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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Flori on August 07, 2012, 09:34 PM

Title: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Flori on August 07, 2012, 09:34 PM
Is it allowed to surrender with 1 team to play 1v2 in roper ? at start, or after 5 mins, 10 mins, X mins ?
Asbest did this in WO vs me and I wasn't sure if its allow.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: darKz on August 07, 2012, 09:39 PM
Shouldn't be allowed, it's exploiting too much.. But I don't think there's a clear rule about it.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Impossible on August 07, 2012, 09:46 PM
whats the problem of it? its not hysteria where you can loose cuz of telecow ;o
// complaining at asbest lameplay its like complaining about sitt at holywar
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: darKz on August 07, 2012, 09:49 PM
You never played 1vs2 in a Roper clanner? :P You can abuse piling, making it so the other team has to attack their partner too - i.e. they deal +/- 0 damage while you deal full damage to them. If they surrender in turn 1 or 2 I don't think it's a very wise thing to do, but under certain circumstances it can be a huge advantage..
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: barman on August 07, 2012, 09:57 PM
I'd say there's nothing wrong with that, it still takes one turn during which you can't do anything but grab a crate.
cFc did that in a clanner against mm several months ago, it was a clever move in my opinion. 3v3, but still: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-87174/

If you want to see a real abuse of roper rules, take a look at the SD in this game: http://wormolympics.com/tournaments/replay_info/8883 :D
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Flori on August 07, 2012, 10:17 PM
rofl this asbest XD twice in a row he got pwned by his lame tactic xd

ok then if there is no rule i guess its a strategy to use, just need to know when to do it lol.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Impossible on August 07, 2012, 10:42 PM
there is much more complicated tactics, for example 1v2 hysteria, guy with 1 worm telecow in such situation, where Im not able too shot him - I just quit from game -> my mate get turn ->kill telecower. Simply as that :P
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Free on August 08, 2012, 09:22 AM
There should be a rule against this.

Like Darkz said, on certain circumstances you can exploit this and get a big advantage.

Even WACL times people tried to abuse 2v1 situations, but surrendering was never allowed.. instead they tried to kill themselves with the "drop mine on the wall and get fall damage from it".

Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Rok on August 08, 2012, 10:18 AM
IMO it should be illegal. If they're able to kill themselves, that's fine, but straight up surrendering should be forbidden. But like just about any other rule, it could be abused. Obviously, you can tell someone surrendered via F12 or alt+f4, but some people might be desperate enough to pull the network cable out and that's impossible to prove.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Asbest on August 08, 2012, 10:18 AM
rofl this asbest XD twice in a row he got pwned by his lame tactic xd
Lame tactic? Nah. I just tryed to use some stealth in rules limit. Im about game vs. Flori. Nothing wonder in game vs. barman. But I think this tactic is not good in this case, coz u top hides, and no chance for me. And this is allowed. https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/httpwww-tus-wa-comleaguesgame-114516/. So, nt complaint, Flori.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: Flori on August 08, 2012, 11:40 AM
I didn't complain, i asked.
Title: Re: Roper 2v2 Surrender
Post by: fr4nk on August 08, 2012, 12:05 PM
Are you guys serious? 1v2 at start is a 90% win, expecially on a more complex map.
Shouldn't be allowed