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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: Error on May 30, 2010, 11:43 AM
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eya!
i have noticed many times that pro tappers rope kinda bad... yes, they tappping like lightning strikes, but they kinda forgot about right hand and as a result cant perform sometimes easy pump, extend rope etc. they just tap-tap-tap-tap... fall... tap-tap-tap-tap... fall...
roping isnt only tapping but rope control. or i am wrong?
PS Maciej taps good but cant controol same. he told me to look on amokz taps... but i have seen the same... is there any more 'pro tappers'? i want u.
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n1 error XD
roping is rope control not fast roping!!
A novice guy like u know more than alot of tappers XD
applaud!
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fr FTW ! <3 ;D
well,u can have fast taps and perfect control too.
for example,before i started to learn fr,i had pretty slow taps and i sucked as hell at rr,atm i'm still a weak rr'er but i improved much after learning fr and getting faster taps :P
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fr FTW ! <3 ;D
well,u can have fast taps and perfect control too.
for example,before i started to learn fr,i had pretty slow taps and i sucked as hell at rr,atm i'm still a weak rr'er but i improved much after learning fr and getting faster taps :P
OTOH, I improved my rr without learning fr. Error is generally right :)
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n1 error XD
roping is rope control not fast roping!!
A novice guy like u know more than alot of tappers XD
applaud!
WTF ZIPPO ? what is going on ??
How come you became a nice guy ?
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lol!!
i'm a nice guy when the guy is nice with me ;P
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roping is rope control not fast roping!!
roping is rope control not fast tapping
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Yes indeed !
Tapping has been some kind of new thing everyone started to do, thinkin they would look "more pro". A lot of people are kinda cheating to tap, using some progs or 2 space bars..
Actually fast tapping wont help you to get a better time @ RR for exemple.. try to remember how Ryan was playing ;) he wasnt a tapper but a real good and fast Rope Racer !
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well I don't think that my control is that bad, but not best yet, still training it :)
it's start to learn with fr, I have been training it since february 2008 and in your opinion I am still bad! And it's f@#!ing hard back to worms and fr after some weeks or even a few days of break... xD
good controler and tapper? - Mablak
I started to play fr because I liked m0nk taps, when I didn't know any worms league yet, and I was newby in worms world, it just inspired me, wanted to be similar one day. And fr is not that boring like 1 finger tapping, smth new.
2 spaces is not cheat, I have been talking a lot about it, not gonna explain same thing again for some stupid idiot.
but yeah Error, you are right, rope is about control, but if you got good control and fast tap near it, it would look nice :)
what about sm0k you had to get me bad, he is good but his control is not that good, if I said his nick I had to get his extreme fast tap on my mind, nothing else ;)
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sm0k has good control imo.
Anyway i think the best way to rope good is
1 - learn control > 2 - improve ur taps
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for the first again.. I was inspired fr when I didn't know anything about leagues etc, was playing it for fun, like newbs, shoppers, inters etc. Fast tap looked for me extreme pro, and wanted to get same one day... -.-'
you are wrong with learning control first, you will lose it anyway when you would like to start playing fr, but ofc it's easier to get similar control after.
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Hmm u only have to have a good scroll u can tap fast to show up on warmers but it won't help u on a rope or rr like dogg said ppl is cheating to look like fast tappers that fr shit or uwt lame imo, it's all about timing and control @ taps and arrows.
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There are examples for both fast and slow tapping ropers. For example Cueshark or Slayer, they both don't have very fast taps but they're still very good ropers / rr'ers. On the contrary, Anubis stepz or ramirez are examples for wormers with faster taps - but they're also very good ropers and rr'ers. :P
Guess it's a matter of personal likes. Fast tapping is not useless, there are just not many people who really benefit from it. :)
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I agree with darkz.
and fr is NOT shit, it depends on you if you want to use it, if you fancy using it.
All about taming.. yes! And imagine how hard timing is in fr...
I still see a lot of good players who insult finger rollers just because they are jealuos... like here. That's sad.
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Sorry to say that but.. yes FR is big wwp shit !
Of course there are good ropers that tap fast, but not so many.. who? anubis, mablak, oijogja? and that's all..
Maciej, leave the FR and start learning control xD not everyone can rope like mablak
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HA! i forgot! i have rr with mablak just in purpose of fr few month before.. i asked him tons of questions about fr, roping, etc... u know, mablak taps fast, but taps not like others. he shoot rope when he need it... but tappers shoot every time they can do it, even no need it... as mablak said to me, i modified my spacebar so now i can press it faster with 1 finger... try it, its rocks.
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I tried once, but I couldn't feel space well then.
and shut up dogg and take your life, I will do whatever I wish, and my control is still better than your. I beat you in rr easy even if you use your 1 f@#!ing finger!
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Error, you can't compare Mablak to ANYONE, he's to worms what was Mozart to music. A genius. :P
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and as he says he doesn't use fr
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who? me or mablak? kinda cant understaun ur reply
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and shut up dogg and take your life, I will do whatever I wish, and my control is still better than your. I beat you in rr easy even if you use your 1 f@#!ing finger!
Hey man my post wasnt supposed to disapoint you.. i was talking serious
and I dont think your control is better than mine..
and I dont use 1 fingers but 3 ;)
peace man, stay cool
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Sorry to say that but.. yes FR is big wwp shit !
Of course there are good ropers that tap fast, but not so many.. who? anubis, mablak,Guaton, oijogja? and that's all..
Maciej, leave the FR and start learning control xD not everyone can rope like mablak
ye , +1
imo the ppl who can play ttrr with 1 finger, totally rox( play ttr = shyguy , lordhound, oky, shui , chicken23 , etc ( the pros))
i mean "1 finger > 2 fingers"
xD lol at maciej
edit2: lol at maciej smiting me xDDDD!!! GTFO U MOFO XD!
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Thank you for noticing my 1 finger rr talent!
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I applaud you Guaton =)
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People who fingerroll might use a lot of ropes, but you can't call it fast tapping. Someone who is using 2 fingers or 2 spaces is tapping at half the speed as someone using 1 finger. Think about it . . . . . ;)
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All I have to say: thumb user ftw.
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Dub-c u f@#!ing cowboy where r u? I want some warmers.
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People who fingerroll might use a lot of ropes, but you can't call it fast tapping. Someone who is using 2 fingers or 2 spaces is tapping at half the speed as someone using 1 finger. Think about it . . . . . ;)
Yea, but the point is 2 finger "roll" theoretically must give you more speed.
If 1 finger pressing-1-key-speed is 100, It is not that in 2-finger, each will do 50. each finger can do more than 50, which will result in 120 or more speed.
You know like in a drum roll. You can't do it with one hand.
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Nice point there MI. I agrre Abnaxus, I`ve always roped with my thumb, everything else feels weird for me. I remember when me and Morgoth was roping offline on the same computer earlier, how much more noisy it was when Morgoth were roping with his index finger then it was when I was roping with the thumb :P So I will never try to learn FR, because it is not possible to do with the thumb![
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There is many frers nowday, best for me (darkz,smokz)
others: dev, dulek, lukze, uniqe, dub-c, mabxD, outoforder etc
All sr comunity have good ropers, in cfc, ckc, bor, ck u can find good ropers not only taping all the time, with control :)
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I love darkz fr <3 Looks so cool!
Dender's fr is fast too, but I'm not so sure about the control part. xD
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applaud for MI
think about it dub... hahahahaha!
and before fr I used my index finger on space, I can't imagine it with thumb xD
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https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-29073/
look at 2nd Mablak turn. he have said that 'no fr there'.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOO is this posible????????
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https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-29073/
look at 2nd Mablak turn. he have said that 'no fr there'.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOO is this posible????????
Modded space reacts really fast if it's well modded.
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You know like in a drum roll. You can't do it with one hand.
In fact, you can do as fast with one stick. .)
Edit: Omg MI, you're a genius ! From now, I'll train to press space with a drum stick (or something like that). :D
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https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-29073/
look at 2nd Mablak turn. he have said that 'no fr there'.
:OOOOOOOOOOOOO is this posible????????
Modded space reacts really fast if it's well modded.
Yeah, I remember when I was at Anubis' house he had a modded keyboard with space being the only key on it.. He messed with the electronics and stuff, put paper under it etc and it reacted when you were breathing out on it. :D
Next time I'm there I'm gonna steal it from him, hiuehiueuiheihue porra.
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applaud for MI
think about it dub... hahahahaha!
and before fr I used my index finger on space, I can't imagine it with thumb xD
f@#!, we already have had this argument lol. Not going to go through it again. Ok one more time. 1 finger taping @ 100 taps per second, or 2 fingers tapping at 150 taps per second, if you look at both peoples single finger, who is tapping faster? I've yet to see someone fr twice as fast as I can tap with 1 finger. Think about it again.
To each there own, I would never give any extra credit to anyone fr pretending to tap fast, but thats my own opinion.
Interesting note though, one of the fastest tappers and most consistent roper on w2 used his thumb to tap.
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Using two spaces is cheat and I don't Fr luz4k :).
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I myself, use 1 space, 1 finger. If someone asks me should I practice fr? I tell them, 1 finger gives you what you need. But fr is an style. Fortunately you can do a scroll with 1 shot of rope in the same time (or less) than going that space with million shots (doing fr or whatever).
To answer you Dub-c, in drum example, by practice if 1 hand CAN do X strokes on the drum, if you add the second hand, you can get a result of 2X speed.
On the keyboard, it is different. Theoretically you must be able to. But the point is, does your keyboard accept those many 'shots' and send them successfully? Even if it does, then you're gonna have wasted rope shots. Because many times it happens your rope is not yet attached to the wall, but you send another stroke to the game, which will be refused by game.
For example, try doing a wizard when your rope is a bit longer than it should be. If you do 3 fast strokes on the rope, the game accepts 2 of them and third one fails, so will your wizard. Other than that, how many times have you seen someone fails to do a shadow? they do the 3rd shot much fast that 'it doesn't count' by the game.
You are right though, the 1-finger tap is faster than 1 of each fingers in fr (In keyboard example)
even if someone have the ability to do each of his fingers taps as much as the other one, he gotta slow down to reach the game level acceptance of shots otherwise he'll have tons of wasted shots.
But why 'fast tapping' is more important than the tapping output result itself? Why do you care HOW people reached their fast taps? (Obviously my point is other than using-programs)
It is like caring how your car engine is managed. It is using 8v straight? or is it two 4v in parallel?
Other question to me is, I've never heard people calling moded-space cheating. Why is that? I've seen people call many styles of tapping cheating but moded-space?
We use different equipments. So basically we start off different. My space bar sensitivity is different than Ramone's space bar. The amount of space I have to push my space to get a shot is different than others. We all have a different roping performance with other people's keyboard!
The only way to solve the 2-space argument is that T17 enable remapping game control keys and put a link 'Assign another key to do this action'. e.g. 'Add another key for "space"'. ;)
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applaud for MI, you have never used fr, but seems to be an old fr, experienced player.
For more game blocks you if you press 2 spaces at once.
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...how many times have you seen someone fails to do a shadow? they do the 3rd shot much fast that 'it doesn't count' by the game.
Other question to me is, I've never heard people calling moded-space cheating. Why is that? I've seen people call many styles of tapping cheating but moded-space?
I even manage to tap too fast with my 1 finger tapping, sometimes :)
And yeah, calling a modded keayboard/spacebar cheating is ridiculous. It's like saying better and more expensive football shoes should be forbidden and all football players should use the same model :)
applaud for MI, you have never used fr, but seems to be an old fr, experienced player.
Conversely, a common sense is just about enough for post like MI's, and he obviously have it a lot ::)
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lol
using 2 fingers to play is not a crime , isnt a big deal ...
i started my finger roll using 2 spaces and i dont think its cheat, cos u need time to control it. When i bought my USB kb i started to play with the space bar, and it was almost the same , got less taps but more control.
i use FR and im proud of it , dont have ultrataps ( dub has the same taps than me, or even more xD) but i dont care cos i pwn u all anyway xD.
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haha . word guaton ;D
wena :P :P
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FR + Rope control = win
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FR + Rope control = win
just rope control.. no matter if u FR or not
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FR + Rope control = win
just rope control.. no matter if u FR or not
+1
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eya!
i have noticed many times that pro tappers rope kinda bad... yes, they tappping like lightning strikes, but they kinda forgot about right hand and as a result cant perform sometimes easy pump, extend rope etc. they just tap-tap-tap-tap... fall... tap-tap-tap-tap... fall...
roping isnt only tapping but rope control. or i am wrong?
PS Maciej taps good but cant controol same. he told me to look on amokz taps... but i have seen the same... is there any more 'pro tappers'? i want u.
4 me "tap" is just a trick if u know tap u know rrtt but in wxw big rr and other rope scemes is not necesary mm 4 me is better the guy who made a lot of tricks, no the guy who know how to tap
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I tap better that noobs frollers on my f@#!ing laptop. one finger hoes.
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taps + rope control = tapsropecontrol
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There is many frers nowday, best for me (darkz,smokz)
others: dev, dulek, lukze, uniqe, dub-c, mabxD, outoforder etc
I don't know about Dulek, but I think the rest of those "others" twitch (including myself). :)
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There is many frers nowday, best for me (darkz,smokz)
others: dev, dulek, lukze, uniqe, dub-c, mabxD, outoforder etc
I don't know about Dulek, but I think the rest of those "others" twitch (including myself). :)
Neva, I use one finger as well. :P
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There is many frers nowday, best for me (darkz,smokz)
others: dev, dulek, lukze, uniqe, dub-c, mabxD, outoforder etc
I don't know about Dulek, but I think the rest of those "others" twitch (including myself). :)
Neva, I use one finger as well. :P
lies dul, u fr while warm!
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Master control and timing then your a good roper. Be consistent ;)
I could name names for hours that are great like that,but my all time fav player back in the days was Volrin. He was a true roper :)
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Hmmm soo many people i know learned FR now.. that makes me want to learn FR now.. for now i just single space tap
z-space
x-F8.
I am still trying to get use to my keys, and i can't hardly rope in rr, ttrr... soo much tight spaces i cannot rope very good. ;c
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i used to learn fr on 1 space for 9 months, just on the spacebar key, then i moved on 2 spaces. I tried a lot of combinations for example 1 and 2, < and >, 7 and 8, a and s, win and alt... Now i play on z and x and i still use f8 as f8 (what you can see on my video) :P
and remember, girls prefer finger roll players! 8)
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I do tip tap dance in fr style... Before, with my old kb with Lctrl and Lwin beacuse the position of the hand is similar of that for spacebar. Now, new kb, without keylock, then use spacebar.
I agreed with macje, fr is the way to conquist gf rofl. Do fr and they love forever
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I think this finger roll tap thing is just some new generation of roping.. U hardly see oldschoolers tap.. And ur right control is much better then a fast tap... I think taps r beyond useless... And i have yet to see a fast tapper wth total control... Some of the best rr`s in the league dont tap.. They r just fast and consistant... And zippo has changed his attitude.. Seems he been workin on that for a while.. And hess doin a good job.. Hopeefully he keeps it up :p
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What is the best place to train FR anways... TTRR, warmer map, wxw map? D:
And i think i switch my single space tap way to much... because i use to have it like my Rwid is my space, and ctrl is my F8, and then 1 week later the period is my space nad Rwind is my F8... I need to stop changing my keys...
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ye avi, u r right, just check the chatlog of a very recent game of him xD
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-43594/
he calls him pro...as usual..just forgot to say hes pro finger in the ass. LOL
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What is the best place to train FR anways... TTRR, warmer map, wxw map? D:
i started to train offline on wxw maps, but not touching walls etc, just pressing space with still other fingers, it was the hardest at start, then shoppa where i tried to tap as mad, then noobs called me cheater xd then wxw and getting speed, and now ttrr! ;D but i play fr over 2 and half years at all 8) :o
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Finger Roll is stupid fake f@#!ing taps anyways. Who cares. 0o0o0o look at me I have fast taps by using 2 keys as a spacebar and pressing them with 2 fingers 0o0o0o I so fast tapper. fr is a trick to make noobs think they are super fast at hitting space and nothing more. Its for people who don't have the coordination or speed to press the space adequately with 1 finger.
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lol
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and remember, girls prefer finger roll players! 8)
Yeah, tapping the clitoris or nipples like crazy will drive them to ecstasy. How many women you had, again? :D
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i dont need chicks, i got agneau!<3
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and remember, girls prefer finger roll players! 8)
Yeah, tapping the clitoris or nipples like crazy will drive them to ecstasy. How many women you had, again? :D
hahahahaha!!!!!
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Finger Roll is stupid fake f@#!ing taps anyways. Who cares. 0o0o0o look at me I have fast taps by using 2 keys as a spacebar and pressing them with 2 fingers 0o0o0o I so fast tapper. fr is a trick to make noobs think they are super fast at hitting space and nothing more. Its for people who don't have the coordination or speed to press the space adequately with 1 finger.
oh yeah,thx for the compliments,really!
for example I don't use fr to 'show off' or some shit like that.I use it because I like it (and imo i improved since i use it)-'the mad tapping stuff is to warm up the fingers'
BUT,whatever...
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Finger Roll is stupid fake f@#!ing taps anyways. Who cares. 0o0o0o look at me I have fast taps by using 2 keys as a spacebar and pressing them with 2 fingers 0o0o0o I so fast tapper. fr is a trick to make noobs think they are super fast at hitting space and nothing more. Its for people who don't have the coordination or speed to press the space adequately with 1 finger.
oh yeah,thx for the compliments,really!
for example I don't use fr to 'show off' or some shit like that.I use it because I like it (and imo i improved since i use it)-'the mad tapping stuff is to warm up the fingers'
BUT,whatever...
Thats just my very biased opinion, take it for what its worth. If you enjoy it and it makes you have fun go for it. I just personally think its stupid. I just don't think people who fr should be taking credit for having fast taps or pretending they have fast taps. If your not one of those people then no problems.
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I tap "normally", kinda twitchy style with one space, does the job for me. I dont agree that people who use two spaces are "showing off" or "cheating"... its just they way they have chosen to rope. Go and set up two space bars, you're not gonna rope any better, you'll be worse than you are with one. No matter which way you chose to press space, it still takes years of practise to master it. You cant slate people for using two spaces because its still just as hard to rope quickly with good control with two spaces as it is with one.
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i play guitar for 16 years, for me it's very indifferent use 1-2-3 fingers... and 1 finger of my foot in the ass when i m roping uahuahuha
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Finger Roll is stupid fake f@#!ing taps anyways. Who cares. 0o0o0o look at me I have fast taps by using 2 keys as a spacebar and pressing them with 2 fingers 0o0o0o I so fast tapper. fr is a trick to make noobs think they are super fast at hitting space and nothing more. Its for people who don't have the coordination or speed to press the space adequately with 1 finger.
oh yeah,thx for the compliments,really!
for example I don't use fr to 'show off' or some shit like that.I use it because I like it (and imo i improved since i use it)-'the mad tapping stuff is to warm up the fingers'
BUT,whatever...
Thats just my very biased opinion, take it for what its worth. If you enjoy it and it makes you have fun go for it. I just personally think its stupid. I just don't think people who fr should be taking credit for having fast taps or pretending they have fast taps. If your not one of those people then no problems.
lol , i use my two fingers in my space bar , and i dnt have ultrafast taps , but they are actually fast , so i shouldnt take credit for having fast taps? only cos i use 2 fingers? im f@#!ing proud of them lol
if u dont beleave on me , i can send u an stupid video like maciej , but by pm obviously lol
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well iam still trying to learn to tap with 1 finger hauhauha
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Im going for to learn mindcontrol taps,so i can just sit and relax thinking the taps and rope,so i can have a beer in both hands YEAH!! :D