" dell precision or hp elitebook with quad core intel i7, 1080p screen and a 2-4gb graphics card and 16 gigs ram for about $500-600. That would be a beast and be future proof for a while. Lots of space for extra hard drives or SSDs inside.

17 inch laptops are the hardest to find and they sell fast. Its also harder to find a laptop with a dedicated gfx card. Most have intel integrated gfx for example hd3000. Good enough for worms but you can get better. Most laptops have crappy 1366x768 screens which I would for sure avoid. Assume 1366 unless stated otherwise. Bauer is bad about listing details though... many of the laptops in that list would have better specs than listed (for example higher reso screen or some might have a dedicated gfx card but not say). Email them and ask for more info.. mohit responds fast.

As for brands.. as long as you get a business grade laptop the quality will be good. Far better than some consumer grade shit from bestbuy that falls apart and overheats. Dell's business line is the Precision and slightly lower grade Latitude. HP makes the Elitebook. Lenovo has the T, W and X series (eg. T530). Any of those would be good if you can find the specs you want. None of the lenovos have a numpad if you care about that. Backlit kbs are not standard on most models so ask if you want one. The elitebook has weird shaped arrow keys so you basically have to use an external kb (or remap to numpad) for worms.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Sensei on February 10, 2017, 02:30 PM
Intel Core 2 Duo, 2ghz.
Probably worth like a box of chocolate now, but beast of a CPU.
Used it for 5-6 years before purchasing new PC few months ago.

Geforce gt440. Quite cheap but pretty cool graphics card. Played W:A in 1920x1080 on a 19'' monitor that supported 1366x768 as the biggest res. Just cause GPU allowed me to make custom resolution. (probably you can do this with other Nvidias too, but haven't tried it)

From what I've got, you don't care about PC, but want to have something for surfin, office stuff and W:A. Atm, you can build a configuration that will do all that and cost cheaper than going out on a few beers with buddies.

Gl.


EDIT: nvm this post if you're just looking for new notebook.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Triad on February 10, 2017, 03:02 PM
This is a great bang for buck Canadian build. i3-6100 for that price is a total beast, hell it can even run Rocket League around 1080p 60fps with lowered settings.

Also if you ever want to play newest titles you can always buy a gpu and throw in.

PCPartPicker part list (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p8YjLD) / Price breakdown by merchant (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p8YjLD/by_merchant/)

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hV7CmG/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100)  ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7cTrxr/asrock-motherboard-h110mdgs)  ($43.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Ytp323/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2a2400c14r)  ($66.00 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Fz2kcf/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1003fzex)  ($94.95 @ shopRBC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cTQypg/corsair-case-200r)  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4Vzv6h/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii430b)  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $419.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-10 09:59 EST-0500
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: j0e on February 10, 2017, 03:09 PM
Whether it's a laptop or desktop, these days its better to buy refurbished if youre on a budget. Intel processors haven't improved much in a while. Better to get a used i7-3820 (3rd gen - quad core) than a new i3-6100 (6th gen).
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheKomodo on February 10, 2017, 03:25 PM
Whether it's a laptop or desktop, these days its better to buy refurbished if youre on a budget. Intel processors haven't improved much in a while. Better to get a used i7-3820 (3rd gen - quad core) than a new i3-6100 (6th gen).

Got i7-6700K myself, it's just delightful  :-*
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: MarianRV on February 10, 2017, 06:13 PM
Got i7-6700K myself, it's just delightful  :-*
and here I am with a peasant i5-6600k :/
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: lales on February 10, 2017, 07:40 PM
Also when you come back, join our clan :)
Denied.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Tomi on February 10, 2017, 07:49 PM
What the f@#!, 80 bucks for an i3-6100.. here is costs $125 :(
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: KinslayeR on February 10, 2017, 09:40 PM
hmm, so I dont know.. maybe You forgot in job? did u check it?
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheKomodo on February 11, 2017, 01:39 AM
Also when you come back, join our clan :)
Denied.

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: j0e on February 12, 2017, 01:48 AM

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Speaking of which, I just ordered this laptop currently priced at $0. Crossing my fingers.. http://ca.refurb.io/collections/laptops/products/dell-latitude-e6430-i5-3320m-2-6ghz-16gb-256gb-ssd-14-windows-10-professional-hdmi
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheWalrus on February 12, 2017, 05:45 AM

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Speaking of which, I just ordered this laptop currently priced at $0. Crossing my fingers.. http://ca.refurb.io/collections/laptops/products/dell-latitude-e6430-i5-3320m-2-6ghz-16gb-256gb-ssd-14-windows-10-professional-hdmi
haha nice glitch but i doubt they ship it, i oredered something with a price glitch years ago and they sent me an email saying it wouldnt be sent. 
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: TheKomodo on February 12, 2017, 06:46 AM

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Speaking of which, I just ordered this laptop currently priced at $0. Crossing my fingers.. http://ca.refurb.io/collections/laptops/products/dell-latitude-e6430-i5-3320m-2-6ghz-16gb-256gb-ssd-14-windows-10-professional-hdmi

Hah! Good luck mate :D
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Triad on February 12, 2017, 02:02 PM

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Speaking of which, I just ordered this laptop currently priced at $0. Crossing my fingers.. http://ca.refurb.io/collections/laptops/products/dell-latitude-e6430-i5-3320m-2-6ghz-16gb-256gb-ssd-14-windows-10-professional-hdmi
Good luck. I saw a guy did same here, ordered 400 Lira worth of item for 0. They didn't send the item but gave him 300 Lira to be used on the online store.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on February 13, 2017, 12:41 PM

You don't get if you don't try  :D  ;D
Speaking of which, I just ordered this laptop currently priced at $0. Crossing my fingers.. http://ca.refurb.io/collections/laptops/products/dell-latitude-e6430-i5-3320m-2-6ghz-16gb-256gb-ssd-14-windows-10-professional-hdmi

I could afford that!
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on March 13, 2017, 11:19 PM
Update: House flooded so insurance is getting me a new laptop. Looking at 15-17" laptops and gaming laptops on bestbuy and newegg <$1600 price range, asus rog? Acer predator? Other suggestions? Keep in mind I know zero about computers. I don't want an overheating pos like my last asus gaming laptop. Thanks
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: XanKriegor on March 14, 2017, 10:52 AM
I would say every gaming laptop is an overheating pos, coz gaming takes power, power means heat, laptops are compact devices, this does not allow them to store heat (low thermal capacity) or properly dessipate it (low performance fans). Get desktop PC.


Playing on laptops is shitty idea. Do you really need laptop's mobility? I got back my PC assembled in 2008, in comparison with 2008 laptop i used to use, it runs frighteningly fast. Benchmarks has shown that the PC is at least 1,5 times more powerful than the laptop.
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: KinslayeR on March 14, 2017, 11:50 AM
did you check in ur desktop? this is place where usually laptop are. If u dont find, then keep searching in ur home
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: avirex on March 14, 2017, 12:02 PM
Come on dub! Get your ass a laptop, and maybe a nice kb ... or not, don't care.. just get a damn laptop so I can own you on wr
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on March 14, 2017, 01:18 PM
Yaya trying. I just dont know wtf to get. Trying to research and have no clue. I want the best I can get for $1600 but its like reading Chineese
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: avirex on March 14, 2017, 04:58 PM
will someone here just find dubc the best laptop he can find for 1600 and give him link.. ty!
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: nino on March 14, 2017, 05:37 PM
dub porra, post the link of store u r looking at and we can serach and help u ae, stop being a noob at pc like u r on ropes!!!!
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on March 14, 2017, 07:50 PM
https://m.costco.ca/all-laptops.html
Newegg.ca
Bestbuy.ca
Amazon.ca
This one is on sale and looks cool and has a cool name
https://m.costco.ca/Acer-Predator-G5-793-72AU-English-Gaming-Notebook%2c-i7-6700HQ.product.100323904.html

However I feel like they give laptops cool names to get dummies like me to buy them
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: nino on March 14, 2017, 08:14 PM
Ye this one u posted link seems to be pretty cool and fast, if u dont care much about computers and u have $1.600 just buy this one and be happy ae
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Rabbzz on March 15, 2017, 11:20 AM
https://m.costco.ca/all-laptops.html
Newegg.ca
Bestbuy.ca
Amazon.ca
This one is on sale and looks cool and has a cool name
https://m.costco.ca/Acer-Predator-G5-793-72AU-English-Gaming-Notebook%2c-i7-6700HQ.product.100323904.html

However I feel like they give laptops cool names to get dummies like me to buy them

That one is good :D
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Dub-c on March 15, 2017, 05:50 PM
Thanks! Decided on getting this one, hopefully they go for it and its not an over heating pos!
https://m.costco.ca/Acer-Predator-G9-793-78CM-English-Gaming-Notebook%2c-i7-6700HQ.product.100323922.html
Nothing worse the an awesome gaming laptop that over heats then makes w:a have screen lags! Will I need to buy a cooling mat to use it?
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Ryan on March 15, 2017, 06:06 PM
Glad you are not paying for it!
That is a lot to spend on a laptop...
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: nino on March 15, 2017, 06:18 PM
Thanks! Decided on getting this one, hopefully they go for it and its not an over heating pos!
https://m.costco.ca/Acer-Predator-G9-793-78CM-English-Gaming-Notebook%2c-i7-6700HQ.product.100323922.html
Nothing worse the an awesome gaming laptop that over heats then makes w:a have screen lags! Will I need to buy a cooling mat to use it?

it seems to come with a lot of coolers inside to make it cooler, but if this get really hot! just play outside ae, canada is so f@#!ing cold!!!
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: Rabbzz on March 16, 2017, 03:21 AM
My laptop was getting hot, i replaced the thremal paste and it was fine after that
Title: Re: Help finding a laptop!
Post by: XanKriegor on March 16, 2017, 04:13 AM
Nothing worse the an awesome gaming laptop that over heats then makes w:a have screen lags!


Awesome gaming laptop can not be overheated by WA. If id does, its a PoS.